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Swain
02-04-2012, 01:03 PM
Can't wait!!!


Who do you pick to win this one?


Here's the play-by-play for those who don't get the PPV:

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/UFC-143-Diaz-vs-Condit-Live-Results-and-Play-by-Play-710-pm-ET-39067

flea
02-04-2012, 01:34 PM
This is a fight that's really hard to predict. Both fighters are very well rounded and can end the fight standing or on the ground. I think Diaz may be slightly better than Condit, but wouldn't be surprised if Condit upsets him. I say Werdum outclasses Nelson, Koscheck out-wrestles Pierce, and Barao submits Jorgenson.

No.9
02-04-2012, 01:44 PM
Diaz. High volume punching, better clinch work against the cage, superior BJJ, and most importantly, he doesn't give a $hit about anyone or anything.

Condit is faster, stronger, and an excellent striker, but Diaz thrives off of fighting guys who are better, he wears them down, gets in their head, and makes them look stupid.

I'm rooting for Big Country as well.

sodapopinski
02-04-2012, 01:51 PM
man, it's gonna be an exciting fight. I cant wait. I'm rooting for Condit because I can't stand Diaz.

No.9
02-04-2012, 02:32 PM
man, it's gonna be an exciting fight. I cant wait. I'm rooting for Condit because I can't stand Diaz.

Who would you rather see against GSP? Winner of this fight gets the interim belt and the title fight against GSP.

mrmatt1972
02-04-2012, 03:00 PM
GSP could easily beat Diaz with his intelligence, I'm not sure he could do the same against Condit.

projam619
02-04-2012, 03:03 PM
I always hope Diaz loses, but he always disappoints me in that regard. But Condit had got the goods for an upset.

WheelchairBandit
02-04-2012, 03:45 PM
I favor Diaz slightly just due to the fact that I think he'll be able to dictate the range and pace of the fight. That being said, I wouldn't be suprised at all if Condit just kicked Diaz on the inside of the leg over and over again and then try to bust him up with elbows on the inside.

It's hard to call a fight where both guys have overwhelming offense and very poor defense. I expect them both to have their moments in this fight, and I can see it going to a very close decision.

Brian.

Cobra
02-04-2012, 05:00 PM
Diaz FTW...

Swain
02-04-2012, 06:50 PM
Nelson will be interesting to see also. Did he do anything to step up his game since the last fight? He seemed to be happy with his skillset before, and now is facing top tier guys who have bested him. So, will he step up now that he's in deeper waters?

Audioholic
02-04-2012, 07:04 PM
I hope Condit wins...

ThugNoMoe
02-04-2012, 10:07 PM
about to start.

sodapopinski
02-04-2012, 10:13 PM
Who would you rather see against GSP? Winner of this fight gets the interim belt and the title fight against GSP.

Yeah I know. I would rather see GSP vs Diaz, but I'd rather have Condit win.

ThugNoMoe
02-04-2012, 10:25 PM
first round.. condit imo.. but I bet the judges gave it to diaz for pushing the action.

ThugNoMoe
02-04-2012, 10:30 PM
2nd round 10-9 condit.. landed better.. executed his game plan.. but still didn't push the action..

ThugNoMoe
02-04-2012, 10:35 PM
not sure on that one.

ThugNoMoe
02-04-2012, 10:37 PM
condit had some nice combos.. nick landed that round..

sodapopinski
02-04-2012, 10:42 PM
I have Condit with 3 rounds

ThugNoMoe
02-04-2012, 10:48 PM
i got condit with 4 rounds.

Darby Crash
02-04-2012, 10:54 PM
Weedman loses!

http://cdn3.sbnation.com/imported_assets/309332/diaz-weed.jpg

sodapopinski
02-04-2012, 10:56 PM
Diaz is a baby, now he wants to retire...
He didn't have a plan B and Carlos showed good movement.

silencer eleven
02-04-2012, 10:57 PM
It was hilarious to see Diaz afterwards. Look at the difference in their faces! Diaz got beat. I had it 4-1.

Zero G
02-04-2012, 11:01 PM
It was hilarious to see Diaz afterwards. Look at the difference in their faces! Diaz got beat. I had it 4-1.

I had it 4-1 Condit too. Brilliant gameplan executed perfectly. Want some cheese for that whine, Diaz? :rotflmao What a sore loser. Good riddance! Condit is a classy guy to not sink to his level.

ThugNoMoe
02-04-2012, 11:02 PM
lol at him retiring.. guy has no class.. wants everyone to fight his fight??! dude is a whack job. .

cbpickin
02-04-2012, 11:18 PM
Yeah, I loved how he said he only had some baby leg kicks and was backing up the whole time. Really? Have you seen your face?

WheelchairBandit
02-05-2012, 06:53 AM
I had it 3-2 for Condit. Nick Diaz was a sore loser as always, but then again we're talking about a guy who doesn't think he's ever lost a fight.

Brian.

ford
02-05-2012, 07:01 AM
Talking with a guy that writes about UFC for a living and attends most of the big events live.... Diaz has some real mental issues.... he just isn't wired right in the brain it seems....

Hence the crazy and idiotic things he says.... it isn't an act... it's the real him...


Condit fought smart... like GSP would have against Diaz... Diaz seems to forget its MMA and leg kicks count and hurt...

like the one that almost knocked off Bruce Leroy's head earlier....

Werdum was impressive. He's really improved his striking.... Roy has a great chin as usual, but he's just below those top guys as far as his skills. He did actually come in better shape than normal.. though it is hard to tell.....:p

Swain
02-05-2012, 09:26 AM
I bet Diaz doesn't retire. He'll come back soon, spouting off some more! LOL

And that's great too! He's colorful, and a truly great fighter. He just ran into CC, who is also truly great. And it could've gone either way. I think it CLEARLY went Carlos' way last night. He beat Nick this time.
Maybe there'll be a rivalry now?

I see Nick coming back, simply because he STILL hasn't fought GSP! It'll probably drive him nuts, because fighting GSP has been so close twice now.

No.9
02-05-2012, 09:28 AM
Rematch.

cbpickin
02-05-2012, 09:44 AM
I can see why Nick is frustrated, since he did have Condit backing up for a good portion of the fight, and he had the only thing close to a takedown in the fight, but it comes down to strikes landed and Condit was connecting throughout.

No.9
02-05-2012, 09:51 AM
I see Nick coming back, simply because he STILL hasn't fought GSP! It'll probably drive him nuts, because fighting GSP has been so close twice now.

I truly hope so, he is one of the last true brawlers. Problem is, GSP is far from ready to fight anyone, Dana mentioned how GSP hurt his knee when he simply stood up out of his seat last night. Rematch is a big possibility, IF Nick wants to keep fighting. I like Condit, but IMO Diaz has the skills to beat Condit any way he wants, Diaz simply got outsmarted by a Greg Jackson game plan last night.

Reasons why Diaz deserves a rematch...

Diaz landed twice as many punches, 86 to Condit's 42.

Diaz had octagon control the entire fight.

Diaz scored the only takedown.

BUT, Condit landed a $hit ton of leg kicks, pretty sure it was a record number in a single fight. Leg kicks won the fight for Condit. Diaz thought he has ahead the whole time based on punches landed, but judges count leg kicks just as much as a punch to the face. This is something I partially disagree with, but it is what it is.

octatonic
02-05-2012, 09:58 AM
lol at him retiring.. guy has no class.. wants everyone to fight his fight??! dude is a whack job. .

Big +1.
I dislike both the Diaz brothers for what is essentially the same "technique".
Smack talk in the octagon isn't a game plan- it is lame and unsportsmanlike.
He has a go at Condit for spinning backfists but is happy to fire back with pitter-patter slaps all night long.

I had the first two rounds to Diaz and the last 3 to Condit.
He lost the fight and should have taken it on the chin instead of flouncing out of the ring like that.

Condit didn't exactly turn in a champion performance though.
I reckon GSP will have a fairly easy time of it when the time comes, provided he recovers properly.

WheelchairBandit
02-05-2012, 10:04 AM
Diaz had octagon control the entire fight.

Walking forward while your opponent repeatedly kicks you in the legs and circles away does not constitute "octogon control".

Brian.

BedroomRockStar01
02-05-2012, 10:06 AM
Diaz took 1, 2 and 5 says Jon Jones, Chuck Liddell and Frankie Edgar amongst others.

I don't have a problem with the decision as much as I have a problem with Condit fighting the most unCondit-like fight of his career. I feel bad for anyone who paid $60 expecting a war and got a dull Greg Jackson coached snoozefest.

Call it "technical" if you want. That's Joe Rogan code for boring.

WheelchairBandit
02-05-2012, 10:11 AM
I don't have a problem with the decision as much as I have a problem with Condit fighting the most unCondit-like fight of his career. I feel bad for anyone who paid $60 expecting a war and got a dull Greg Jackson coached snoozefest.

Funny, you never hear any of this "OMG it's a Greg Jackson snoozefest" when Donald Cerrone, Leonard Garcia, Diego Sanchez, Jon Jones, ect. ect. fight.

Brian.

No.9
02-05-2012, 10:18 AM
Walking forward while your opponent repeatedly kicks you in the legs and circles away does not constitute "octogon control".

Brian.

Controlling the center, pushing forward from the center, forcing your opponent backwards, constantly moving forwards, using the fence, this all defines octagon control. Being aggressive in an aggressive position, moving forward and striking.

Diaz was the clear aggressor, and controller of the octagon. IMO.

Let me break down the UFC Judging criteria.

Effective Striking
Grappling
Aggression
Octagon Control

No.9
02-05-2012, 10:27 AM
Diaz took 1, 2 and 5 says Jon Jones, Chuck Liddell and Frankie Edgar amongst others.

I don't have a problem with the decision as much as I have a problem with Condit fighting the most unCondit-like fight of his career. I feel bad for anyone who paid $60 expecting a war and got a dull Greg Jackson coached snoozefest.

Call it "technical" if you want. That's Joe Rogan code for boring.

I couldn't agree more. I saw rounds 1, 2, and 5 for Diaz. I can't stand the way Greg Jackson instructs theses killer fighters, like Condit, to avoid the fight altogether and take advantage of the points system. It's a terrible thing for the sport and the fans.

WheelchairBandit
02-05-2012, 10:37 AM
Controlling the center, pushing forward from the center, forcing your opponent backwards, constantly moving forwards, using the fence, this all defines octagon control. Being aggressive in an aggressive position, moving forward and striking.

Sorry, but none of that counts when your opponent is circling away from you and kicking your legs to pieces. If Diaz truely had "octogon control", he would have been able to back Condit into the fence and then tee off on him. Instead, he just followed Carlos around while getting soundly outstruck.

Let me break down the UFC Judging criteria.

Effective Striking
Grappling
Aggression
Octagon Control

Note the use of the term "effective" - that doesn't just go for striking, but grappling, agression and octogon control as well. If I run at you swinging windmills and you consistently avoid them and land counter punches, you are being more effective than I am. And that's what counts - it isn't a dance, it's a fight. You don't get points for looking like you're doing something.

Brian.

silencer eleven
02-05-2012, 10:46 AM
Sorry, but none of that counts when your opponent is circling away from you and kicking your legs to pieces. If Diaz truely had "octogon control", he would have been able to back Condit into the fence and then tee off on him. Instead, he just followed Carlos around while getting soundly outstruck.



Note the use of the term "effective" - that doesn't just go for striking, but grappling, agression and octogon control as well. If I run at you swinging windmills and you consistently avoid them and land counter punches, you are being more effective than I am. And that's what counts - it isn't a dance, it's a fight. You don't get points for looking like you're doing something.

Brian.

I totally agree. Diaz talked about backing down Condit all fight, well he basically attacked and did zero damage and got out struck consistently. Kicked in the legs, kicked in the face and took very very little damage.

The BEST part was in the post fight rematch where Diaz said, if he had known he was not winning the fight he would've locked up his arm and submitted him.

No.9
02-05-2012, 10:48 AM
Sorry, but none of that counts when your opponent is circling away from you and kicking your legs to pieces. If Diaz truely had "octogon control", he would have been able to back Condit into the fence and then tee off on him. Instead, he just followed Carlos around while getting soundly outstruck.



Note the use of the term "effective" - that doesn't just go for striking, but grappling, agression and octogon control as well. If I run at you swinging windmills and you consistently avoid them and land counter punches, you are being more effective than I am. And that's what counts - it isn't a dance, it's a fight. You don't get points for looking like you're doing something.

Brian.
First off, the leg kicks clearly did not bother Nick, he wasn't even checking them, nothing was in pieces.

You can see it different ways, BUT...

Diaz effectively landed 86 punches to the head of Condit, he had Condit continuously backing up against the fence while effectively landing strikes in that aggressive position. An effective strike is what lands. Diaz effectively landed, and effectively used the fence to land his punches throughout the entire fight. Condit was on the retreat for five rounds straight, never once in an aggressive position.

Diaz was effectively landing MORE punches against the fence, better utilizing and controlling the octagon. He was clearly effective.

Diaz got the only takedown, and took the back position, that's was THE most dominant position of the fight.

Again. Diaz landed 86 punches, Condit landed 42. The majority of Diaz's punches were landing against the fence, while effectively controlling the octagon and using it to land punches.

WheelchairBandit
02-05-2012, 10:55 AM
Diaz effectively landed 86 punches to the head of Condit, he had Condit continuously backing up against the fence while effectively landing strikes in that aggressive position. An effective strike is what lands. Diaz effectively landed and effectively used the fence to land punches the entire fight IMO. Condit was on the retreat for five rounds straight, never once in an aggressive position.

Listening to you, you'd think the fight was a replay of Kalib Starnes vs. Nate Quarry. For crying out loud, Condit outstruck Diaz to the tune of 159 to 117, and landed 68 leg kicks. What more do you want him to do, shoot Diaz with a bazooka?


Diaz was effectively landing MORE punches against the fence, better utilizing and controlling the octagon. He was clearly effective.

He was clearly effective in getting his legs torn to pieces. That's about it.

Brian.

WheelchairBandit
02-05-2012, 10:57 AM
Again. Diaz landed 86 punches, Condit landed 42. The majority of Diaz's punches were landing against the fence, while effectively controlling the octagon and using it to land punches.


http://blog.fightmetric.com/2012/02/condit-vs-diaz-official-ufc-statistics.html

Brian.

No.9
02-05-2012, 10:58 AM
Listening to you, you'd think the fight was a replay of Kalib Starnes vs. Nate Quarry. For crying out loud, Condit outstruck Diaz to the tune of 159 to 117, and landed 68 leg kicks. What more do you want him to do, shoot Diaz with a bazooka?




He was clearly effective in getting his legs torn to pieces. That's about it.

Brian.

Bottom line. Being more effective against the fence, getting the only takedown, taking the back position, landing twice as many punches, using the fence to effectively land punches. It was all Diaz. These are facts.

No.9
02-05-2012, 11:02 AM
http://blog.fightmetric.com/2012/02/condit-vs-diaz-official-ufc-statistics.html

Brian.

This is showing Diaz connected twice as many punches to the head AND body in rounds 1, 2, and 5 more to the head in round 3.

Condit and his weak leg kicks are all that kept him on the judges scorecard.

WheelchairBandit
02-05-2012, 11:03 AM
Bottom line. Being more effective against the fence, getting the only takedown, taking the back position, landing twice as many punches, using the fence to effectively land punches. It was all Diaz. These are facts.

Hilarious.

Brian.

silencer eleven
02-05-2012, 11:03 AM
Bottom line. Being more effective against the fence, getting the only takedown, taking the back position, landing twice as many punches, using the fence to effectively land punches. It was all Diaz. These are facts.

Did you see the fight statistics above? You can't only take into account punches. If you just based it off kicks, Condit won in a landslide!

WheelchairBandit
02-05-2012, 11:04 AM
This is showing Diaz connected more punches to the head, exactly my point.

Jesus Christ, take the Diaz fanboy glasses off for a minute. It's getting silly.

Brian.

silencer eleven
02-05-2012, 11:04 AM
This is showing Diaz connected more punches to the head in rounds 1, 2, and 3.

By 7 punches! Look at total strikes landed! Its not a boxing match. Also Condit landed 50% more power punches to the head.

No.9
02-05-2012, 11:12 AM
Hilarious.

Brian.

Diaz landed more strikes to the head 3 out of 5 rounds, it's a fact. Condit landed baby leg kicks which barely seemed effective, but effective to the judges score. Diaz was walking fine and pressing forward, no red marks and no swelling, what makes you think those leg kicks were damaging?

No.9
02-05-2012, 11:13 AM
Jesus Christ, take the Diaz fanboy glasses off for a minute. It's getting silly.

Brian.

Read my post earlier, I clearly said I liked Condit, I just hate Greg Jackson. This is about the points system, not being a fanboy.

No.9
02-05-2012, 11:14 AM
By 7 punches! Look at total strikes landed! Its not a boxing match. Also Condit landed 50% more power punches to the head.

Power punches? I didn't see a single power punch the entire fight, that's all subjective. Not once was either guy rocked or wobbled.

WheelchairBandit
02-05-2012, 11:17 AM
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f19/GuitarBandit/implied-facepalm.jpg

Brian.

No.9
02-05-2012, 11:19 AM
Bottom line Greg Jackson blows, I hate mosquito fighting techniques, and that fight COULD have been epic if Condit came forward.

I'm not bashing either fighter, just simply the fight itself, it just didn't happen.

No.9
02-05-2012, 11:23 AM
I'm probably just as pissed I paid $60, if that helps you guys understand my contributing disgust. I thought this was going to be epic. Fu@K!

I like both fighters, but man the fight was a huge let down. I'm not here to argue, just to vent, I'm done.

WheelchairBandit
02-05-2012, 11:23 AM
Bottom line Greg Jackson blows, I hate mosquito fighting techniques, and that fight COULD have been epic if Condit came forward.

I'm not bashing either fighter, just simply the fight itself, it just didn't happen.

Translation:

"HOW DARE CARLOS CONDIT BEAT NICK DIAZ USING PROPER TECHNIQUE AND GAME PLANNING! I WANT MY $60 BACK! 209 FOREVER!"

Brian.

silencer eleven
02-05-2012, 11:26 AM
Also, I'll just say while some of the leg kicks were as more a defensive mechanism, there were many solid, hard leg kicks as well.

No.9
02-05-2012, 11:26 AM
Translation:

"HOW DARE CARLOS CONDIT BEAT NICK DIAZ USING PROPER TECHNIQUE AND GAME PLANNING! I WANT MY $60 BACK! 209 FOREVER!"

Brian.

Fair. I'm just pissed cause it was so boring. I liked Condit, he just pissed me off beyond belief for not engaging/pressing forward.

He's the "Natural Born Killer" but he looked like the "Natural Born Runner".

No.9
02-05-2012, 11:27 AM
Also, I'll just say while some of the leg kicks were as more a defensive mechanism, there were many solid, hard leg kicks as well.

Maybe, I was trying to convince myself that too, but no visible marks and Diaz was not even flinching/checking them, they looked simply like defensive/point scoring kicks IMO.

silencer eleven
02-05-2012, 11:28 AM
Fair. I'm just pissed cause it was so boring. I liked Condit, he just pissed me off beyond belief for not engaging/pressing forward.

He's the "Natural Born Killer" but he looked like the "Natural Born Runner".

I definitely understand what you're saying, but basically you're angry cause Condit didn't fight Diaz's way. IMO, it wasn't all that exciting, but come on, Diaz was walking him down all fight and not throwing or landing any big punches. He may have shown more ring control, but threw far fewer strikes and landed far fewer.

silencer eleven
02-05-2012, 11:29 AM
No. 9, I understand, but some you could hear the solid solid impact. He's definitely feeling it this morning. Not to mention the right side of his face was torn up.

No.9
02-05-2012, 11:31 AM
I definitely understand what you're saying, but basically you're angry cause Condit didn't fight Diaz's way. IMO, it wasn't all that exciting, but come on, Diaz was walking him down all fight and not throwing or landing any big punches. He may have shown more ring control, but threw far fewer strikes and landed far fewer.

I was expecting a head hunting bloodfest, sounds sick I know, and Condit has KO power, BUT Condit didn't throw any punches!? WTF!!

silencer eleven
02-05-2012, 11:33 AM
I think Condit stuck to his game plan that he knew would win the fight.

I also think once Diaz discovered that he couldn't get his fight, he seemed to not really know what to do. In rounds 3 and 4 especially, it seemed Condit settled in and picked Diaz apart.

No.9
02-05-2012, 11:33 AM
No. 9, I understand, but some you could hear the solid solid impact. He's definitely feeling it this morning. Not to mention the right side of his face was torn up.

I saw the bruises, but it wasn't enough. Nick has so much scar tissue on his face that he usually breaks wide open with a strong gust of wind, you could tell he didn't get hit that hard.

WheelchairBandit
02-05-2012, 11:35 AM
Fair. I'm just pissed cause it was so boring. I liked Condit, he just pissed me off beyond belief for not engaging/pressing forward.

You thought that was boring? Really? Compared to what exactly? I thought it was a competitive, entertaining 5 round fight between two elite level welterweights. It was sure a lot more entertaining than Werdum beating up Roy Nelson.

He's the "Natural Born Killer" but he looked like the "Natural Born Runner".

In a fight for an interim title and a shot at fighting quite possibly the best MMA fighter to date, you want Carlos Condit to go out there and engage in a slobber knocker with Nick Diaz? Really?

Brian.

No.9
02-05-2012, 11:37 AM
I think Condit stuck to his game plan that he knew would win the fight.

I also think once Diaz discovered that he couldn't get his fight, he seemed to not really know what to do. In rounds 3 and 4 especially, it seemed Condit settled in and picked Diaz apart.

Yeah, Greg Jackson coaches champions. His game plans never cater to the crowd, and they're always super conservative. I almost denied the fact Jackson was behind Condit, thinking "Condit is a killer, he's gonna go out and look for a KO, he's finished almost every opponent", BUT he fought like a scared girl, it pissed me off.

No.9
02-05-2012, 11:41 AM
You thought that was boring? Really? Compared to what exactly?
Brian.

I thought Condit was gonna go toe-to-toe with Diaz, I didn't think he was gonna be backpedaling and avoiding the exchange. I would have rather seen them exchange, if Condit moved forward the fight might have ended early on. A leg kick-backpedal fest was not what I wanted to spend $60 to watch, it's just not what I expected from Condit. I give more credit to Diaz because at least he was trying to get an exchange going.

WheelchairBandit
02-05-2012, 11:42 AM
Maybe, I was trying to convince myself that too, but no visible marks and Diaz was not even flinching/checking them, they looked simply like defensive/point scoring kicks IMO.

You could hit Nick Diaz in the face with a frying pan and he wouldn't flinch, but he was wobbling all over the place every time Condit landed those kicks. That's always been a huge hole in the Diaz brother's game - that flat footed boxing stance makes them incredibly vunerable to leg kicks. It wasn't that long ago that Evangelista Cyborg used inside leg kicks to make Nick look silly for almost 10 minutes.

Brian.

No.9
02-05-2012, 11:56 AM
You could hit Nick Diaz in the face with a frying pan and he wouldn't flinch, but he was wobbling all over the place every time Condit landed those kicks. That's always been a huge hole in the Diaz brother's game - that flat footed boxing stance makes them incredibly vunerable to leg kicks. It wasn't that long ago that Evangelista Cyborg used inside leg kicks to make Nick look silly for almost 10 minutes.

Brian.

Condit has great kicks, but they didn't seem to be there last night.

I strongly believe Condit was using leg kicks to score points, he wasn't turning into them or rolling the hip over much. Diaz was walking right through those kicks, no marks and no swelling, not even checking them. Usually if they hurt, the fighter at least checks them by lifting that lead leg, and you would certainly see marks/swelling.

I would have rather seen more punches from Condit, more coming forward, more exchanges, just more fighting. Hopefully this fight is not indicative of his new style. He looked nothing like a killer last night, if anything he looked like a typical Greg Jackson fighter, like GSP, and I mean that in the worst way possible ;).

Zero G
02-05-2012, 01:17 PM
This is showing Diaz connected twice as many punches to the head AND body in rounds 1, 2, and 5 more to the head in round 3.


LOL What kind of weird math are you using to make that conclusion? Did you actually watch the fight? Doesn't sound like you did.

No.9
02-05-2012, 01:56 PM
LOL What kind of weird math are you using to make that conclusion? Did you actually watch the fight? Doesn't sound like you did.

Here, I'll show you, it's all posted, I'm using a hybrid form of quantum physics. See below. I meant to say he landed more than twice to the head in rounds 1 and 2, and five more head strikes in round 3. More strikes to the body in round 1 and 2.

-->http://blog.fightmetric.com/2012/02/condit-vs-diaz-official-ufc-statistics.html

Head and body strikes landed. (**not including leg kicks**)

Rd.1
Diaz 16 strikes (*more than double) landed to the head, 11 to the body
Condit 7 strikes landed to the head, 7 to the body

Rd.2
Diaz 19 strikes (*more than double) landed to the head 15 to the body
Condit 9 strikes landed to the head 9 to the body

Rd.3
Diaz 15 strikes (*five more) landed to the head 8 to the body
Condit 10 strikes landed to the head 8 to the body

WheelchairBandit
02-05-2012, 02:36 PM
Head and body strikes landed. (**not including leg kicks**)

(**because if I count them, it will blow my argument out of the water**)

Brian.

Zero G
02-05-2012, 02:45 PM
Here, I'll show you, it's all posted, I'm using a hybrid form of quantum physics. See below. I meant to say he landed more than twice to the head in rounds 1 and 2, and five more head strikes in round 3. More strikes to the body in round 1 and 2.

-->http://blog.fightmetric.com/2012/02/condit-vs-diaz-official-ufc-statistics.html

Head and body strikes landed. (**not including leg kicks**)

Rd.1
Diaz 16 strikes (*more than double) landed to the head, 11 to the body
Condit 7 strikes landed to the head, 7 to the body

Rd.2
Diaz 19 strikes (*more than double) landed to the head 15 to the body
Condit 9 strikes landed to the head 9 to the body

Rd.3
Diaz 15 strikes (*five more) landed to the head 8 to the body
Condit 10 strikes landed to the head 8 to the body

Way to cherry pick. :rotflmao Condit landed way more significant blows, and that was easy to see without having to refer to the stats. You're trying to score an MMA fight like it's a boxing match. If you want to do that, why not watch boxing instead?

ford
02-05-2012, 02:58 PM
So few people out there think Diaz won.. because he didn't... he doesn't have any game plan except straight forward... he certainly didn't think in the octagon last night... or try to change anything.

Condit had little trouble avoiding him and beat him.... it seems they knew Diaz would struggle if they didn't just let him hit Condit in the head...

in MMA you have to be able to adapt or force your opponent to fight the fight you want.. Diaz failed miserably at both and deserved the loss he received.

Condit didn't fight like a scared girl.. he out thought and out scored Diaz easily....easily.

Darby Crash
02-05-2012, 03:00 PM
Head and body strikes landed. (**not including leg kicks**)

This is my favorite analysis ever! I'm going to use it in so many different ways -- "I am NOT twenty minutes late to this meeting, if you don't count the twenty minutes at the beginning when I was not here."

scott
02-05-2012, 03:56 PM
So few people out there think Diaz won.. because he didn't... he doesn't have any game plan except straight forward... he certainly didn't think in the octagon last night... or try to change anything.

Condit had little trouble avoiding him and beat him.... it seems they knew Diaz would struggle if they didn't just let him hit Condit in the head...

in MMA you have to be able to adapt or force your opponent to fight the fight you want.. Diaz failed miserably at both and deserved the loss he received.

Condit didn't fight like a scared girl.. he out thought and out scored Diaz easily....easily.

This is how I saw it as did the 10 other people in the room with me. Condit fought a well planned game and won and he deserved it. Diaz is a total classless idiot. His speach at the end sealed the deal like a little baby that didnt get what he wanted. "Im taking my ball and going home!" What an asshole. He doesnt deserve to fight GSP. I dont think either one is in GSP's class anyway, hes going to destroy Condit.
You could see Diaz getting mad and frustrated when he couldnt get Condit to fight his fight, egging him on and trying to rattle him.....lol.
When all else fails resort to name calling.

Zero G
02-05-2012, 04:10 PM
For anyone who says Diaz isn't a thug, watch this video:

NSFW

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WheelchairBandit
02-05-2012, 08:36 PM
This is my favorite analysis ever! I'm going to use it in so many different ways -- "I am NOT twenty minutes late to this meeting, if you don't count the twenty minutes at the beginning when I was not here."

Oh man, that cracked me up. Bravo sir.

Brian.

twinrider1
02-09-2012, 10:18 PM
Diaz has picked new entrance music for his next fight.....probably some time in 2013.

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pcbb
02-10-2012, 01:26 AM
stick and move, won't win against GSP

dex17
02-10-2012, 05:50 AM
Condit has great kicks, but they didn't seem to be there last night.

I strongly believe Condit was using leg kicks to score points, he wasn't turning into them or rolling the hip over much. Diaz was walking right through those kicks, no marks and no swelling, not even checking them. Usually if they hurt, the fighter at least checks them by lifting that lead leg, and you would certainly see marks/swelling.

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We must have been watching different fights.

Jarrett
02-10-2012, 06:49 AM
Man, Diaz is his own worst enemy. Had the rematch and smoked it away. See ya next year Nickie.