Gary Moore just DESTROYING!

[freedom's door]

Fireworks start at 3:20

kjFeQFHBU4M

Rock guitar playing gets no better than this IMO.

[Alister]

Baker hated playing with Gary Moore, found Moore's playing "contrived," and wasn't shy about saying so.

[freedom's door]

Baker hated playing with Gary Moore, found Moore's playing "contrived," and wasn't shy about saying so.

Some of the best music ever recorded was made by people who hated each other!

[ROKY]

Gary always rips it up, for sure !

Would've liked to see him interact with Jack more as opposed to riding over top
of it the way he did .. I think it would've woke Ginger up and it could have
easily felt more like Cream .
Jack tried to draw him in, but Gary missed the cue, so Bruce walked away .

Gary was a ripper, though no doubt .

[Matt L]

Baker hated playing with Gary Moore, found Moore's playing "contrived," and wasn't shy about saying so.

Here's that interview-

http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/news/ginger-baker-gary-moore-needs-a-psychiatrist/

Never been a Ginger Baker fan, so doesn't bother me one bit.

[Pax]

Guitar is very, very.....umm......loud? It's just too much.

[JIMIFAN59]

That was great......thanks for the post. Gary was rippin' and one of my favorites. Bruce bass tone was great as well......Ginger, well, really nothing special....the interview was interesting though.

[ejecta]

Here's that interview-

http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/news/ginger-baker-gary-moore-needs-a-psychiatrist/

Never been a Ginger Baker fan, so doesn't bother me one bit.


This.

Plus he's a drummer..... enough said.


:D

[Crowder]

Baker hated playing with Gary Moore, found Moore's playing "contrived," and wasn't shy about saying so.

I agree. His playing always sounds like a string of stock riffs to me, while he's trying to sell the "feeling" with his face. Different strokes I guess!

[MOJO]

Sounds like Gingers been hanging out with Stewart Copeland

[carbz]

To me that was a mediocre sample of Gary's playing. Without a doubt this is Gary at his best

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cgGdkC1bXA

[ronmail65]

Baker hated playing with Gary Moore, found Moore's playing "contrived," and wasn't shy about saying so.

Baker sounds like an a$$. Gary Moore smokes.

That's not the best performance of Gary's that I've seen, but he's one of the best IMO. Some of his riffs are rehearsed, but that's true of everyone to some degree. Improvision is never 100% new.

[Zingeroo]

Guitar is very, very.....umm......loud? It's just too much.

It's supposed to be loud. It's supposed to be TOO loud. Clapton forgot that.

[cinimod8791]

So loud it's apparently oblivious how far out of tune they are. Yikes!!!

[Zingeroo]

Have we all turned into such a bunch of old stodgy farts playing bluzak on Dumble clones that we have forgotten to appreciate someone just totally ripping it up?

[dwvinky]

IMO, guitar wasn't loud enough.....you can still hear the drums.

[Bezzy]

I have seen Gary play better but he always destroys. He attacks his guitar at times.

[gtrdave]

That first clip was Gary going through the motions.

THIS CLIP is Gary Moore tearing the face off of anyone listening:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtjDigJ_QQI

When "Still Got the Blues" came out, I stopped buying GM albums. He was so.much.better than that stuff.

[Matt L]

IMO, guitar wasn't loud enough.....you can still hear the drums.


Correct answer.

[tinkercity]

Have we all turned into such a bunch of old stodgy farts playing bluzak on Dumble clones that we have forgotten to appreciate someone just totally ripping it up?

Hahaha this actually made me laugh out loud. Agree. :rockin

[HoboMan]

Baker hated playing with Gary Moore, found Moore's playing "contrived," and wasn't shy about saying so.

That's the word I've been looking for ever since I first heard Gary Moore.

[Yngtchie Blacksteen]

Gary Moore is a really good musician.

[Stinky Kitty]

From the interview with Ginger "Why does rock music have to be so loud?" :omg


The man has a point. I mean, look how brutal "Painkiller" could be with harps and flutes. Clearly, Ginger is in his "hot tea w/ lemon" years. :p

On a non-related note, I cut my thumb on a tin can 40 years ago and the scar is still there so now I have something in common with my guitar hero.
AWESOME!!!!!

[Average Joe]

That whole show feature outstanding playing by GM - I like it a lot, more so than the album. I understand why GM isn't for everybody - even a huge fan as me will agree that he was sometimes over the top. But he always came to the music with full intensity and never settled for going through the motions. When that's the case, I can see how he could get carried away.

[freedom's door]

Have we all turned into such a bunch of old stodgy farts playing bluzak on Dumble clones that we have forgotten to appreciate someone just totally ripping it up?

Sig-worthy.

[abergdahl]

To me Gary Moore plain uninspiring here, i can't understand what Gary Moore was doing there.. I would have loved to see someone like David Torn making these guys improvise again.

[gtrdave]

To me Gary Moore plain uninspiring here, i can't understand what Gary Moore was doing there.

I know what you mean.
Maybe Gary would have rather been playing this song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLEb6LDg3qE

[abergdahl]

I know what you mean.
Maybe Gary would have rather been playing this song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLEb6LDg3qE

THAT was inspiring..

[gtrdave]

THAT was inspiring..

And if you liked that...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhtUSpnUhaE

This is the Gary Moore that few people know.
He was such an amazing musician.

[Pax]

It's supposed to be loud. It's supposed to be TOO loud. Clapton forgot that.

I guess we approach the concept of a band differently. I always like it when the intruments aren't crushing eachother in the mix.

[Pax]

Have we all turned into such a bunch of old stodgy farts playing bluzak on Dumble clones that we have forgotten to appreciate someone just totally ripping it up?

Uhhh? What was that you said, Sonny. Speak up!

Seriously, I don’t mind it loud. I just prefer some sonic balance. As for his playing, what I’ve heard never did much for me, to each his own.

[gtrdave]

Gary "destroying" in the '80s...pre-'got the blues' era:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtnKieMw7LY&feature=related

[imonabuss]

A genuine rocker of the highest degree.

[1967SG]

Gary "destroying" in the '80s...pre-'got the blues' era:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtnKieMw7LY&feature=related


Nice find. I still have Run for Cover and Still got the Blues on cassette. Saw him once in Thin Lizzy when they backed up Queen in the early 80's. He was quite good, but I like him better solo and I like T.L. better with Brain Robertson and Scott Gorham.

[Zingeroo]

Yeah, Robbo and Gorham were THE Thin Lizzy duo. They didn't have the name power of Moore, Sykes, even White, but they seemed to have the chemistry.

As far as the earlier statement of Moore's playing sounding "contrived," I don't find it's more contrived sounding than SRV, for example, but that's just me, maybe.

[TBoneDeluxe]

In an interview in the latest issue of Classic Rock, Baker calls Moore “the Pampered Pompadour Of Pop”, reckons his playing is “contrived” and says he once recommended that the six-stringer should see a psychiatrist.


:rotflmao

[NickZ]

What does Ginger Baker know anyway - he thought Clapton was good enough to play with:rotflmao

[Man with Gas]

Is it just me or was Ginger Baker actually out of time a few times early on in the piece?

For me it's laughable that Baker even got a gig with Gary Moore. I'd even go so far to say that Baker would have been the worst drummer Moore had ever played with in his career.

I can see and support that Gary Moore isn't for everyone due to his intensity, especially whilst playing (his way) more traditional Blues.

Having said that Gary Moore was of the highest calibre being a Rock Guitarist and Jazz Rock/Fusion Guitarist. His use of modes in a heavy rock sense was unequalled.

Go back to the 70s and hear him play with Coliseum 2 and you'll get a sense what quality of musician he was that most aren't aware of. (BTW: he's about 23 years old playing like this)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtjDigJ_QQI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20td_NqyMuI&feature=related

He's a little older here playing with Ian Paice http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIdTURK0tGY&feature=related

He was a guitarist's guitarist, band leader and songwriter on a global scale who worked 150% hard at everything he did throughout his musical life that spanned 4 decades.

Ginger who?

[Ephi82]

Baker hated playing with Gary Moore, found Moore's playing "contrived," and wasn't shy about saying so.


who does Baker like? Everything I hear about this crank old man is the same.

he dont like this, that, or somebody......

go off and die you ole f&*k

By the way, I think the clip is terrific! Moore and Bruce are right on. Baker, well he's a wanker drummer!

Go away yea old fart

[BryanMatthews]

what i saw in watching that clip was 3 guys on a stage who shared -1000% chemistry together, i mean absolutely naff all.

[Custom50]

Baker hated playing with Gary Moore, found Moore's playing "contrived," and wasn't shy about saying so.
good thing noone cares about Ginger Baker.




...kidding! I'm sure someone cares.

[Alister]

If no one cares about Ginger Baker, they probably don't care about Willie Dixon or Howlin' Wolf, either:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQLdztuMd1g&feature=related

[Gas-man]

A genuine rocker of the highest degree.


I see what you did there.

:p

[Marc Roy]

From the interview with Ginger "Why does rock music have to be so loud?" :omg



Because it's rock. Duh.

Gary Moore plays like Gary Moore. You either love it or you don't. Personally, I love the guy. Stole plenty of licks from him. If someone else doesn't care for him, so be it.

Maybe Ginger should start playing muzak instead. Seems like it's more to his volume level.

[tdarian]

I'd give just about anything to see Gary Moore play again and always enjoyed his playing and music. It was cool to watch some of these older vids.

I also respect Ginger Baker as a drummer. He's utterly amazing! Even though he was so intoxicated that he could barely stand (seriously...I was in the backstage pen watching all of this) when he got out the 2nd time (he tore his kit apart the 1st time before a lick was played and said "Welcome to Mickey Mouse Productions" into a cymbal mic before he stumbled off stage to return in an hour) he was...well he WAS Ginger Baker. A flippin masterful time machine.

Let me state that I am not a music critric...I have no desire to be other than to let music heal...and I'm certainly not qualified to critique. Very well qualified to enjoy, and I enjoyed the vids, Ginger's perspective and his playing, and I'll probably be sad when he's gone just like when Gary departed, RIP.

From my perspective, yes, Gary Moore is just Destroying!

[freedom's door]

Lots of interesting and varied replies- cool that we can all listen to the same performance, and have such varied opinions.

[ChrisP]

So loud it's apparently oblivious how far out of tune they are. Yikes!!!

fretless bass fail :D

GREAT bass player but he's playing out of tune, or Moore is WAY out of tune.

[Hacksaw]

I vote fretless bass player. :D he just went flat.

Gary Rocks. RIP - Better yet, Don't .. Rock on!

[meone]

Gary was tearing it up ~always dig what he was doing . Great licks .

[axuality.com]

Fireworks start at 3:20

kjFeQFHBU4M

Rock guitar playing gets no better than this IMO.

It's great.

If you like it, you should hear Clapton playing this song with those other two fellows on 'Wheels of Fire'.

I like Moore, but the way he keeps turning around to look at the drummer- Yikes. And why does he sound so much like Clapton does in this song?

If you're TRYING to sound like Clapton, cut down on the speed, because it disguises the great feeling that Clapton reflected.

I don't blame Baker for his comments posted by another poster.

[axuality.com]

Yeah, Robbo and Gorham were THE Thin Lizzy duo. They didn't have the name power of Moore, Sykes, even White, but they seemed to have the chemistry.

As far as the earlier statement of Moore's playing sounding "contrived," I don't find it's more contrived sounding than SRV, for example, but that's just me, maybe.

Who said SRV wasn't contrived also?

[freedom's door]

If you like it, you should hear Clapton playing this song with those other two fellows on 'Wheels of Fire'.


It's on Fresh Cream, isn't it?
Or are you talking about the live version on the bonus disc of WOF?

[axuality.com]

It's on Fresh Cream, isn't it?
Or are you talking about the live version on the bonus disc of WOF?
Live.

Bonus disk? It was originally a 2 record set. No bonus about it.

The one on Fresh Cream is wussy.
The one on WOF has Clapton playing so much like what Moore played, it actually inspired me to make the not-so-nice comment about Moore. :)

[rwe333]

Baker hated playing with Gary Moore, found Moore's playing "contrived," and wasn't shy about saying so.

...Baker seemingly hates everyone, especially Jack Bruce (who Baker should be flattered he got to play with).

[freedom's door]

Live.

Bonus disk? It was originally a 2 record set. No bonus about it.

The one on Fresh Cream is wussy.
The one on WOF has Clapton playing so much like what Moore played, it actually inspired me to make the not-so-nice comment about Moore. :)

Sorry, i'm not up to speed on my Cream discography :p

I will check out that live version ASAP- thanks for the recommendation.

[axuality.com]

In my opinion, guitar players need to stop studying each other so much, because all players in each genre are starting to all sound the same.

[axuality.com]

...Baker seemingly hates everyone, especially Jack Bruce (who Baker should be flattered he got to play with).
Bruce wasn't any better than Baker when they played in Cream.
In my opinion. :)

[axuality.com]

Sorry, i'm not up to speed on my Cream discography :p

I will check out that live version ASAP- thanks for the recommendation.

Really... :)

I'm a huge Cream fan, but unlike other bands, I think their studio stuff is nearly worthless compared to their live stuff. I don't even bother listening to Cream's studio stuff. Of course, with most bands that I know of, live stuff usually isn't as well recorded as Cream's live stuff is.

Try Live Cream I. Also Live Cream II.

[axuality.com]

...Baker seemingly hates everyone, especially Jack Bruce (who Baker should be flattered he got to play with).

I think Baker disliked how loud Bruce got. I can imagine that bass played through 2 or 3 Marshall full stacks could be a little rough to take.

[Gandalf5150]

I can see and support that Gary Moore isn't for everyone due to his intensity, especially whilst playing (his way) more traditional Blues.

Having said that Gary Moore was of the highest calibre being a Rock Guitarist and Jazz Rock/Fusion Guitarist. His use of modes in a heavy rock sense was unequalled.

Go back to the 70s and hear him play with Coliseum 2 and you'll get a sense what quality of musician he was that most aren't aware of. (BTW: he's about 23 years old playing like this)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtjDigJ_QQI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20td_NqyMuI&feature=related

He's a little older here playing with Ian Paice http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIdTURK0tGY&feature=related

He was a guitarist's guitarist, band leader and songwriter on a global scale who worked 150% hard at everything he did throughout his musical life that spanned 4 decades.

Ginger who?

Well said sir.

GM is my very fav player. He has inspired and influenced me more than any other guitarist.

We all have our favourites and we all have our influences.

Variety is the spice and all that, but this thread is about GM rippin it up, so lets enjoy a bit more.

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[Fezziwig]

The guitar and bass sound great to me in the BBM clip. To my ears, Baker is improvising too much with his drumming and at the beginning of the clip he doesn't sound like he's remotely in synch with Bruce or Moore.

Ah well, different strokes for different folks!

[dhdfoster]

I owned his "blues" albums years ago, but I just can't listen to them now. He had great ability, but listening to him play makes me feel like someone is yelling "LOOK HOW REALLY, REALLY, REALLY AWESOME I AM!!!!! I REALLY, REALLY REALLY WANT YOU TO THINK I'M AWESOME, TOO!!!!! DO YOU? DO YOU? DO YOU?".

[shg]

Gazza sometimes let his ego and his own sense of "marketing" (for want of a better word) override what many would consider good taste. I'll never forget the cringe I felt when I saw that he opened the Phil Lynott tribute concert with one of his own singles rather than a Lynott or Lizzy song, and I always felt his highgain rock masturbation while sharing the stage with Albert Collins and Albert King was quite disrespectful.

[Custom50]

If no one cares about Ginger Baker, they probably don't care about Willie Dixon or Howlin' Wolf, either:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQLdztuMd1g&feature=related
if someone cares about willie dixon or howlin' wolf then they probably can't stand ginger baker for doing such a hack job on drums on the cream version. just an opinion of course.

[Rad Skronker]

I've always liked Gary's version of this song.

-br2l8IPpNY

[Alister]

if someone cares about willie dixon or howlin' wolf then they probably can't stand ginger baker for doing such a hack job on drums on the cream version. just an opinion of course.

Pray, tell us more about why you think Baker's playing on Cream's Spoonful is a "hack" job,, even if it is just your opinion.

[Matt L]

What do Ginger Baker and coffee have in common?


They both suck without cream.

*rimshot*

[Go Cat Go!!]

Gazza sometimes let his ego and his own sense of "marketing" (for want of a better word) override what many would consider good taste. I'll never forget the cringe I felt when I saw that he opened the Phil Lynott tribute concert with one of his own singles rather than a Lynott or Lizzy song, and I always felt his highgain rock masturbation while sharing the stage with Albert Collins and Albert King was quite disrespectful.

Oh thank goodness! I thought I was the only one who felt this way. I couldn't agree more.

I can appreciate GM in small doses. I get ear fatigue if I try to listen for extended periods. I downloaded his rock albums onto my phone a few weeks ago. I used to listen to them relentlessly as a kid. I had to take them off shortly thereafter. While the playing is sublime the songs are embarrassingly bad. Law of the Jungle stands out as some real cheese.

We step into a world of danger
Each night we answer neon's call
We steer away from passing strangers
Jumping at shadows on the wall

The law of the jungle
Is so hard to break
When death walks behind you
With each step you take

[aliensporebomb]

I think I see what he was referring to. He just thought Moore should be playing something different and 100% improvised every time whereas Moore was approaching it from the "if I were Eric Clapton, what would I play here?" Two different schools.

I like Moore's playing and think its a shame he passed on. I saw him live in 1984 and the audience wasn't getting it at all since he was opening for Rush but he was impressive. What really was scary is whoever was playing rhythm guitar for him that night got one solo and he was actually more impressive than Moore himself - I never found out who it was.

[Average Joe]

Gazza sometimes let his ego and his own sense of "marketing" (for want of a better word) override what many would consider good taste. I'll never forget the cringe I felt when I saw that he opened the Phil Lynott tribute concert with one of his own singles rather than a Lynott or Lizzy song, and I always felt his highgain rock masturbation while sharing the stage with Albert Collins and Albert King was quite disrespectful.

About that last bit, I think he honestly felt it was great to contrast two styles like that. Not sure I agree, but I think he was sincere in wanting to pay tribute.

[fjblair]

Baker hated playing with Gary Moore, found Moore's playing "contrived," and wasn't shy about saying so.


Gary Moore's playing notwithstanding, Ginger Baker is a punk. Most everything I've read about the guy makes me dislike him.

[yngwie308]

The OP's clip is from the Jack Bruce 50th birthday concert on WDR German TV.
Jack Bruce's guitar player at the time Blues Sarceno dropped out at the last minute (thank God) as Jack called Gary Moore on very very short notice to fill in on the Cream era material.
So this was pre-BBM and was the genesis of that band.
I have met that crazy mother****er Ginger Baker in person at a pub in Harrow on the Hill in NW London back in 1971.
He was then and still is crazy as a loon.
Ginger is really a trad jazz drummer at heart, as he started out so in Britain.
I feel Gary's brutally honest approach, didn't sit well with him.
I absolutely loved Gary's playing on this show.
You should check out the Jack Bruce Bass Instruction video, which is now available on Ebay as a VHS rip.
Gary's playing on that session with a vintage Gibson Les Paul SG, (borrowed), and the Cream songs were given their best workout I feel then.
Eric Clapton was one of Gary's greatest inspirations as a young lad, as well as Peter Green, so he has always been respectful.
In BBM it was total madness, with Gary even leaving the gig before an encore at a London gig, Marquee I think!
Gary swore after all of that that next time Jack needed a bass player to get Eric back.
That Gary's Clapton playing is spot on tone, content and accuracy wise is true.
Eric played this stuff first it is true, but he could never play that material with the chops and fire that Gary does back at the time of this clip or even with those anemic Cream Reunion shows which suck, I'm sorry.
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g219/davida54/Gary%20Moore%20Misc/0abe5cf4.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g219/davida54/Greeny/LPF16.jpg
yngwie308

[freedom's door]

The OP's clip is from the Jack Bruce 50th birthday concert on WDR German TV.
Jack Bruce's guitar player at the time Blues Sarceno dropped out at the last minute (thank God) as Jack called Gary Moore on very very short notice to fill in on the Cream era material.
So this was pre-BBM and was the genesis of that band.


Didn't know that- thanks for the info!

[rwe333]

I like Moore's playing and think its a shame he passed on. I saw him live in 1984 and the audience wasn't getting it at all since he was opening for Rush but he was impressive. What really was scary is whoever was playing rhythm guitar for him that night got one solo and he was actually more impressive than Moore himself - I never found out who it was.

Good chance it was Neil Carter, who also did keys/rhythm guitar/backing vox for UFO in the Paul Chapman (post-Schenker) years before touring w/ GM. He's a wonderful journeyman musician (though a far cry from Moore in terms of uniqueness/versatility/facility, IMHO).

[DrumBob]

Take it from a drummer, Baker is perhaps the most overrated, arrogant, egotistical wanker who ever picked up sticks. He influenced me back in the Cream days, but I can't listen to his playing anymore. Watch him in that clip. He looks clumsy, making jerky motions behind the set. I had the chance to meet him years ago and refused.

Moore smoked, but that's not his best stuff. And yes, Eric has forgotten how to play with that kind of fire on a Gibson guitar with humbuckers. That's all I'm gonna say on that subject.

Now, I have to bring my Tokai Love Rock on the gig this weekend. I want that sound.

[TonyBony]

Your posts are always very informative thank you! :beerI didn't know that is how BBM got together and I have been a huge fan of Gary's for years.
The OP's clip is from the Jack Bruce 50th birthday concert on WDR German TV.
Jack Bruce's guitar player at the time Blues Sarceno dropped out at the last minute (thank God) as Jack called Gary Moore on very very short notice to fill in on the Cream era material.
So this was pre-BBM and was the genesis of that band.
I have met that crazy mother****er Ginger Baker in person at a pub in Harrow on the Hill in NW London back in 1971.
He was then and still is crazy as a loon.
Ginger is really a trad jazz drummer at heart, as he started out so in Britain.
I feel Gary's brutally honest approach, didn't sit well with him.
I absolutely loved Gary's playing on this show.
You should check out the Jack Bruce Bass Instruction video, which is now available on Ebay as a VHS rip.
Gary's playing on that session with a vintage Gibson Les Paul SG, (borrowed), and the Cream songs were given their best workout I feel then.
Eric Clapton was one of Gary's greatest inspirations as a young lad, as well as Peter Green, so he has always been respectful.
In BBM it was total madness, with Gary even leaving the gig before an encore at a London gig, Marquee I think!
Gary swore after all of that that next time Jack needed a bass player to get Eric back.
That Gary's Clapton playing is spot on tone, content and accuracy wise is true.
Eric played this stuff first it is true, but he could never play that material with the chops and fire that Gary does back at the time of this clip or even with those anemic Cream Reunion shows which suck, I'm sorry.
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g219/davida54/Gary%20Moore%20Misc/0abe5cf4.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g219/davida54/Greeny/LPF16.jpg
yngwie308

[Lightningrt]

Ginger Baker - my fave drummer, love his style, his polyrhythms, his sound, and his off-the-wall-ness [is that a word?]. Gary Moore - been a fan forever of him too. Jack Bruce - he may well be my fave bass player.

I think Ginger deliberately tried to put off Gary here, as he used to with Jack and Eric in the final days of Cream- there is no need to do so in Spoonful - it's a powerful-enough song in it's own right and works better straight. I thought his drum sound was a bit weedy too here. Gary was doing his best and did a really good job in the circumstances - he is used to having a solid backing behind him, so I can see why BBM didn't really work long term. Both Ginger and Jack, in their books said it wasn't a band that gelled.

[V-Type]

Im so thankful too have caught Gary at different stages in his long and loved career.
His early 80's smaller venue gigs were Amazing.
The guy had tone and touch that any 100 guys really couldnt approach imo.
Sure he played up the lead work but hey if you can play like Gary then why not.
I still hold his cover of Jeff Becks Shapes of Things as one of Rocks greatest Examples of Guitar period.
3YPGMKKNT2M

[Lightningrt]

Im so thankful too have caught Gary at different stages in his long and loved career.
His early 80's smaller venue gigs were Amazing.
The guy had tone and touch that any 100 guys really couldnt approach imo.
Sure he played up the lead work but hey if you can play like Gary then why not.
I still hold his cover of Jeff Becks Shapes of Things as one of Rocks greatest Examples of Guitar period.
3YPGMKKNT2M

I missed that early '80s period to see Gary live - I don't think he did much that was near to me geographically and I was only 16 or 17. I too love that era and realise it would have been special to see him then. After Victims of the Future I got a bit bored with it all, having walked out of a show in 1985 that was pure noise and whammy bar. I saw him again twice after that, once doing blues on the Back to the Blues tour [using a 335] and then when he did Scars[ with the Strat back in the fold]. That Scars stuff was probably the nearest to the early '80's stuff that I was going to see. He sure was an icon to me.

[V-Type]

I missed that early '80s period to see Gary live - I don't think he did much that was near to me geographically and I was only 16 or 17. I too love that era and realise it would have been special to see him then. After Victims of the Future I got a bit bored with it all, having walked out of a show in 1985 that was pure noise and whammy bar. I saw him again twice after that, once doing blues on the Back to the Blues tour [using a 335] and then when he did Scars[ with the Strat back in the fold]. That Scars stuff was probably the nearest to the early '80's stuff that I was going to see. He sure was an icon to me.
2x in Detroit and he also played Toledo which at that time we were taking a weekend at Cedar Point which was very near.
So I essentially caught 2 shows in 83 and one in 84 and this is when he was playing 5000 -10000 plus cap halls abroad but 1000 sized venues in some states.
He was and is a master and I would think with your local he would have been easily accessible the last dozen or so past years.
His ability too master so many levels of guitar and music was/is Astounding.
And Not only in Rock.
Also of Note tickets for each show were yep $10.
Worth 100x as much imo.

[cruisemates]

I have not followed Gary Moore's career, and I have never heard this BBM before. But as a huge fan of Cream here is how it looked to me.

Baker used to follow Clapton like a lapdog. He didn't miss a single twist or turn. That was what made Cream. He didn't even try to follow Gary Moore in this project. Why is a topic I won't go into - but it is obvious he just isn't engaged.

By the same topken - Gary did not do for Ginge what Clapton used to do, start small and really build one level at a time. Gary went from 0 to 90 in the first 30 seconds. EC never would have done that. That did make Gary look full of himself.

Ginger Baker is an amazing drummer as far as I am concerned (as a guitar player). I know his technique is unusual, but his sense of timing was immaculate with Cream, even the reunion concert at Albert Hall circa 2008, Ginge just brings it, because it was Eric playing (Jack Bruce was the one who didn't show up at that gig).

I would like to hear more BBM - I am betting they had some really good stuff, but this one performance doesn't show it and it makes Gary look bad. It also makes Ginger Baker look bad for not trying a little harder.

Cream live was "jazz" played in rock & blues fashion, but it was actually pure improv where each player reacted to the others. It was an anomally that worked. This BBM looks like they wanted to go there, but for some reason Baker held back which made Moore try to hard. Too bad really. It takes a LOT of guts to try to replace EC in Cream.

[clint]

He destroyed it allright :rotflmao
Seriously, I can appreciate his chops. Who wouldn't kill to have chops like that (and show them off)?
GM was at his best doing hard rock/metal. That's what I hear in his solos.

[Stinky Kitty]

You should check out the Jack Bruce Bass Instruction video, which is now available on Ebay as a VHS rip.
Gary's playing on that session with a vintage Gibson Les Paul SG, (borrowed), and the Cream songs were given their best workout I feel then.


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