West Coast Blues Thread - Version 2.0

[KBR]

Mike,
Mini's sound great in any body, & I have had em in 3 different woods, Ash, Alder, Pine...
they are not as popular as big hbers & that's a good thing.

[btg]

I just heard Paul DeLay has passed away. I heard one of his tunes on XM and had made a note to get the CD that it was on. RIP

[Dave Orban]

I just heard Paul DeLay has passed away. I heard one of his tunes on XM and had made a note to get the CD that it was on. RIPDamn... That is just horrible!

[HappyValley]

I just heard Paul DeLay has passed away. I heard one of his tunes on XM and had made a note to get the CD that it was on. RIP
I loved his work on Ramos' "Greasy Kid Stuff" record; What a loss.

[Scott Miller]

"Mini's sound great in any body..."

Amen to that; I've heard KBR with his mini-HB Tele. Or was it a Strat? I think I've heard both. Anyway, smooth tone, and it cuts through anything.

[Dave Orban]

I loved his work on Ramos' "Greasy Kid Stuff" record; What a loss.
His own records are even better. Great playing, great singing, great songwriting chops...

Too sad...!

[KBR]

I am Very saddened to hear this, and had a ton of RESPECT, and loved hearing Paul Play, as I have enjoyed His Work for a long time.
I was going to look him up in a few weeks, as we are moving up to Portland.

Kenny Blue Ray

[TwoFeets]

Wow. Very sad to hear Paul has passed. I was even in a band that we named after one of his tunes, Great Big Kid. What a shame.

[GOLDENSTRAT]

Yes, very sad about Paul. RIP. fred

[safecracker]

Hash Brown has let me play his Riviera onstage a couple of times and it is a great guitar. Very versatile. I did not notice the neck being narrow which suprised me. If I found a good one that I could afford I would buy it in a second.

Safecracker - we almost have to be related somehow. Let me know when you are coming to Carrollton. It might as well be Dallas. I can tell you where to go maybe meet you there I can swing loose.

The bass player in the Hash Brown video is Drew Allain
BTG, I gonna make it out there in the summer most likely, and hopefully get to meet you.First time I ever heard of Hash Brown, he was blowing harp on Robert Ealeys' cd. I ordered a Hash Brown cd from Charlie Lange, and he was playing guitar T-Bone style. Collected more with him and ZuZu Bolin,& Sam Myers. Big fan since. I've heard he host a weekly jam.

[zappafrank]

Paul DeLay. What a talent, and undeniably an original voice in blues harmonica. And he always had a kind word and a GREAT sense of humor. I will really miss him around here...

I THINK his last recordings are the ones he made on the CD I'm on with him...Bott and Paid For----and the last time I got to play with him was the CD release party for that CD---he wanted to get together to have me listen to some Jimmy Dawkins stuff---that will never happen now---at least, not with Paul---

RIP, Mr. Delay

---this is a VERY BIG DEAL here in Portland----

ac

[safecracker]

Hey Shawn, that is super nice to hear!----Just make sure you are not actually listening to the cuts that Suburban Slim and Marco Savo are playing on----because THOSE guys scare me!!--

Really man---thanks a lot for the kudos---:BEER

ac
I just heard about Paul Delay. I'm sad to hear it. AC, my favorite cut of you on the Jimi Bott is you playing the stylings of Michael Mann, AKA Hollywood Fats on My First Crime by Icepick James,The Motel King. Shawn

[S.W.Erdnase]

That is too, too sad, He was a terrific songwriter and had some truly unique phrasing on the harp. Too sad for words.

[aja]

Whoa thats messed up news about Paul Delay. I just got Nice and Strong
from a friend last week.

Poppa we did that mod last night and I was wondering if your strat has
a volume drop on the two and four positions with the second tone knob
all the way down.

[pete kanaras]

i was backstage at the hummel/wilson/musslewhite show here in bawlmer last night and all those guys were very upset by paul's death. mark dedicated his set to paul and gave a very moving tribute to his friend. i could'nt stay all night but i'm sure charlie and kim did the same. what a total shock, so sudden. he died from complications stemming from advanced lukemia. according to mark paul had NO idea he had the disease, he felt totally fine. they had spoken just a few days before. the doctor diagnosed him on monday and by wednesday he was gone, bang. jesus....

[Stringmaster]

Sad news about Paul. I'd like to pick up some of his music--any recs?

[Dave Orban]

Sad news about Paul. I'd like to pick up some of his music--any recs?"DeLay Does Chicago" and "Nice And Strong" are my two favorites.

I still can't believe that he's gone.

[Strat-O]

Jeez Pete, that's crazy. Man, things like this remind you how fleeting life is.

[Dave Orban]

i was backstage at the hummel/wilson/musslewhite show here in bawlmer last night and all those guys were very upset by paul's death. mark dedicated his set to paul and gave a very moving tribute to his friend. i could'nt stay all night but i'm sure charlie and kim did the same. what a total shock, so sudden. he died from complications stemming from advanced lukemia. according to mark paul had NO idea he had the disease, he felt totally fine. they had spoken just a few days before. the doctor diagnosed him on monday and by wednesday he was gone, bang. jesus....
Unbelievable. So sad.

[nc slim]

Delay was great as Sam Myers would say "Its A SAd Sad Day" Paulzilla was a great record find Chalk and Roll.

[Shades]

I heard late last night. I had just met him at the Marco benefit a while back, didn't get a chance to really get to know him. Great talent.

[mikelaw]

such a loss... ashame. he could really work that big harp on ya too!

[alnico2]

Saw him about a year and a half ago it was a great summer night. Paul and his band were on that evening. RIP Paul.

[TwoFeets]

Anyone here play a Epi Riviera? I played one for the first time over the weekend and really dug it.


Old one, current Korean issue, or Elitist?

I didn't realize they'd made a Korean Riviera with mini-hums, but there's one up on Ebay right now. I thought the Korean ones were all full-size humbuckers, and the mini-hums were on the Elitists.

I haven't played a Riviera but I've played other archies including Broadways with mini-hums in them and they all sound great.

[Strat-O]

Man, its like all my flippin' guitars are falling apart. The nut busted loose on my Tele at a gig a couple of weeks ago. The magnet fell off the neck pickup on my P90's on my 'Jump with Me' Strat last month and the repair guys didn't fix it back right. Yesterday the bridge pickup on my H62 busted loose and now its flopping around and making weird noises. Nothing but problems.
:BITCH

[RickyKing]

:mad:Don't feel bad you ain't alone.
My great relic tele w/Warmoth neck is now unplayable due to a truss rod defect from the factory. This is not the 1st time I have heard about Warmoth
problems...and they ain't gonna honor any warranty..We'll see what USCG or
All Parts is like,but Warmoth=Never again! Don't recomend them!!:mad:

[TwoFeets]

:mad:Don't feel bad you ain't alone.
My great relic tele w/Warmoth neck is now unplayable due to a truss rod defect from the factory. This is not the 1st time I have heard about Warmoth
problems...and they ain't gonna honor any warranty..We'll see what USCG or
All Parts is like,but Warmoth=Never again! Don't recomend them!!:mad:

My ES350 is back at Gibson Repair because the Tone Pros Klusons they put on it after the initial job are defective, either the gear material is too soft or improperly cut because they bind something fierce under string tension. The Esquire project I just bought has a series of issues I need to take care of also. I'm a one guitar guy at the moment. Whatever will I do?

[dukeh62]

:mad:Don't feel bad you ain't alone.
My great relic tele w/Warmoth neck is now unplayable due to a truss rod defect from the factory. This is not the 1st time I have heard about Warmoth
problems...and they ain't gonna honor any warranty..We'll see what USCG or
All Parts is like,but Warmoth=Never again! Don't recomend them!!:mad:

Ricky...I currently have two USACG necks and one of their bodies. Although I purchased all three second-hand, I can tell you that the quality and tone of all three are fantastic. I did talk to Tommy over at USACG a while back, and he was very accommodating. Only reason I didn't purchase new was b/c I came across these other killer deals.

[Strat-O]

Well, I feel better already. Seemed like everything was just turning into a big pile of dung for me...struggling to keep at least two guitars functioning.

:jo

[pete kanaras]

whatever will i do?

take it from me and order your stuff from tommy at usa custom from now on. take it as a lesson learned. he is simply the best in the business imho. he's an ex-warmoth guy who started up his own thing. my new alder tele body from him i spec'd out to be 4lbs maximum and he came through for me at 3 lbs 5.67 ounces! that is just freakishly lght for alder, and the workmanship is second to none. his necks are the bomb as well. so many nice little touches, like curving his fret slots. simply the best. man, i'm sitting on seven semi-finished warmoth bodies here. and they've been sitting simply because warmoth refuses to take our neck specs. one phone call to tommy and problem solved. again, tommy is the the best!

[KBR]

Yo Pete,
That's a Great Alder weight, Bro!
I use Warmoth sometimes, but Tommy Rules, no question.

[Thinsocks]

whatever will i do?

take it from me and order your stuff from tommy at usa custom from now on. take it as a lesson learned. he is simply the best in the business imho. he's an ex-warmoth guy who started up his own thing. my new alder tele body from him i spec'd out to be 4lbs maximum and he came through for me at 3 lbs 5.67 ounces! that is just freakishly lght for alder, and the workmanship is second to none. his necks are the bomb as well. so many nice little touches, like curving his fret slots. simply the best. man, i'm sitting on seven semi-finished warmoth bodies here. and they've been sitting simply because warmoth refuses to take our neck specs. one phone call to tommy and problem solved. again, tommy is the the best!

+1. I agree. The USA Custom necks Tele necks I ordered are far better then Warmoth's. Better service too.

[Poppa Stoppa]

Poppa we did that mod last night and I was wondering if your strat has a volume drop on the two and four positions with the second tone knob all the way down.aja - yes there is a volume drop on positions two and four if you roll the blend all the way down. That's because the output of the two pickups is about equal and opposite so they cancel each other out. It would be louder if the pickups were in series but in this mod the o-o-p is in parallel.

However if you just blend a little of the out-of-phase in you get a strong signal, hardly different from normal, with that distinct o-o-p twang.

All four extra tones on mine sound fantastic, especially the two pickups in-series on positions one and five. I can't believe how fat and toneful those sound.

[Strat-O]

whatever will i do?

Well Goober here ought to learn how to fix his own stuff. Then I wouldn't have to rely on techs so much and spend so much $$ on repair/maintenance work.

[Strat-O]

Check out the "Chicago Vintage Series" speaker link...

https://taweber.powweb.com/weber/

[Short Bus]

Speaking of guitar woes, I just put a set of Duncan Antiquitys in my Jay Turser 175 copy. Holy cow! What a sound! My Deluxe Reverb is still in the shop so I'm playing it through a Hot Rod Deluxe at the moment. And the tone is so friggin' huge. Almost too huge for this amp.

Anyway, I pulled it out of the case over the weekend and the p/u covers are rusting?! After only 2 months? Am I missing something? Should this be happening? Any recommendations on fixes?

[mikelaw]

aja - yes there is a volume drop on positions two and four if you roll the blend all the way down. That's because the output of the two pickups is about equal and opposite so they cancel each other out. It would be louder if the pickups were in series but in this mod the o-o-p is in parallel.

However if you just blend a little of the out-of-phase in you get a strong signal, hardly different from normal, with that distinct o-o-p twang.

All four extra tones on mine sound fantastic, especially the two pickups in-series on positions one and five. I can't believe how fat and toneful those sound.

you are dead on poppa. i was the one that did the mod for alec. I noticed the in series 1 and 5 are insanely sick tone for a strat. makes me want to do mine just for those positions!

[mikelaw]

imagine being able to do all 3 pu's in series! that would be nutty ballz to the wallz. fat, bright. alecs strat now HAS IT ALL.

[GOLDENSTRAT]

I have the blender pot mod on one strat and find that with the blender pot on 10, I lose too many highs so I tend to run it at 5 - 6, full but rich. fred

[zappafrank]

I just heard about Paul Delay. I'm sad to hear it. AC, my favorite cut of you on the Jimi Bott is you playing the stylings of Michael Mann, AKA Hollywood Fats on My First Crime by Icepick James,The Motel King. Shawn

Man, you are the first person to tell me that is their fave cut---THANKS!-

--I cannot 'blaze' like Suburban Slim and Marco Savo, so to hear someone digging my thing a bit more than what those 2 monsters are laying down is a nice 'ego-stroke' once in awhile---I did try to play as fiery as I could on that cut, without sounding like a 'just a bunch of licks run together but not saying anything'---hopefully, others might hear that, too---and you are totally right about the Fat's 'connection'---he is at the very top of my fave blues/swing players list, period. If you can hear the influence there, then I've done my job, I think...

Thanks again, Shawn---made my day---now, I'll go see S. Slim with the Strangetones tonite and get knocked on my arse again---it's good for the humility factor!! (S.Slim has won "Best Electric Guitar" by the Cascade Blues Association membership for the past 2 years--and deservedly so---plus, he can SING real fine---)

thanks again-

ac

[safecracker]

Man, you are the first person to tell me that is their fave cut---THANKS!-

--I cannot 'blaze' like Suburban Slim and Marco Savo, so to hear someone digging my thing a bit more than what those 2 monsters are laying down is a nice 'ego-stroke' once in awhile---I did try to play as fiery as I could on that cut, without sounding like a 'just a bunch of licks run together but not saying anything'---hopefully, others might hear that, too---and you are totally right about the Fat's 'connection'---he is at the very top of my fave blues/swing players list, period. If you can hear the influence there, then I've done my job, I think...

Thanks again, Shawn---made my day---now, I'll go see S. Slim with the Strangetones tonite and get knocked on my arse again---it's good for the humility factor!! (S.Slim has won "Best Electric Guitar" by the Cascade Blues Association membership for the past 2 years--and deservedly so---plus, he can SING real fine---)

thanks again-

ac
AC your welcome. Much deserved. That whole cd, and the first one is great. I'm working on putting my own band thing together. I fronted one 7 years ago for a while but ever since I just sit in with friends bands and go to blues jams. I'm ready to start back up again after going to Memphis last month for the IBC. That trip awoke the sleeping beast in me. I sat in at two different after hours jams. There is a clip on youtube of my harp playing (shameless plug I know,but hey, it's all I got..lol...) Ryan Hartt graciously let me honk thru his Bassman. He and Duke are great guys w/ a great band. I don't know how to post the link, but you can go to youtube, key in vincent hayes & sean carney. It's the Blue City Cafe clip that is 2.52 min. I had a blast there. Shawn

[jetlag]

Check out the "Chicago Vintage Series" speaker link...

https://taweber.powweb.com/weber/

Strato - those look extremely promising. As you may have noticed, I do not show a lot of love for certain weber speakers that I've tried. However, from first hand experience I know that when weber softens and preages their stuff, they sound great. Add to that paper voice coil formers etc etc, and they should be onto something. Those look like nice P10R and CTS alnico copies. About time. It was ridiculous spending so much money for essentially just a rusty frame (when buying old jensens). Then still having to pay to recone it. But that was about the only option. Now it looks like weber has stepped up to the plate. Let's hope 12's, 15's, and P10Qs soon follow. All of this also means good recone kits to be more commonly available too.

[Poppa Stoppa]

Speaking of guitar woes, I just put a set of Duncan Antiquitys in my Jay Turser 175 copy. Holy cow! What a sound! My Deluxe Reverb is still in the shop so I'm playing it through a Hot Rod Deluxe at the moment. And the tone is so friggin' huge. Almost too huge for this amp.

Anyway, I pulled it out of the case over the weekend and the p/u covers are rusting?! After only 2 months? Am I missing something? Should this be happening? Any recommendations on fixes?The only time I heard of this is on older Gibsons - what happens is the pickguard plastic starts decomposing and gives off a gas inside the case that corrodes all the plating as though it's been dunked in seawater. I saw it on a friend's late 60's ES345 and we didn't know what the hell was going on at first. Dunno if that's what's happening with your new 175 but it could be worth checking out!

[pete kanaras]

Strato - those look extremely promising.

indeed!

[Short Bus]

The only time I heard of this is on older Gibsons - what happens is the pickguard plastic starts decomposing and gives off a gas inside the case that corrodes all the plating as though it's been dunked in seawater. I saw it on a friend's late 60's ES345 and we didn't know what the hell was going on at first. Dunno if that's what's happening with your new 175 but it could be worth checking out!

Wow. Would've never thought that. Especially with the guitar being just a few years old. I noticed that when they came out of the box originally, it appeared that they hadn't been polished. There seemed to be fingerprints and smudges on them. I wiped them with a dry towel, but that didn't make much of a difference. Unless I wiped off the protective layer. Have to do some more research.

Thanks Poppa!

[Short Bus]

Totally way off topic I know.

But I just saw a performance on TV of Stevie Wonder's from the BBC called A Night of Wonder. What an amazing band! To see 10 musician's and vocalists onstage recreating his stuff and taking it farther than the record was mindblowing! It's been running on VH1 Classic in the States and I'm sure on the BBC as well. It may not be your cup of tea, but wow.

[RickyKing]

Esquire,
Nice to see you @ the gig yesterday...cool place could have used a few more in audience. If you ever come up my way sometime lets get together.

[pete kanaras]

Have to do some more research.

it's called outgassing. very common problem with early plastics of all types, and it still happens today with certain plastics. like the plastic used in some bottled water utilized by unscrupulous types, but we won't get into that here...

[TwoFeets]

The aging process Duncan uses for those nickel-silver Antiquity pickup covers probably has something to do with it. Maybe they didn't neutralize the chemical agents they use for the aging process 100% and you're seeing the continuation of that aging process. I'm sure, though, that the aging process itself strips away whatever protection there was on the pickups to begin with and that's why they age so quickly. If the pickup looked like it had been played a lot and had fingerprints and all that on it, that's the way they come from the factory. They are "relic" pickups, after all.

Another culprit for the "outgassing" is the surgical tubing that is often used as height adjusters for pickups.

[straightblues]

Just thought I'd share -

I modded my Gibson 335 (actually a 333 with everything changed out). I realized that what I've grown up listening to is 345s/355s with the Varitone knob. Now, most guys never touched the switch, but the #1 position is nothing like a real bypass - it's still filtering out volume and mids. It's only recently that Gibson makes Varitones with a bypass position, and they aren't voiced like the old ones anyway.

Here's my solution based on looking at schematics:

100k ohm resistor between the pickup switch and the output jack
.001 capacitor and 1.5 H choke between the output jack hot and ground.

For the choke, I used the primary coil of a Mouser mini-transformer.

Voila! No longer does my 335 sound like Larry Carlton and Cream's Farewell Concert - now it's B.B. at the Regal and Freddy at The!!!Beat all the way. I'd recommend trying it with any bucker guitar that's too
"rock" (maybe set up with a push/pull switch if you need the original sound).

335s are for session guys. 345s and 355s are for bluesmen.


Has anyone tried this mod. I was trying to figure out how to do the choke thing and can't. Does anyone have a drawing of this mod or know exactely what mini-transformer he used from Mouser? I put out an email the MonsterMike and haven't heard back. Any help would be appreciated. Please shoot me a PM or emial if you can help or just share it here.

[monstermike]

I've had a couple of PMs/emails about this, but my life has been insane recently, and I haven't gotten around to drawing something up.

The transformer is 42TL021-RC from Mouser. There should be three short leads coming from each side, and one side is marked "P" for primary. You want the outer leads on the primary side, so cut the middle lead on the "P" side and all three leads on the other side. Solder an .001uf cap between the hot tab on the output jack and one lead on the transformer. Solder the other lead on the transformer to the ground of the output jack. You'll probably need to splice more wire to the transformer leads - it's designed to be PCB-mounted.

I now far prefer this mod without the resistor in line - I'm not sure I was reading the schematic right anyway, and I've heard that the resistance was mostly to keep that big switch from popping. If you want to try the resistor, unsolder the wire from the output jack hot to the pickup switch, and solder a 100k ohm resistor in line between that wire and the jack.

[Short Bus]

Have to do some more research.

it's called outgassing. very common problem with early plastics of all types, and it still happens today with certain plastics. like the plastic used in some bottled water utilized by unscrupulous types, but we won't get into that here...

You mean some Chinese manufacturers might use inferior parts? Wot da hek?!

[Short Bus]

The aging process Duncan uses for those nickel-silver Antiquity pickup covers probably has something to do with it. Maybe they didn't neutralize the chemical agents they use for the aging process 100% and you're seeing the continuation of that aging process. I'm sure, though, that the aging process itself strips away whatever protection there was on the pickups to begin with and that's why they age so quickly. If the pickup looked like it had been played a lot and had fingerprints and all that on it, that's the way they come from the factory. They are "relic" pickups, after all.

Another culprit for the "outgassing" is the surgical tubing that is often used as height adjusters for pickups.

As I was writing that I thought some type of aging process and it not being neutralized. I'll have to take the covers off and try water or baking soda. Then take a look at the plastics. They came with black plastic surrounds, but the that didn't look right with the other beige pieces and the cherry red sunburst finish. Might have to replace those.

Thanks for the help guys!

[TwoFeets]

As I was writing that I thought some type of aging process and it not being neutralized. I'll have to take the covers off and try water or baking soda. Then take a look at the plastics. They came with black plastic surrounds, but the that didn't look right with the other beige pieces and the cherry red sunburst finish. Might have to replace those.

Thanks for the help guys!

Just put some P90's in that thing already and be done with it!

:dude

[Short Bus]

Just put some P90's in that thing already and be done with it!

:dude

Louder! Louder!

:Devil

[Esquire]

Esquire,
Nice to see you @ the gig yesterday...cool place could have used a few more in audience. If you ever come up my way sometime lets get together.

Rick,

It was great talking with you yesterday. That was a good show. Looked like you guys were having a good time regardless of the attendance. I'll keep checking your schedule and make a point to catch one of your up coming shows. Feel free to drop me a line anytime.

[Scott Miller]

I heard a few songs from Sean Carney at Freund's jam on Tuesday, but I somehow managed to miss two Sean Carney shows this weekend. OK, Friday I had to see George Clinton at the Fillmore... I have tasted the maggots in the mind of the universe... and Saturday I had a gig. Hopefully I'll see him on Wednesday. I liked what I saw. Nice big fat P-90 175. I REALLY liked his drummer; totally cooking at a low volume.

[straightblues]

I've had a couple of PMs/emails about this, but my life has been insane recently, and I haven't gotten around to drawing something up.

The transformer is 42TL021-RC from Mouser. There should be three short leads coming from each side, and one side is marked "P" for primary. You want the outer leads on the primary side, so cut the middle lead on the "P" side and all three leads on the other side. Solder an .001uf cap between the hot tab on the output jack and one lead on the transformer. Solder the other lead on the transformer to the ground of the output jack. You'll probably need to splice more wire to the transformer leads - it's designed to be PCB-mounted.

I now far prefer this mod without the resistor in line - I'm not sure I was reading the schematic right anyway, and I've heard that the resistance was mostly to keep that big switch from popping. If you want to try the resistor, unsolder the wire from the output jack hot to the pickup switch, and solder a 100k ohm resistor in line between that wire and the jack.

Thanks a lot for the input Mike. I am going to try it. I will report back here.

[Strat-O]

http://www.mc-records.com/html/rick_holmstrom.html

And apparently, Kim Wilson has another solo disc coming out on MC this year too.

[aja]

1. That strat is awesome I especially like 5 position with the tone rolled all
the way off. And the rest is awesome I can't wait to test it out on a show
with some volume.

2.I saw Billy watson in San diego who was awesome. Great shuffle drummer.
And Nathan James sat in (winner of the int'l blues comp.) I didn't even know
who he was and he blew me away West Coast for sure !

[straightblues]

Nathan James is GREAT. He is amazing player. He may even be at his best on an acoustic guitar. I saw him play a set with a 12 string acoustic tuned down low that really shook my world. The sounds he got out of that guitar were unworldly. I ran out after the show to get a 12 string. Still haven't be able to get anywhere near the sounds he did, LOL.

He toured with James Harman at 18 or 19. I really like to hear him when he sits in with other bands. He sat in with lots of Harmonic greats at the annual day before Thanksgiving Harmonica Blow Down two years back and was outstanding. (This past year Rick Holmstrom did it so that shows you the caliber of player he is.) The event featured Johny Dyer, Rod Piazza, James Harman, Juke Logan and many others. He plays with Jamie Wood Band as well as several others.

If you get a chance to see Nathan, do it you will be in for a real treat. He in my opinion is the best young West Coast and Country blues player on the Southern California scene by a long margin.

[free_jazz]

2.I saw Billy watson in San diego who was awesome. Great shuffle drummer.
And Nathan James sat in (winner of the int'l blues comp.) I didn't even know
who he was and he blew me away West Coast for sure !

Billy's a joy to watch. He really digs performing. I asked him once about his favorite session guitarist and after a brief pause, he said Nathan James. I've seen Nathan once (duo with Ben Hernandez, the IBC act) -- creative rhythm chops and time, very good with the thumbpick -- on a "Sanatoga" (Japanese?) hollow-body.

[aja]

He was electric the night I saw him. He had something with P-90's with a
tweed amp. Great crowd their that night. I was at the Gordon Biersch
Brewery.Ever been ?

[Poppa Stoppa]

1. That strat is awesome I especially like 5 position with the tone rolled all
the way off. And the rest is awesome I can't wait to test it out on a show
with some volume.Cool ! I am sure you will get people asking how you get those tones.

2.I saw Billy watson in San diego who was awesome. Great shuffle drummer. And Nathan James sat in (winner of the int'l blues comp.) I didn't even know who he was and he blew me away West Coast for sure !He plays great and gets a fat tone on this vid dddelta put up on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkqhnqTcqVs
Anybody know what that guitar is he's using there? Is it an Epiphone Casino? It's in Spain so I wondered if they hired a new one or if it's one of Nathan's own guitars from the States.

[free_jazz]

He was electric the night I saw him. He had something with P-90's with a
tweed amp. Great crowd their that night. I was at the Gordon Biersch
Brewery.Ever been ?

I haven't had the pleasure of hearing Nathan on P90's. What was his tone like? Have yet to catch a gig at GBB, but I see Billy's due for a return visit.

[aja]

It was like all the west coasters. Fats, Schultz, Watson etc. etc. Fat and
tweedy. I might have a pic.

[aja]

Ok I put a pic on my myspace page, its not working on here. Its on the last
page of my pics. It looks like its a les paul junior lite. But its not a gibson.

[valcotone]

He plays great and gets a fat tone on this vid dddelta put up on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkqhnqTcqVs
Anybody know what that guitar is he's using there? Is it an Epiphone Casino? It's in Spain so I wondered if they hired a new one or if it's one of Nathan's own guitars from the States.


I think it looks like a new Epiphone Casino... maybe an Elitist model? It also looks like the pickup covers have been swapped for black plastic, or it could be the lighting. There's a closeup of the headstock at 43 seconds into this clip of Junior's solo from the same song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKmaLGsplm4

[valcotone]

There's a killer new Rick Holmstrom / Zach Zunis clip from over 16 years ago with the William Clarke band on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXzZzD5aEJw

[Dave Orban]

I just LOVE this thread...! :dude :dude :dude

[Dave Orban]

Here's Igor Prado, burnin' up that lefty H62 again...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjGBZdwp5Rk

...and on a Tele...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu8KU3lNIYc&mode=related&search=

[dukeh62]

Hey all you guys using vintage Fender reverb tanks...or any tanks for that matter

Do any of you notice a little more buzz coming out of the unit when you have a footswitch plugged into it?

[valcotone]

Hey all you guys using vintage Fender reverb tanks...or any tanks for that matter

Do any of you notice a little more buzz coming out of the unit when you have a footswitch plugged into it?

Huh? Why would you want to turn off the reverb? Me not understand. :jo

Seriously though, I've never plugged a footswitch into my '64.

[Thinsocks]

There's a killer new Rick Holmstrom / Zach Zunis clip from over 16 years ago with the William Clarke band on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXzZzD5aEJw

I have this whole show on VHS. It's from a gig when they opened for Junior Wells. That's Buddy Clark on bass and not Willie Brinlee.

[TwoFeets]

Hey all you guys using vintage Fender reverb tanks...or any tanks for that matter

Do any of you notice a little more buzz coming out of the unit when you have a footswitch plugged into it?

Only a little? Sometimes I get lots, depending on the guitar and/or the venue.

[valcotone]

Here's another verb-based question... do you guys use a 2-conductor cords on your reverb units to avoid 60-cycle hum caused by ground loops? I found the system is much quieter if I do this. If both the amp and reverb unit have 3-prong grounded cords it gets noisy.

[GOLDENSTRAT]

HELP, I just got a big gig in 2 weeks- first rehearsal tomorrow and have just one question I (right now) - what are "ice cream changes" a 6-2-5? thanks, fred

[GOLDENSTRAT]

Thanks, I think i found out, 1-6-4-5 , like " Since I fell for you" ? fred

[Scott Miller]

"ice cream changes"
I, vi, IV, V7
"Heart and Soul" "Duke of Earl" Pachelbel's Canon (?)
Beware of Sleepwalk, which uses a minor four. I think.

[dddelta]

This looks like a great idea for the mighty Pro Junior!!

http://www.tonedog.com/fender_pro_junior_mods.html

[groove_king]

Here's Igor Prado, burnin' up that lefty H62 again...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjGBZdwp5Rk

...and on a Tele...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu8KU3lNIYc&mode=related&search=

I sold him that H62! :jo

Damn, he can play. I never get tired of that clip!!!!

[mikelaw]

yea eric, 2 or 3 amps/tanks/pedals going will hum bigtime. hardware shop has small 3 prong to 2 prong adapters. throw one on the tank. think of it like a chain...by grounding the 2nd amp/tank as well as grounding your pedals..etc...youre creating all these ground loops. when only 1 is needed. im sure holmstrom has run into this issue with his slave amp, echotank,and small combo hes been running...i bet he can help you understand it better!

[mikelaw]

better yet, put your amp/tank and pedals all onto a power strip into the wall!

ill bring you the adapter tomorrow if you want? let me know

[Schwalbe]

Get a Hum-X, much much safer than lifting the ground.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ebtech-Hum-X-Hum-Exterminator?sku=150452
I'd hate to see one of my new favorite guitar players get 'lectrocuted.
Or go here and check the middle of the page.
http://home.everestkc.net/jgehring/revibe1-4.html
This shows the little board that has the 16 ohm resistor and two diodes all in parallel. One side of the parallel combination goes to the chassis steel, and the other side goes to the isolated ground buss. The 16 ohm resistor adds the resistance needed to minimize the ground loop hum, while the diodes (one with cathode to the chassis ground side, and the other with its anode towards the chassis ground side) prevent the potential between the isolated ground buss and the chassis from ever exceeding one diode forward voltage drop (0.7V). I also have a 0.047uF capacitor that is electrically in parallel with these, but it is mounted from the sleeve lug on the input jack to chassis steel by the input, to decouple any RF trash that may show up on the isolated ground buss. I added it later, and it doesn't show up in many of the pictures, so here is a photo of how that cap was mounted:I've got a similar device built into my new Tore Vibe. I think I used 3 amp diodes IIRC.

[groove_king]

I've got a similar device built into my new Tore Vibe. I think I used 3 amp diodes IIRC.

What do you think of the Tore-Vibe? I was gonna build the plain 'ol Reverb Tank, but would prefer to have the trem included. Did you build it yourself?

[Schwalbe]

What do you think of the Tore-Vibe? I was gonna build the plain 'ol Reverb Tank, but would prefer to have the trem included. Did you build it yourself?Yeah built it myself. It's a good sounding unit, the build is a real MFer though, lots of stuff to stuff in that damn small chassis. A while back I turned down building a ReVibe for Ross cause it looks like such a tough go. The Tore's a little easier I'm guessing. Still, I've probably got maybe 15 to 20 hours into the build. But then I get f'in overly meticulous about lead dress and sh*t.
The reverb is a little spikey (spikie?). The FMIC reissue has a 1K5 resistor between the dwell and the grid of the second stage, seemed like a good idea to limit how hard the reverb gets hit so I tried it. The spikeyness (sp?:jo ) is reduced some and the verb sounds just fine. Raising the trem intensity effects the overall output, reducing it. Tore suggested trying a dual pot there with the extra pot in series with R21 which pads the input to the final stage. I've got the pot on order, I'll let ya know how it works out. Meantime I've up'ed R21 from 15K to 27K. That makes a real difference when the trem is on 7 or 8 but with the intensity all the way down the output is a bit hot.

Here's some pics.
http://s157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/mytorevibe/

It really gets to be a rats nest in there:
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/mytorevibe/DSCN1267-1.jpg

[nmontz]

Maybe you have all seen this....

but if you haven't, check out the streaming radio player on the bottom of the page. I'm digging the jazz and the funky stuff, and there are some tracks off of "think about it"

http://alexschultz.com/

[groove_king]

Dan,

Thanks for the pics. Wow, it is a rat's nest in there. Very neat wiring though. Looks great.

I was a bit put off the Revibe because that seemed very tricky, the Tore-Vibe looked like an easier build. I've only done a 5F2A Princeton so I might do a couple more amps (5E3 Deluxe and 5E5A Pro) before I tackle the Revibe/Tore-Vibe.

Do you have any sound clips of it in action? :)

[Poppa Stoppa]

Maybe you have all seen this....

but if you haven't, check out the streaming radio player on the bottom of the page. I'm digging the jazz and the funky stuff, and there are some tracks off of "think about it"

http://alexschultz.com/
Ahhh that's great stuff, I hadn't seen that, thanks.

Skilback - thanks for the link to that Holmstrom/Zunis swing clip! It's from around the same time as the Alligator launch party in the record shop by the looks of it (speaking of which, Alex Schultz really brings that to the boil when he sits in).

[jetlag]

Get a Hum-X, much much safer than lifting the ground.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ebtech-Hum-X-Hum-Exterminator?sku=150452
I'd hate to see one of my new favorite guitar players get 'lectrocuted.
Or go here and check the middle of the page.
http://home.everestkc.net/jgehring/revibe1-4.html
I've got a similar device built into my new Tore Vibe. I think I used 3 amp diodes IIRC.

The second and third links there are from the guy here in KC that I use for an amp tech. Jeff is a very competent and talented tech/craftsman. This mod works well. But I believe you need to have all your jacks insulated/isolated from the chassis for it to work. After saying that, I confess that my old verb is still two prong and hum free in my rig. Then again, I also use an Uncle Spot which is three prong and it doesn't seem to add hum either. I'll have to open it up sometime and see what's in there. I think some of the reason I don't have many problems is that my signal is going thru the 'verb, then thru an A-B box (w/isolation xfmrs) before it hits the amps' inputs. I'll have to try the reverb unit this weekend with the pedal and see if it changes the hum.

[jetlag]

Maybe you have all seen this....

but if you haven't, check out the streaming radio player on the bottom of the page. I'm digging the jazz and the funky stuff, and there are some tracks off of "think about it"

http://alexschultz.com/

Noel, that's cool. Thanks! Man, it's a link-o-rama around here right now. It'll take awhile to check it all out. But thanks guys.

[Scott Miller]

"...I cannot 'blaze' like Suburban Slim and Marco Savo..."

I somehow managed to figure out how to blaze, and, trust me, it's a LOT harder to put down a simple yet effective statement. WAY harder. The more you can blaze, the harder it gets, because, let's face it, "blazey-blazey-blazey" makes the crowd go "Whoop whoop whoop!" which is hard to resist.

[Strat-O]

Man, you said it all right there.

So, I got an old P15N that was recently reconed. It doesn't sound all hi-fi, the sensitivity/volume thing sounds right for an old speaker. But, the tone is really stiff and not so lively. I don't know much about reconed vintage speakers...is this a matter of just breaking the thing in?

[valcotone]

hi guys -

I thought I'd share this short clip of me playing the modded H44 at a blues jam from Tuesday. This is the bridge pickup straight into my 3x10 tweed bandmaster clone. Hope you like it.

http://www.kilback.net/tunes/h44bridgejam.wmv

[Poppa Stoppa]

Sean - you're up late! Or is that early? That's a GREAT tone you got there!

[Poppa Stoppa]

Gimme a couple of whatever Little Henry's on:
http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=W9OvSrvwLqE&mode=related&search

[Dave Orban]

hi guys -

I thought I'd share this short clip of me playing the modded H44 at a blues jam from Tuesday. This is the bridge pickup straight into my 3x10 tweed bandmaster clone. Hope you like it.

http://www.kilback.net/tunes/h44bridgejam.wmvCool! :dude

[Strat-O]

Sean - Its rough when you put something like that up and don't much response. Cool tone and licks man!

[straightblues]

hi guys -

I thought I'd share this short clip of me playing the modded H44 at a blues jam from Tuesday. This is the bridge pickup straight into my 3x10 tweed bandmaster clone. Hope you like it.

http://www.kilback.net/tunes/h44bridgejam.wmv
Nice tone. I just got a Bandmaster clone that I am dialing in. Yours sounds really nice. Where was your volume set and how were you running the other knobs?

[valcotone]

Thanks for the feedback guys...

Straightblues - I built this amp chassis based on the 5E7 Bandmaster but it's got some tweaks. It's a single channel with no 220K mixing resistor after the volume control, and a 23.5pF bright cap (two 47pF's in series). There's a 5751 in the first tube socket. It's also got a Pre-PI master volume believe it or not.

I think the amp was set: volume=4/12, master=10/12, treble=9/12, bass=7/12, presence=5/12.

Keep in mind that the 9K H44 dearmond bridge pup has quite a lot of push to it.

[groove_king]

Hey Sean

Nice job man! Yeah fill us in on some details about your Bandmaster (settings, tubes, etc.) and you'll have to remind me what you did to your H44. Very nice tone - spanky yet still has a lot of girth. Sounded like you were fingerpicking too. I love fingerpicking with that sort of tone.

How does the neck pup sound? Got any clips?

[groove_king]

Lol! It's like you're reading my mind!!!

Thanks for that. I've got a pair of NOS 5751s in my Bandmaster and it really bought the amp to life. It makes it respond more like an old amp, IMO.

[mikelaw]

Gimme a couple of whatever Little Henry's on:
http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=W9OvSrvwLqE&mode=related&search

if ya cant take the heat, get out the kitchen homes! lil H KILLS it on that clip.

thats what i call.....

FIAHHHHHHHHHHH

[Dave Orban]

if ya cant take the heat, get out the kitchen homes! lil H KILLS it on that clip.

thats what i call.....

FIAHHHHHHHHHHH
Ya think...?!? :dude

Still, I wish he still had his P90 175... ;)

[RickyKing]

Hey,I dig it Skil!

[valcotone]

Gimme a couple of whatever Little Henry's on:
http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=W9OvSrvwLqE&mode=related&search




Double DAMN!!! :crazy

[valcotone]

Hey Sean

Nice job man! Yeah fill us in on some details about your Bandmaster (settings, tubes, etc.) and you'll have to remind me what you did to your H44. Very nice tone - spanky yet still has a lot of girth. Sounded like you were fingerpicking too. I love fingerpicking with that sort of tone.


Fingerpicking, yes. Thanks GK, much appreciated! The duo-H44 has a rewound DeArmond Gold-Tone added as a bridge pickup, 3-way switch and 500K pots.


How does the neck pup sound? Got any clips?I wasn't going to post this here, but what the hell... from our first gig in December last year here's a different H44 but the same amp at the same venue on a different night... neck pickup only in this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZDdQlk9um4

[TwoFeets]

hi guys -

I thought I'd share this short clip of me playing the modded H44 at a blues jam from Tuesday. This is the bridge pickup straight into my 3x10 tweed bandmaster clone. Hope you like it.

http://www.kilback.net/tunes/h44bridgejam.wmv

Very nice!

[musicofanatic5]

Just got home from seeing Hummel's travelling ho'monica circus at a little hippie club in New Hampshire. It's almost too much harp! Hummel is great, Charlie seems right at home in his role as "elder statesman", but Wilson is just a fire-breathing monster! I've seen his show from the back of the stage (while operating heavy equipment) plenty of times, but to just sit in the audience and be devastated by his muscular but musical onslaught was a thrill! They encored with the h'monica trio, just the three of 'em: Wilson singing and playing the rhythm in the middle, Hummel playing up top, and Charlie killing with some low-tuned harp on the bottom! Cool hearing Rasta Rusty and Bob Welch, as well as Steve and Marty in the rhythm section. Got in a little hang with the fellas before the show, too. Lotsa "outta the woodwork" types making a rare appearance to see the show ("Hey, I haven't seen you since...how long's it been?..."); lotsa rounds purchased. I hadda blast!
Sean: I've just got cheap dial-up, and don't the days required to load video, but you're getting some good response here. How could that combo sound anything but good!

[mikelaw]

yea jon, hartt,ducoff, dudack and myself went to the northampton show the night before. troy showed up and sat in too. it was some great times for sure.

and amen to the wilson comment. he really is one of the best in the world. end of story.

[jetlag]

I did one of those harp hell shows where Lee McBee and I (with Mark H's excellent band) opened. We were the sacrificial lamb so to speak. Hummel's set was great with both him and Charles W. on fire. Then Wilson came out and and just ................. leveled the place with one BIG fat long draw note. Just like described above - muscular but musical. A bunch of us were looking down shaking our heads and laughing all at the same time. I wish this show was coming to my neck o' the woods.

Oh, and yes, Sean's stuff sounds great! I didn't say anything because he had already emailed it to me prior to posting.

[Strat-O]

The closest it came to me was about 5 hours away. I probably should've gone.

The Victoria Regal II: Raw is an understatement. It does'nt the torn speaker deal with no problem. What a great amp. The tremelo is different from the Victorilux's too, more throb. Sounds like a washing machine that's spinning off balance. I think it sounds best with 6V6's, either one or two. When I tried it before, it was with 6L6's and i didn't really like that. The 6L6's just give a smoother more focused sound, it isn't bad, just not my thing. The only down side is the speaker and reverb. The Weber sounds really good, but the bottom end is a bit too much and its a little too lound and too warm. A vintage 15 sounds great in it though. The reverb could stand to be brighter, but as it is, its just classic Fender sounding reverb. The amp will pretty much do any recorded classic blues guitar tone from the 50's/60's with no problem.

[jetlag]

The Victoria Regal II: Raw is an understatement. It does'nt the torn speaker deal with no problem. What a great amp. The tremelo is different from the Victorilux's too, more throb. Sounds like a washing machine that's spinning off balance. I think it sounds best with 6V6's, either one or two. When I tried it before, it was with 6L6's and i didn't really like that. The 6L6's just give a smoother more focused sound, it isn't bad, just not my thing. The only down side is the speaker and reverb. The Weber sounds really good, but the bottom end is a bit too much and its a little too lound and too warm. A vintage 15 sounds great in it though. The reverb could stand to be brighter, but as it is, its just classic Fender sounding reverb. The amp will pretty much do any recorded classic blues guitar tone from the 50's/60's with no problem.

Chris, glad you were able to put one thru it's paces - much moreso than I. I appreciate the review. I thought the versatility with the tube thing was cool. I'd like to try one 6V6 and one 6L6 - maybe a lower powered old 6L6G coke bottle.

[valcotone]

Just got home from seeing Hummel's travelling ho'monica circus at a little hippie club in New Hampshire. It's almost too much harp! Hummel is great, Charlie seems right at home in his role as "elder statesman", but Wilson is just a fire-breathing monster! I've seen his show from the back of the stage (while operating heavy equipment) plenty of times, but to just sit in the audience and be devastated by his muscular but musical onslaught was a thrill! They encored with the h'monica trio, just the three of 'em: Wilson singing and playing the rhythm in the middle, Hummel playing up top, and Charlie killing with some low-tuned harp on the bottom! Cool hearing Rasta Rusty and Bob Welch, as well as Steve and Marty in the rhythm section. Got in a little hang with the fellas before the show, too. Lotsa "outta the woodwork" types making a rare appearance to see the show ("Hey, I haven't seen you since...how long's it been?..."); lotsa rounds purchased. I hadda blast!
Sean: I've just got cheap dial-up, and don't the days required to load video, but you're getting some good response here. How could that combo sound anything but good!


Thanks mf! These guys are talkin' and playin' on Sirius Blues satellite radio right now...

http://www.sirius.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=Sirius/CachedPage&c=Channel&cid=1104779639762

[jimfog]

Hey folks......I ended up getting a ridiculous deal on one of these:

http://www.gretschguitars.com/repository/gretsch/images/G5120_xl.jpg

http://www.gretschguitars.com/gear/index.php?product=G5120&cat1=&cat2=&q=&st=1

GREAT, great axe for low $$$.....not P-90's but very low wound Gretsch-bucker......it's got regular humbucker mounts, so I could go with Phat Cats or similiar....lots of options.....or I may go with a set of TV Jones at some point, but so far, so good.

Anybody jumpin and swingin their blues, Gretsch-styley??

Digging it!

- Jim

[Thinsocks]

Jimfog - Alex Shultz plays a Gretsch fairly often (I think it's a 50's Electromatic). He sat in once on a gig I was on and really kicked my @** all over the place with that guitar. Not that it was much of a contest anyway. ;)

[Dave Orban]

Hey folks......I ended up getting a ridiculous deal on one of these:

http://www.gretschguitars.com/repository/gretsch/images/G5120_xl.jpg

http://www.gretschguitars.com/gear/index.php?product=G5120&cat1=&cat2=&q=&st=1

GREAT, great axe for low $$$.....not P-90's but very low wound Gretsch-bucker......it's got regular humbucker mounts, so I could go with Phat Cats or similiar....lots of options.....or I may go with a set of TV Jones at some point, but so far, so good.

Anybody jumpin and swingin their blues, Gretsch-styley??

Digging it!

- JimI've seen Robillard swinging a recent Gretch from time to time...

Cool guitar, Jim!

I'd definitely be looking into some TV Jones, for sure...! :dude

[dukeh62]

Just got home from seeing Hummel's travelling ho'monica circus at a little hippie club in New Hampshire. It's almost too much harp! Hummel is great, Charlie seems right at home in his role as "elder statesman", but Wilson is just a fire-breathing monster! I've seen his show from the back of the stage (while operating heavy equipment) plenty of times, but to just sit in the audience and be devastated by his muscular but musical onslaught was a thrill! They encored with the h'monica trio, just the three of 'em: Wilson singing and playing the rhythm in the middle, Hummel playing up top, and Charlie killing with some low-tuned harp on the bottom! Cool hearing Rasta Rusty and Bob Welch, as well as Steve and Marty in the rhythm section. Got in a little hang with the fellas before the show, too. Lotsa "outta the woodwork" types making a rare appearance to see the show ("Hey, I haven't seen you since...how long's it been?..."); lotsa rounds purchased. I hadda blast!
Sean: I've just got cheap dial-up, and don't the days required to load video, but you're getting some good response here. How could that combo sound anything but good!

You're so right Jon. Wilson was just at the top of his game the other night. The room just came to life with his first note....a BIG note! Highlight for me was when he broke the band down to a whisper, then walked up to the second level of the club playing acoustically. Then he sang the last two verses halfway up the staircase. Hearing Wilson play and sing "in the room" was just as good as it gets.

[Birdseye]

Last few times I've seen Kim he ditched the mic and played acoustic for a long solo. Always had the whole crowd silenced...captivated...I know what y'all are sayin', he's just in his own league. How about playin' two parts at the same time? Damn...

I almost bought an old Gretsch a couple weeks ago, but it got sold before I jumped. Better that way in the end; now I've been selling off amps to fund this...the amp I've always wanted but never thought I'd find. This thing sounds amazing with every guitar it sees.

http://www.flatbrokebluesband.com/album/60bmaster.jpg

[Strat-O]

Heck, I had to keep the cotton pickin' thing. We're in the studio this weekend recording an album. I used it for pretty much everything today.

Jimfog - Beatiful guitar man. There's a Gretsch model that I was crazy about. I finally got to play one, or pick one up. As soon as I did I realized the neck was pencil thin. Big dissappointment. What's the neck like on yours?

[jimfog]

Jimfog - Beatiful guitar man. There's a Gretsch model that I was crazy about. I finally got to play one, or pick one up. As soon as I did I realized the neck was pencil thin. Big dissappointment. What's the neck like on yours?

Thanks!

Neck size is a solid medium, with medium frets.....not huge, but definitely not pencil-thin.....comfortable.....probably like a Gibson 60's carve.

One nice surprise......it's feather-light. Most older Gretsches I've tried were boat anchors.......this one feels nice strapped on.

Gig tonight got iced (!!) out, so I'll have to wait a week to really put it through it's paces......I think it will be slammin', though.

- Jim

[dddelta]

Birdseye, that's one great looking amp! Can you fill us all in with the details about it?


Just got home from seeing Hummel's travelling ho'monica circus at a little hippie club in New Hampshire. It's almost too much harp! Hummel is great, Charlie seems right at home in his role as "elder statesman", but Wilson is just a fire-breathing monster!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z90up5YOqj8

[Poppa Stoppa]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z90up5YOqj8
I take my hat off to Troy Gonyea for his playing on that. Kim Wilson staring straight at him wanting to hear something new and special and Troy delivering the goods.

[Birdseye]

Birdseye, that's one great looking amp! Can you fill us all in with the details about it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z90up5YOqj8

Great clip there! Yeah, Troy really plays a great solo there. What's that guitar? Epiphone?

The amp is a 1960 Bandmaster. It's the last of the 3x10 Fenders, descendent of the tweed 3x10 Bandmaster. It's the closest thing I'll get to one of those unless I get lucky at a garage sale! Still, I can't imagine that would be much better than this brown one. A buddy of mine (Paul Linden) has one that I played and loved, and so I always wanted one but really didn't think I'd get one. Paul says he's seen a total of 5 of these for sale since he got his in '96. This one has the rare "center-volume" configuration. Also, three original Jensen P10Rs. Trannys and caps are also the same as the tweed version. They were made for just one year before the Bandmaster became a head & cab. Just not too many were made, one of the more rare Fenders. Too bad, because it's such a perfect configuration, just the perfect blend of headroom and breakup. The old Jensens are all sugar. I can't stop playing the darn thing.

I know of another for sale right now, but it's not a center-volume model and some critical parts replaced. This period was very transitional for Fender so every amp can sound different. The center-volume units are earliest and seem to have great sounds from those I've heard.

West coast tones? Yeah, they're in there. Not as torn-up as the old tweeds, but think Kid Ramos. Walks the line between that tweed thing and cleaner warm jazzy tones, BB King, etc. Pretty versatile. Sounds great with a reverb tank in front.

[mikelaw]

those bandmasters are rare! 1960 was the only production year.

[jetlag]

Poppa, I'll second that. Troy's stuff was great, really nice solo and wonderful behind the harps throughout the whole song. That's a real player for you - having a bright thin, skanky tone like that and still makin' it sound great.

Strato, good luck in the studio, I hope your sessions go well.

Nice 3x10 birdseye, always wondered what they sounded like. I figured when Ramos was using his, most of what you heard was the AC30. Does your amp have a tube rectifier?

[Birdseye]

Mine is a ss rectifier. I think that may be a good thing in this amp, as it's not really a loud amp to begin with, just about right. I could see wanting a bit of sag at times though. Some Fender chassis from 1960 had the rectifier hole punched, but covered, on these models. Kind of wish mine did, but it doesn't. It has a replaced power tranny, so if it had the rectifier hole it would be easy to convert it and be that much closer to tweed. But it just sounds great as it is, so no sweat with that.

Yes...and AC30 would be louder than the Bandmaster, for sure. Ramos does play loud. I've seen him using TWO white tolex Twins! Cool tones though.

[dddelta]

Needed a small practice amp. Picked up a Roland Micro cube for next to nothing on ebay. What great tones you can get out of that thing! All transistor and its only 2 watts and has some good sounding effects on there and no chance of waking the neighbors!!
I can get a great Johnny Guitar Watson / Jimmy T-Birds era sound with a capo and a tiny amount of delay. Really dry sounding tone.
I never would have thought that the early players in this style would have used an effect like that but I guess they were experementing with different sounds.
But this is just a great little amp for messing around with indoors! Great fun.

[Thinsocks]

I take my hat off to Troy Gonyea for his playing on that. Kim Wilson staring straight at him wanting to hear something new and special and Troy delivering the goods.

Man! Troy plays some shit on that. I really dig him a lot. Also, that drummer (Marty?) sounds really good. Nice and loose, great feeling backbeat.

[mikelaw]

marty dodson. great player. eric ducoff, ryan hartt and i were at that show and commenting on how great the drummer was. also, troy was great when he sat in but out in the crowd the volume was WAY too low when he solo'd. it was obvious his(rusty's amp) mains mix was dipped for some reason.

[mikelaw]

Jimmie Vaughan Strat Owners!
I've had this thing for a few years and neglected it a bit. Just played it today and realized turning the bridge pu tone all the way down and putting it in the mid/bridge position is pretty sick! :dude

I cant explain the tone, maybe honky type oophase sort of. Any of you other JLV strat owners out there notice this???

[Scott Miller]

Marty is one of my favorite drummers around here. He has a unique whackety-whack bangity-bang style that encourages mucking around with the beat accents. He also has the strange vocal ability to perfectly mimic harp feedback. Drives harp players nuts.

That might be Bob's Epiphone that Troy is playing.

[valcotone]

Last few times I've seen Kim he ditched the mic and played acoustic for a long solo. Always had the whole crowd silenced...captivated...I know what y'all are sayin', he's just in his own league. How about playin' two parts at the same time? Damn...

I almost bought an old Gretsch a couple weeks ago, but it got sold before I jumped. Better that way in the end; now I've been selling off amps to fund this...the amp I've always wanted but never thought I'd find. This thing sounds amazing with every guitar it sees.

http://www.flatbrokebluesband.com/album/60bmaster.jpg

NIiiiiice amp! Is the baffle installed upside down?

[Birdseye]

skilback,

Not upside down. They made them like this, two speakers up top. I like it that way. There's plenty of bass, and you can hear it real well from the floor. Leo knew what to do!

BTW...nice playin' & tones with the H44/Bandmaster. I dig those amps!

[ES350]

I got tired of waiting around for a '60 Bandmaster, so I slapped one together from a BF BM chassis (with a Bassman OT) and a 3x10" Rodgers cab w/P10Q's...sounds great, almost as much bottom as a SR, a little less headroom, a very good gigging amp.

[nmontz]

Ahh Birdseye you got the solidbody amp! Cool! They seem like they would be great people to deal with...they seem like straight shooters and they always have cool high end stuff.

http://www.solidbodyguitar.com/

A local guitar tech has one...also with the center volume but he won't let me play on it. ;-(

There was a time I thought about buying a brown band-master head and having hopkins build a 3x10 cab and making one. I also thought about turning a 71' Vibrolux reverb into a 3x10. I ended up pimping out one of my Super Reverbs and that gave me my fix. I went for a blonde cab and a brown with numbers plate.

http://showcase.netins.net/web/tricountybands/blonde1.jpg

For anybody looking for another bandmaster....I remembered where I saw it...Jay Rosen has one.

http://www.jayrosen.com/

[nmontz]

ES350 beat me how to rig up the poor man's bandmaster while I was typing...... :-) I'll bet that is a great sounding amp!

could anybody clue me into what to type to imbed pics in a post...I'm still clueless...

[Schwalbe]

Ahh Birdseye you got the solidbody amp!DOOD! You got that from Solid Body? They're like half a mile from my house. I can't afford to buy anything there:drool.
Cool amp, congrats on gettin' a goodun.

[S.W.Erdnase]

Last few times I've seen Kim he ditched the mic and played acoustic for a long solo. Always had the whole crowd silenced...captivated...I know what y'all are sayin', he's just in his own league. How about playin' two parts at the same time? Damn...

I almost bought an old Gretsch a couple weeks ago, but it got sold before I jumped. Better that way in the end; now I've been selling off amps to fund this...the amp I've always wanted but never thought I'd find. This thing sounds amazing with every guitar it sees.

http://www.flatbrokebluesband.com/album/60bmaster.jpg

Also an amp I'd love to own - for harp. Rick Estrin used Ramos' Bandmaster on the Greasy Kid's Stuff instro track he did. When he heard the CD, he flipped and contacted Ramos, probably to try and buy the amp - but Ramos had sold it, alas...

[Birdseye]

Yes, this is the solidbody amp. I'd never dealt with them before, but they were great. Wally sold me the amp. It was all done over the phone and shipped. This was a big step for me, I've never dropped near that much on gear before, but Wally was great with answering all my detailed questions and sending more pics I asked for, and shipped it very fast for me. Good experience with those guys.

I actually think I got a good price too. I'm thinking these things are next in line to appreciate like crazy. Anyone seen the tweed bandmaster on ebay? Tweeds are going nuts, and brown amps are following, especially nice ones and these early/rare ones. There's a real nice Vibrasonic up there someone should grab right now too, price is not bad. Linden saw this one and just about jumped outta his skin, really encouraged me to grab it and called it a "steal". Nice to have such enablers for friends. Anyway, I'm counting on this to be a little investment, or at least hold value, but it will get used in the clubs and be doin' what it was made to do, for sure!

Yeah, Paul L uses his for harp too, of course, and the brown amps are great for that. But this one sounds fabulous for guitar as well. Can't wait to hear Paul blow some harp through it. It's rare to find an amp that will sound killer for both. Maybe I need to buy a green bullet now.

I did see the one Rosen has. Could be a nice one too. Not a center-volume, which makes it a bit different circuit, but still could be very nice. This one I have really has as sweet a tone as any brown Fender I've heard, which is quite a few. Some of the big ones in the professional series can have a certain "hardness" in the tone and be mostly quite clean. This one has none of it and a lot of west coast nasty is in there and easy to get, especially with P90s.

As of now, I'm still trying to move a Vicky Pro to help pay for this amp, have the old jensen in it and all. I think it's sold...I have an offer, but have not heard back from the guy...the way these deals go, you never know until you get the cash, so if anyone's interested let me know, in case my buyer bails.

[ES350]

My faux BF 3x10" BM has become the #1 amp for live gigs (over some tweeds and a Pro Reverb)---it's really light, has a big sonic footprint, and I can dial in a certain amount of mid boost with a raw control on the back panel. There's something about a 4 ohm output into a 2.7 load...

[frank62]

Have any of you ever heard The Skyla Burrell Blues Band? They are here tonite. Shound i check them out?

[Greentone]

Have any of you ever heard The Skyla Burrell Blues Band? They are here tonite. Shound i check them out?

They are pretty weak. No real guitar playing to speak of, lousy vocals, and a rotating rhythm section:BOUNCE

[HappyValley]

Jimmie Vaughan Strat Owners!
I've had this thing for a few years and neglected it a bit. Just played it today and realized turning the bridge pu tone all the way down and putting it in the mid/bridge position is pretty sick! :dude

I cant explain the tone, maybe honky type oophase sort of. Any of you other JLV strat owners out there notice this???

Hi Mike!!
I actually posted these sentiments awhile back when I had a MIM JV; Even on standard wired strats in the between positions, rolling off the tone on one of the pups while leaving the other wide open can result in a good throaty burp tone.

[TwoFeets]

FYI guys, on the local Craigslist, someone posted up a Harmony 415 amp for sale for $350. (2x12's a la Hollywood Fats). Not sure if it's a good deal or not, or whether you guys were looking, thought I'd throw it out there.

[GOLDENSTRAT]

Fretshop and Twofeets, do your Ampeg Jets have a P12S in them? Mine does, how does it compare to a P12R whatever? I would like more bass, it seems thinner sounding than it could be. What speaker would you recommend?
Mike Law, any good news yet? thanks, fred

[TwoFeets]

Fretshop and Twofeets, do your Ampeg Jets have a P12S in them? Mine does, how does it compare to a P12R whatever? I would like more bass, it seems thinner sounding than it could be. What speaker would you recommend?
Mike Law, any good news yet? thanks, fred

The original speaker in my Jet blew a couple of months ago. I put in a reissue C12R and I really like how it sounds. Fretshop swore by the Eminence-made 12" speakers used in the reissue Jets, but apparently those are no longer available through Ampeg and Ampeg has become very difficult to get ahold of or deal with direct.

[frank62]

They are pretty weak. No real guitar playing to speak of, lousy vocals, and a rotating rhythm section:BOUNCE
Thanks. I didn't go based on this. Talked to a friend who did go last night and he said the same thing. I did look at their website last night and they play over 200 gigs a year, have 2 cds, and the local blues society paid them 800!

[Greentone]

Thanks. I didn't go based on this. Talked to a friend who did go last night and he said the same thing. I did look at their website last night and they play over 200 gigs a year, have 2 cds, and the local blues society paid them 800!

They play most of those gigs for joke money, but the sheer number of dates makes them look impressive. So once in a while they get lucky and get $800 gigs. My bass player used to work with them when they got started and he couldn't get out of there quick enough!

[GOLDENSTRAT]

Twofeets, thanks for the input. I put a Jensen Mod I had around in it and it sounds much better, I can put the tone up around 6-7 now instead of 3. Much better frequency response. thanks, fred

[mikelaw]

i like celestions. :)

[Birdseye]

Twofeets, thanks for the input. I put a Jensen Mod I had around in it and it sounds much better, I can put the tone up around 6-7 now instead of 3. Much better frequency response. thanks, fred


The Mod 12-30 is an interesting speaker. Very low efficiency...around 94db IIRC. Good for bringing down the headroom in a too loud amp, if you can hang with the tone it gives.

[Schwalbe]

If anybody is looking for a re-issue Fender reverb tank, my old one is on the 'Bay'.
The Tore Vibe is doing it's job just fine.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270102104302

Reckon I'll have a Voodoo Labs Tremolo looking for a new home soon too.

[Poppa Stoppa]

The Mod 12-30 is an interesting speaker. Very low efficiency...around 94db IIRC. Good for bringing down the headroom in a too loud amp, if you can hang with the tone it gives.That's interesting...is there a 15" equivalent of low efficiency?

[aja]

I'm moving to San diego in a couple weeks. Can anyone point me in the
direction of some good blues bands/clubs/jams ?

[Stringmaster]

Aja:
Welcome (in advance) to the San Diego area. I look forward to hooking up with you--shoot me an email at DDuplan@aol.com re the SD scene.
Dana

[mikelaw]

dont forget the little guys in CT when you make it big alec james.

[TwoFeets]

I'm moving to San diego in a couple weeks. Can anyone point me in the
direction of some good blues bands/clubs/jams ?

What the... really?

[dukeh62]

I'm moving to San diego in a couple weeks. Can anyone point me in the
direction of some good blues bands/clubs/jams ?

We're gonna miss you Alec James! I always enjoyed hearing how ridiculously fast you improved every time I heard you play!

Knock 'em dead man, and please keep in touch.

[GOLDENSTRAT]

Yes, Birdseye, please go on about the Mod speaker some more...What is your perception of it's tone relative to a C12R or whatever. thanks, fred

[aja]

Thanks alot Ryan you guys are the best it'll be hard to find guys like you out their. Don't worry I'll still be checking in on here and on myspace.

Don't worry Mike I won't.

[Thinsocks]

I'm moving to San diego in a couple weeks. Can anyone point me in the
direction of some good blues bands/clubs/jams ?

I'm about 1 1/2 hours north up in LA, but if you ever make the drive up I'd be willing to show you around to some cool guitars shops, clubs and I can introduce you to some people too.

[mikelaw]

dukeh62 is eric , alec. fyi.

ryan probably doesnt care that youre leaving. lol

[aja]

Oops sorry I meant Eric. Same to both you guys. Yea I always knew Ryan never liked me anyway.lol !!

[TwoFeets]

This is actually a good move. In a further effort to legitimize the thread title, I think we all should move to San Diego with Alec.

[Poppa Stoppa]

This is actually a good move. In a further effort to legitimize the thread title, I think we all should move to San Diego with Alec.aja I'll take the sofa.

[Poppa Stoppa]

Hey guys check out Guitar Ray backing Mitch Kashmar in Holland recently
(click on 'videos live @ the Nix' & then Mitch Kashmar):
http://www.herriesnel.nl:80/video/video.htm
Ray is playing an H62 through his 1949 Gibson GA-30. One of these days he may check in here, in the meantime www.myspace.com/theguitarray (http://www.myspace.com/theguitarray) and www.guitarray.com (http://www.guitarray.com/) will have to do.

[rhartt1234]

Oops sorry I meant Eric. Same to both you guys. Yea I always knew Ryan never liked me anyway.lol !!

Not true at all. If Law moved away I definitely wouldn't care though.

[TwoFeets]

aja I'll take the sofa.

I can see it now. Life at the WCBT household.

aja: Mola, get your feet off the coffee table.
Rob: Sorry, man. Hey anyone seen Mike Law?
Duke: I heard he wasn't feeling too good.
Poppa: I think he said he had Mexican for lunch.
nmontz: Hey, you guys smell something?
aja: Besides Mola's feet you mean?
Rob: Ah come on, I showered last week.
Ryan: Is that where that ring around the tub came from?
Rob: Nah that was from Goldenstrat's hair coloring.
Goldenstrat: Hey now, what did I do to deserve that jab?
Rob: Nothing, you were just the next name I thought of.
Mike (emerging from restroom) MUCH better.

(everyone else exchanges alarmed glances and leaves quickly)

[aja]

yup I will be an official west coaster.I just hope my playing holds up to the standards of a west coaster. lol It would be like real world for guitarists twofeets.

[mikelaw]

hahaaaaaaaaaaa-mola you are hilarious! lmao

alec, you have PLENTY of talent to be there. in fact, im sure you will be one of the best and most busy of all blues guitarists IN san diego. :) go to sallys tonight alec, i want to play bass with ya before you go.

[bluesbreaker59]

I'm goin to check out Little Charlie tonight!!! I can't wait!!! I just love his playing, IMHO, he's the greatest blues player on the scene today, and maybe the scariest player I've ever seen in my life. So tonight after that's done, I'll go home and cry myself to sleep, knowing that I'll never, ever, in a million years get anywhere close to that man's scary abilities.

[mikelaw]

charlie and rick are 2 of the most underated at their 'positions' in the world...imho. rick's harp playing in particular always gets overshadowed by the popularity of kim and rod. BUT that being said, rick in some ways is better then them both.

[Thinsocks]

I'm goin to check out Little Charlie tonight!!! I can't wait!!! I just love his playing, IMHO, he's the greatest blues player on the scene today, and maybe the scariest player I've ever seen in my life. So tonight after that's done, I'll go home and cry myself to sleep, knowing that I'll never, ever, in a million years get anywhere close to that man's scary abilities.

They have a really great drummer with them right now.

[free_jazz]

yup I will be an official west coaster.I just hope my playing holds up to the standards of a west coaster. lol It would be like real world for guitarists twofeets.

aja, we need some of that competitive East Coast energy out here. Keep in touch. I'm in Poway.

[Birdseye]

That's interesting...is there a 15" equivalent of low efficiency?

I don't know of one. The old Jensen P15N I used in my Victoria was less efficient than the new Eminence that was stock. Other than that...not sure if there is a new equivalent of that Mod 12-30.

It's kind of an odd duck, as far as I can gather. It's mostly sat on the shelf since I got it. I'd really need to try it more to give many real astute comments. The amp I bought it for I ended up selling. It was to replace a greenback. Seemed to lack punch and maybe lows...might be better in a 4x12 closed back, guess I never got too excited by it in my open-back combos. It just seemed to take away some of the lively response of more efficient speakers (all of this is going by somewhat vague recall of brief trials). I still have the speaker but don't use it. It might be fun to try a pair in my brown '60 Twin, which is often just a bit louder than I like, but I just know it won't have the tone of the old Jensen P12Ns I have in there, so I won't buy another. It was a very inexpensive speaker when I bought it though, so not much risk in trying it. Not sure if they are still available at the price I got, or even at all.

ML

[S.W.Erdnase]

charlie and rick are 2 of the most underated at their 'positions' in the world...imho. rick's harp playing in particular always gets overshadowed by the popularity of kim and rod. BUT that being said, rick in some ways is better then them both.

Testify! I love Rick's playing - what a monster. I'd put him and Kim on a par. Right up there with my other fave, Paul Oscher... Nobody (and I mean NOBODY) nails Rice Miller's style like Rick Estrin - plus his chromatic stylings are very idiosyncratic - check out "Coasting Hank" Whooo-eee doggies. Although he has monster chops, he proves time and again that nailing the groove is the holy grail of harp - check out the solo on "That's Big!" So simple notewise and almost impossible to cop the groove with the same sense of swing and taste as Estrin.

S.Doubleyuh

[RickyKing]

Hi, I thought i'd offer these here 1st, I will ebay over the weekend.
I got this set of P-13's from a guy in N.H. and I was going to use them but could use some cash right now. I paid alot for them. If anyone is interested PM me and we can talk. They came from a Black Silvertone variant of the H-62.
Here is the link http://s156.photobucket.com/albums/t32/RickyKing_album/

[aja]

sure thing free jazz. I'm sure our paths will cross in this blues world we
live in. I'm sure their are some smoking players like Nick and Eric lurking in the blues scene out their.

[mikelaw]

where the hell has jersey george goumas been?

[mikelaw]

Hi, I thought i'd offer these here 1st, I will ebay over the weekend.
I got this set of P-13's from a guy in N.H. and I was going to use them but could use some cash right now. I paid alot for them. If anyone is interested PM me and we can talk. They came from a Black Silvertone variant of the H-62.
Here is the link http://s156.photobucket.com/albums/t32/RickyKing_album/

8.7 and 8.4--what is that near? p90?

[Thinsocks]

Hey Ricky, - I see you used my gee-tar over there in France. It's nice to see that on my first attempt I made something that is playable. Ha-Ha. It's actually has me fired up to build a 2nd one in that style.

[dukeh62]

East Coast Brethren...

Looks like we've got a good beginning to a "bon voyage" jam on 4/1 for Alex "AJA" James. It's going to be at 1pm in Centerbrook, CT. This isn't at a club. We're doing it at a big training center here at my office. So it will be nice and loose. Looks like we've got just about the whole Blue Hearts band, MikeLaw, AJA and a few other friends. Any of you other regulars that are interested just let me know. We'd love to have you along too.

We'll drink beer, eat pizza, talk gear and play some tunes! Figure we never get a chance to do this, so might as well give it a go!

[Scott Miller]

"We're doing it at a big training center here at my office."

Damn day job has to be good for something.

[Strat-O]

Ricky - I sent an email to you earlier about the pickups...

[Schwalbe]

We'll drink beer, eat pizza, talk gear and play some tunes! Figure we never get a chance to do this, so might as well give it a go!
Sounds like great fun, my kinda party. Too bad it's 1,300 miles away.
Have fun! :BEER

[Birdseye]

Hey Schwalbe...I agree...pick me up in Marquette along the way and I'll split gas with you.:AOK


Sounds like great fun, my kinda party. Too bad it's 1,300 miles away.
Have fun! :BEER

[aja]

Alex ?! I love it !! lol see you guys their.

[mikelaw]

oh man, wish you could be there schwalbe. you rock!

[RickyKing]

Thinsocks,
You should make another,it is a cool guitar.
Jersey George is up this way,Mike..
The party sounds like fun Duke,let me know the details.

[TwoFeets]

Anyone here considering buying Sean's H1311 blonde archtop and sticking Ricky's P13's in it?

[Dave Orban]

Anyone here considering buying Sean's H1311 blonde archtop and sticking Ricky's P13's in it?
Don't think for a minute that I haven't thought of it. ;)

[dukeh62]

The party sounds like fun Duke,let me know the details.

Ricky...I just emailed you with the details.

Nick...you in?

[RickyKing]

Hi Got your email,I have a message into Nick,I'll let you know and would like to come.

[Thinsocks]

Thinsocks,
You should make another,it is a cool guitar.

Thanks Rick! I'm just really beyond thrilled to see that the guitar is actually getting played. Are you using the pickup I made too? I was not really sure how good those turned out since I never got the chance to spend a lot of time with them. On another note, I'm getting closer to wrapping up the H-44 copy. It's almost ready for paint.

[RickyKing]

Thinsocks,
The P-90's were a little thin for my taste but I'm thinking about rewinding them.
Care to take a shot a a rewind ? I'm almost thinking about trying the P-13's I have if they don't sell
I'm very interested to see how the H-44 comes out.

[Thinsocks]

Thinsocks,
The P-90's were a little thin for my taste but I'm thinking about rewinding them.
Care to take a shot a a rewind ? I'm almost thinking about trying the P-13's I have if they don't sell
I'm very interested to see how the H-44 comes out.

I would, but the winder I used belonged to the school and I no longer have access to one. The H-44 should be cool. I made a couple of changes (truss rod, neck angle and a second pickup) Everything else (big neck, braz board, all poplar, neck-thru) is there though.

[RickyKing]

Boy,everyone must be gigging this weekend....

[TwoFeets]

Boy,everyone must be gigging this weekend....

Yes indeed, with varying degrees of success. REALLY slow weekend on the club scene this weekend.

[nc slim]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNW52phx6Ts&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hz2HWjM9UQ&mode=related&search=

Les is Best

[Dave Orban]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNW52phx6Ts&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hz2HWjM9UQ&mode=related&search=

Les is BestIndeed...! :dude

[mikelaw]

no gigs, i got my taxes done this weekend. i have 2 choices...spend the money on a new axe OR send the money to visa. mmmmmm decisions!

[GOLDENSTRAT]

Played last night with Sammy Mayfield for a party for the local jazz station, KUVO. Had a great time and James Van Buren came up for a couple tunes, too. Sammy is Solomon Burkes' guitarist and musical director when they tour. Played with a killer NOLA keyboard guy, too. fred

[TwoFeets]

Hey aja - did someone hork your myspace account?

All kindsa weird spam bulletins being posted under your account, just FYI.

[aja]

Yea someone probably did twofeets. If its really disturbing porn being sent
out maybe I won't change anything though. It took me a lot of time to add
all those friends.

[TwoFeets]

Yea someone probably did twofeets. If its really disturbing porn being sent
out maybe I won't change anything though. It took me a lot of time to add
all those friends.

Maybe just see if you can change your password. My guess is that would probably fix it. They can't post bulletins if they can't log in.

[Thin Slices]

Hi. I am new to this place but I have read alot in a similar thread on fenderforum. Thanks for good inspiration.

I have just installed Dave Stephens Kay-Bars (bucker sized P-90 pickups) in my ES350-T. I am primarily playing the 350 on the neck pu through a NP tweed deluxe replica with original curcuit specs., that is no bass reduction mod or things like that. I like to use the bright canal on vol 10 with the normal vol set in the middle for max gain/fattnes and the tone on 10. Then I back up a little or some on the guitar vol. Thats all fine with my strat but somewhat tricky with the 350T.

In some rooms - especially smaller naked rooms without a lot of furniture - the guitar is VERY lively, in the sence that it is really tough to controle the feedback. I haven't tried the guitar with the Kay-Bars out on stage yet, but with the humbuckers it would also be critical on som small clubs with small stages.

What do all you hollowbody-P-90-guitar-into-cranked-tweeds players do to controle the feedback?

I dig Jr. Watson, Rick Holmstrom, Kid Ramos, Eric Ducoff among others. They seem to be able to play big hollowbody guitars with huge amounts of amp drive without feeding out. How do they do it?

AndreasA, Denmark

[Dave Orban]

Hi. I am new to this place but I have read alot in a similar thread on fenderforum. Thanks for good inspiration.

I have just installed Dave Stephens Kay-Bars (bucker sized P-90 pickups) in my ES350-T. I am primarily playing the 350 on the neck pu through a NP tweed deluxe replica with original curcuit specs., that is no bass reduction mod. I like to use the bright canal on vol 10 with the normal vol set in the middle for max gain/fattnes and the tone on 10. Then I back up a little or some on the guitar vol.

In some rooms - especially smaller naked rooms without a lot of furniture - the guitar is VERY lively, in the sence that it is really tough to controle the feedback. I haven't tried the guitar with the Kay-Bars out on stage yet, but with the humbuckers it would also be critical on som small clubs with small stages.

What do all you hollowbody-P-90-guitar-into-cranked-tweeds players do to controle the feedback?

I dig Jr. Watson, Rick Holmstrom, Kid Ramos, Eric Ducoff among others. They seem to be able to play big hollowbody guitars with huge amounts of amp drive without feeding out. How do they do it?

AndreasA, DenmarkDo you have sound posts installed...?

[rhartt1234]

Just change your passsword.

[Stringmaster]

Welcome Andreas--you've come to the right place if you are into those players you mentioned!

Speaking in generalizations, I think some guitars are just more feedback prone than others. Solid spruce tops usually feedback more than laminated ones. I've played quite a few ES175's with laminatated tops, some were pretty feedback free, while others were unplayable at volume (I owned one of those unfortunately). My big bodied X550 Guild is pretty much feedback free, even at stage volumes--so my point is, it could be the individual guitar--I assume as the acoustic resonance goes up, it's likely that the tendency towards feedback does do. The way a guitar is braced and soundpost configurations can have a big effect too.

On to your problem--maybe trying lower gain preamp tubes? I know this helps tame feedback when using a harp mic into an amp, so it may also help with your guitar. Have you talked to Dave Stephens? I see some of his pickups are not potted, which would enhance the tone, but also the squeal factor. Just a couple of thoughts, short of stuffing the guitar with gym socks and duct taping the F-Holes!
DD

[TwoFeets]

Hi. I am new to this place but I have read alot in a similar thread on fenderforum. Thanks for good inspiration.

I have just installed Dave Stephens Kay-Bars (bucker sized P-90 pickups) in my ES350-T. I am primarily playing the 350 on the neck pu through a NP tweed deluxe replica with original curcuit specs., that is no bass reduction mod or things like that. I like to use the bright canal on vol 10 with the normal vol set in the middle for max gain/fattnes and the tone on 10. Then I back up a little or some on the guitar vol. Thats all fine with my strat but somewhat tricky with the 350T.

In some rooms - especially smaller naked rooms without a lot of furniture - the guitar is VERY lively, in the sence that it is really tough to controle the feedback. I haven't tried the guitar with the Kay-Bars out on stage yet, but with the humbuckers it would also be critical on som small clubs with small stages.

What do all you hollowbody-P-90-guitar-into-cranked-tweeds players do to controle the feedback?

I dig Jr. Watson, Rick Holmstrom, Kid Ramos, Eric Ducoff among others. They seem to be able to play big hollowbody guitars with huge amounts of amp drive without feeding out. How do they do it?

AndreasA, Denmark

Hey man - welcome!

Geez, when you say "cranked tweed" you're not kidding. If you're running the amp that wide open, it's probably like a bucking bronco with the feedback.

I find that most times if I can EQ out some of the lows, it alleviates the feedback issues. You lose a little bit of the fatness but it's a fair trade. It's tricky on a Deluxe though since you don't have separate bass/treble controls.

[dukeh62]

Hi. I am new to this place but I have read alot in a similar thread on fenderforum. Thanks for good inspiration.

I have just installed Dave Stephens Kay-Bars (bucker sized P-90 pickups) in my ES350-T. I am primarily playing the 350 on the neck pu through a NP tweed deluxe replica with original curcuit specs., that is no bass reduction mod or things like that. I like to use the bright canal on vol 10 with the normal vol set in the middle for max gain/fattnes and the tone on 10. Then I back up a little or some on the guitar vol. Thats all fine with my strat but somewhat tricky with the 350T.

In some rooms - especially smaller naked rooms without a lot of furniture - the guitar is VERY lively, in the sence that it is really tough to controle the feedback. I haven't tried the guitar with the Kay-Bars out on stage yet, but with the humbuckers it would also be critical on som small clubs with small stages.

What do all you hollowbody-P-90-guitar-into-cranked-tweeds players do to controle the feedback?

I dig Jr. Watson, Rick Holmstrom, Kid Ramos, Eric Ducoff among others. They seem to be able to play big hollowbody guitars with huge amounts of amp drive without feeding out. How do they do it?

AndreasA, Denmark

Thanks for the compliment Andreas...and welcome!

I'd have to agree with Stringmaster that the feedback thing is very different from guitar to guitar. I've actually gone the OPPOSITE direction of a lot of guys and have had all my archtop pickups potted. I haven't noticed a ton of difference in tone, but it's often been absolutely essential in ridding the squeal from my signal.

Are you getting a "howl" or a "squeal"? If it's a howl, I think that usually means vibration of the top is probably the culprit. I normally would say squeal is coming from the pups. Then again...there's no science behind this, so it could be many things!

Hopefully those new pups will do the trick.

[safecracker]

Duke, just sent you a pm. Help needed.

[jetlag]

What do all you hollowbody-P-90-guitar-into-cranked-tweeds players do to controle the feedback?

I dig Jr. Watson, Rick Holmstrom, Kid Ramos, Eric Ducoff among others. They seem to be able to play big hollowbody guitars with huge amounts of amp drive without feeding out. How do they do it?

AndreasA, Denmark

Welcome AdreasA,

One thing most of those players have in common is a Harmony H62. As archtops go, they have really dead tops which makes them fairly average acoustic instruments but great stage instruments. I've been told that later H62s even have some cardboard-like paper laminated in the tops. All of that makes it much easier to control the feedback since the top doesn't take off on you so bad. Kid's ES5 isn't as hard to control either since it's a ply top with a ton of pickups and hardware on it to deaden things (he once told me he has no problems on big stages with marshall half stack backline, the guitar is that feedback resistant). If your guitar is a carved spruce top, it'll be really lively and harder to control. But it'll sound great!

Specific to your problem and like Duke said, is your problem a high pitched squeal (pickups) or a more lower frequency rumble that takes off (the guitar)? If it's the former, then potting is a big help. If it's the later, then you can try a number of things, many of which were already discussed. One thing I notice (and last night I was using my most feedback-prone guitar, my late 40's ES 150) is that if I have a cranked amp up high I get a lot of feedback. High like up on a milk carton or chair. If it's down on the floor or a low-riding amp stand, most of the air pushes by down low and tends to not drive the guitar's top into feedback. So that's something else you can try. Is your ES350T the model with the thin depth? If so, you'll certainly have greater than average feedback problems because the shallow depth allows a standing wave to build up alot easier - just like ES330s. Maybe some of the ES 330 users here can chime in on what they've done to mitigate feedback problems. I imagine many of them use soundposts like Dave's recommendation.

Good luck, and again, welcome!

[Thin Slices]

@Dave Orban: Sound Pots? What’s that?

@Stringmaster: It was the same thing with the humbuckers. It is not a hi pitch squeal but a deep “oooooooom” sounding like a feedback coming from the lower E string.

@TwoFeets: Well I back up on the volume knob so I really don’t run with that distorted a signal. I already run the tone high (on 10) to get a brighter tone.

@dukeh62: Cool to meat you here. As I said to Stringmaster, the feedback is a very deep “oooooooom” or maby a “woooooom” :-) sounding like something coming from the low E.

I have just installed the SD pickups and I would just give it a try before contacting Dave Stephens. As I said the thing was about the same with the humbuckers. It just puzzles med a bit since the 350-T is not a very thick bodied guitar compared to 350, ES5 etc. It is possible that there is no problem when I take it to a gig. But playing it in my living room (17 m^2, wooden floors, not much furniture) is a big challenge. That why I wanted to hear you guys if there are any secret tricks. And how Holmstrom and others can play with THAT much drive.

By the way, the SD Kay-Bars sound amazing.

Thanks to you all. Keep them coming.
Andreas

[Dave Orban]

Welcome AdreasA,

One thing most of those players have in common is a Harmony H62. As archtops go, they have really dead tops which makes them fairly average acoustic instruments but great stage instruments. I've been told that later H62s even have some cardboard-like paper laminated in the tops. All of that makes it much easier to control the feedback since the top doesn't take off on you so bad. Kid's ES5 isn't as hard to control either since it's a ply top with a ton of pickups and hardware on it to deaden things (he once told me he has no problems on big stages with marshall half stack backline, the guitar is that feedback resistant). If your guitar is a carved spruce top, it'll be really lively and harder to control. But it'll sound great!

Specific to your problem and like Duke said, is your problem a high pitched squeal (pickups) or a more lower frequency rumble that takes off (the guitar)? If it's the former, then potting is a big help. If it's the later, then you can try a number of things, many of which were already discussed. One thing I notice (and last night I was using my most feedback-prone guitar, my late 40's ES 150) is that if I have a cranked amp up high I get a lot of feedback. High like up on a milk carton or chair. If it's down on the floor or a low-riding amp stand, most of the air pushes by down low and tends to not drive the guitar's top into feedback. So that's something else you can try. Is your ES350T the model with the thin depth? If so, you'll certainly have greater than average feedback problems because the shallow depth allows a standing wave to build up alot easier - just like ES330s. Maybe some of the ES 330 users here can chime in on what they've done to mitigate feedback problems. I imagine many of them use soundposts like Dave's recommendation.

Good luck, and again, welcome!I first learned about the sound post from Little Charlie Baty, who playes a 295 (essentially a gold 175) straight into a LOUD Super Reverb, while standing pretty much right in front of the amp.

I fitted sound posts into my '53 175 and have very few feedback (howl) problems anymore. If I do, it's usually from a stage monitor pointing up into the guitar. I can usually shift my position a bit, and mitigate it fairly easily from there...

[Thin Slices]

Hi Jetlag.
The guitar is like this: http://www.skylinerguitars.com/graphics/photos/ES350T_6.jpg

I think it has a ply top.

I get your point about acoustic "dead" boxes being good amplified. Actually my 350T has a very strong acoustic sound. The thing about the thickness surprices me. I would think that thicker boxes like the 350 would be more connected to feedback.

[dukeh62]

the feedback is a very deep “oooooooom” or maby a “woooooom” :-) sounding like something coming from the low E.
Andreas

Andreas...sounds like you're dealing with feedback generated from the top and back vibrating as jetlag described. Not sure the pickup change will influence this that much...but I'd sure like to hear the report.

I'd say give some of the other tips you've heard here a try.

As for the definition of a soundpost...these are usually a small dowel or thin piece of wood which are installed inside the guitar, essentially wedged between the top and back of the guitar...usually underneath the bridge. This reduces the amount of vibration as the top and back react off each other. Of course, it also decreases the "acoustic" tone of the guitar as well.

[safecracker]

I've got a '52 Tele RI. I want to mod it for T-Bone out of phase sound. I also want the three standard tele tones. I ordered a 4-way Tele mod switch. Will this work or should I do something else? I asked Eric Ducoff, he said George,Skillback, or Jetlag would know best. Thanks in advance fellas. This is much appreciated. Shawn

[jetlag]

Dave, that's cool (the source of the soundpost deal). They sure work for Charlie! I know what you mean, he's standing right in front of that super and it's cranked! I remember my ES5 had them in them when I bought it. Once I had some braces reglued I was able to remove them w/o much more feedback. I really think that's AndreasA best alternative at this point. You and Duke have nailed his problem on the head.

AndreasA - I know, at first it's kind of counterintuitive thinking that a thinner hollowbody will have more problems than a fatter one, but often that's the case. The way it was explained to me was the thinner hollowbody has less distance between top and back, thus it's easier for those soundwaves to build up and make the top/back "dance." Thus you get the wolfing/howling feedback easier. A deeper archtop COUPLED with a (dead) ply top is more resistant to feedback. I think once you get to carved tops, you're likely back to getting that feedback again. I'd have someone fit soundposts into your guitar - to me that's more attractive of an option as opposed to stuffing the guitar with something. It's reversible too, as the posts are not glued in - it's a pressed in fitting between the top and back.

[jetlag]

I've got a '52 Tele RI. I want to mod it for T-Bone out of phase sound. I also want the three standard tele tones. I ordered a 4-way Tele mod switch. Will this work or should I do something else? I asked Eric Ducoff, he said George,Skillback, or Jetlag would know best. Thanks in advance fellas. This is much appreciated. Shawn

Fretshop has a diagram for doing that with a 5-way "super switch" that has a zillion poles on it. It does the out of phase thing in series so that you don't drop real bad. The problem with tele's is there is only one volume control and the OOP thing cancels too much when both pickups are at equal volume. Maybe Sean or someone else has that diagram and send it to you. Sorry, I don't have it. If you stick with your 4 way, the added sound is the two pickups in phase, in series - a cool tone to have, but not the OOP tone you seek. If you add a DPDT push-pull tone pot to the 4 way wiring, you could flip phase of one pickup and that added series position on your 4 way will give you the OOP quack you're looking for. Those are your options, unless you added another knob or switch to your guitar.

[safecracker]

Fretshop has a diagram for doing that with a 5-way "super switch" that has a zillion poles on it. It does the out of phase thing in series so that you don't drop real bad. The problem with tele's is there is only one volume control and the OOP thing cancels too much when both pickups are at equal volume. Maybe Sean or someone else has that diagram and send it to you. Sorry, I don't have it. If you stick with your 4 way, the added sound is the two pickups in phase, in series - a cool tone to have, but not the OOP tone you seek. If you add a DPDT push-pull tone pot to the 4 way wiring, you could flip phase of one pickup and that added series position on your 4 way will give you the OOP quack you're looking for. Those are your options, unless you added another knob or switch to your guitar.Thanks! That's exactly what I want. I need quack.What is DPDT? I'm a harp player...For real..LOL Thanks,S

[safecracker]

Rick Estrin inspired me a year and a half ago to start playing guitar at a great show in b'ham. Now I can't put it down!

[valcotone]

I've got a '52 Tele RI. I want to mod it for T-Bone out of phase sound. I also want the three standard tele tones. I ordered a 4-way Tele mod switch. Will this work or should I do something else? I asked Eric Ducoff, he said George,Skillback, or Jetlag would know best. Thanks in advance fellas. This is much appreciated. Shawn


Here's what you want: http://www.deaf-eddie.net/guitars/5-tone.html

It offers all 3 regular tele sounds, plus series-in-phase and series-out-of-phase. George recommended this mod and I wired it into my 52RI Tele with excellent results... the only one I don't use that much is the series-in-phase which is a little too thick and muddy on my guitar, but I have a Gibson P94 in the neck position.

Welcome to the forum, btw!

http://www.deaf-eddie.net/drawings/5-tone.jpg

[aja]

Hey guys I think I fixed the bulletins on myspace. I changed my password
and deleted all the bulletins. Sorry 'bout that.

[mikelaw]

thats a good one sean. really all you want is everything but also to have the middle spot be in SERIES but out of phase. DO NOT do parallel out of phase. you WONT like it. I started a folder with mods. I will look for 4 way switch out of phase now.

[mikelaw]

alec, it happened to me a while back. also dont forget before closing your browser to click 'log out' on myspace. that will help too

[Scott Miller]

The feedback issue: I have a non-cutaway H-50 with that problem. Big, light floppy top. I can't do the soundposts because I like the acoustic tone too much. As long as I keep the strings dampened with my right hand, it's OK, although if I hold a note too long it starts moaning like a cave-woman in heat. I've gotten used to it, and now I like the way it kicks when I've got it cranked up. It's like holding an animal.

[Dave Orban]

The feedback issue: I have a non-cutaway H-50 with that problem. Big, light floppy top. I can't do the soundposts because I like the acoustic tone too much. As long as I keep the strings dampened with my right hand, it's OK, although if I hold a note too long it starts moaning like a cave-woman in heat. I've gotten used to it, and now I like the way it kicks when I've got it cranked up. It's like holding an animal.Of course, when you're gigging it electrically, who actually hears the acoustic tone...?

[TwoFeets]

The feedback issue: I have a non-cutaway H-50 with that problem. Big, light floppy top. I can't do the soundposts because I like the acoustic tone too much. As long as I keep the strings dampened with my right hand, it's OK, although if I hold a note too long it starts moaning like a cave-woman in heat. I've gotten used to it, and now I like the way it kicks when I've got it cranked up. It's like holding an animal.

And cave women in heat are bad, why, exactly?

[straightblues]

Thanks! That's exactly what I want. I need quack.What is DPDT? I'm a harp player...For real..LOL Thanks,S
DPDT stands for dual pole dual throw switch. For guitar they usually come in the form of a push pull pot.

Here is the basic 4 way switch wiring:

http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/schematics/tele_4ws.html

Here is one that shows how to wire the DPDT
http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/schematics/tele_phase.html

You can combine the two if you want.

Here is a link to the pots at stewmac.

http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Electronics,_pickups/Potentiometers_and_push-pull_pots/3/Potentiometers_and_Push-Pull_Pots.html

[bluesbreaker59]

And cave women in heat are bad, why, exactly?
My thoughts precisely...:AOK

[musicofanatic5]

I have the solution for feedback from a hollowbody through a cranked amp, but lean in real close, cuz I'm gonna whisper it: turn down your amp. I have never been enough of a "gtr queer" to examine and record their amp settings, but would be willing to bet that the fellas you mentioned (Holmstom, Watson, etc.) are not playing through a tweed on ten (am I right Eric? He mentioned you...). Most of these guys run the amp up to where it gets the breakup they want with the gtr wide open, and that will usually mean the amp's vol control is somewhere around half-way or less. The only player I know of who intentionally runs his tweed Dee-lux wide open is Neil Young, and, of course, he's generally playing a solid body (and, I think he likes the squeely, microphonic p.u. feedback; part of "his sound"?!). Other than that, employ the Dave Gonzales (world's loudest archtop player) techniques of manual string dampning and vol control riding. And to those who say, "let it feedback and make it part of your (hopefully) musical statement", I say right-the-f*ck-on, dude!!!
Random rambles:
DaveO: I like any acoustic elements that I can get outta my archtop gtrs (playing at home or mic'ing the gtr in addition to the amp when recording), and thusly am always hesitant to employ soundposts. Having said that, I readily admit to seeing the merits of such a technique and have in the past done it myself.
I think MikeLaw, however unitentionally, described me perfectly when he posted: "really all you want is everything". Ya hit the nail on the head, bro!
I like to employ an additional switch for p.u. phasing (push/pull tone pot), but maybe that's because I'm to lazy to learn new fender switch wiring options.
Eric, what's the skinny for this April Fool's gtr party? Why don't you lay the info on me in case I'm in the 'hood? Thanks.
It's always fun for me to get up at the crack o' noon (or so) on Mon. mornings and see how busy as beavers you fellas have been whilst I slumber. Glad y'all are out there getting it done, and I salute you, each and every one! Carry on, bruthas!

[Thinsocks]

I have the solution for feedback from a hollowbody through a cranked amp, but lean in real close, cuz I'm gonna whisper it: turn down your amp. I have never been enough of a "gtr queer" to examine and record their amp settings, but would be willing to bet that the fellas you mentioned (Holmstom, Watson, etc.) are not playing through a tweed on ten (am I right Eric? He mentioned you...). Most of these guys run the amp up to where it gets the breakup they want with the gtr wide open, and that will usually mean the amp's vol control is somewhere around half-way or less.

Yeah, that's the truth. The last few times I've sat in on Watson's Bassman it was on about 4. I know this becuase.... i'm a "gtr queer"! Ha-Ha. Serouisly though, when I bought my TV Pro from Holmstrom years ago and didn't have a clue about anything, he basically said set it to 6 and don't go past that. Wise words.

[dukeh62]

Yeah, that's the truth. The last few times I've sat in on Watson's Bassman it was on about 4. I know this becuase.... i'm a "gtr queer"! Ha-Ha. Serouisly though, when I bought my TV Pro from Holmstrom years ago and didn't have a clue about anything, he basically said set it to 6 and don't go past that. Wise words.

I think I usually run mine between 4-5 depending on the gig.

[jetlag]

When Watson was in town and played my tweed pro, I was a guitar queer and looked at the settings. He used the normal channel with the instrument (bright) channel off, and had the volume set to 4. That particular amp has all 12AX7s in it.

When the band gets too loud to effectively control the archtop and it's controlling me - that's when I grab some kind of solidbody guitar. I've given up trying to get people to play softer.

[dukeh62]

Just to throw another wrench in this feedback thing...

I sat in with Little Charlie late last year, and he handed me his ES-295 with his Vero sitting on a chair RIGHT behind me on a narrow stage. I was nervous enough to begin with, but I also IMMEDIATELY had feedback problems when I started playing. His amp was set LOUD...at least a lot louder than I'm used to. I'm also not used to having the amp on a chair.

So...this goes to show that the position you hold the guitar on stage can help alleviate feedback. Lord knows, however, that I couldn't find that spot that night! He had it sounding great...with no feedback. Me? Not so good.

[dukeh62]

Jeff Scott just played a track by a group out of Portland, OR called "The Insomniacs." Said they just got signed to Delta Groove?

We've got some Portland representatives in here right? Who are these guys? Fantastic band! Killer guitar player...wow!

[Dave Orban]

Just to throw another wrench in this feedback thing...

I sat in with Little Charlie late last year, and he handed me his ES-295 with his Vero sitting on a chair RIGHT behind me on a narrow stage. I was nervous enough to begin with, but I also IMMEDIATELY had feedback problems when I started playing. His amp was set LOUD...at least a lot louder than I'm used to. I'm also not used to having the amp on a chair.

So...this goes to show that the position you hold the guitar on stage can help alleviate feedback. Lord knows, however, that I couldn't find that spot that night! He had it sounding great...with no feedback. Me? Not so good.It *is* amazing, because every time I've seen him (with either the Super or the Vero), he has that sucker set on LOUD...!

[TwoFeets]

Yeah, when I got to play Watson's rig it was on about 4. I play it about the same, and when I get that low endy feedback thing happening I dial out some bass. You lose some of the woofiness but it does help. He had the goldtop that night though so I didn't get to feel out how it interacted with an archtop. He had his L48 (isn't that what it is?) with the Dearmond pickup on it and didn't seem to have any issues. Then again, he is Watson.

I remember having some issues with Eric's H62 when I played it through his Masco rig down at Harry's, but that was more due to the fact that the Fatdog was so dead acoustically, I was out of practice with palm-damping the thing.

I have yet to figure out how to set the amp with the ES350, but that's because it's hard for me to experiment when the damn thing is in the shop all the time.

Putting a reverb tank in between you and the amp also helps with some extra gain without having to push the amp quite as hard.

But yeah, turn down man!

[TwoFeets]

Jeff Scott just played a track by a group out of Portland, OR called "The Insomniacs." Said they just got signed to Delta Groove?

We've got some Portland representatives in here right? Who are these guys? Fantastic band! Killer guitar player...wow!

zappafrank is president of our Portland chapter...

[valcotone]

Jeff Scott just played a track by a group out of Portland, OR called "The Insomniacs." Said they just got signed to Delta Groove?

We've got some Portland representatives in here right? Who are these guys? Fantastic band! Killer guitar player...wow!


http://www.myspace.com/insomniacsblues

http://cdbaby.com/cd/insomniacs

Listening now... "I'm Not Sorry" is pretty cool.

[Thin Slices]

@musicofanatic5: I will try once more to run the amp lower. I am however sceptic that it will make any difference whether I run the amp at 10 and back up the guitar vol to where it just breaks up (as I have done until now) or run it at 5 with the guitar full open.

I have played around with the settings. It helped a lot to turn up the normal vol to around 10 to reduce mids/gain but it also ruined the tone. Raising the tone to 10 helped without ruining the tone. I have tried different vol settings on the amp and as far as I recall the amount of feedback only depended on the total level (guitar vol +amp vol) meaning that it would feed the same with a low amp vol setting and high guitar vol. setting as in the opposite case.

In other words, the feedback occurs at low volumes. By that I mean volumes where the tone is still very clean. It's not a result of me trying to melt down the shack. Your solution does probably not work for me since I will have to turn down the volume to something way below the point of breakup to get rid of the feedback. But I wil of course give it a chance. Thanks for your suggestion.

Anyway, it is interesting to get an idea of how other guitarists use their tweed amps. Until now I have primarily been using mine with the strat. Here it seems to work excellent to turn the amp vol to 10 and regulate the guitar vol between 6 and 8.5 (leaving 9-10 as an ace up the sleeve that is rarely used. With 5V4 and a weber P12Q the amp can handle somewhat more than lets say my GA-20 with the org. jensen P12R. I would not play that amp at 10 with my strat). Thats why I tried the same thing with the 350T. As you guys point out there is not really a reason to turn the amp vol that high with the 350 when I will never be interested in opening the guitarvol fully anyway. But that has not much to do with my feedback problem.

If I also experience feedback to that degree on stage it seems that Sound Pots is the way to go. Do you know where to buy them?

Again, thanks to you all for your advises. I really appreciate it.
Andreas

PS: @TwoFeet: A reverb unit between the guitar and the amp must be the "best" solution I have heard so far. Thanks! I have never had a better excuse for bying a tank. So, where do I sell my soul to finance the damn thing?!

[KingTone]

Caught em in Wichita Sat. nite. I ask Charlie where his Vero was. " In the van, it's a little to loud for this room" I was kinda surprised to hear him say that the BF super worked better in a smaller room. Not quite as loud. I'm a strat hound from wayback, ask Jetlag. But man that 295 kicked serious tone booty.:drool

[Dave Orban]

Caught em in Wichita Sat. nite. I ask Charlie where his Vero was. " In the van, it's a little to loud for this room" I was kinda surprised to hear him say that the BF super worked better in a smaller room. Not quite as loud. I'm a strat hound from wayback, ask Jetlag. But man that 295 kicked serious tone booty.:droolAnd that's with P100s, if I'm not mistaken...

[Strat-O]

Well, I'm going to have to be the voice of dissention here. The new John Nemeth CD is great and has plenty of guitar all over it. Maybe my speakers are tuned a little differently than others. I do like "Come and Get it" better, but its primarily the way it was produced. "Magic Touch" sounds like John Nemeth and Jr Watson playing on an Anson Funderburg album. It even sounds like Jr is using Anson's gear. The new one definitely has more of a soul/r&b feel to it, but the bright/open production style is the big difference. Its still cool. What a great show it would be to see them performing these tunes and the ones off of "Come and Get It".

I was looking for a "Come and Get It, II". But this is cool.

[jetlag]

Hi Jimmie - unfortunately, I was a loser and missed Charlie and Rick when they were here in KC. Damn! Hopefully I won't miss Tad Robinson - he's coming thru April 6. Anyone know who's touring with Tad?

Strato - I liked John's new record too. Or well, at least the clips that are up on his site. They all sound great to me.

[Scott Miller]

I like John's CD too. I think his voice works well with the horns. I like the horns on "Let Me Hold You;" it's almost a different song, but I miss that little guitar "ting" on the earlier version. That was pure gold, to me. I played that song once with John, but I wasn't sure about the "ting," so I left it out. Hey, I was ahead of the curve.

The only nit-pick I have is that Junior's tone sounds a little too raw, if such a thing is possible. The voice... smooooth... the horns... smoooth... the guitar... well, it's a nice contrast.

[KingTone]

Possibly Johnny Moeller on guitar with Tad.

[Shades]

Jeff Scott just played a track by a group out of Portland, OR called "The Insomniacs." Said they just got signed to Delta Groove?

We've got some Portland representatives in here right? Who are these guys? Fantastic band! Killer guitar player...wow! Good group. I've had a chance to get to know Vyasa a bit in the last few months. We've played together a few times and each time has been a lot of fun. Love his feel and phrasing, good singer as well.