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[buffjones]

Hello fellow gear pagers!!! Need a little PRS wisdom.
I may be buying my first PRS and need a little advice.
It is a mint 2007 CE-22 all mahogany with the following specs:
solid mahogany body
bolt-on maple neck (natural headstock)
rosewood board
22 fret
no-binding
wide fat neck carve
dragon 2 pickups
is a trem model and has volume,tone,and 3-way
toggle switch...(tone control pulls up to split humbuckers into single coils)
finished in translucent cherry...

I just need opinions on approximate worth (for mint). Please PM me for asking price please. Also, is this generally considered a good PRS. I've never owned one, and of course I will try it before I buy it, but it has everything I like in a go to guitar. How about the dragon 2 pickups?
Cheers, Thanks in advance;)

[GuitarsFromMars]

Hello fellow gear pagers!!! Need a little PRS wisdom.
I may be buying my first PRS and need a little advice.
It is a mint 2007 CE-22 all mahogany with the following specs:
solid mahogany body
bolt-on maple neck (natural headstock)
rosewood board
22 fret
no-binding
wide fat neck carve
dragon 2 pickups
is a trem model and has volume,tone,and 3-way
toggle switch...(tone control pulls up to split humbuckers into single coils)
finished in translucent cherry...

I just need opinions on approximate worth (for mint). Please PM me for asking price please. Also, is this generally considered a good PRS. I've never owned one, and of course I will try it before I buy it, but it has everything I like in a go to guitar. How about the dragon 2 pickups?
Cheers, Thanks in advance;)

Mint, they ask 1200-1500 bux. I wouldn't give more than 900-1000 bux, shipped without the 5 way. Lower shelf guitar without a maple cap/with a maple cap (none are 10 tops). Dragon II p/u's are not widely/universally loved. I like them. When I owned a CE 24, Orky put a pair in my guitar, and I played the snot out of them, in a blues/funk band. I didn't find them to be lacking. That being said, I have Tom Holmes in my SC245.

The wiring sounds a bit like a McCarty.

:eek:

[buffjones]

Mint, they ask 1200-1500 bux. I wouldn't give more than 900-1000 bux, shipped without the 5 way. Lower shelf guitar without a maple cap/with a maple cap (none are 10 tops). Dragon II p/u's are not widely/universally loved. I like them. When I owned a CE 24, Orky put a pair in my guitar, and I played the snot out of them, in a blues/funk band. I didn't find them to be lacking. That being said, I have Tom Holmes in my SC245.

The wiring sounds a bit like a McCarty.

:eek:

Thanks much GuitarsFromMars. That's about where I thought it would be. I actually like the solid mahogany look. Understated in my opinion. So the 3-way is not stock?
I'm a newbie on these I'm afraid. I will I.M. the only pic I have and you can check it out.
Thanks again!!!

[DirtyMoonsRJT]

Actually some of the Maple top ce's did have ten tops...some also had birds. I also have a ce that came stock with the 3 way instead of a rotary so please keep that in mind. people also pay to have the PRS Tech Center upgrade guitars from 5 way rotary to three way push pull...plus they offer a drop in if you are inclined to do it yourself or have a local tech do it. Unless we are talking vintage PRSi', Some PS, one off's, or LE's This does not take away from value IMO...certainly not a stock CE...many who dont get along with the rotary consider it an upgrade.

CE's are wonderful Maryland Made guitars. The trem is one of the best and most stable on the market IMHO. I also agree dragon ii's when set up And adjusted correctly work quite well...just remember to use your volume and tone controls on your guitar and be prepared to spend a bit of time getting to understand the guitar's interaction with the amp's mid notch and sweep. I play mine proudly along side all the other PRS models. They have a snap and an immediacy to them that are different than set necks. I would look to get a ce for around a grand plus or minus a few hundred depending upon condition, upgrades and how badly you want it. One piece of advice I would give is to consider dropping PRS uncovered 59/09's into that guitar...These pups work really well with an all hog body and maple neck.

If you decided not to go with the PRS Tech Center, I also agree that Orkie (John Ingram) does amazing things(considering his history he should!)

Hope this helps!

[buffjones]

Actually some of the Maple top ce's did have ten tops...some also had birds. I also have a ce that came stock with the 3 way instead of a rotary so please keep that in mind. people also pay to have the PRS Tech Center upgrade guitars from 5 way rotary to three way push pull...plus they offer a drop in if you are inclined to do it yourself or have a local tech do it. Unless we are talking vintage PRSi', Some PS, one off's, or LE's This does not take away from value IMO...certainly not a stock CE...many who dont get along with the rotary consider it an upgrade.

CE's are wonderful Maryland Made guitars. The trem is one of the best and most stable on the market IMHO. I also agree dragon ii's when set up And adjusted correctly work quite well...just remember to use your volume and tone controls on your guitar and be prepared to spend a bit of time getting to understand the guitar's interaction with the amp's mid notch and sweep. I play mine proudly along side all the other PRS models. They have a snap and an immediacy to them that are different than set necks. I would look to get a ce for around a grand plus or minus a few hundred depending upon condition, upgrades and how badly you want it. One piece of advice I would give is to consider dropping PRS uncovered 59/09's into that guitar...These pups work really well with an all hog body and maple neck.

If you decided not to go with the PRS Tech Center, I also agree that Orkie (John Ingram) does amazing things(considering his history he should!)

Hope this helps!

Yup,
more great info from the gpg'rs!!! This is why I love it here.
The combined knowledge is just great for finding out about potential
purchases. Guys, what's the deal with the dragon pickups? I've read
nothing but love/hate on them in my research. What is it that's so different than other covered buckers? Are they hotter? Are they just
really really sensitive? I mean, I usually get along great with most p.a.f.
buckers so it's got me curious.:confused:

[DirtyMoonsRJT]

I think dragon ii's originally were caught in the crossfire between the original Dragon crowd that were quite happy with the original's modern voicing and those expecting a vintage voicing similar to what PRSh set out to do with the McCarty's. dragon ii's are in between...they can be quite versatile IMHO but shine when you have a good working relationship with your amp's tone stack and understand the overall interactivity of your gear...if you don't have patience for tweaking...these pups might not be the most ideal...which I totally sympathize with because the easier it is to get your sound the more time you can spend playing. dragon ii's work but I have other PRS pickups that I prefer...

for a more vintage voicing look at 57/08's, 59/09's, 53/10's, or DGT's if you want to stay with PRS branded pickups...all of these also split extremely well. most of my PRSi have been converted to the newer pup offerings.

[slev]

The opinions on the Dragon IIs are all over the place, as stated. I had them in my first PRS, a CE 22, and they were good but not great. Part of the reason I sold the CE (big mistake). I recently put a set of Dragon IIs in my SE Semi-hollow and they were excellent in that guitar. The were able to hold their own against my CU22 with Dragon Is. I think the comment that Dragon IIs require tweaking with your rig is accurate. They didn't work with my Lone star but were pretty good through a 5:50 Express. Ultimately the CE is what matters. Great guitar. Something about the maple neck and the mahogany body just works. I'd say if you can pick it up for ~$1K it would be a good purchase. If you don't like the Dragon IIs you can always swap them out for something that works for your style of music. What you're left with is a guitar that is pretty popular with most PRS disciples. If you check the PRS owners' sig lines you'll see that many have a CE in their stable.

[buffjones]

The opinions on the Dragon IIs are all over the place, as stated. I had them in my first PRS, a CE 22, and they were good but not great. Part of the reason I sold the CE (big mistake). I recently put a set of Dragon IIs in my SE Semi-hollow and they were excellent in that guitar. The were able to hold their own against my CU22 with Dragon Is. I think the comment that Dragon IIs require tweaking with your rig is accurate. They didn't work with my Lone star but were pretty good through a 5:50 Express. Ultimately the CE is what matters. Great guitar. Something about the maple neck and the mahogany body just works. I'd say if you can pick it up for ~$1K it would be a good purchase. If you don't like the Dragon IIs you can always swap them out for something that works for your style of music. What you're left with is a guitar that is pretty popular with most PRS disciples. If you check the PRS owners' sig lines you'll see that many have a CE in their stable.

Once again. Thanks, great info. I guess I'll have to see about p'ups when I try it out. I was really looking for the info on reasonable price etc, and yes, I can swap out the dragon II's If I need to. I still haven't read anyone comment on the actual tone of those. I get that they have to be tweaked/the interaction to amps tone stack/etc. Are they thin sounding? Bass heavy? Too hot? Too mild? I keep reading the same types of comments, but no description of the tone at all, just that you need to tweak them a lot. I'd hate to spend around a grand on a guitar and then spend a good bit on replacing the pickups as well. :facepalm