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vibrasonic
12-27-2011, 08:45 PM
Just thought i show a pic of a not well known gibson. The F25. It has the same body as the LG - B series gibsons (00) size. Its a 12 fret model that is 2" wide at the nut. X braced it can take steel strings or classical. The saddle was originally straight across like a classical. I had it filled and cut for an angled saddle. It sounds really good and of course its great for fingerstyle. The PG's are original.http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h349/paulmantello/IMG_0136.jpg

Decoboom
12-27-2011, 08:54 PM
Cool guitar. Is the fretboard flat? Or is it radiused?

vibrasonic
12-27-2011, 09:06 PM
Cool guitar. Is the fretboard flat? Or is it radiused?
Flat like a classical. I bought a shubb classical capo for it.

treeofpain
12-27-2011, 09:18 PM
I think they also called it the Folk Singer. Basically a classical sized guitar built for steel strings.

84Bravo
12-28-2011, 09:17 AM
With a wide nut.

zombywoof
12-28-2011, 09:28 AM
The F-25 (which was also called the Folk Singer) was a fairly different beast than the LGs.

As someone noted they were odd guitars designed to be played with either steel or nylon strings. I do recall the wide nut those things had and the flat board. I guess Gibson hoped that this plus the dual pickguards would strike a chord with players caught up in the early 1960s folk music revival.

dewman
12-28-2011, 09:29 AM
If you ever consider selling it...give me a shout.

PedalFreak
12-28-2011, 12:25 PM
Those are great guitars, I've played a bunch of them and kick myself for not buying them when they could be found for $400 :(

musicofanatic5
12-28-2011, 01:51 PM
Anything with 12 frets to the body is generally good with me!

zombywoof
12-28-2011, 02:10 PM
Real quirky looking guitars. I agree that 12 frets to the body and the wide nut are great attributes. If only it was a slothead. But those pickguards just scream Kay.

walterw
12-28-2011, 09:58 PM
look inside it with an inspection mirror;

some of those old 12-fret gibsons (i forget which ones) still had the bridge plate placed for 14-fret necks! you'd have the holes completely missing the bridge plate, which of course allowed the string ball ends to tear through the soft spruce top.

vibrasonic
12-28-2011, 10:04 PM
look inside it with an inspection mirror;

some of those old 12-fret gibsons (i forget which ones) still had the bridge plate placed for 14-fret necks! you'd have the holes completely missing the bridge plate, which of course allowed the string ball ends to tear through the soft spruce top.

The bridgeplate is properly set back. I always check the BP on an old guitar.

musicofanatic5
12-28-2011, 11:26 PM
Real quirky looking guitars. I agree that 12 frets to the body and the wide nut are great attributes. If only it was a slothead. But those pickguards just scream Kay.

To me they look like flamenco "tap plates". Sorta.

musicofanatic5
12-28-2011, 11:39 PM
look inside it with an inspection mirror;

some of those old 12-fret gibsons (i forget which ones) still had the bridge plate placed for 14-fret necks! you'd have the holes completely missing the bridge plate, which of course allowed the string ball ends to tear through the soft spruce top.


I have a very late (1941) Smeck Stage Deluxe with what seems to be a "14 fret" J-35/45 body: X brace and bridge plate in 14 fret position, soundhole too far toward the neck, with only 18 frets (celluloid filled). Big (2" wide at nut) 12 fret Smeck neck with rounded back, arched fingerboard and a truss rod. Looks like perhaps the factory hastily filled a late order on a Smeck after regular production had ceased? Tsk, tsk, "classic era" Gibson!

zombywoof
12-29-2011, 10:11 AM
I would be more concerned to make sure the bridge plate is not made of spruce. I don't know about the F-25 but Gibson was known to use spruce plates in some of their less expensive guitars like the LGs. I have seen a few that were pretty chewed up.

vibrasonic
12-29-2011, 10:25 AM
I would be more concerned to make sure the bridge plate is not made of spruce. I don't know about the F-25 but Gibson was known to use spruce plates in some of their less expensive guitars like the LGs. I have seen a few that were pretty chewed up.

The only one i know of that had a spruce BP was the LGO

leray1
01-26-2012, 05:47 AM
F-25 owner, here. Mine is from '65. I absolutely love mine and will never sell it.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-LCClsmCJn18/S5Pf0SpVrkI/AAAAAAAAFZc/zNry-RUQVug/w116-h291-k/IMG_5078.JPG

Check out this Mahogany.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-d0aQrf0SK2Y/S5Pf0wfgZ3I/AAAAAAAAFZk/FGeQUAIq06g/w192-h285-k/IMG_5081.JPG

vibrasonic
01-28-2012, 09:32 AM
F-25 owner, here. Mine is from '65. I absolutely love mine and will never sell it.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-LCClsmCJn18/S5Pf0SpVrkI/AAAAAAAAFZc/zNry-RUQVug/w116-h291-k/IMG_5078.JPG

Check out this Mahogany.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-d0aQrf0SK2Y/S5Pf0wfgZ3I/AAAAAAAAFZk/FGeQUAIq06g/w192-h285-k/IMG_5081.JPG

Nice one. I had the saddle angled on mine for intonation. How does yours intonate?

leray1
01-28-2012, 11:42 AM
I actually did the intonation string by string - filed the saddle accordingly. It made for an ugly saddle, but it sounds great up and down the neck. My only problem with it is that it could use a neck reset. So, I don't have a good break angle of the strings over the saddle since I like the action so low. But, it's still putting good pressure on the saddle and I can't imagine it sounding much better.

vibrasonic
01-28-2012, 09:30 PM
I actually did the intonation string by string - filed the saddle accordingly. It made for an ugly saddle, but it sounds great up and down the neck. My only problem with it is that it could use a neck reset. So, I don't have a good break angle of the strings over the saddle since I like the action so low. But, it's still putting good pressure on the saddle and I can't imagine it sounding much better.

I had a neck set on mine, it sounded a little better nothing drastic. It really made it play a lot better. I had the saddle angled at the same time since the it
was getting the neck set. Carl at Daves Guitar Shop did a super job. Quite reasonable also.

Cheers

Paul

leray1
01-29-2012, 07:37 AM
I will do my own reset one day. One day...

Did any of you see this auction (http://www.ebay.com/itm/330678610019?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)? Seller thinks that pick guard is original.

vibrasonic
01-29-2012, 09:55 AM
I will do my own reset one day. One day...

Did any of you see this auction (http://www.ebay.com/itm/330678610019?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)? Seller thinks that pick guard is original.

LOL
The bridge looks non original also.

musicofanatic5
01-29-2012, 12:11 PM
I will do my own reset one day. One day...

Did any of you see this auction (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?campid=5336713463&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F33067861001 9%3FssPageName%3DSTRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT%26_trksid%3Dp39 84.m1423.l2649)? Seller thinks that pick guard is original.
Some of my NFW ebay rules include never buy from an ebay seller:

who describes their item as "Super cool"

who cannot spell seam correctly

who uses this many exclamation points!!!!!!!!