Attractive Undercover Cop Poses As Student And Entraps Teens To "Sell" Her Marijuana

[Bloody Holly]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tony-newman/attractive-undercover-cop_b_1277330.html

TWO YEARS IN JAIL FOR SELLING A JOINT

[A-Bone]

That sounds nuts, although I wonder if that constitutes entrapment in a legal sense.

[Moe Zambeek]

Rediculuous

[coldfingaz]

:barf

[In Absentia]

http://ology.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/post-image/alg_johnny_depp_21_jumpstreet.jpg

[stratzrus]

Anyone who procures drugs for someone they barely know is an idiot.

I told my sons something my grandfather once told me and it stuck, "It's a fool who breaks the law but it's a damned fool who breaks the law for someone else."

[partytrain]

Anyone who procures drugs for someone they barely know is an idiot.

I told my sons something my grandfather once told me and it stuck, "It's a fool who breaks the law but it's a damned fool who breaks the law for someone else."

+10000

Kid wouldn't have gotten in trouble if he hadn't BROKEN THE LAW. Don't know why people are wasting their breaths complaining about the cops catching criminals.

[Bloody Holly]

Kid wouldn't have gotten in trouble if he hadn't BROKEN THE LAW. Don't know why people are wasting their breaths complaining about the cops catching criminals.
Would you feel the same way if you were sent to the slammer for 2 years for driving 65 in a 55? That's BREAKING THE LAW as well.

[A-Bone]

Well, entrapment is a very real concern with law enforcement. We do not want law enforcement inducing people to commit crimes.

Typically it is only entrapment if all of these are satisfied (per wikipedia, but it sounds pretty accurate as a summary):

1. The idea for committing the crime came from the government agents rather than the person accused of the crime.

2. Government agents persuaded the person into committing the crime. Providing the opportunity to commit a crime is not the same as persuading them to commit it.

3. The person was not ready and willing to commit the crime before interaction with the government agents.

[CowTipton]

"Hey Adam, grab me that apple."



Oh, you've heard this story before?

[jaycee]

So none of you guys might've made a bad decision after being mentally seduced by an older woman posing as a teenager?

Efff me.

[A-Bone]

So none of you guys might've made a bad decision after being mentally seduced by an older woman posing as a teenager?

Efff me.

I never had the chance, but I would have likely done exactly what he did (and I had nearly immediate access to just about any illicit drugs imaginable as a teenager).

[DetSlicker]

Contributing to the delinquency of a minor:

Any action by an adult that allows or encourages illegal behavior by a person under the age of 18, or that places children in situations that expose them to illegal behavior.

Kqewojda3M0

[jaycee]

I never had the chance, but I would have likely done exactly what he did (and I had nearly immediate access to just about any illicit drugs imaginable as a teenager).

I've made stupid decisions for girls i didn't even like...:rotflmao

[A-Bone]

I've made stupid decisions for girls i didn't even like...:rotflmao

Ain't it the truth.

[In Absentia]

Contributing to the delinquency of a minor:

Any action by an adult that allows or encourages illegal behavior by a person under the age of 18, or that places children in situations that expose them to illegal behavior.

Kqewojda3M0

Interesting.

[The Golden Boy]

Pics?

[bluesjuke]

Attractive Undercover Cop Poses As Student And Entraps Teens To "Sell" Her Marijuana

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/images/reviews/190/1328927170_5.jpg

[partytrain]

Would you feel the same way if you were sent to the slammer for 2 years for driving 65 in a 55? That's BREAKING THE LAW as well.

Not a jail-able offense, so dumb example. But I would be expected to pay a speeding ticket in your example, and you can be sure that there wouldn't be a TGP thread complaining about how unjust that is.

Are we willing to give kids a free pass every time they do something stupid for a cute girl?

"I know this kid killed a mother of 2 while street racing, but let's not throw the book at him, because he was trying to impress a girl." where does it stop?

Kid broke the law, he knew it was illegal, i've got no sympathy for him. Smarten up kid, it only gets tougher from here.

[taez555]

As a taxpayer I'm more than willing to pay to keep this kind of dope head scum behind bars for years!!! Damn the costs and lost tax revenue from legalization!!!

:bong

[coldfingaz]

I never had the chance, but I would have likely done exactly what he did (and I had nearly immediate access to just about any illicit drugs imaginable as a teenager).


:agree

It's not like he sold her a pound of pot that he had sitting around his dealer den or something.

This story is absolutely idiotic. The cops should go after bad guys... or kids that are known for being bigtime distributors. There's plenty of them in every district.

[OminousPoultry]

As a taxpayer I'm more than willing to pay to keep this kind of dope head scum behind bars for years!!! Damn the costs and lost tax revenue from legalization!!!

:bong

I don't think the cop should be sent to jail just for this........

[The Guy]

+10000

Kid wouldn't have gotten in trouble if he hadn't BROKEN THE LAW. Don't know why people are wasting their breaths complaining about the cops catching criminals.

cmon, really?

[liquidswords]

"One 18-year-old honor student named Justin fell in love with an attractive 25-year-old undercover cop after spending weeks sharing stories about their lives, texting and flirting with each other.

One day she asked Justin if he smoked pot. Even though he didn't smoke marijuana, the love-struck teen promised to help find some for her. Every couple of days she would text him asking if he had the marijuana. Finally, Justin was able to get it to her. She tried to give him $25 for the marijuana and he said he didn't want the money -- he got it for her as a present.
A short while later, the police did a big sweep and arrested 31 students -- including Justin."

I've been reading some of the cop threads but kept my mouth shut. However, framing an 18 year old by making him fall in love with you as a police officer is sick, twisted, perverted, revolting and I could go on. Nothing short of incredible, in the worst way possible.

[mrmatt1972]

Well, entrapment is a very real concern with law enforcement. We do not want law enforcement inducing people to commit crimes.

Typically it is only entrapment if all of these are satisfied (per wikipedia, but it sounds pretty accurate as a summary):

1. The idea for committing the crime came from the government agents rather than the person accused of the crime. check

2. Government agents persuaded the person into committing the crime. Providing the opportunity to commit a crime is not the same as persuading them to commit it. check

3. The person was not ready and willing to commit the crime before interaction with the government agents. check

The war on drugs has officially made law enforcement officials insane. How can this possibly have been justified as a desirable outcome of an undercover operation. It makes sense to go after established dealers, not honor students who did not use or deal before meeting the undercover cop! My country (Canada) is slipping down the slope of lost civil liberties and lost common sense that America is already half way down. I hope that we can all get some measure of balance and human rights back.

[paulrocker]

I never had the chance, but I would have likely done exactly what he did (and I had nearly immediate access to just about any illicit drugs imaginable as a teenager).


I remember a kid at our school that was just about as dumb as most other teenagers at the time. He decided to bring a bag of pot into school and told everyone and their mother. Of course school found out and he was expelled.

At the time all I could think was for about half a day he was the king of the school. Most often most normal teenagers do things for immediate reinforcement and have almost no understanding of long term consequences.

To see the police take advantage of this weakness is in my mind even poorer judgement than the kids. I would much rather these kids just get scared shiteless about what they have done, feel the immediate impact, and have them remember it for the rest of their short young adulthoods.

Would like to also point out that, although I never smoked pot growing up, a lot of the regulars turned out to be very well adjusted.

[stratzrus]

Typically it is only entrapment if all of these are satisfied (per wikipedia, but it sounds pretty accurate as a summary):

1. The idea for committing the crime came from the government agents rather than the person accused of the crime.

2. Government agents persuaded the person into committing the crime. Providing the opportunity to commit a crime is not the same as persuading them to commit it.

3. The person was not ready and willing to commit the crime before interaction with the government agents.Marion Barry immediately comes to mind. ;)

So none of you guys might've made a bad decision after being mentally seduced by an older woman posing as a teenager? Bad decision? Easily.

Procuring drugs? Not in this lifetime.

[blueserv]

Not a jail-able offense, so dumb example...

I respectfully disagree. I think it's a very relevant example. As a matter of fact, I think that speeding is much more dangerous to our society than marijuana is. And I don't smoke pot (or anything for that matter), so I have no dog in this fight.

However, I think DetSlicker is right on the mark with this...

"Contributing to the delinquency of a minor:
Any action by an adult that allows or encourages illegal behavior by a person under the age of 18, or that places children in situations that expose them to illegal behavior"

[Joseph Hanna]

As a young man I briefly studied law. I didn't take much out of those experiences except at the insistence of a law professor I read a biography of Fiorello La Guardia. La Guardia of course the mayor of New York City in the early to mid 1930's.

He was "colorful" to say the least in a time and place that might possibly have been the most trying moments of our country's history. He was at times a political bully. He was demanding of the people around him to an unbearable degree. But in redemption of those faults he was a leader of uncompromising fairness to his constitutes.

There's countless documentations on how he handle the poor and downtrodden who often, during the depression, were force to steal to feed their children.

In short he felt strongly that those who made laws, those who enforced laws, and those who judged accused law-breakers must have; beyond any training skills, beyond any professional skills, pragmatic and practical experiences in life such as to provide the ability to interpret the laws as they were meant to be applied. He recognized that zero tolerance policies could never fly in the face of everyday human interaction because of the obvious liquidity of those interactions. He felt that law-enforcers should be required to have about themselves enough life lessons in compassion and understanding so as to provide the knowledge to know when the law should be applied vigorously and when circumstances provided for an "on the spot" interpretation.

The original OP post appears to be a situation that Fiorello (had he had this young man in his mayoral court) would have not only dismissed the case but assuredly some New York Police members would have undoubtedly been out of a job as well.

In the end, if accurate, this is a case of a powerful law-enforcement agency dumbed down enough as to not be able to see the forest from the trees. The age old clique about "don't they have better things to do with their time" applies here as well as anywhere.

[rob2001]

"One 18-year-old honor student named Justin fell in love with an attractive 25-year-old undercover cop after spending weeks sharing stories about their lives, texting and flirting with each other.

One day she asked Justin if he smoked pot. Even though he didn't smoke marijuana, the love-struck teen promised to help find some for her. Every couple of days she would text him asking if he had the marijuana. Finally, Justin was able to get it to her. She tried to give him $25 for the marijuana and he said he didn't want the money -- he got it for her as a present.
A short while later, the police did a big sweep and arrested 31 students -- including Justin."




What a total waste of taxpayer money. I wonder how much this "sting" operation cost? Soon enough, weed will be legal and society will laugh at these feeble attempts to stomp it out. What a waste.

[big jilm]

This is completely unethical behavior by law enforcement. That kid's lawyer can't get him out of this? I work in a Jr. High, and our zero tolerance policies have been amended over the last couple years so that there is a loophole for administrators to get around them.

This kid doesn't deserve this treatment. Very sad.

[Redlined]

In the end, if accurate, this is a case of a powerful law-enforcement agency dumbed down enough as to not be able to see the forest from the trees. The age old clique about "don't they have better things to do with their time" applies here as well as anywhere.

I think thats the most important point, our law enforcement is a limited resource. I'm sure dozens of far more serious crimes took place in that community while they invested time on this low-level crime sting. Given the problem this country has with meth, pot should shouldn't be much of a focus.

[AD_]

"One 18-year-old honor student named Justin fell in love with an attractive 25-year-old undercover cop after spending weeks sharing stories about their lives, texting and flirting with each other.

One day she asked Justin if he smoked pot. Even though he didn't smoke marijuana, the love-struck teen promised to help find some for her. Every couple of days she would text him asking if he had the marijuana. Finally, Justin was able to get it to her. She tried to give him $25 for the marijuana and he said he didn't want the money -- he got it for her as a present.
A short while later, the police did a big sweep and arrested 31 students -- including Justin."

I've been reading some of the cop threads but kept my mouth shut. However, framing an 18 year old by making him fall in love with you as a police officer is sick, twisted, perverted, revolting and I could go on. Nothing short of incredible, in the worst way possible.
I agree 100%, this female cop is a shitbag. Cop or not, that was low.

[marko]

most males that age would have supplied the reefer even if the cop looked like this. teen guys as we all know have no thought of consquences at that age. it must be all is fair in catching a small user in FL while bigger fish dont fry.

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h97/mareke/untitled.jpg

[A-Bone]

most males that age would have supplied the reefer even if the cop looked like this. teen guys as we all know have no thought of consquences at that age. it must be all is fair in catching a small user in FL while bigger fish dont fry.

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h97/mareke/untitled.jpg

Officer Knowles?

[rob2001]

most males that age would have supplied the reefer even if the cop looked like this. teen guys as we all know have no thought of consquences at that age. it must be all is fair in catching a small user in FL while bigger fish dont fry.

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h97/mareke/untitled.jpg



LOL!!

Did you want me to put this J in the pocket next to your cuffs???

[tonejunky]

There must have been too many kids being quiet in class and getting along in the hallways.

:barf

[rob2001]

This is one of those stories that smokers AND non smokers should find ridiculous.

[Route234]

Anyone who procures drugs for someone they barely know is an idiot.

I told my sons something my grandfather once told me and it stuck, "It's a fool who breaks the law but it's a damned fool who breaks the law for someone else."

Sorry, but you very clearly do not understand teenage male hormones on any level and you have clearly forgotten what it is like to be a male teenager. I dont know any teenage boy who would not try to find a joint for a hot teenage girl who is throwing herself at him and begging him to do it.

If you are going to judge that kid and call him an idiot then Id question you far more than him. I simply cannot believe anyone could possibly side with the police and throw the "dont do the crime if you cant do the time" type nonsense here. This is entrapment of the worst kind. Your son or grandson or your neighbors son or yourself at that age would fall for this kind of thing 95% of the time or more. The woman who did this to this kid is a terrible human being who is worth shunning and judging far more than the kid in this story. Kind of hard for me to even fathom people just slamming the kid, even with the Internet judge and jury armchair QB nonsense....

[rob2001]

And figure in teen time, a few weeks is like a few years. He was probably thinking of a name for thier firstborn!

[EricPeterson]

What a complete waste of time and money, if this happened in my community I would be livid.

[halorealm7]

What a complete waste of time and money, if this happened in my community I would be livid.

You are not by yourself.....:mob

[andrekp]

This is exactly the sort of case that will either be dropped or settle with a downward charge. The kid, if he has a decent lawyer, would have little trouble convincing a panel of morons that he was coerced by the police into doing something he never otherwise did or would do. Plus, it makes the cops look like idiots.

This kid won't do time for this unless he gets Q for a judge.

[jett1963]

We put too many people in jail in this country. I am all for putting violent criminals behind bars but this story just illustrates the insanity of our legal system. The war on drugs has become a war against the citizens of our own country.

[coralreefer]

I'll need photos of this attractive undercover cop before I make my conclusion...

[andybaylor]

Any lawyer worth his or her salt should be able to beat this, no?

This smacks of entrapment.

TGP lawyers AND police officers...Your take?

FWIW-Let's try and keep this civil...(Yeah, I know..we're in TGP land...)

[Turbozag]

+10000

Kid wouldn't have gotten in trouble if he hadn't BROKEN THE LAW. Don't know why people are wasting their breaths complaining about the cops catching criminals.

Yea, escaped slaves were criminals too.
Doesn't make it right...

[andybaylor]

Sorry A-Bone! Missed this. Jeez, I'm 0/2 with your posts!!!

Well, entrapment is a very real concern with law enforcement. We do not want law enforcement inducing people to commit crimes.

Typically it is only entrapment if all of these are satisfied (per wikipedia, but it sounds pretty accurate as a summary):

1. The idea for committing the crime came from the government agents rather than the person accused of the crime.

2. Government agents persuaded the person into committing the crime. Providing the opportunity to commit a crime is not the same as persuading them to commit it.

3. The person was not ready and willing to commit the crime before interaction with the government agents.

[A-Bone]

Sorry A-Bone! Missed this. Jeez, I'm 0/2 with your posts!!!

No problem. I know how these things go with thread moving and all.

Entrapment is often a very tough defense to make, but from the little that I have read about this case, it seems like a poster child for a successful use of the defense.

[Chas]

This is a disgrace and a waste of our tax dollars at a time in this country's history where we are very close to stepping behind China as the economic power of the world. In fact it may have happened already.

Marijuana does not even fit the definition of a drug as it is impossible to OD from the over use of pot. "Flame on" people if you want, but you have been brainwashed by a 1950's FDA report, which has more holes in it than you local golf course.

It has been proven that Sativa and Indica or hybrids of these are just not toxic enough to kill you. I am 41 and have 4 kids so I do not smoke because I want to keep my kids but think about this for a moment. Sell pot at stores for people 21 and older and require a license like the real killer alcohol and tax pot it at 30%. Then see the return of the American farmer, States budgets in surplus positions and the violence at the border and in this country and Mexico slowly go the way of the Al Capone and organized crime during prohibition. There is a demand for pot in this country that will never go away. If you do not smoke it now very few will start as a result of it being legal. Lets face it, there are smokers and non-smokers. When my mother in law had cancer she could not eat at all and this so called "gateway drug" would have solved those issues. When she was vomiting 15 times a day this "drug" would have helped her. Oh yes let me mention they has no issue giving her 80 mg of Oxycontin for "mild pain", which made her even more nauseous, and which dwarfs just about any drug other than heroine for becoming addicted.

Sorry for the rant and the political speak but this lie has gone on for too long. One more question. How may cops, ICE officers,, Judges, jail employees would be out of work if we legalized just pot today? Now do you see the issue? The violence is due to pot being illegal just like prohibition. Lets let history teach us a lesson here please before we are part of the insolvent countries of Europe like Greece or Italy.

Again sorry and delete this if breaks any rules. If you are in disagreement with what I said PM me, lets talk like adults.

[Blindspot]

May your kids do what kids do. Especially you self-righteous parents.

[subtomic]

Not a jail-able offense, so dumb example.
Kid broke the law, he knew it was illegal, i've got no sympathy for him. Smarten up kid, it only gets tougher from here.

Seems to me the kid isn't the only one who needs to smarten up here. Must be nice living in your ivory tower where everything is black and white.....

[Calaban]

If you think this is wrong, you're right.

If you agree with the cops, you're wrong.

End of story.

Flame me if you want, but it is what it is.

[Polynitro]

pics or shes not attractive.

[MOJO]

I'm in the entrapment camp on this one

[semore butts]

They shouldn't have too! It's a disgrace that these people will have to hire a lawyer and spend their hard earned money to defend this kid.

The weed business has always been a "boon" for the cops and the lawyers. Nice, easy "soft target".

Cop takes the easy bust and fiddles away half his day processing the victimless crime.
I have pretty much grown anti-cop over the years. They don't prevent crime, they just report it.

How much tax payer time and money did they spend for these chicks to play high school whore to bust a few 18 year old stiff dicked boys?

What a bunch of losers.

[partytrain]

Seems to me the kid isn't the only one who needs to smarten up here. Must be nice living in your ivory tower where everything is black and white.....

It's awesome.

I've got a great view.

[Julia343]

This is really a good one. Build up trust and a relationship with a kid, then use that trust to entrap him and bust him and a bunch. And now you know why I don't trust cops.

[Peteyvee]

This is really a good one. Build up trust and a relationship with a kid, then use that trust to entrap him and bust him and a bunch. And now you know why I don't trust cops.

This isn't a new tactic, Julia. In 1975, they did the exact same thing to a friend of mines younger brother. I just don't see how they're still allowed to get away with it. BTW little brother graduated HS with honors was Phi Beta Kappa in college and is a math professor. Definitely a criminal type...

[Julia343]

This isn't a new tactic, Julia. In 1975, they did the exact same thing to a friend of mines younger brother. I just don't see how they're still allowed to get away with it. BTW little brother graduated HS with honors was Phi Beta Kappa in college and is a math professor. Definitely a criminal type...

Oh I know it has. I've seen it since the 1950s.

[Bloody Holly]

Not a jail-able offense, so dumb example. But I would be expected to pay a speeding ticket in your example, and you can be sure that there wouldn't be a TGP thread complaining about how unjust that is.

Are we willing to give kids a free pass every time they do something stupid for a cute girl?

"I know this kid killed a mother of 2 while street racing, but let's not throw the book at him, because he was trying to impress a girl." where does it stop?

Kid broke the law, he knew it was illegal, i've got no sympathy for him. Smarten up kid, it only gets tougher from here.
Sodomy is a jail-able offense.

[digthosetubes]

The entrapment game as sometimes played makes certain law enforcement practitioners creepy lowlifes.

[Shiny_Beast]

If that story is true the cop should be charged.

The war against drugs is created another class based society, it has to stop.

It'd be nice if the powers that be could see the difference beweteen a heroin pusher and a couple of kids smokng a joint

[Average Joe]

Seems like a whole lot of resources to throw at at a very small offense. Should he have been smarter? Absolutely, but putting the pressure on a teen to make him do something stupid when there are so many unsolicited crimes to work on out there is a very very odd use of law enforcement resources

[Ed Reed]

A stupid kid being manipulated into doing something wrong is wrong. Then giving him the max penalty is worse.

There are plenty of "real" criminals out there for law enforcement to deal with and they don't even have to entrap them. They do have to work to catch them as they are smarter than some dumb kid. Just busting a kid to prove to society they are "doing their job" has the reverse effect on me. It makes me think they are slacking off and just putting on a show.

[Shiny_Beast]

If we knew what was driving this, some of you probably wouldn't be so sympathetic to the police. It probably has to do with quotas and looking good on the annual report, stuff like that. The kid is a victom.

[chrisr777]

+10000

Kid wouldn't have gotten in trouble if he hadn't BROKEN THE LAW. Don't know why people are wasting their breaths complaining about the cops catching criminals.

This from a guy with the name partytrain.


The problem here is that he wasn't a criminal until the cop got ahold of him. He didn't smoke pot. It took him days to even find out where to get it. I don't smoke the stuff anymore and I'm not in high school, but even I could make a call and have some delivered within an hour.

[Hogan/Guitars]

All this proves is that otherwise good people or at least regular people in respected jobs will do anything and what they're told to keep those jobs.

[tnt365]

I'm working on a discourse analysis on the War on Drugs this term for a class and this article will be used. Thank you!

As an aside, IME Lots of cops are crooks in there own right, of the likes of mercenaries or hired-help, bullies on some sort of power trip at their best, thugs that recklessly instill terror at their worst. I've met very few cops that are "normal guys" that do their job humbly and generously with an agenda to genuinely help people regardless of quotas and economic pressures. Though, they do exist and give me some hope for law enforcement.

[Jiffy_Jeff]

+10000

Kid wouldn't have gotten in trouble if he hadn't BROKEN THE LAW. Don't know why people are wasting their breaths complaining about the cops catching criminals.


Yep, and it was close to a school.

[Mike Anderson]

Kid wouldn't have gotten in trouble if he hadn't BROKEN THE LAW. Don't know why people are wasting their breaths complaining about the cops catching criminals.

So it doesn't matter to you if the police are acting illegally, if the law is unjust, or if the punishment is way, way too harsh? As long as it's THE LAW, you must follow it without question or criticism?

There have been way too many societies -- including our own, not too long ago -- which had more stupid and unjust laws you could poke a stick at. Segregation, slavery, the list goes on and on. Hell, we used to execute people for theft.

Our society might still have many of those laws if people hadn't been willing to engage in civil disobedience in violation of THE LAW.

Sometimes -- not always, but sometimes -- THE LAW is an ASS (http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/the-law-is-an-ass.html). Our saving grace as human beings is that we have the flexibility and common sense to question it.

[liquidswords]

Kid broke the law, he knew it was illegal, i've got no sympathy for him. Smarten up kid, it only gets tougher from here.

I hope this is a troll post. Eric Peterson said this would make him livid if this happened in his community, I'm livid and I'm not even American. Any officer of the law who abuses his or her power in such a manner should be stripped of that power right away. And to those who would say "she was following orders", she didn't have to. If we collectively refused this type of behavior it would not exist.
This is a black and white case, but not as you see it. This kid was deceived, manipulated, and framed. He might also suffer some psychological trauma for trusting a girl and then having this be the consequence.

[lhallam]

In Richmond Va, there was an undercover cop in the 70's that went to parties, got stoned with the kids, did coke, and bought drugs from them for an entire year. At the end of the year he turned them all in.

BTW - Stopping his investigation at the small time dealer. In other words, he didn't even try to find out who the big suppliers were.

[paulrocker]

Sorry, but you very clearly do not understand teenage male hormones on any level and you have clearly forgotten what it is like to be a male teenager. I dont know any teenage boy who would not try to find a joint for a hot teenage girl who is throwing herself at him and begging him to do it.

If you are going to judge that kid and call him an idiot then Id question you far more than him. I simply cannot believe anyone could possibly side with the police and throw the "dont do the crime if you cant do the time" type nonsense here. This is entrapment of the worst kind. Your son or grandson or your neighbors son or yourself at that age would fall for this kind of thing 95% of the time or more. The woman who did this to this kid is a terrible human being who is worth shunning and judging far more than the kid in this story. Kind of hard for me to even fathom people just slamming the kid, even with the Internet judge and jury armchair QB nonsense....

:agree

[Teh RedWizard]

A stupid kid being manipulated into doing something wrong is wrong. Then giving him the max penalty is worse.

There are plenty of "real" criminals out there for law enforcement to deal with and they don't even have to entrap them. They do have to work to catch them as they are smarter than some dumb kid. Just busting a kid to prove to society they are "doing their job" has the reverse effect on me. It makes me think they are slacking off and just putting on a show.BINGO!!!

[Danktone]

Not a jail-able offense, so dumb example. But I would be expected to pay a speeding ticket in your example, and you can be sure that there wouldn't be a TGP thread complaining about how unjust that is.

Are we willing to give kids a free pass every time they do something stupid for a cute girl?

"I know this kid killed a mother of 2 while street racing, but let's not throw the book at him, because he was trying to impress a girl." where does it stop?

Kid broke the law, he knew it was illegal, i've got no sympathy for him. Smarten up kid, it only gets tougher from here.

Here is a link to a podcast that interviews both the kid and the cop. The cop sounds to me like a royal bitch. Also, she sounds a lot like pantytrain in this thread.

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/457/what-i-did-for-love?act=2

She wrecked his dream over a $25 bag of pot!

[Danktone]

partytrain*

[Teh RedWizard]

We put too many people in jail in this country. I am all for putting violent criminals behind bars but this story just illustrates the insanity of our legal system. The war on drugs has become a war against the citizens of our own country.Yes we do.I disagree with the assessment of 'insanity' on the part of cops,and the court system however.It is all a well thought out,BIG BU$INE$$!:mob

WAR ON DRUGS = JOBS-

[Rad Skronker]

this is real bullshit and the legal system should be embarrassed by these types of actions

they're just trying to make money for the private prison systems

"oh what's that?"
"We've got another inmate for 2 yrs. on a bogus pot charge?"
"Great way to fatten up the bottom line"

[Bloody Holly]

this is real bullshit and the legal system should be embarrassed by these types of actions

they're just trying to make money for the private prison systems

"oh what's that?"
"We've got another inmate for 2 yrs. on a bogus pot charge?"
"Great way to fatten up the bottom line"

Kids for Cash Scandal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal)

Two judges, President Judge Mark Ciavarella and Senior Judge Michael Conahan, were accused of accepting money from Robert Mericle, builder of two private, for-profit juvenile facilities, in return for contracting with the facilities and imposing harsh sentences on juveniles brought before their courts in order to ensure that the detention centers would be utilized.

[Rad Skronker]

Kids for Cash Scandal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal)

You know you just don't want to believe something like this can actually happen

and it's all in the name of money

the "justice system" used in one of the most unjust manners possible

perverse, sick, twisted...inhumane

[Bloody Holly]

perverse, sick, twisted...inhumane
"Following Ciavarella's conviction, he and his lawyer appeared on the steps of the courthouse to give an impromptu press conference. The press conference was interrupted by Sandy Fonzo, whose son Edward Kenzakoski committed suicide after Ciavarella gave him a jail sentence, despite Kenzakoski's first-time offender status."

[Sidney Vicious]

I am a criminal lawyer and it sounds like a clear case of entrapment to me - I would defend the kid pro bono.

[mc5nrg]

In further news, the sun rises every morning. Beautiful narcs new to a local bar are sop.

[Rad Skronker]

In further news, the sun rises every morning.

Yeah this kind of thing has gone on and will continue to happen but each incident needs to be publicized and made a big deal about because of the complete lack of morals on the part of the people involved

people need to know when the justice system is being abused by those charged with the task of providing that very same justice

[Lo Blues]

How low can you go? Do people really have nothing better to do? Going undercover at a friggin high school to bust a kid for weed. Genius police work. Get a life people. I mean it had to take some serious effort to go through all that. What a jerk.

[LarryN]

This makes me feel so patriotic. Good job, law enforcement!

[pb641]

As a taxpayer I'm more than willing to pay to keep this kind of dope head scum behind bars for years!!! Damn the costs and lost tax revenue from legalization!!!

:bong


Then Sir, with any respect that might be due, you simply do not have the slightest scintilla of understanding or intellectual appreciation for the social issues being discussed in this thread.

[pb641]

I am a criminal lawyer and it sounds like a clear case of entrapment to me - I would defend the kid pro bono.



Same. I have, and I will continue defending these cases.

BTW, when I was a prosecutor, the police knew better than to even try such tactics, which are perverse.

[gregc]

Hmmmmm. Huffington Post. I need more info. I just don't trust their reporting. Something may be missing.

[starfish]

The war on drugs is such an abysmal failure, now this...

[Bloody Holly]

Hmmmmm. Huffington Post. I need more info. I just don't trust their reporting. Something may be missing.

post 77 (http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showpost.php?p=12514239&postcount=77)

[James]

Kids for Cash Scandal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal)

:omg