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rgsss14
10-01-2005, 11:11 AM
I recently had the pleasure and privilege of visiting Vince's shop here in St. Louis, MO.

I know you guys probably know all about Vinetto guitars, but I wish that those of you who have never played one could just get the opportunity. These are truly amazing guitars - and I've played many, many other ones that just simply don't match up.

Vince's method is very meticulous and exacting, a fact clearly evidenced by the way his shop works.

I have two Legato TC's in the works - one is with the standard pickup configuration and switching (for the most part), and the other will have 3 P-90's. Both will have bird's eye maple necks (a personal preference) - I literally got weak in the knees when I first got a glimpse at the intensity of the figure on these necks.
I'll have to post pics when I get them.

Bottom line is that these guitars play like butter and sound like heaven (in my opinion with either the DiMarzios or the Lollars - just a subtle difference). Do yourself a favor and check out his website or just give him a call. I usually have a rule that I have to lay hands on a guitar before I buy it, but I tell you, this guitar would be one exception.

All of that and to top it off Vince is a great guy who is very accessible and really knows his stuff. (need I even say that?)

Take the plunge!:dude

fatback
10-01-2005, 02:16 PM
I am really digging my Legatto. Vince builds a mean axe. I love the variety of tones.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v484/fatback2/vinetto.jpg

JZWest
10-01-2005, 02:23 PM
Absolutely beautiful guitar. The pickguard perfectly flows with its surrounding lines. I bet it plays and sounds as good as it looks!

glynn
10-01-2005, 02:42 PM
I like the way it looks, and I bet it would be a great tone match to my PRSi.

I wanted somthing without a hard finnish tho, and thats not an option yet.

I hope to check one out at the Boggie store the next time im down south.

Vince
10-02-2005, 08:23 PM
...but we'll grill up some Italian sausage and crack open a few Boulevard Pale Ales for anybody that comes by the shop!

Hey rgsss, thanks for the nice words. We're definitely enjoying working on your stuff.

You folks may not hear this often enough, but us "Small Company Luthiers" would not be able to do what we do for very long without guys like you. iIt's not just your business, but your appreciation and understanding of what we do that makes it all happen. I can't speak for the other guys, but we've been really lucky to have a consistantly great group of customers.

Stop by anytime!

Aint Life Hell?
10-03-2005, 02:15 PM
Though I haven't been involved in this conversation, I would like to thank you for your post, Vince. It's so easy for people (especially those blessed with immense talent) to get caught up in their own hype & i'm pleased to find you're such a down to earth, good guy.
When I get the money pick up a hand made t-style fiddle, you'll be hearing from me...
Best,
m

Dave Orban
10-03-2005, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by fatback
I am really digging my Legatto. Vince builds a mean axe. I love the variety of tones.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v484/fatback2/vinetto.jpg That one is a knockout...! :dude

How does the Legato (at 25" scale) compare to the standard Fender scale (25.5"), tone-wise...?

Vince
10-03-2005, 05:04 PM
I love how the 25" scale softens the rough edges of the 25.5" scale, without loosing the snarl and snap when you need it. I'm not saying that 25.5's are always brittle or sizzly, and I've always loved that scale, but now I just really like to hear the 25 with minis, single coils or whatever. Without sounding like too much of a plug for my own stuff, the 25' scale gives plenty of the classic tonality of a 25.5/single coil sound when you want to dial it it, but there's also a wider range of full/smooth tonal spectrum you can tap into with the minis and the three-mode setup. The guys playing them consistently talk about how the guitar can cover all the bases on a gig all by itself, which is what I was really trying to acheive.

By the way, we've been shipping quite a few of the new Deuce's, so I thought I'd post a pic for all you two pickup guys. The second tone control is a pickup blender to go along with the three way, so you can dial in any pickup combination you want.

http://www.vinettoguitars.com/webhold/SapphDeuce.jpg

Eddie Bognovic
10-03-2005, 05:32 PM
I like the contoured edges and the way things are arranged on those guitars. They are looking great.

Dave Orban
10-03-2005, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by Vince
I love how the 25" scale softens the rough edges of the 25.5" scale, without loosing the snarl and snap when you need it. I'm not saying that 25.5's are always brittle or sizzly, and I've always loved that scale, but now I just really like to hear the 25 with minis, single coils or whatever. Without sounding like too much of a plug for my own stuff, the 25' scale gives plenty of the classic tonality of a 25.5/single coil sound when you want to dial it it, but there's also a wider range of full/smooth tonal spectrum you can tap into with the minis and the three-mode setup. The guys playing them consistently talk about how the guitar can cover all the bases on a gig all by itself, which is what I was really trying to acheive.

By the way, we've been shipping quite a few of the new Deuce's, so I thought I'd post a pic for all you two pickup guys. The second tone control is a pickup blender to go along with the three way, so you can dial in any pickup combination you want.

http://www.vinettoguitars.com/webhold/SapphDeuce.jpg

WOW! :dude :dude :dude

JZWest
10-03-2005, 06:12 PM
Yes, the larger radiused edge, in addition to other things, really adds to the classyness of this guitar.

Curious about the 25" scale lenght though. Slighlty less tension at normal pitch, or can you go to 11's for the same tension, but fatter sound?

Vince
10-03-2005, 08:57 PM
The shorter scale does reduce the string tension compared to a 25.5" scale, so 11's feel a little less intimidating for sure. There's already a pretty good "fat content" to these guitars, so I'd say the 11's sound a little bigger with a tad more "impact" than the slighltly mellow or buttery sound of the .10's we ship with.

Eddie Bognovic
10-03-2005, 09:03 PM
Originally posted by JZWest
Yes, the larger radiused edge, in addition to other things, really adds to the classyness of this guitar.

The edge kind of alludes to the Strat, and helps the Tele look less "planky" :)

KRosser
10-04-2005, 12:59 AM
I played one at the Mesa Boogie store in Hollywood recently and I thought it was a superb guitar in every respect. I'd definitely consider one in the future.

Jon C
10-04-2005, 06:27 AM
I love my Vinetto, it's a totally top notch guitar. Wish I had a photo here to post but don't (Two-tone sunburst w/ Tortoise guard, totally classy look IMO).

cheers,
Jon

rgsss14
10-05-2005, 01:43 PM
<i have played this particular <deuce at <fazio´s and it is amazing<1 <8if it is the same one <i´m thinking of<9
<great tone selection with the blend function and everything else meets the Vinetto standard as usual.
<anyone would be lucky to own this guitar.

edwarddavis
01-28-2008, 06:24 PM
I am really digging my Legatto. Vince builds a mean axe. I love the variety of tones.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v484/fatback2/vinetto.jpg
If I was goig to get one that would be it with a rosewood board , they look lie great guitars

martyncrew
01-28-2008, 06:41 PM
I had the opportunity to play some Vinettos, Suhrs and Groshes (Groshi?) at Gryphon in Palo Alto recently. All were very well made, played and sounded great but the design of the Vinettos is stunning from both a functional and aesthetic point of view. At the $2K price point, all of these are good guitars and "best" comes down to personal taste and judgement, but I certainly left thinking a Vinetto would be somewhere in my future.

rgsss14
01-30-2008, 11:25 AM
I'm fortunate enough to live here in St. Louis where the Vinetto magic happens. Although I've never been to the shop, I've played a couple on the wall of a local music merchant that I frequent. I've been trying to decide between the Legato and Deuce for quite some time now. Both are excellent guitars, but how to decide??? The input here has been very valuable. Thanks to all.

Give Vince a call and ask for an invite to the shop. He is a great guy and the Legato/Deuce series are amazing, and I always like to put the word back out with them given all of the attention the Artifacts are getting these days.

The Legato is one of the most tonally versatile guitars out there. The Deuce has the same feel albeit one can coax some more "in between" tones from it... you really must try both out to decide....I personally feel the Legato is more versatile.

jetlag
01-30-2008, 12:17 PM
I agree completely with Vince on the coolness of a 25" scale neck. While I don't own any of his guitars (yet), I really enjoy playing vintage harmony stratotones and H62s, both of which have 25" scale necks. It's a real sweet spot in my opinion - you still get growl and definition on the low wound strings, but the high unwounds are relaxed just enough to voice fat. Overally, the strings still retain just enough snap. Very cool and "best of both worlds" in a way.

Vince
01-30-2008, 10:14 PM
The Artifacts have been eating the lion's share of our time since we intro'd them, but we're seeing more and more buzz on the Legatos and Deuces again lately. I'm thinking about combining both concepts and seeing what happens.

Could be fun.

Droptop
01-30-2008, 10:16 PM
The Artifacts have been eating the lion's share of our time since we intro'd them, but we're seeing more and more buzz on the Legatos and Deuces again lately. I'm thinking about combining both concepts and seeing what happens.

Could be fun.

Relicing Legatos?

B Vance
01-31-2008, 04:34 AM
The Artifacts have been eating the lion's share of our time since we intro'd them, but we're seeing more and more buzz on the Legatos and Deuces again lately. I'm thinking about combining both concepts and seeing what happens.

Could be fun.

If you decide to go that route, would it be possible to get one with a vintage style bridde and bridge plate?

Vince
02-01-2008, 09:10 AM
If you decide to go that route, would it be possible to get one with a vintage style bridde and bridge plate?

I'm going to make an announcement about this soon.... stay tuned.

B Vance
02-01-2008, 02:19 PM
I'm going to make an announcement about this soon.... stay tuned.

Thanks Vince.

Droptop
02-01-2008, 03:21 PM
I'm visiting my brother here in Colorado and was hoping to try one out at Guitars Etc, but they were sold out. Any other Legatos out there?

Mike Dresch
02-02-2008, 07:55 AM
I tried a couple Vinettos out at the Mesa Boogie Store in Hollywood. I thought they were very well made and had much better action than what I usually see from a lot of factory set ups of other guitar makes. I wasn't a big fan of the enormous necks on the two they had in stock, but I'm sure they were ordered that way so it's probably not a stock carve. Some people love the big necks, I like a medium/large neck but not ginormous :)

localplayer
02-03-2008, 05:39 PM
i thought there was going to be an announcement last month about a new product? did i miss it?

jmguitars
02-06-2008, 12:39 AM
Hey Vince,

When are you planning a delivery to The Music Zoo ... I keep bugging those poor guys there to stick in my fiesta red strat order during your first batch order to them.

Mark

Vinetto
02-08-2008, 12:44 PM
i thought there was going to be an announcement last month about a new product? did i miss it?

Well... I thought we'd be ready, but I didn't want to spill the beans without the goods, and we're a little behind schedule on the project, so I'd rather wait so we can make a proper announcement complete with eye candy!

Hey Vince,

When are you planning a delivery to The Music Zoo ... I keep bugging those poor guys there to stick in my fiesta red strat order during your first batch order to them.

Mark

Hi Mark,
Tommy's always about shakin' it up a little! His stuff is taking a little longer because they're more along the lines of one-offs. If you've got a straight ahead order you want to put in, it will move a little faster.

Dave Orban
02-08-2008, 12:50 PM
A Legartifact...?!? :confused:

Vinetto
02-08-2008, 12:54 PM
:D

I don't know, but that's a pretty funny name anyway!

Dave Orban
02-08-2008, 12:59 PM
It was that or Artato.

rgsss14
02-08-2008, 01:01 PM
Legatolde.....

Dave Orban
02-08-2008, 01:03 PM
Artifato.


"An Artifato was issued today stating that Little Steven must wear a head scarf in public."

Vinetto
02-08-2008, 04:08 PM
Maybe... but maybe not.

5150gtrmonkey
02-08-2008, 04:47 PM
I saw an artifact sc at my friend's shop a while back and thought it was a great guitar. But being that I've never really been into the tele style of guitar, didn't really think about getting one. Then I was in my friend's shop again yesterday and saw a dc model. Whoa.

I have been a Grosh RC lover for a very long time. Picked up another one off this site not too long ago. I tried all the other brands, including Suhr, Anderson, Tyler and Fender Custom Shop before I made the dive into my first Grosh. Don't get me wrong, those other brands are all awesome and I think everyone agrees that you go with what you like because the build quality are all excellent. But the Grosh RC just connected with me the first time I picked it up and I haven't really fallen for any other strat style ever since then. Until yesterday.

When I picked up that dc 60 sb model I immediately felt the same way I did when I first played a Grosh RC. I knew I would have to get one in the near future. It's contours were comfortable, the fretwork flawless and the way it sounded acoustically... resonant, fat, clear and loud! This feeling was amplified by the fact that I had just been fooling around with a couple used Fender Custom Shops and I still couldn't get into those.

I still love my Grosh RC, but all I know is I'm going to be saving up very soon for a dc 60 sb!

arfalax
02-08-2008, 06:48 PM
Exactly the way I had been feeling about the higher end strats I had gone through lately until I received this DC57 Artifact Wednesday. It just feels so right. I know I just posted this picture on the Official Vinetto thread but I just can't help myself.

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z77/Guitarfalax/Vinetto/101_0087.jpg

ducmike
02-08-2008, 07:03 PM
I just sold my Legato, a big mistake at first blush. In reflection, it had the best feeling neck I have played to date. At first I thought it was just like my Koll. But, it did have a different contour to the C shape, and with the 7.25-9.5 radius it turned out to be my favorite neck. If the Vinetto had a trem, something else would have gone. I almost didn't buy it because of the hardtail, and that ended up being my main issue with it. I just had force my self to take it instead one of the trem equiped guitars, even though I loved the tone and feel of the guitar.

When I get a little cash saved, I will have another Vinetto. My dream is an NOS SC60 with the same neck as Legato #53 and maybe a bucker in the bridge. Or a Legato with a trem and a something like a TV Jones in the bridge.