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Troubleman
01-28-2006, 11:27 AM
I'm trying to find a good match to my Fuchs Blackjack 21 head. I've been hanging around in 4x10 combo-ville for awhile now (super reverbs, budda 4x10 twinmaster), so I guess open-back 4x10 might be my cup of tea. My second fav speaker arrangement: Bogner 4x12, and the 4x12 prototype that Jeff Bober of Budda Amplification built for me (weighs a ton). I was sorta hopin' that Marshall's 1965B would be a mix of the two - a bit of 4x10 magic and a bit of 4x12 bottom end whallop. Any users or opinions out there? Two degenerating disks in my back:BITCH have dictated that my days of 4x12's might be coming to an end.

thanks!

jb

rastaman
01-28-2006, 12:15 PM
Man I love the sould of a 4/12 :JAM .

But my days of hauling them are over, I love my Marshall 4/10.

scottypeel
01-28-2006, 12:19 PM
The Marshall 1965 (A or B) has always been one of my favorite cabinets. I used to gig with 2 of them, they are easy to carry and load, and they sound great with almost any amp. I even dropped one down a flight of stairs one night, and never looked back ~ I still use that cab!
They come up on ebay from time to time. Great cabinet...

rastaman
01-28-2006, 12:26 PM
I forgot to mention, I can carry the cab in one hand and have a free hand for other gear :) .

scottypeel
01-28-2006, 12:30 PM
also, you gotta make sure they have the original Celestion G10L35 speakers...

flatfinger
01-28-2006, 01:05 PM
:Spank :) SSShhhhhhhhhhhhhuuuuuuush! Just buy one and then keep the secret, troubleman. The real trouble would be if too many people find out about these!!!!!!!!!!!!

GTRJoe
01-28-2006, 01:59 PM
A very cool and underated cab. The 2X12 version is pretty cool as well if you change out the 75 watt speakers. I had one with a pair of greenbacks that I used for seveal years.

boog204
01-28-2006, 02:02 PM
i've been gigging w/ one for 5 years. i bought it used, beat to crap, and it's been great. i've got a bunch of random speakers in there and it sounds great. HIGHLY recommended.

Badger71
01-28-2006, 02:43 PM
Avatar makes a 4x10 now with the Celestians. You gotta break those speakers in yourself, though.

ned911
01-28-2006, 07:30 PM
I use an A cab as well with a Randall RM50HB. Wouldn't hesitate to switch the head out but the cab will always stay.

Kiwi
01-28-2006, 07:41 PM
4x10s are a secret weapon. You get heard without killing everything else in zip code.

The Marshall 4x10 is closed-back, has a lot of punch and presence, something of a scoop in the mids, and a slightly crispy top end. It suits the Marshall distortion voicing really well.

I tend to play cleaner, and I like an airy sound. I ended up preferring the open-back 4x10 sound. The sleeper here is the Mesa 4x10 (yes, Mesa) with the alnico Jensen RI's. It's terrific with Fenders and Dr Z. A bit too bright for Matchless.

Just depends on your needs and uses - but yes, the 4x10 cabs are the way to go!

Kiwi

zenpeace69
01-28-2006, 08:17 PM
They are pretty good, but I don't think they are as good as many people feel. The G10L35s are greenbackish sounding, which is a cool thing. The cab has very little thump, though. I used one for a while with my Koch Twintone head and it was ok. I actually brought that rig to the first NE ampfest. That rig was overwhelmed by most everything else. Currently, I have my Twintone going into a 1960 and it's awesome. All the clean headroom I want and lots of thump and volume for the overdrive channel, too.

T.Wesley
01-28-2006, 10:13 PM
I love mine, have been using it now for just over a year. I had one a long time ago that got stolen and it just took me a while to replace it. Anyway, the A cab gets regular use and not long ago I converted my B cab to a 2x12, just to get some different sounds.

What zen criticizes about the 1965 cab, that it has very little thump, is actually one of the things that I like best about it. With my band, too much thump from my side of the stage makes us sound ... I dunno, too 'metal'. The 10s give me plenty of low end, the closed back keeps it tight & focused, but the smaller amount of moving air (as compared to a 4x12) keeps the thump under control, which for our music is perfect.

--chiba

Pete Galati
01-28-2006, 10:30 PM
I got a Marshall 4x10 cabinet several years ago to use with my Bassman head. Paid $200 for it.

I replaced the speakers to get it down to 4ohms for the Bassman head, but the Celestion G10L-35 speakers than come in them are very good.

I bought a 1936 2x12 cabinet since then, but went back to the Marshall 4x10 because I like the sound, and it's easier to move around.

Works great with my JTM45RI too.

If I joined a loud band, and had help carrying my gear, I'd buy a good 4x12 cabinet instead.

Pete

BozoTone
01-29-2006, 06:32 AM
Man, I have wanted one of those Marshall 4X10's forever..a 1965B...seems like every time they come up on EvilBay they go over what I want to spend...serious consideration is going to an Avatar 4X10 empty cab. and four Southbay (Scumback) 10's.....

ned911
01-29-2006, 06:44 AM
Kiwi is right the Mesa 410s are smoking. They are also a lot heavier than the Marshall. I've got a Mesa with 2 Jensen and 2 Eminence loaded. This page has a sound clip with my Fender Champ through the Mesa 410.

http://www.grailtone.com/guitar-reviews/weber-minimass-review.html

Red Planet
01-29-2006, 07:36 AM
Bogner Makes a pretty little 4x10.



http://www.bogneramplification.com/

http://www.bogneramplification.com/4x10Back.jpg
http://www.bogneramplification.com/4x102.jpg

mcdyas
01-29-2006, 08:18 AM
I picked one up from a TGP member that had 4 V10's in it. I swapped in a Weber 10 alnico and a Ragin Cajun with 2 V10's. It is definitely worth having for a different sound.

Troubleman
01-31-2006, 11:02 AM
(whispering) +1 on that -- I have 1965A slant top with G10L35s (140watts) . . .

Please don't mention this anymore . . . :)

That would be the kinda drive tone I seek. Tell me - how does the cab/speaker combination do on clean sounds? I did discover that the Blackjack 21 goes from clean headroom to dirty fairly quickly.
Many thanks. I'm really thinking that 4x10s might just be "me"...

peace,

jb

908SSP
01-31-2006, 12:14 PM
Are any Marshall 4x10s NOT made of sawdust and glue? If so how what year?

bosstone
04-28-2007, 01:07 PM
All the 1965 cabs have plywood front baffle and sides. Only the back baffle is splinters and glue. I cut out a square of voidless plywood and cured that problem. Actually, I added a rear port that has the same sq. in. area as two 10" speaker cut outs and like the sound much better. 59 Bassmans amd Super Reverbs are open back. The Bogner and Boogie 4 X 10" cabs are mostly open back. My cab is much more closed than any of these cabs and I think it sounds fantastic.