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67mike
06-30-2013, 11:04 PM
I am going to vote for Rivera........total sleeper amp.

Peavey is also on the list.

jamesrsmith
06-30-2013, 11:25 PM
i agree, good call, and for some reason david allen makes very underrated amps.i had a jake non reverb rivera,, must have been something negative about the ninja boost,, i have owned an allen brown sugar since 2005,, lil monster

ES330
06-30-2013, 11:35 PM
Every Rivera amp I've heard has been fantastic !!
Unfortunately, it's the opposite with Peavey...
Oh well... variety makes the world go round...

NorCal_Val
06-30-2013, 11:40 PM
I am going to vote for Rivera........total sleeper amp.

Shhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Don't let everyone in on the secret!!

Plague Dog
06-30-2013, 11:43 PM
I've owned Rivera, it was pretty good... I had Egnater... decent. My Reinhardt was a cool amp, but nothing really wowed me, then I traded into a Dr Z EGZ 50 kinda by accident. I don't know if it's the 6L6's or just the simplicity of the design but it is head and shoulders above any othe amp I've ever owned.

tele_jas
06-30-2013, 11:58 PM
I say Vox...nobody wants an actual Vox these past 5-10 years, it's all Hayseed, JIM, Morgan, Top hat, Dr Z, Bad Cat, etc.... Vox actually makes some decent amps nowadays.....just sayin'

althekiller
07-01-2013, 12:48 AM
VHT/Fryette. I can't believe how cheap you can pick up Fryette amps for and how hard they are to sell yet they are easily among the best amps out there.

jcopello
07-01-2013, 01:03 AM
Mesa, not much love for them on here and their imagine has been diluted ever since the recto thing took off. They really make some incredible amps and most guys just walk right by them assuming its a metal amp.

guitarrhinoceros
07-01-2013, 01:28 AM
I think Morgan Amplification is a totally underrated brand. Sure, everyone likes to look at them, but there aren't that many dudes on here that own them.

lukeII
07-01-2013, 02:07 AM
I vote Divided by 13. They are just phenomenal in terms of their tone and harmonic content but people are always selling them because they buy too much amp

bunuel
07-01-2013, 02:31 AM
Vintage '60s Ampegs. No contest.

hiz99
07-01-2013, 02:57 AM
I think Morgan Amplification is a totally underrated brand. Sure, everyone likes to look at them, but there aren't that many dudes on here that own them.

Everyone who has one seems to absolutely love it, but they're are just soo expensive! :eeks

mpsa01
07-01-2013, 03:07 AM
Laney - One of the best for British tone but always deemed deeply unfashionable compared to Marshall and Orange.

I guess that's always been the way with London vs Birmingham though.

I suppose I'd also add that Matamp just kills it. Buddy of mine got a handwired custom 100w head for 1149. For the money nothing comes close in terms of what's available here in the UK.

sleewell
07-01-2013, 05:16 AM
LOL, mesa and vox are very far from being underrated.

lespaulnmarshall
07-01-2013, 05:57 AM
LOL, mesa and vox are very far from being underrated.

Among blues and classic rock players mesa is I think.

Robbgnarly
07-01-2013, 06:16 AM
Krank had a couple great amps. The Chadwick and the 1980 are great at that british sound and run $400-$700 used normally.

The Chadwick has an amazing clean channel and the 1980 is like a budget Splawn Quickrod

geek-mo
07-01-2013, 06:20 AM
Vintage Traynor, although people seem to be catching on...

tubedude
07-01-2013, 06:28 AM
Old Gibson amps ie. ga-15-rvt, falcon and others from the 50's and 60's.

67mike
07-01-2013, 08:14 AM
Vintage Traynor, although people seem to be catching on...

Thanks to Prince and his new Canadian guitarist.

bullet6759
07-01-2013, 08:33 AM
vintage SANOS and Guilds.

Silent Sound
07-01-2013, 09:00 AM
Vintage '60s Ampegs. No contest.

Hard to argue with that! Great tones, unique sounds, quality construction... What more could you ask for? Value you say? Okay, they've got that too!

I also agreed with the old Traynors.

But to call Vox, Mesa, /13, and Morgan underrated... That's hard to argue. Not that they don't make great amps, but I'd hardly call them underrated.

A440
07-01-2013, 09:20 AM
Fargen is really sizing up very well for me. I lucked into an Epic 30 1x12 combo. Sort of in the vox camp with 4xEL84 power section, but a simple amp with a lot of clean headroom.

I usually lean toward 6L6 style amps, but every time I pull out the Fargen my bandmates say it sounds great. I'm very happy with the sound and feel, and the build quality is excellent.

dangeroso
07-01-2013, 10:23 AM
I am going to vote for Rivera........total sleeper amp.

Peavey is also on the list.

Rivera was the first thing I thought when I read the title.

vbjamin
07-01-2013, 11:15 AM
Hughs and Kettner, NOBODY is talking about this gear. I ask, WHY. My Tubemiester 18 head with an EV12M 1 12cab has replaced everything else.

thiscalltoarms
07-01-2013, 11:34 AM
Budda made some killer amps and I never thought they took off like they should have...

CheeseGrater
07-01-2013, 12:22 PM
I am going to vote for Rivera........total sleeper amp.

Peavey is also on the list.

Agree with Peavey on TGP, elsewhere they are more respected - mainly in the metal community.

Blackstar Series One? They sounded killer when i've played them and heard others playing them, but you don't hear too much about them.

Mesa, not much love for them on here and their imagine has been diluted ever since the recto thing took off. They really make some incredible amps and most guys just walk right by them assuming its a metal amp.

good point- The F50 i had had really amazing cleans - even did SRV edge of breakup type stuff. Ironically, i sold it as the high gain tone was not my favorite.

gulliver
07-01-2013, 12:31 PM
LOL, mesa and vox are very far from being underrated.

I agree, and think Peavey gets decent billing here as well.

tone?
07-01-2013, 12:37 PM
Lots of good amps
Amps come and go . Whatever is not in fashion now

Marshalls were not in fashion for a long time . Now they are

guitarrhinoceros
07-01-2013, 12:42 PM
Only on TGP could brands like Mesa and Vox be thought of as underrated.

sleewell
07-01-2013, 12:53 PM
Only on TGP could brands like Mesa and Vox be thought of as underrated.


exactly my point.


i dont think people understand what underrated means or they just want to post what their current favorite amp is.

if lots and lots people are talking positively about an amp but not many people own them they are not underrated.

if millions of people play that brand and they are in the big 4 (marshall, fender, mesa and vox) they are not underrated.

guitarrhinoceros
07-01-2013, 01:13 PM
I think people know what underrated means, but I think TGP is generally a cork-sniffer-type-of-place, no? I don't mean that negatively either, I just mean that boutique is the name if the game here -- so much so, that even popular amp brands like Vox and Mesa start to seem forgotten.

We are more or less in agreement. To say Vox and Mesa are underrated is to speak without thinking.

blackba
07-01-2013, 01:14 PM
Laney - One of the best for British tone but always deemed deeply unfashionable compared to Marshall and Orange.

I guess that's always been the way with London vs Birmingham though.

I suppose I'd also add that Matamp just kills it. Buddy of mine got a handwired custom 100w head for 1149. For the money nothing comes close in terms of what's available here in the UK.

+1 on Laney. Especially in the USA, where the distribution has not always been the best, they often get overlooked.

GibsonLives
07-01-2013, 02:33 PM
Crate and Carvin. Often overlooked, resale is dismal, but for those who actually give them a chance, we're left wondering how they can stuff all that quality and features into amps for such low prices.
Steve

Phloored
07-01-2013, 03:16 PM
Laney - One of the best for British tone but always deemed deeply unfashionable compared to Marshall and Orange.

I guess that's always been the way with London vs Birmingham though.

I suppose I'd also add that Matamp just kills it. Buddy of mine got a handwired custom 100w head for 1149. For the money nothing comes close in terms of what's available here in the UK.

I think we think alike. I had a Matamp V-28 with the voicing knob and wattage changing ala "1224". Kind a transitional 1224. Very nice amp

Have the L50H Lionheart now and it is a great great amp. Love it.These are not underrated for me however they seem to be overlooked.

scott
07-01-2013, 03:19 PM
Greer is criminally underrated.

TheGuildedAge
07-01-2013, 03:21 PM
I would say Laney.

Wagster
07-01-2013, 03:28 PM
TopHat amps.

buzzp
07-01-2013, 03:30 PM
Traynor yes, VHT(fryette) is another, old Ampegs are awesome but you gotta find a good one

clamflatslim
07-01-2013, 04:48 PM
carvin for sure.vintage series is excellent.

Deed_Poll
07-01-2013, 07:07 PM
Matamp. Both for heritage and enduring quality - the 1224 is a masterpiece.

Kylelagz
07-01-2013, 08:45 PM
I had a laney aor pro tube 100, six knob version. incredible amp for the money ($100!) but it just didnt cut. always lacked the oomph my JMP has.

solid state sunn stuff, great for being stupid loud.
sound city heads, love those
peavey
sovtek if you can find one at a decent price nowadays
fender roc pro 1000
musicman hd-130

the list goes on and on. all wonderful amps with a ton of power and they sound killer

Coldacre
07-01-2013, 08:48 PM
definitely Laney

boogiemon
07-01-2013, 08:52 PM
TopHat amps.


Unpopular perhaps but not underrated: seems that most who actually plug into one like them quite a lot.

LPVM
07-01-2013, 09:07 PM
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Mr. E.
07-01-2013, 09:16 PM
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That's a thing of beauty.

ngativ
07-01-2013, 09:18 PM
Peavey.
BTW ... In my opinion, they hit a home run with their Vypyr amps

voxylady
07-01-2013, 09:24 PM
ITT: people naming every major, popular amp brand out there

wrxplayer
07-01-2013, 09:29 PM
Laney Lionheart series.

Robbgnarly
07-01-2013, 10:05 PM
I agree Laney is very underrated. For years I had a Laney 4x12cab and no one knew who/what they were and I played live all over the state of Florida and Georgia.

Stonehead
07-01-2013, 10:15 PM
IMO Without a doubt it has to be Traynor. Been around 40 + years and not many people know them or how great their amps are.

lp_bruce
07-01-2013, 10:34 PM
carvin for sure.vintage series is excellent.

As with some others, this is more "underrated on TGP," than IRL. Agreed they are great amps (I dig my Belair), but I've never heard anyone outside of TGP have a bad word to say about them. With all things, YMMV.

I've played through several Crate's that surprised me, and that is a brand that gets no love anywhere.

Peace,

forum_crawler
07-01-2013, 10:41 PM
As mentioned before: Traynor doesn't get the love they deserve.

AtlMusicMan86
07-01-2013, 10:41 PM
I'd have to go with a Peavey Classic 30. Sounds awesome, is loud and is still made in the USA for only $650!

Robbgnarly
07-01-2013, 10:41 PM
Carvin has never done it for me. I honestly don't understand all the love? The only carvin I have ever liked was the old x100b and even that was only a like and nothing else. carvins tend to be very fizzy/fuzzy. I will never suggest them that's for sure.

But then I know people who absolutely love them and sound great, its kinds weird

67mike
07-01-2013, 11:52 PM
IMO Without a doubt it has to be Traynor. Been around 40 + years and not many people know them or how great their amps are.

Well I bought a traynor TS 120 in the 80s....it sucked pretty hard.

GAT
07-02-2013, 12:00 AM
Longhorn!

I swear, the El Vaquero is stunning!

Plague Dog
07-02-2013, 12:20 AM
I have an Ampeg... thing sound phenominal.
I have a Crate V5212, it kicks major butt.
I have a Gibson Goldtone I would put up against any boutique amp.
I have a DR Z EZG 50 that has the best blackface tones I've ever heard.
I have a Carvin MTS 3200 that does wonderful pristine cleans all the way to JCM 800 crunch.

I think the Ampeg, the Crate and the Carvin are all ridiculously underrated

Grady
07-02-2013, 01:05 AM
Genz Benz EL Diablo........Not much love on TGP...... But I love mine.:aok

mpsa01
07-02-2013, 03:18 AM
I think we think alike. I had a Matamp V-28 with the voicing knob and wattage changing ala "1224". Kind a transitional 1224. Very nice amp

Have the L50H Lionheart now and it is a great great amp. Love it.These are not underrated for me however they seem to be overlooked.

Love the 1224. I know you can get it set to 75w rather than the cathode biased 40w, and I think that's probably my dream amp (right now anyway).

On that note, however, I love that L50H. Such an unusual design in the power stage is it not? It's 5xEL34 in Class A, with a weird hi-fi-like output transformer. Either way, the edge of breakup tones from it sounded great when I tried it in a shop.

Londonbus
07-02-2013, 03:29 AM
Tophat.

Phloored
07-02-2013, 07:25 AM
Love the 1224. I know you can get it set to 75w rather than the cathode biased 40w, and I think that's probably my dream amp (right now anyway).

On that note, however, I love that L50H. Such an unusual design in the power stage is it not? It's 5xEL34 in Class A, with a weird hi-fi-like output transformer. Either way, the edge of breakup tones from it sounded great when I tried it in a shop.

I have just tried the lionheart through a large detuned cab with a fane alnico and it sounds so good. The guitars volume knob is king with this one. The timmy pedal becomes part of the amp . The way the highend articulates is unreal. It is so vintage sounding yet is a unique sound.Lotta underrated amps out there!

Preacherofrock
07-02-2013, 08:17 AM
I vote frenzel. He makes great sounding amps that are built like tanks. Also, his amps are very versitile and have addressed some of the weaknesses of original circuits.

Trebor Renkluaf
07-02-2013, 09:09 AM
Fryette Memphis 30.

rockbutt
07-02-2013, 09:14 AM
Marshall amps.

phoghat
07-02-2013, 09:23 AM
VALVETRAIN. I'm really surprised it's not one of the top TGP faves. PG just gave the Valvetrain Trenton a stellar review, but these amazing amps never seem to get much traction among the gearheads. I hope that changes soon because it's a great company with tremendous products, competitive prices and awesome customer service. Yes, I am an unashamed fanboy.

johns048
07-02-2013, 09:45 AM
PRS :hide2

bullet6759
07-02-2013, 10:01 AM
u_0K6PwfUiQHilgen. man New jersey made some fine amps in the 60s

Gassage
07-02-2013, 10:01 AM
Cornell. Superb things.

samdjr74
07-02-2013, 10:07 AM
Peavey!

melodiusthunk
07-02-2013, 08:31 PM
My Roland Cube 80X sounds pretty good at low to medium gain settings, not as good IMO with the high gain emulations. it doesn't get much use since the Mesa express 5:50 arrived 2 1/2 years ago, but whenever i do take it out, i am pleasantly surprised.

jcopello
07-02-2013, 09:02 PM
PRS :hide2

I would agree with this as well, I wish they wouldn't have made the SE line, I think it dilutes the image too much, buy I can understand why they did it.

guitarrhinoceros
07-02-2013, 10:00 PM
I would agree with this as well, I wish they wouldn't have made the SE line, I think it dilutes the image too much, buy I can understand why they did it.

Absolutely. I kind of forgot about them. I really want to get my mitts on one of their Dallas handwired amps, but I can never find a shop that actually has one in-stock.

Good call on PRS.

guitarrhinoceros
07-02-2013, 10:08 PM
u_0K6PwfUiQHilgen. man New jersey made some fine amps in the 60s

Cool!

jamesrsmith
07-02-2013, 10:13 PM
five pages of peavy mesa boogie and rivera, and i am the only person who has mentioned allen amplification.. i think i win,, hah hah,, david should get more respect. however these are old fender replica amps..maybe that is the deal.

frankie5fingers
07-02-2013, 10:19 PM
Ampeg (Reverborocket 2), Valvetrain (416 and 535), and Richter (5E3) Headstrong (Lil King Prima). Some pretty great sounds, at some reasonable prices. I know it says brands but nobody hits 'em all out of the park.
Oh yeah, Park.

LIONEL69
07-02-2013, 10:23 PM
kingsley
kingsley
kingsley
kingsley

Sirroderick
07-02-2013, 10:28 PM
Traynor anyone?

lukejesse
07-02-2013, 11:06 PM
Why are people listing boutique amp makers I have never heard of? It can't be underrated if only 6 people know about it. My votes are for Traynor and Peavey. No respect, but they sound great!

televisual
07-03-2013, 12:44 AM
Peavey Classic series...wish I'd never sold my Classic 50 years ago, sounded incredible even when I didn't "sound" incredible, lol

d3nzi0
07-03-2013, 01:01 AM
I would say Laney.

Agree - I'm still not over the fact that I sold my VC15 - which imho is up to par with any AC15

johns048
07-03-2013, 10:33 AM
Absolutely. I kind of forgot about them. I really want to get my mitts on one of their Dallas handwired amps, but I can never find a shop that actually has one in-stock.

Good call on PRS.

Yea, I took a chance on an H having only heard the you tube demos. Have to say I am very pleased and I got it a a great price. If I didn't need the clean channel and reverb, the HXDA sounds pretty sick. Yuo just can't find them anywhere..

Blindjoedeath
07-03-2013, 11:43 AM
I have to say Peavey. They've been making great affordable amps since forever. I don't know anyone that hasn't played a Peavey at one time or another during their career. They are summarily dismissed by a lot of people as cheap junk, but I disagree. You can do a lot worse!

jazz-master
07-03-2013, 02:00 PM
Another vote for Rivera. The Venus 6 has been stellar enough to keep from wanting another amp. So far...

Mantraoverdrive
07-03-2013, 02:57 PM
Laney - One of the best for British tone but always deemed deeply unfashionable compared to Marshall and Orange.

I guess that's always been the way with London vs Birmingham though.

I suppose I'd also add that Matamp just kills it. Buddy of mine got a handwired custom 100w head for 1149. For the money nothing comes close in terms of what's available here in the UK.


LANEY!!!! Hellz yeah!

Pet Sound
07-03-2013, 06:17 PM
Budda amps. They've been around since the 90s and seem to be held in fairly high regard by those who have played them, but I scarcely hear mention of them in comparison to other hot names out there, and there is actually very little information on them available, save for the official website, which has some info on the current, post-peavey-buyout products.

Also (and I was really hoping not to be the first to say this), I have a HR Deluxe, v3 I believe, and I think it's a great amp, especially for the money. I never understood why this amp has gotten such a bad rap, particularly when people shower praises on products from Egnater and the like. I think I've heard some people say there were major issues with the previous version, so maybe that has somethin to do with it.

And for those who struggle to read between the lines, I didn't say Egnater makes a poor product.

TeletoneH137
07-03-2013, 06:51 PM
Richter

samuelson
07-03-2013, 06:55 PM
Carp amps are great.

gnarripper
07-04-2013, 01:13 AM
Rivera, Budda.

SeanMc
07-04-2013, 01:51 AM
Why are people listing boutique amp makers I have never heard of? It can't be underrated if only 6 people know about it. My votes are for Traynor and Peavey. No respect, but they sound great!

^this +1

Can't say that I'll ever own one because I'm too snooty. But I've played several low-cost Peavey amps and was able to get a decent sound.

jpage
07-04-2013, 05:59 AM
Here? Marshall, Mesa and Fender.

heavision
07-05-2013, 01:04 PM
I've never played thru one, but the Event Horizon 3 from PWE sounds amazing. Definitely on my wish list. Seems to be lots of positive reviews about those amps, and PWE.