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sharks
06-20-2012, 10:49 PM
I play around a ton with my Boomerang III but only play over chord vamps I record. There is an octave feature that drops your signal an octave and makes it half speed, but I don't have good enough timing to utilize that properly. Is there a pedal that can do this on the fly? I would love to be able to jam over some funky bass lines

rickkkyrich
06-20-2012, 10:49 PM
How bout an OC2/OC3?

tapehead
06-20-2012, 10:58 PM
EHX POG.

JohnRegular
06-20-2012, 11:05 PM
Get the EHX Octave Multiplexer. yes, it doesn't have perfect tracking, but it is far cheaper than anything polyphonic, but it is analog and it I think it sounds far better and more like a bass, not to mention you have more control over your tone.

sharks
06-20-2012, 11:14 PM
None of those pedals really do what I'm looking for but thanks for trying =\

Modulator
06-20-2012, 11:21 PM
Just buy a cheap bass and an input selector switch. Probably cost you less than any polyphonic pitch/frequency shifting effect that works well.

Doubleneck with bass n guitar perhaps?:D

JohnRegular
06-20-2012, 11:25 PM
None of those pedals really do what I'm looking for but thanks for trying =\

I'm not sure what more you could really need. You sure aren't gonna get anything better, bar buying a bass.

Modulator
06-20-2012, 11:27 PM
Why do you need polyphony for a bassline? It could start to get really muddy with bass chords in the looper.

Mr. Limbic
06-20-2012, 11:30 PM
eventide pitchfactor can do tons of low end stuff..maybe look into one of the sansamp bass di pedals? from what i remember they have cabinet and head simulation, but i have no idea past the pitchfactor

ES330
06-20-2012, 11:30 PM
NO...

sharks
06-20-2012, 11:33 PM
Just buy a cheap bass and an input selector switch. Probably cost you less than any polyphonic pitch/frequency shifting effect that works well.

Doubleneck with bass n guitar perhaps?:D

:omg Doubleneck! Brilliant! Realistically though, it's a matter of space. I'd rather throw another pedal on the board than have to find a spot for another instrument.

I'm not sure what more you could really need. You sure aren't gonna get anything better, bar buying a bass.

I don't want a blended signal and I don't want the octave up. All I want is octave down, without a dry signal.


eventide pitchfactor can do tons of low end stuff..maybe look into one of the sansamp bass di pedals? from what i remember they have cabinet and head simulation, but i have no idea past the pitchfactor

Will do, thanks

sharks
06-20-2012, 11:34 PM
NO...

Ok, :p fair enough.

JohnRegular
06-20-2012, 11:51 PM
I don't want a blended signal and I don't want the octave up. All I want is octave down, without a dry signal.


I don't think there are any pedals that do literally just that. But all the pedals mentioned above are capable of doing that. Plus, you've got the option if you ever feel like it.

sharks
06-20-2012, 11:59 PM
I don't think there are any pedals that do literally just that. But all the pedals mentioned above are capable of doing that. Plus, you've got the option if you ever feel like it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTPBzy0dxVE&feature=player_detailpage#t=175s

There it is! Good call tapehead. Took a couple videos to find that but looks like I've got my answer.

crazynightowl
06-21-2012, 12:37 AM
Oddly enough I have been experimenting with a TC-Helicon VoiceLive Touch and tried using a guitar as a "vocal" input to see if it would harmonize like it does for vocals. It actually works! You do have to use single notes and either set a scale or provide another audio/MIDI signal to let the automatic detection do its magic. You can select the voicing and an octave down is a choice. I'll have to try that and see if it passes muster. There are a number of vocal harmonizers available these days and they might be a solution for this.

Also, as I have commented before, it's pretty hard to beat a good Roland VG-XXX or GR-XXX system for this but that could be a big step if you don't have a hex pickup, etc.

CNO

lumpfish
06-21-2012, 12:48 AM
I have an old Boss OC-2 and i use it just like you are saying. It has a knob for the direct sound and the two octaves. I turn the direct and octave 1 to zero and it leaves me with just the octave down signal.

Footbutt
06-21-2012, 03:27 AM
yeah, OC-2 or OC-3. the latter can do polyphony.

i saw Phil Keaggy playing an acoustic set at a little coffee shop and he was using a OC-2. i know he can make anything sound good, but if you had your eyes closed you couldn't tell he didn't have a bass.

jnepo1
06-21-2012, 04:53 AM
The OC2 is very close, I would go w/ that, never tried the OC3 though. Anyone ever try the Whammy for this application?

-=solewheelin
06-21-2012, 05:32 AM
I like this thread.
Makes me feel all fuzzy.
Yeah the Micro Pog. I had one.
Everyone likes it, but I think theres room for improvement.
It's polyphonic but to me, when it's fully wet, it sounds too digital to sound like a bass.
Has this metallic sound to it.
I'd rather an OC2 or an Octoplus.

dsj
06-21-2012, 06:44 AM
One of the presets on the EHX Ring Thing is a superb octave down.

8strings0hair
06-21-2012, 06:54 AM
EBS Octabass.
Tracks well, can be found cheap used, super sturdy. Has separate volume for the dry signal and the octave down. Just turn down the dry all the way.

whhilton
06-21-2012, 06:57 AM
EHX Pog or Pog2. Plus you get other sounds out of it.

78deluxe
06-21-2012, 07:00 AM
I don't want a blended signal and I don't want the octave up. All I want is octave down, without a dry signal.



A Micro Pog will do this, and has the best tracking out there.

semi-hollowbody
06-21-2012, 07:21 AM
if I am trying to play a bass line into my boss rc20 (looper) I use neck pickup, cut most of the treble, add a little dirt, and kick on my octave pedal...for bass Im playing one note lines so I dont need polyphonic octave...use only the wound strings when I play as well

NHBluesMan
06-21-2012, 07:24 AM
used my Micro-POG as a bass all the time with just the lower octave. Love that pedal

NHBluesMan
06-21-2012, 07:26 AM
or you could go the Jack White way and use a whammy pedal

the "bass" intro on 7 Nation Army is an octave down whammy

echoSE7EN
06-21-2012, 07:28 AM
EBS Octabass.
Tracks well, can be found cheap used, super sturdy. Has separate volume for the dry signal and the octave down. Just turn down the dry all the way.

And there is one in the pedal emporium... :hide

78deluxe
06-21-2012, 07:37 AM
if I am trying to play a bass line into my boss rc20 (looper) I use neck pickup, cut most of the treble, add a little dirt, and kick on my octave pedal...for bass Im playing one note lines so I dont need polyphonic octave...use only the wound strings when I play as well
While I agree poly octave usually isn't needed. The problem is there isn't a non-polyoctave pedal I've played that tracks well enough to really pull it off.

The Micro-Pog while it has capabilities beyond single note tracking....is in fact a great fit for this application.

-=solewheelin
06-21-2012, 08:03 AM
Looking to check out one of these next as a guitar octaver.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/effectspedals001.jpg/http://www.bestbassgear.com/images/other/dunlop-mxr-bass-octave-deluxe.jpg
http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=Qm3&sa=X&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&biw=1668&bih=943&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=Tr9anL1E-ZhR_M:&imgrefurl=http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f213/fs-mxr-m288-bass-octave-deluxe-833994/&docid=dl0UbPKC5ON1UM&imgurl=http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/3203/effectspedals001.jpg&w=800&h=600&ei=rSjjT_vUA4XJ0AHb67nLAw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=903&vpy=538&dur=3709&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=149&ty=115&sig=109521257086212342903&page=1&tbnh=140&tbnw=186&start=0&ndsp=53&ved=1t:429,r:49,s:0,i:234

jazzphan89
06-21-2012, 08:27 AM
The WHAMMY?!

Chriswagon
06-21-2012, 10:34 AM
I don't want a blended signal and I don't want the octave up. All I want is octave down, without a dry signal.


The Pog2 can handle this no problem. The first slider is your dry signal, followed by sliders for 1 and 2 octaves down, as well as 1 and 2 octaves up.

pacomc79
06-21-2012, 10:45 AM
I use the Octron which is plenty clean enough for me, but anything analog is going to be somewhat glitchy

I think the Micro POG is probably exactly what you want too.

Stevil
06-21-2012, 11:00 AM
I use an EBS Octabass for octave down & it sounds great. If you wanna jam over basslines on your guitar without switching instruments, i'd pair a similar analog tracker bass octave pedal with the looper. loop the bassline & then jam over the top.
Aguilar Octamizer & the MXR were the other finalists i was looking at when i was shopping around.
digital pitch shifters can do polyphony & arent suceptible to potential tracking issues, but have a less "natural" sounding bass tone.