College football player kicked my door in last night

[In Absentia]

Actually, one of several. They confused my apartment for some girls they were pissed at. They figured out their mistake, and then busted out this girl's window and tried to break into her house. The landlord hasn't had my door fixed yet, so it appears I am going to have a super late night guarding the door.

Cops were here last night and called the coach, but I haven't heard anything in the news about it.

I ****ed up, though, by pushing to have this guy removed from the team with his coaches via social media. Honestly, I am pretty worried that those guys might come out and try something. I don't have a gun nor the money for it, or I might not be so nervous. I am trying to right the ship by telling the coach and players I will drop it if I don't have to deal with them anymore.

Talk me out of my bad nerves. Please. I have bad anxiety problems at the best of times.

[lgehrig4]

You did the right thing. They kicked your door to your home in and to me that is a serious offense and there should be some serious consequences for them. A lot of people on this forum seem to choose the route that is safest and call it the right choice to nurture their egos. You did the right thing....I think. Not sure exactly what you mean by social media. You should just go to the school personally. You can be scared, but if you believe that they should be kicked off the team, stick with your plan. Remember, that they were also doing this to a female student. They don't deserve to be in college.

[halcyon85]

Those boneheads would be in even deeper shit if they did something else to you at this point. It will be okay! Take a deep breath. I know that's some crappy advice but a good sigh here and there does help, if only for a little bit, in my experience. Try not to overthink it too much. That's what really gets you with anxiety, the overthinking. Go do something that will take your mind off of it. Get out the guitar and have a therapy session. :console

Edit: And if you don't see any results from your interactions with their handlers, I'd go further. Once you get your door fixed. I think some of the bigger schools would be reluctant to enforce any sort of punishment at all. It gives some players the idea they can get away with anything. This kind of behavior is ridiculous for people their age. Hopefully the coaches will make an example of them. If not, go above the coaches' heads, and if that doesn't work... to the press.

[cfo_deebiedaddy]

I would have thought a call to NCAA might be worthwhile...

[Jiffy_Jeff]

They better be happy they didn't kick in some one elses door.....like mine.
That's home invasion. They would have been shot!

Hope that girl they were after gets a restraining order against them. They must be bad asses going after a girl.

[tnvol]

I would have thought a call to NCAA might be worthwhile...

+1. I would call right away.

[In Absentia]

Y'know what guys? You are all exactly right. The funny thing is: I have no clue why I am so worried about it. These guys are running back, 5'10 200lbs. I'm 6'4" 230 with a hell of a reach. But, I am also not stupid enough to fight them. The authorities, the coaches, or the press will handle this. I will keep you updated.

BTW, I know it is home invasion. Honestly, I need a gun in the house (don't worry; been around them SAFELY my whole life. Had to take safety courses when I was real young because I have a family full of hunters).

[Hogan/Guitars]

They didn't take anything and moved on,if they replace the door I'd let it go.If they dented my car or stole a guitar it'd be a different story. The way people are now and these guys are unstable from the get go. Looking over your shoulder and then let your guard down,a couple years pass and then late at night walking home and WHAM!.

The girl can fight her own battles with her family and support network and college or whatever.

[In Absentia]

They didn't take anything and moved on,if they replace the door I'd let it go.If they dented my car or stole a guitar it'd be a different story. The way people are now and these guys are unstable from the get go. Looking over your shoulder and then let your guard down,a couple years pass and then late at night walking home and WHAM!.

The girl can fight her own battles with her family and support network and college or whatever.

The girl is pressing charges, but it has nothing to do with me. She is just a neighbor that seems to attract this type of attention. These guys made a simple mistake, but it does make me worry that they are stupid enough to hold a grudge. One of the guys was kicked out of Florida for grades, the other has already been arrested and also tried to run over someone in the parking lot.

I am moving to the UK in a few months, as soon as I get the cash.

[tjs]

I wouldn't trust the coaches to do anything, or even the police for that matter. Take it to the press and the publicity will force the coaches and/or police to do something about it.

[DICKIE C]

They didn't take anything and moved on,if they replace the door I'd let it go.If they dented my car or stole a guitar it'd be a different story. The way people are now and these guys are unstable from the get go. Looking over your shoulder and then let your guard down,a couple years pass and then late at night walking home and WHAM!.

The girl can fight her own battles with her family and support network and college or whatever.

Just how would it be different? If they are unstable they could come after you even if they stole a guitar or dented your car.

This is the wrong approach, imo. Bad behavior is bad behavior and it should not be tolerated. I'm betting the whole reason why they continue with bad behavior is because too many folks 'let it go' and do nothing. These clowns broke the law and they should suffer the consequences.

OP, don't let fear control you. We would all be worried about about the same things if we were in your shoes, but true courage is acting even when you're afraid.

Sorry for the 'lecturing' vibe. :D

[tele_phil]

Y'know what guys? You are all exactly right. The funny thing is: I have no clue why I am so worried about it. These guys are running back, 5'10 200lbs. I'm 6'4" 230 with a hell of a reach. But, I am also not stupid enough to fight them. The authorities, the coaches, or the press will handle this. I will keep you updated.

BTW, I know it is home invasion. Honestly, I need a gun in the house (don't worry; been around them SAFELY my whole life. Had to take safety courses when I was real young because I have a family full of hunters).

I wouldn't worry too much. Hopefully the cops and the college will take care of the issues. It's no big deal if you don't have a gun. A fire extinguisher is much better in close quarters anyway. A good spray to the face followed by a few good jabs and smacks can do the trick nicely.

[HurricaneJesus]

It depends:
If they play for UF, let it go.
If they play for Georgia, Tennessee, or South Carolina do everything you can to have them expelled.

[Tonekat]

Breaking into a woman's house was their intent? Arrest time. Jail time. Shove the football up the punk's ass time.

[ross]

Did they yell "We are Marshall" as your door came down? Seriously, the University needs to bring these guys in line or someone will get hurt next time.

[AudioWonderland]

I would have thought a call to NCAA might be worthwhile...

No, a call to their rivals coaching staff....

[roknfnrol]

Maybe call the local news channels. That'll get them in line quick.

[19181911]

If he is over 18, I would go to the DA and demand the the law be upheld.

[Aaron Smith]

Breaking into a woman's house was their intent? Arrest time. Jail time. Shove the football up the punk's ass time.

Agree.

[jumpnblues]

That's breaking and entering where I live and it's a felony. Very serious prison time involved. I wouldn't worry much about retaliation. If it's as serious a crime there as it is here I'm betting the players will be very good little boys from here on. I'm sure the school administration and coaching staff would come down pretty hard regarding that. If due warning hasn't been given (and I'll bet it has), then I would be extremely pissed and much more aggressive about getting a response from the school.


Tom

[Polynitro]

+1 you should murder those teenagers!

[AL30]

I really like playing in Huntington. There are some great bands and great people down there (just saw AC30 in Morgantown a few weeks ago). But it's got a rough and tough feel to it. Especially around the stadium area. Sorry you had to go through that. I hope it gets cleared up asap.

AL

[esoteric pete]

wtf!? what were they planning on doing to the girl?

seems like some unstable people to me..were they going to rape and beat her? kidnap her??? jesus...

they need to have charges brought on them, fo sure.

[offbeat]

I'll be curious to see if this is reported in the media. Post a link, please, if it makes the news. If the police were called, it should at least be in the police log section of the local paper.

[jumpnblues]

Seriously, it needs to be impressed on those guys that their stupidity could have easily had a tragic outcome had you been armed. And many homes these days are very well protected. A young, promising life could have been needlessly snuffed out over a really dumb thought. Perhaps a tour of the morgue would be in order.


Tom

[bsuite]

+1 you should murder those teenagers!

I see what you did there. :nono

[clarkydaz]

you have no business being terrified and feeling like a prisoner in your own home for no reason. You have done nothing wrong. by the sounds of it they are a law unto themselves, and other folk in your neighbourhood probably feel the same as you, hoping they will be finally reigned in

[Bozak]

They belong in jail plain and simple, and real time too, like a year minimum IMO.

People like that have no right to be walking the streets, ticking time bombs, what sickens me is watching a show like "Cops" where people that obviously have mental/drug problems are cuffed, or prostitutes doing nothing but making people feel good, all while violent criminals like the OP people walk free, or are even celebrated! the real crime is lack of proper law enforcement.

[tone4days]

wow - sorry to read this - i'd have been scared witless if that was me

pretty unnerving to think about what they intended to do if they had found the right apt. and the girl was home

best of luck getting it resolved -

t4d

[spamsponge]

Just be glad Rich Rodriguez isn't the coach involved.

[In Absentia]

Did they yell "We are Marshall" as your door came down? Seriously, the University needs to bring these guys in line or someone will get hurt next time.

Brilliant, lol!

[In Absentia]

The running back coach says (via Twitter): @comadivine117 before you through (sic) them under the bus get your facts right.

My response: @coach_seider_MU @comadivine117 i did when they kicked my door in first. Those girls are my neighbors. I watched the whole thing.

@coach_seider_MU Did I mention that I have a 1 year old boy, and a pregnant wife in the apt. when I said they kicked it in? Was a Herd fan..

[tjs]

The running back coach says (via Twitter): @comadivine117 before you through (sic) them under the bus get your facts right.

My response: @coach_seider_MU @comadivine117 i did when they kicked my door in first. Those girls are my neighbors. I watched the whole thing.

@coach_seider_MU Did I mention that I have a 1 year old boy, and a pregnant wife in the apt. when I said they kicked it in? Was a Herd fan..

Like I said, the coaches aren't going to do anything, and the police aren't likely to do anything either, unless the press gets wind of it and makes the incident public. And even if you're not worried about yourself, just think of what could happen to the next poor person these thugs decide to go after. They need to be locked up like the animals they are.

[Mike Anderson]

Need more details on these players.

Are they first string? How many rushing yards did they put up last season? Are they good blockers too?

I predict the kids will go unpunished. There's a reason why athletes like that act like they do. Because they've been getting away with shit their whole lives.

[tjs]

Looks like a wonderful bunch of people. Just look at this article from 2011:

http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/6/27/2247431/tron-martinez-arrested-marshall-football

"Marshall University running back Tron Martinez was arrested early Friday evening on disorderly conduct and obstruction charges, the Huntington (WV) Herald-Dispatch reports. Details of the incident are not available as of 7:30 PM Eastern Monday evening, and no one from Marshall appears to have released a statement.

This isn't the first time Martinez has found himself on the wrong side of the law.

On April 17, 2009, Martinez was arrested and charged with 11 felonies, including gang participation, and a pair of misdemeanors in his hometown. At the time, Martinez had a football scholarship to Old Dominion University, which was quickly taken away.

He spent two and a half months in jail and nearly nine months on home confinement. Eventually, all charges were dropped minus a misdemeanor."


So a gangbanger commits 11 felonies, and gets the charges dropped to a misdemeanor because he's a football player. Which is why this incident needs to go public, because as I've said nothing is going to happen to them otherwise. The coaches and the cops will just sweep it under the rug.

[cfo_deebiedaddy]

Again:

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/ncaa/home/contact+the+ncaa

[Peteyvee]

What I find strange is that there's no mention of this in any of the Huntington, WV newspapers, police blotters or anything other news source in WV that I can find. If this happened in LA (for example, USC* Football players arrested for home invasion), it would be all over the news...just sayin'

*Couldn't resist, I'm a Bruin...

[tjs]

Oh, and in fairness to the University of Florida, I'd like to point out that Travon Van never set foot in Gainesville. He signed a letter of intent but didn't qualify academically, so he was released from his LOI and ended up going to Marshall instead. So he wasn't kicked out of Florida; they never let him in in the first place.

[In Absentia]

Need more details on these players.

Are they first string? How many rushing yards did they put up last season? Are they good blockers too?

I predict the kids will go unpunished. There's a reason why athletes like that act like they do. Because they've been getting away with shit their whole lives.

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No. 7 and 2

My wife is a university employee, so we are going to try the office of the president, as well.

[Boris Bubbanov]

I would have thought a call to NCAA might be worthwhile...

I love this idea.

I think the coaches and the school will be worthless in this situation. They'll be under immense pressure to bury this event.

Even the local police will not want to do anything to interfere with the local sports program...........that's a sacred thing.

No, only the NCAA is in the kind of mindset to actually maybe look after you. Anxiety I find is in the not knowing. Let's find out right away if you have any protection, and if you don't, you need to know it.

[tjs]

No. 7 and 2

My wife is a university employee, so we are going to try the office of the president, as well.

I wouldn't do that if I were you. The president will just try to silence you to protect the football players, and it may end up costing your wife her job.

[semi-hollowbody]

Considering we have College Football Coaches that turn the other cheek and let pedophilia and rape go on for decades, I would venture to say the coaches wont do shit.

I would NOT want to go up against a college football team, unless I want to be kicked out of school or worse...

I see this as a NO win situation...get them to fix your door, move to different housing, and drop it...

[tjs]

I love this idea.

I think the coaches and the school will be worthless in this situation. They'll be under immense pressure to bury this event.

Even the local police will not want to do anything to interfere with the local sports program...........that's a sacred thing.

No, only the NCAA is in the kind of mindset to actually maybe look after you. Anxiety I find is in the not knowing. Let's find out right away if you have any protection, and if you don't, you need to know it.

The NCAA isn't going to do anything either. Again, the only way anything will be done about this is if it gets to the media.

[Blanket Jackson]

Not. Cool.
I don't know if I would wait for coach to take disciplinary action. I would go right to the university administration and file a formal complaint. Let them be the bad guy.
Oh, and social media? I might nix that. That is passive, and will not remain silo'd for long. You want to let the big bosses take action on your behalf.

Just my $1.05

[FiestaRed]

Call ESPN

[cfo_deebiedaddy]

I wouldn't do that if I were you. The president will just try to silence you to protect the football players, and it may end up costing your wife her job.

I wonder if there's some kind of whistleblower protection.

[digiTED]

I think exploring the 'straight to media' route alongside getting a whistleblower attorney would be a good course of action.

Personally, I would feel terrible if I quieted down and moved away. I'd feel like a p*ssy and a bad example for my children. I do completely understand the position from a pragmatic perspective and would not fault someone for going that route. It's just not how my brain and heart work.

[EightySix]

Stop tweeting, replace door, contact local news, collect $, move to UK.

[Blackmoreguitar]

This thread has really annoyed me; the thought, (that has been widely suggested in many posts), that these a**holes can really get away with this kind of nonsense make my blood boil.

Is college football really that big a deal that the authorities would try to bury this? Absolutely stinks.

My sympathies to the OP it must have been terrifying.

[tjs]

Is college football really that big a deal that the authorities would try to bury this? Absolutely stinks.

Sadly, it is. It's amazing the crap these thugs can get away with.

[overunderdrive]

see 'Penn State' for an example of how college sports programs handle indiscretions by their own.

contact college president's office, police, NCAA, local media, and anyone else you can think of.

kicking in a door is not an innocent teenage prank. it's also very unlikely that this is their first transgression.

they deserve whatever they've got coming.

[hclapp219]

Let us know if there is anyone (president, media, coaches, NCAA, etc...) you want us to email about this and raise a stink!

[FiestaRed]

Should we be calling the local media outlets in your area asking them why no news story has been reported on this yet?

[In Absentia]

Damn, you guys are ruthless, lol. I love the ideas. The landlord is filing charges, and has a friend that is the judge handling this. Team meeting at 6am tomorrow. Any player that is not there is gone automatically. I will say one thing about the head football coach. He has a reputation for cleaning house. Last year, a player was accused, falsely I might add, and Doc kicked 'em out. He let him back in after the charges were dropped. The problem is that Marshall is knwon for taking hard cases (i.e. Ahmad Bradshaw and Randy Moss), so it is likely that they are recruiting from prisons.

[tjs]

The problem is that Marshall is knwon for taking hard cases (i.e. Ahmad Bradshaw and Randy Moss), so it is likely that they are recruiting from prisons.

Considering Martinez is a known gangbanger with 11 felonies to his "credit", it would not surprise me.

[In Absentia]

Please leave the Penn St. Out of this. It isn't remotely relevant.

[In Absentia]

This thread has really annoyed me; the thought, (that has been widely suggested in many posts), that these a**holes can really get away with this kind of nonsense make my blood boil.

Is college football really that big a deal that the authorities would try to bury this? Absolutely stinks.

My sympathies to the OP it must have been terrifying.

It would have been terrifying if it hasn't happened around these parts a lot. I am headed your way, where all I have to worry about are drive-by arguments. ;) (Family Guy reference).

[In Absentia]

Stop tweeting, replace door, contact local news, collect $, move to UK.

Yeah, this is what I am doing. The local media has been contacted. I emailed and called reporters, but it still hasn't hit the local paper.

[fwguitar]

Please leave the Penn St. Out of this. It isn't remotely relevant.

You're right, it has nothing to do with college football personnel thinking they are above the law...:rolleyes:

[In Absentia]

I wouldn't do that if I were you. The president will just try to silence you to protect the football players, and it may end up costing your wife her job.

God, I think my wife would love that, lol. After this baby is born, we are gone.

[overunderdrive]

Please leave the Penn St. Out of this. It isn't remotely relevant.

the offense isn't relevant, but the tweet you posted where the coach responds by immediately circling the wagons is eerily reminiscent of the way Penn St. sought to protect their own--at the expense of truth, justice, and innocent lives.

in any case, the analogy wasn't meant to offend. I sincerely hope this turns out OK for you and your family.

[smcgov]

Used to have 5 U of P football players renting the house next door....unbelievable tools. Good luck, hope those morons get kicked out of school....

[coldfingaz]

the tweet you posted where the coach responds by immediately circling the wagons is eerily reminiscent of the way Penn St. sought to protect their own


I completely agree. I understand the OP's objection to any comparison, but there is an awfully consistent culture of entitlement, acting above the law & being beyond reproach amongst the coaching staffs at many upper tier NCAA athletic programs. The bigger the revenue generator &/or reliance economically by the local community (or state), the more empowered/encouraged these programs are to cover up anything.

I'm still convinced Arkansas never would have fired Petrino if they didn't have to.

[In Absentia]

the offense isn't relevant, but the tweet you posted where the coach responds by immediately circling the wagons is eerily reminiscent of the way Penn St. sought to protect their own--at the expense of truth, justice, and innocent lives.

in any case, the analogy wasn't meant to offend. I sincerely hope this turns out OK for you and your family.

Thanks man. No offense taken. The coach was ready to circle the wagons, but methinks his boss, the head coach, won't be so lenient.

[In Absentia]

I completely agree. I understand the OP's objection to any comparison, but there is an awfully consistent culture of entitlement, acting above the law & being beyond reproach amongst the coaching staffs at many upper tier NCAA athletic programs. The bigger the revenue generator &/or reliance economically by the local community (or state), the more empowered/encouraged these programs are to cover up anything.

I'm still convinced Arkansas never would have fired Petrino if they didn't have to.

This town is basically Marshall. The movie got that part right. I love Marshall football, but this has really left a sour taste in my mouth.

[overunderdrive]

... methinks his boss, the head coach, won't be so lenient.

that all depends on how important these particular players are to the team's ability to win football games.

if they are integral to the team's success, you might--sadly--find yourself up against a very formidable brick wall.

ah, what a clean and refreshing combination...college sports + big money.

[stevieboy]

I would stop posting anything on twitter or any other social media. One thing is for sure,--no one ever won an argument on the internet!

Other than that, pursue it as far as you think you should. Personally, considering the damage done (which was to someone else's door) and the facts that the police have been informed, the landlord is pressing charges, the girl is pressing charges, the head coach is pursuing it, I might decide that I've done my part in this particular case. We do have a responsibility to not just look the other way, but you haven't. Beyond that, what do you hope to accomplish that further action on your part will help with?

[zaradean]

You'll be just fine.I Thinkhttp://0rz.tw/CqAGq

[In Absentia]

I would stop posting anything on twitter or any other social media. One thing is for sure,--no one ever won an argument on the internet!

Other than that, pursue it as far as you think you should. Personally, considering the damage done (which was to someone else's door) and the facts that the police have been informed, the landlord is pressing charges, the girl is pressing charges, the head coach is pursuing it, I might decide that I've done my part in this particular case. We do have a responsibility to not just look the other way, but you haven't. Beyond that, what do you hope to accomplish that further action on your part will help with?

Yeah, i just wrote that small bit on twitter, and knew immediately that I shouldn't have. As the situation stands, i am playing the waiting game.

[fredgarvin]

Was he the kicker?

[Tele Wacker]

Contact the local media and they will be right on the story.

[In Absentia]

Contact the local media and they will be right on the story.

I have a contact right now. Waiting to find out what happens tomorrow at the team meeting.

[In Absentia]

Was he the kicker?

If it were our kicker, he would have missed wide-right.

[screamtone]

I really like playing in Huntington. There are some great bands and great people down there (just saw AC30 in Morgantown a few weeks ago). But it's got a rough and tough feel to it. Especially around the stadium area.



I used to play a club by the stadium (it was called the Stoned Monkey at the time), and I would tend to agree.

[nchesher]

I work in media. The longer you wait the colder the story will get. Call before 10am and will be on TV that day.

[In Absentia]

I used to play a club by the stadium (it was called the Stoned Monkey at the time), and I would tend to agree.

Yeah, it has been gone for a few years. Only dance clubs left. Such a shame. I miss Gyrationz the most.

[JB]

Doesn't over half of America have a gun in their homes these days? Seems like an incredibly stupid idea to kick someone's door in when there's a high possibility that they'll be staring at a loaded gun on the other side of that door.
Glad this whole entitled spoiled athlete thing that goes on in the states doesn't happen at any universities I know of up here.

[offbeat]

OP..... would you be able to find out what the outcome of the 6am meeting is?
I'm sure curious...

:)

[coldfingaz]

Glad this whole entitled spoiled athlete thing that goes on in the states doesn't happen at any universities I know of up here.

Yeah, it's part of the culture here especially with the higher level programs. Frankly, it all starts & ends with money.

[In Absentia]

OP..... would you be able to find out what the outcome of the 6am meeting is?
I'm sure curious...

:)

Yeah, that is what I am waiting on. My landlord said the coach is supposed to contact him this morning. Apparently, this is felony destruction of property. Of course, if it were you or me, we would already be in jail. The thing that kills me is that these guys and one coach are acting like I am out to destroy their reputation, like they didn't do anything wrong in the first place.

[Stike]

If you want this case to get attention contact that harpy Nancy Grace, she'll NEVER shut up about it.

[AL30]

If you know their names you may be able to find out if they've been arrested by checking the http://wvjails.info/ then just find your areas jail and start surfing mugshots.

I think Huntington is Western Regional jail correct?

http://westernregionaljail.info/

This site is a good time killer on Sunday mornings.

AL

[In Absentia]

If you know their names you may be able to find out if they've been arrested by checking the http://wvjails.info/ then just find your areas jail and start surfing mugshots.

I think Huntington is Western Regional jail correct?

http://westernregionaljail.info/

This site is a good time killer on Sunday mornings.

AL

Lol, yeah my wife has just discovered that site. She has been looking, but no arrests have been made.

[FeloniousBishop]

Wouldn't be too surprise if the college makes a generous annual donation to the local police department, to, you know, help them with fund raising like.

[big mike]

Guys, I want NO MORE MENTION of the photographer.
Not sure the issue, but enough.