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Progman
08-28-2012, 01:41 PM
I was at the local bar with some of my friends and we were having a rock conversation and they all think Ronnie James Dio is better than Robert Plant. I love Plant and Dio, but Plant is better in my opinion.

rwe333
08-28-2012, 01:48 PM
Plant was crazy great for several records, though his voice changed dramatically. Little doubt he's had a remarkable career and never rests on his laurels. Few can lay claim to such a diverse discography.
Dio's voice remained consistently strong through much of a long career, but didn't diversify the way Plant did.
Both icons. Little doubt Plant changed/challenged the industry more and will go down in history. But, it was hard to fault Dio as a singer.

IGuitUpIGuitDown
08-28-2012, 01:50 PM
Plant a tree, and remember Ronnie. :(

thrashmetl
08-28-2012, 02:09 PM
I'll try to put this as best I can. Though I personally enjoy listening to Ronnie more, metal doesn't have the legitimacy that just plain old Rock N' Roll had. Led Zep in their prime was on top of the world as they appealed to a larger majority of their target audience, but Ronnie in his prime was near the top of a smaller niche that appealed to a smaller audience. Robert wins.

ggwwbb
08-28-2012, 02:16 PM
Plant for me, with no disrespect to Ronnie......

Carltone
08-28-2012, 02:24 PM
which ever sang less songs about knights, trolls, dragons and such...:huh

DWB1960
08-28-2012, 02:26 PM
Apples and oranges. Both on the top shelf for what each did.

DWB1960
08-28-2012, 02:28 PM
Plant was crazy great for several records, though his voice changed dramatically.

Throat surgery in 1974. Lost his highest register as a result.

Sigmund Floyd
08-28-2012, 02:28 PM
What about Plant v Ditka?

Plant

memberzonly
08-28-2012, 02:29 PM
Plant's voice was remarkably inconsistent. Dio's voice was remarkably consistent.

If better is defined by providing a more frequent on-key performance, Dio wins.

Having said that, I much prefer Plant's voice post-Zeppelin.

IGuitUpIGuitDown
08-28-2012, 02:29 PM
I may be wrong here, but:

knights:
Plant - 0
Dio - 0

trolls:
Plant - 0
Dio - 0

dragons:
Plant - 0
Dio - 0

(Can anyone think of any songs that do mention these? I can't think of one!)

:huh

CowTipton
08-28-2012, 02:37 PM
Plant had more success but to me there's no comparison. Dio's voice as an instrument is simply on another level.

Dio, and it's not even close.

Blanket Jackson
08-28-2012, 02:40 PM
http://www.harveymackay.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/cowardly-lion.jpg vs. http://padawanjenn.tripod.com/LotR/twotowers/gimli01_lrg.jpg

jwny72
08-28-2012, 02:45 PM
Dio's voice is arguably the better, more consistent instrument, but I just happen to like Led Zep better than any of the bands in which Dio sang. I dislike the operatic heavy metal style of vocals and prefer bluesyier (spelling?) vocal stylings.

I totally agree with the post above which stated Led Zep were more rock and roll and thus had more universal appeal. The bands Dio sang in seem kind of cheesy to non-fans of the genre. I can listen to Led Zep, but I can't listen to Dio, Rainbow, or Dio era Sabbath. Purely a personal preference for musical style of course...

GCDEF
08-28-2012, 02:52 PM
Dio

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Plant

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freedom's door
08-28-2012, 03:07 PM
Plant had more success but to me there's no comparison. Dio's voice as an instrument is simply on another level.

Dio, and it's not even close.

My feelings as well.

TNJ
08-28-2012, 03:08 PM
I may be wrong here, but:

knights:
Plant - 0
Dio - 0

trolls:
Plant - 0
Dio - 0

dragons:
Plant - 0
Dio - 0

(Can anyone think of any songs that do mention these? I can't think of one!)

:huh

Ramble on, I think mentioned 'Mordor', and 'Gollum and the Evil One'.
And, of course, Battle of Evermore mentions the 'Dragon of Darkness'.

Hey...you asked,

S.
j

DWB1960
08-28-2012, 03:19 PM
Ramble on, I think mentioned 'Mordor', and 'Gollum and the Evil One'.
And, of course, Battle of Evermore mentions the 'Dragon of Darkness'.

Hey...you asked,

S.
j

They've both been known to yield a sword....

http://www.live4metal.org/dio1-rip.jpg

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/33408685/Robert%2BPlant%2BRobert_candles_sword.jpg

IGuitUpIGuitDown
08-28-2012, 03:22 PM
Ramble on, I think mentioned 'Mordor', and 'Gollum and the Evil One'.
And, of course, Battle of Evermore mentions the 'Dragon of Darkness'.

Hey...you asked,

S.
j

RO does mention Mordor, Gollum, etc., but not a knight, troll, or dragon - right? TBOE does mention the DOD.

Dio, therefore, WINS!!!!

:rotflmao

Thanks, Steve!

TNJ
08-28-2012, 03:22 PM
To me, Plant even LOOKS more the part.
Prince of Gondor, travelling Mystic in Kashmir, or Viking headed to Valhalla...he's DA MAN!
In all fairness, I've not heard much of Dio...I'm a bit biased, and get the Led out quite often.

:)

S.
j

IGuitUpIGuitDown
08-28-2012, 03:24 PM
They've both been known to yield a sword....

http://www.live4metal.org/dio1-rip.jpg

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/33408685/Robert%2BPlant%2BRobert_candles_sword.jpg

I would always prefer to yield, to a sword...

:bonk

Telebluze
08-28-2012, 03:24 PM
What about Plant v Ditka?

Plant

:spit:spit:spit

Scott Auld
08-28-2012, 03:25 PM
They are both very unique, very well-suited for their own songs, and I can't really imagine them in a "contest" where there has to be a winner. Sorry man.

taco-man
08-28-2012, 03:34 PM
I may be wrong here, but:


(Can anyone think of any songs that do mention these? I can't think of one!)

:huh
No Quarter = Knights
Neon Knights = Knights
Killing the Dragon = Dragon
Jimmy Page = Dragon Pants
Gollum = Troll
Elf

m1911
08-28-2012, 03:40 PM
Sorry fellas....not even close....
Mr. Steve Marriott wins any/every Rock-Singer catagory...
:D

http://img1.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/2/1/21d8mkmuoo2xooxk.jpg

Fishin'Musician
08-28-2012, 03:46 PM
Plant vs. Dio?

CORNELL

DWB1960
08-28-2012, 03:48 PM
Sorry fellas....not even close....
Mr. Steve Marriott wins any/every Rock-Singer catagory...
:D

Plant vs. Dio?

CORNELL

OP isn't asking who's the best. Just who is best between Plant and Dio.

pfflam
08-28-2012, 03:51 PM
Dio sounded like silly operatic hack and sung silly songs for teenage boys
Plant sings songs for musicians and mature appreciators as well as teenage boys and girls

[/curmudgeonly opinion]

Dr. Jimmy
08-28-2012, 03:56 PM
For me it's Dio purely because he had the better, more consistant voice.

Neither could hold a candle to Ian Gillan in his prime.....

mesamark5
08-28-2012, 03:56 PM
plant is iconic.

DCAddy
08-28-2012, 04:00 PM
:spitSorry fellas....not even close....
Mr. Steve Marriott wins any/every Rock-Singer catagory...
:D

http://img1.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/2/1/21d8mkmuoo2xooxk.jpg
:spit

rspencer
08-28-2012, 04:25 PM
For me it's Dio purely because he had the better, more consistant voice.

Neither could hold a candle to Ian Gillan in his prime.....

I agree on all points. Plant was inconsistent in his prime ('69-'71), and it just got worse.

But Gillan...man, untouchable when at his best.
Coverdale & Hughes couldn't even pull it off working together. :)

IGuitUpIGuitDown
08-28-2012, 04:40 PM
No Quarter = Knights
Neon Knights = Knights
Killing the Dragon = Dragon
Jimmy Page = Dragon Pants
Gollum = Troll
Elf

No mention of knights in NQ - implied to be 'wearing steel'
Dragon pants have nothing to do with Plant's lyrics
Gollum was a hobbit corrupted/changed by The Ring - right?
Elf was Dio's band before Rainbow, but not lyrics

Allen in San Jose
08-28-2012, 05:12 PM
Dio was the better singer, and more consistent in his live performances, but Plant reached an arguably greater audience, and thus was more influential.

Still, I voted Dio, if we go by singing ability and consistency.

taco-man
08-28-2012, 05:36 PM
No mention of knights in NQ - implied to be 'wearing steel'
Dragon pants have nothing to do with Plant's lyrics
Gollum was a hobbit corrupted/changed by The Ring - right?
Elf was Dio's band before Rainbow, but not lyrics
Just goofing around. I stand corrected.

leonard d rock
08-28-2012, 05:37 PM
both were good, but i think ronnie was better as he was still singing his songs in his normal pitch and range in his late years while plant's voice changed down. both made great contributions to rock

mvd18969
08-28-2012, 05:39 PM
Plant had more success but to me there's no comparison. Dio's voice as an instrument is simply on another level.

Dio, and it's not even close.

Totally agree........Dio by a landslide........../thread

RedTiger
08-28-2012, 05:52 PM
Dio could actually sing the higher notes.

Plant could...well, let's just say we all know it doesn't take a good singing voice to kick ass, nor did Zeppelin suffer from Plant's voice.

I voted Dio.

IGuitUpIGuitDown
08-28-2012, 06:29 PM
His real last name starts with the letter "P."

(some of you get it...) :rotflmao

rspencer
08-28-2012, 07:05 PM
Dio didn't have to have the old songs tuned down for his voice.


They were already tuned down 30 years ago. ;)

chrisr777
08-28-2012, 07:11 PM
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He didn't just sing about it.

rwe333
08-28-2012, 07:19 PM
Sorry fellas....not even close....
Mr. Steve Marriott wins any/every Rock-Singer catagory...
:D

http://img1.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/2/1/21d8mkmuoo2xooxk.jpg

When on, Marriott was incredible. But he wasn't always on...
Ian Gillan was amazing at his best - a real one-off. But he had a hard time singing Ronnie's tunes (as did Halford).
Paul Rodgers was one of the few w/ a head voice as high and powerful as Ronnie (very different style).

Carltone
08-28-2012, 07:23 PM
I may be wrong here, but:
:huh

I don't really follow either of them closely but I know they both did and others have shown the proof...:rotflmao

gregm99
08-28-2012, 07:30 PM
Plant and Zep were legendary in his prime,but more because of songwriting and status.

Dio was a better pure singer with a more diverse body of work and his voice stayed stronger for many more years.

I voted Dio...just my opinion!

pfflam
08-28-2012, 07:46 PM
I can't believe that Dio's voice or songwriting is taken remotely seriously, he sounds downright goofy . . . he lacks any of the nuance that Plant has on an off day and while Led Zeppelin's songs might touch on knights etc theirs are still far from the goofy adolescent cartoon silliness of Dio's oeuvre

Plant = emotional songcraft and unforced voice mastery even when the lyrics come from knights and Mordor (written when the Lord of the Rings was barely known yet)

Dio = goofy pseudo-operatic kitschy gut singing about fog-machine fantasy narratives

"time to be killing the Dragon of Death . . . " gimme a break!!!

leper messiah
08-28-2012, 07:49 PM
Who had the bigger bustle in his hedgerow?

Revpolar
08-28-2012, 07:51 PM
Sorry fellas....not even close....
Mr. Steve Marriott wins any/every Rock-Singer catagory...
:D

http://img1.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/2/1/21d8mkmuoo2xooxk.jpg

+1000:aok

Dr. Jimmy
08-29-2012, 04:53 AM
I agree on all points. Plant was inconsistent in his prime ('69-'71), and it just got worse.

But Gillan...man, untouchable when at his best.
Coverdale & Hughes couldn't even pull it off working together. :)

And both of them are damn good singers too!

Dr. Tweedbucket
08-29-2012, 05:00 AM
Plants voice was kind of annoying in a way for me, especially live, but I'm going to have to vote in his favor simply because the band around him just rocked hard and had lots of great material. Dio was an excellent singer, but more cheese factor than I usually like to see. Man on the Silver Mountain was a great tune! :love: