Matchless Speaker Removal Question

[Sherman]

So I have this great idea that I'm going to experiment with different speakers in my Matchless Lightning. So I spend several hundred dollars on several speakers and actually found time to attempt to experiment. So after get the amp torn down I find that I cannot remove the speaker because it appears to be glued to the baffle.

Does Matchless make it a practice to glue in their speakers?

[Madison]

I don't think they are actually 'glued' to the baffle. Having removed many speakers, some amps (Matchless and Dr Z come to mind) require you to have to work the speaker carefully up, especially if it's an older model and has been in place for years.

[barks2much]

I believe Matchless originally was using the thick Jet glue #3 in the early days.A few years in they switched to 2 part elephant snot to good effect and stck with that.











Just juice'n ya bud.Not uncommon for a speaker gasket to be "stuck" to the baffle if it was factory installed.If the speaker is screwed in while the baffle's finish is even a little fresh it will bond with its' new friend.No big.I just use one of the little yellow putty spreaders that taper down to a thin edge and are very flexable.Just "wiggle push" the edge between the gasket and baffle and slowly work your way around the speaker and you'll be good to go.Slow is smooth - smooth is fast.The yellow is important,better tone fur shur.Be brave,go slow,have fun.

[mcdyas]

I had one like that and it appeared that the speaker had bonded slightly with the paint in the cab, as if the speaker was mounted before the paint was fully cured. It came out with a little persuasion. Is there a good reason to pain the inside of these cabs?

[melvins]

So I have this great idea that I'm going to experiment with different speakers in my Matchless Lightning. So I spend several hundred dollars on several speakers and actually found time to attempt to experiment. So after get the amp torn down I find that I cannot remove the speaker because it appears to be glued to the baffle.

Does Matchless make it a practice to glue in their speakers?


Find it funny you mention this. I just experienced this last night with my Badcat Hotcat. Took a little bit of pull but it finally came off and didn't leave any residue or anything. Was wondering if that was normal.. It was the original speaker.

[dakotajones]

as a person who has done way more speaker swapping than necessary, they get stuck sometimes. no glue...just the cork sticking to the paint on the baffle...might be how tightly the speaker was screwed to the baffle or assembling before the paint dries. a little muscle does the trick with no repercussions.

[Sherman]

Thanks for all of the input gentlemen. I tried some mild coercion to get the speaker out but she wouldn't budge. I'm going to try the putty knife idea.

Thanks again.

[barks2much]

Thanks for all of the input gentlemen. I tried some mild coercion to get the speaker out but she wouldn't budge. I'm going to try the putty knife idea.

Thanks again.
Ok,just checked back to see how you were getting on with it and the use of the word "knife" has me a bit concerned.The improvised tool of choice for this job in my experence needs to be made of a plastic/nylon material so as not to gouge the baffle and bugger your day.Not putty knife.putty spreader ala Bondo.This ain't no knife fight.

[Madison]

I believe Matchless originally was using the thick Jet glue #3 in the early days.A few years in they switched to 2 part elephant snot to good effect and stck with that.

Just juice'n ya bud.Not uncommon for a speaker gasket to be "stuck" to the baffle if it was factory installed.If the speaker is screwed in while the baffle's finish is even a little fresh it will bond with its' new friend.No big.I just use one of the little yellow putty spreaders that taper down to a thin edge and are very flexable.Just "wiggle push" the edge between the gasket and baffle and slowly work your way around the speaker and you'll be good to go.Slow is smooth - smooth is fast.The yellow is important,better tone fur shur.Be brave,go slow,have fun.



Ok,just checked back to see how you were getting on with it and the use of the word "knife" has me a bit concerned.The improvised tool of choice for this job in my experence needs to be made of a plastic/nylon material so as not to gouge the baffle and bugger your day.Not putty knife.putty spreader ala Bondo.This ain't no knife fight.


Haha, good posts man...like the way you think!

[Sherman]

lol - I really meant a spatula type putty instrument but I will be sure to use the plastic variety.

Thanks for your concern B2M!