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timrocks311
01-24-2012, 11:28 AM
i'm looking for a good envelope filter, not too expensive. i had a q-tron and stupidly sold it, now i miss it. any ideas for a new one?

thanks!

bduguay
01-24-2012, 11:29 AM
The one from BYOC is really good IMO.
B.

DT7
01-24-2012, 11:31 AM
A mail-eating dog.

Yonderwanderer
01-24-2012, 11:32 AM
Harder to find, but I love my 70's-era MXR envelope filter.

Whiskey N Beans
01-24-2012, 11:37 AM
Subdecay Prometheus or Proteus, Three Lead Proton, Mad Professor Snow White Auto Wah, Menatone Mail Bomb all have positive reviews. I just got a Subdecay Proteus - which also has a tap tempo step filter - I'll let you know how it sounds in a day or two.

drolling
01-24-2012, 11:41 AM
IDK.. cheapest I own's a Guyatone WR-2. It's also extremely tiny. Cool sounding, but probably the crappiest buffering I've heard

At the other end of the spectrum, there's the Maxon AF-9. Unlike it's 'cousin' the Ibanez 9 series auto-filter, the Maxon's true-bypassed. Sounds much, much better too - but they're not cheap, unfortunately

Read somewhere that it's based on the Mutron circuit, but that could just be more intrawebz disinformation

earthtonesaudio
01-24-2012, 11:57 AM
A mail-eating dog.

:spit

Guitarbrett
01-24-2012, 01:46 PM
I have a Mojo Hand Analogue Filter 442 for sale in the emporium. It is the one I chose when I needed that effect. Warmer and more interesting to me than the Micro Q-Tron I had. It is a clone of the DOD 440 as used by Radiohead. I just don't need the effect anymore.

timrocks311
01-25-2012, 06:57 AM
thanks for the replys. i'll have to youtube some of these.

lhama
01-25-2012, 09:36 AM
MP snow white or prometheus DLX.... or both, since they compliment each other so nice.

henryjurstin13
01-25-2012, 09:59 AM
I have these:

EHX Q-Tron+
Emma DiscumBOBulator
Line 6 Otto Filter
3 Leaf GR2
Dunlop Bass Envelope Filter Deluxe

Had in the past:
Flip Funky Box
Robotalk 2
Enigma Q:balls
3 Leaf Proton
Chunk Systems Agent "00" Funk
Digitech Synth Wah

I'm sure I'm forgetting several filters, but it's pretty foggy today... I posted about my latest, the Line 6 Otto several months ago. I bought this Tone Core module on a whim & it's honestly one of my favorite filters I've ever tried!! It does super-smooth/muted/Jerry tones & also goes super-squawk like my old Funky Box. I can't stress enough how more people should try this pedal!!! Emma is great and so is the Q-Tron, tho' I've never played the smaller XO line (but, prolly same tones).

Filters are as finicky as a cat with 6 legs & 3 toes. It's all about what plays well with your guitar(s)/bass, amp(s), and other pedals.... not to mention your technique and hand attack. Emma ain't cheap, but it's one of my favorite all around filters that's hard to get bad tones from. For the money, if you liked the Q-tron -- look into the smaller ones, used.

cubistguitar
01-25-2012, 10:31 AM
. I posted about my latest, the Line 6 Otto several months ago. I bought this Tone Core module on a whim & it's honestly one of my favorite filters I've ever tried!! It does super-smooth/muted/Jerry tones & also goes super-squawk like my old Funky Box. I can't stress enough how more people should try this pedal!!! Emma is great and so is the Q-Tron, tho' I've never played the smaller XO line (but, prolly same tones).


I wonder if the Line 6 M5/M9 stuff does decent filters. They seem to have lot of filter patches. I am seriously considering getting one of these and doing the audio quality mods.

henryjurstin13
01-25-2012, 10:55 AM
Ya know -- I've wanted to re-try the FM4 again, as the last time was in GC a LONG, LONG, LONG time ago... the filters in my Vetta will "work" with lots of tweaking and help from other stomps like a comp/EQ/drive/etc... I guess the M series of effects are the same as the FM4, MM4, DL4, and DM4. I'm not familiar with the HD series of filters from Line 6, but if it's even close to the Otto -- -it'll prolly be worth checking out.

No clue about other multi units like the G3, etc...

phishintrip007
01-25-2012, 11:03 AM
If your looking for the classic envelope filter sound, The 3 leaf Proton nails it!!

The Mad Professor also looks like a really good one.

Echoes22
01-25-2012, 01:41 PM
I've had a couple and would rank them in this order (best to worst)

-Boss FT-2
-Guyatone WR-3
-EHX Q-tron
-Line6 FM-4
-DOD FX-25B

imjustadrummer
01-25-2012, 02:55 PM
Q-tron

Clean Channel
01-26-2012, 08:23 AM
Prometheus DLX sounds killer and is endless fun. May be too expensive for what you're looking for.

TDavis
01-26-2012, 12:23 PM
A mail-eating dog.

:rotflmao

10strings
06-04-2012, 10:34 PM
Should I get a Prometheus Dlx to go along with my Snow White?? Love the SW!! :)

joe_k
06-04-2012, 10:41 PM
Subdecay prometheus. absolute beast.

gtrnstuff
06-04-2012, 10:43 PM
I wonder if the Line 6 M5/M9 stuff does decent filters. They seem to have lot of filter patches. I am seriously considering getting one of these and doing the audio quality mods.

Yes. IMO filters are some of the best models in the Line 6 boxes.
M5/ M9 does a lot of useful things besides the filters, too.

Eventide Mod Factor, too. Envelope filters are great, plus lots of other things.

62Tele
06-04-2012, 10:50 PM
Really find the Robotalk 2 works well. Had a Proton and it could sound great but was pretty fussy for live use. The RT2 has a blend knob which I find critical and two channels is really useful. Great pedal.

MHermans
06-04-2012, 10:53 PM
Really find the Robotalk 2 works well. Had a Proton and it could sound great but was pretty fussy for live use. The RT2 has a blend knob which I find critical and two channels is really useful. Great pedal.

I agree. It's what I use as well (Robotalk 2). I like the 3leaf GR2 and some others as well....

Eliguitar
06-04-2012, 11:02 PM
Really find the Robotalk 2 works well. Had a Proton and it could sound great but was pretty fussy for live use. The RT2 has a blend knob which I find critical and two channels is really useful. Great pedal.

The Robotalk 2 is really cool, I liked it even more after I changed the internal settings to lower the frequency! I can make it sound almost like a great wah pedal like that. The blend knob is very useful as well.

lucidgenius
06-04-2012, 11:06 PM
PM'd

Drewby
06-05-2012, 12:06 AM
Take it from a dead head, and we know Auto filter, cause, well, jerry loved it! And so do we. I like the maxon AF-9. i believe musicians friend has some decent clips posted. i love mine. doesn't sound thin at all like most tend to do. Also, check out Qtron, thats what the guy from darkstar orchestra uses who now play in furthur with bob and phil from the dead! he says the qtron is closest to vintage mutrons. he also said he likes the Qtron better than the modern mutrons. hope that helps!

Huetone
06-05-2012, 12:10 AM
http://www.3leafaudio.com/

Tito83
06-05-2012, 12:12 AM
I've had quite a few, boutique or not, the best one yet is a simple Guyatone WR3. That said I never tried the Proton and it seems to sound awesome.

Humancapo
06-05-2012, 12:46 AM
Another vote for the Guyatone WR3, simple and effective.

Huetone
06-05-2012, 12:51 AM
I have the MP Snow White, and the Guyatone, both fine effects, the Proton is a different beast, and the 3leaf G2, he has a new one coming in a couple weeks... good stuff!