West Coast Blues Thread - Version 2.0

[zappafrank]

Tom---you a Dentist???
Nice---

ac

[bluesjuke]

hey bluesjuke---welcome!

For me, personally, and JMO, I always feel like i'm 'missing' something when I use anything but a 12AX7---less aggressive, less tone coming from the amp---BUT---if I was 'diming' the volumes, or at least cranking em' past 5-6 or so (which I almost never do anymore, not with tweeds anyway), I could see 5751's being fantastic---really don't get along with 12AY7's in the first pre-amp slot---now, I'm no techie, can't fix an amp---and I don't mess too much with tube swaps (but I've had fun with different 6v6's and 6l6's lately, for sure

YMMV!

ac


Thanks!
So far I've only put one of the 12ay7's in V1 but I'm liking it pretty well.
I've still got the 2 12ax7s in V1 & 2.
Can't lose with what I bought as the two 12ay7's & the 5751 can all be used in my Deluxe.


How many pedals on a Harley anyway?

[jumpnblues]

ac,

Yeah, but I wasn't one until I was 41 y/o (I spent 15 yrs as a high school senior :jo;)). Finished a hospital dentistry residency at age 42 (I'm 57 now). I bounced around and did a few things before that but was always a pro or semi-pro guitar player. All my buddies are either into blues/jazz, street rods, or Harleys, or all 3, so I ain't exactly a "country club dentist". I'd retire in a heartbeat and just play blues and jazz, and record, but I'm still in debt up to my eyeballs. So I gotta' keep the dental thing as an aside. It also helps me with my G.A.S. which seems to be a little out of control lately. :worried:cool:

Tom

[bluesjuke]

Nemeth and Kader wandered in to the jam last night, Nemeth holding a big doggie bag from an Indian restaurant; so he's up there singing his ass off, doggie bag in one hand, scotch in the other, and pulls out some nan or a dhosa or something and starts eating mid-song, chewing between verses. Only in California.



And Texas too!
Caught Junior & John in Dallas in May except this time he was eating pizza while singing.

[RickyKing]

And Texas too!
Caught Junior & John in Dallas in May except this time he was eating pizza while singing.
He's gonna get chubby.....:worried

[dddelta]

AC, and Strat -0, and anyone else...

do you have any way of posting some soundclips or video of the Don Mare pickups you have in your guitars?
Like me, I'm sure others in here would like to hear them after all the good things that are being said about them.

:drool:drool:drool

[Ryguy]

This full-time/part time working hack-by-day-guitar slinger-by-night conversation is really interesting. It always feels good to compare notes with people in the same boat.

I am from NYC, and have been living down in Argentina for a little over ten years, and until the last two or so was living 90% of of music, blues and jazz, with a few English students mixed in with the guitar students for extra cash. I have a college history degree, but other than music, no marketable skills.

However, I now have two kids that are a pain in the ass and at the same time as fulfilling as music, and the constant hustling has worn me down a bit. Plus the cost of living here has shot through the roof, so it is becoming increasingly difficult to live on a working-musicians salary. So I am now getting a Masters degree to be able to get back into teaching, which is nicely compatible with music.

At any rate, all of my friends down here are full time musicians with even fewer possibilities than I for getting day-jobs, and we often talk about this. There is a certain chip on you shoulder that comes from making ends meet only with music, but I think that chip gets heavier and heavier as you get older. I personally am happy to be (hopefully) easing into a division of labor that takes some pressure off of the music, but I still have GREAT RESPECT for anyone who, by choice or not, makes it by music alone. And although the market for blues has really dried up, (here just like in the US), I think it still offers some advantages over Rock'n'roll, or pop, whatever. From my experience, successful session players and Shania Twain-touring guitarists aside, Rock'n'roll is still sort of an all or nothing field, whereas with Blues, and especially Jazz, there are maybe more blue collar gigs and filler opportunities. That is a big generalization, but I do now alot more full time Blues/Jazz playing working guys, than full time rockers. This seems to be especially true as you get older, snappy vintage clothes and suits look better on middle aged men than tight leather pants.

BTW after years of playing only archtops, I have become a hard core tele fanatic, and it sounds like I need me some Don Mare pups!

[zappafrank]

Ryguy---Welcome, man---

very thoughtful post there---and fascinating---Argentina? That sounds incredibly exciting to me (as does NYC, by the way)

And yes---you REALLY do need some Mare pickups for any tele you have---they are simply unbelievable---maybe I've heard some old vintage ones that might have sounded as good to my ears, but I don't really think I have---I just tell myself that's a possibility because I love old guitars!
Just ask Kenny Blue Ray here---he's played literally hundreds of all types of pickups over the years, and he was so knocked out by the set I had in my parts-o-caster tele he had to get some asap.


dddelta...man, I'd love to figure out how to record and post some sound files---I will make an effort to figure out what I need to get and what to learn---if it ain't that hard, I'll do it---if anyone wants to email or PM me with ideas and knowledge, I'll gladly try and finally figure that out---I know NOTHING---I have a good 1 year old PC, so I'm sure I can do this---I just need a lot of help---in layman's terms!

ac

[jumpnblues]

ac,

I might be able to help you out with the computer recording thing. Shoot me a PM if you need to. I have a Protools setup in my music room and I'm still a relative newbie at it, but it is an incredible bunch of fun. You'll be shocked at the quality of recording you can turn out though, even with limited knowledge. I'll give you my phone number in case you need it.
For anyone else out there thinking about computer recording...you'll love it. But beware...it is habit forming and another avenue for G.A.S. to insidiously creep into your life. ;):cool:

Tom

[KBR]

Hell I could do my 15th cd, If I knew how!

can you record with a low volume and get a Tone?

Maybe me & AC can do a cd all Instrumental, unless we could get Curtis!

[Poppa Stoppa]

He's gonna get chubby.....:worriedHe's chubby ALREADY!

RYGUY - my son is a veteran traveller of S America and tells me that Argentine steaks are the BEST bar none - is that right?

[THINSOCKS]

Alright, here comes a sales pitch. One of my best friends (and neighbor) just put out a 4 volume set of all Big Jay McNeely's 40's & 50's recordings + live stuff and rarities. What makes these CDs different then the European comps that are on the market right now is that Big Jay actually gets money for these CDs (In fact, he gets just about all of it). Plus, there is some cool live stuff that has never seen the light of day and liner notes by Jim Dawson (same guy who does most of those great liner notes for ACE records out of England). You can go to CD Baby if your interested.

http://cdbaby.com/cd/bigjay1

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/frankiethetut/bigjay1.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/frankiethetut/bigjay2.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/frankiethetut/bigjay3.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/frankiethetut/bigjay5.jpg

[Ryguy]

AC: Thanks for the welcome, but I check in every once in a while, and use to skulk on the original FDP thread. Argentina is definitely an interesting place to live; Buenos Aires is a huge city with a great cultural offering, and the place is full of good musicians. Plus its relatively cheap to record. I've cut two CD's down here with EMI's Argentine "branch" and was able to get a bunch of really good musicians to record for virtually nothing!

I currently have a partscaster with a an old gibson mini hum in the neck, and Harmonic Design vintage plus and S90 in the middle and bridge positions, and I love it; it screams, and is very versatile (also has the out of phase (series) mod. But I would also like to get a more traditional tele together as well, and am thinking of Don's pups for it.

Poppa: the beef down here is all that it is cracked up to be. The cuts are killer, and the beef itself is generally really tender and tasty. Apparently the grass in "La Pampa" where they graze is unique. BBQ's here are like a religious event.

There are also a freakish amount of really beautiful women here. It can get depressing sometimes.

Here is a pic of the tele: partscasters are the s**t.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p173/rygalli/telebigsby.jpg


KBR: Do you know Terry Hiatt from Redwood City? I lived in the Bay Area for a couple of years and he worked on a ton of guitars for me. Not a blues player, but the man could plaaaay, and did great work!

[Ryguy]

THINSOCKS: I have some Big Jay Mcneely from an R&B sax anthology; didn't he also play harp? I think I have a couple of cuts of him playing some smoking stuff on an old harp compilation.

[KBR]

I met Terry Hiatt, I prefer Terry Hanck. (Heard of him?)
Nice Tele, I like Mini Hums, too.
I dislike Beef, I know Nitro's Wife Sylvia from Argentina, NICE!

[Ryguy]

KBR: Don't know Terry Hank. Beef is OK, but beautiful wives are special. (I got me a keeper) I love mini-hums. My other main squeeze is an Epi Riviera with mini's that sounds like a cross between and 335 and a tele. I;m sorry I missed your jams at the Little Fox, I lived 5 minutes away for about a year and moved right before they started.

AC: speaking of people we know, do you know Lloyd Jones? I played with his nephew (drummer) for several years in a band I a had in Indiana. I met Lloyd a couple of time, he was a nice dude, and all around good musician. I was always dissapointed he didn't get more exposure. That man also had a KILLER record collection.

[THINSOCKS]

THINSOCKS: I have some Big Jay Mcneely from an R&B sax anthology; didn't he also play harp? I think I have a couple of cuts of him playing some smoking stuff on an old harp compilation.

Nope, Big Jay just plays the sax. That's probably George Harmonica Smith on harmonica that you hear. There is a live Big Jay LP (Live from Cisco's) from the late 60's that George "Harmonica" Smith played on. I think it just recently came out on CD too.

[Ryguy]

I just checked it out, it is a compilation from Moonshine records called "A Taste of Harp" and it has two live tracks from 1963 credited to Big Jay: You Don't Have To Go, and Furhter Up the Road. They publishers may have got it wrong, but the playing even sounds swinging and bruising like a tenor player.

The compliation also has some other rare choice cuts, including two by a guy named Tommy Louis that have just smoke.

[THINSOCKS]

I just checked it out, it is a compilation from Moonshine records called "A Taste of Harp" and it has two live tracks from 1963 credited to Big Jay: You Don't Have To Go, and Furhter Up the Road. They publishers may have got it wrong, but the playing even sounds swinging and bruising like a tenor player.

The compliation also has some other rare choice cuts, including two by a guy named Tommy Louis that have just smoke.

Yeah, that's George "Harmonica" Smith on harp. I'm 100% positive about it. Here's the link to the CD

http://www.bluebeatmusic.com/index.php?main_page=product_music_info&products_id=3911

I know Big Jay pretty well and I can assure you he does not play harmonica. Although he does play the flute really well.

[Ryguy]

Yeah I just read the blurb from the LP, and its credit is pretty vague. Plus, it sounds like George Smith now that I think about it. Is Big Jay still alive?

Many of the tenor players I know player flute as well. I love hearing them switch back and forth, and here the different aproach to the different instruments but with the same vocab. BTW, thanks for the link, I will pick up that CD, the two tracks I have sound great.

[THINSOCKS]

Yeah I just read the blurb from the LP, and its credit is pretty vague. Plus, it sounds like George Smith now that I think about it. Is Big Jay still alive?

Many of the tenor players I know player flute as well. I love hearing them switch back and forth, and here the different aproach to the different instruments but with the same vocab. BTW, thanks for the link, I will pick up that CD, the two tracks I have sound great.

Yeah, Big Jay is still alive and still gigging. In fact he just turned 80 a few months back. I've gotten to gig with him a lot over the last 6 years and he always suprises me with the amount of energy he still has.

[zappafrank]

Hell I could do my 15th cd, If I knew how!

can you record with a low volume and get a Tone?

Maybe me & AC can do a cd all Instrumental, unless we could get Curtis!

Jeez Kenny---my heart just stopped!--What the hell?---YEAH I'd love to record some tracks with you!---I'll keep working on the vocals---and I've got 6 or 7 songs almost finished lyrically (just been on a writing binge)---I really hate superficial blues cliche' lyrics, so I have to make them as personal as I can, or as 'clever' as I can---it's not easy---usually have to sit back after I've revised em' 4 or 5 times, and then go back and see if they are OK ---but CURTIS is the man with the throat, for sho'!!!

I'd do it in a nanosecond! Just say when and where!:D

I'll respond a little later to RyGuy and Tom---

But 1st---guess what just got 'saved'?---the PEE WEE strat!!

I put the Mare Watson set in---played my 64' strat for about 20 minutes at decent volume, just to get those VERY sweet, organic tones in my head for comparison (though the PW's a Maple board w/ash, I know...)

Then plugged in the PW with the Watson's for the very first time---played an open E on the neck pickup---bummer---kinda muddy and no volume--then I looked down and forgot that I had yet to make ANY adjustments on pickup height yet!!!---They were all WAY down, I swear over a half an inch---so I've been messing with that for about 10 more minutes and MAN!!!! Pushes the front of the amp--clarity, no thinness AT ALL--and just as lively as my Tele now---especially that bridge which really needed the most help---not as 'sweet' as my 64' (NOTHING is---that's the Ronnie Earl tone right in thar--) But FAT, Juicy lucy, open, Sparkly with that 'special sauce'---OK---that's the 'Honeymoon' review---I'll be taking it out tomorrow thru a tweed amp and tank---that will be the BIG test---

THANK YOU DON MARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You saved it from the block, after 3 different sets in that thing!--WahHoo!

Pssst--super nice 1998 light White Blonde 57' USA Reissue Strat now officially on the block---all gold hardware (that I put on--even the bridge springs and intonation screws are gold--hate those black ones..) I have all the Nickle parts, too--frets are medium jumbos that someone had put on there---feel real good

always let you guys know first---;)

ac

[KBR]

AC,

Bring that sucker out, Robbie Laws and I are at the Country Inn/ Tualatin tonight.

I once played with Harmonica George Smith, (thanks to Bill Clarke)
also Terry Hanck is an awesome Sax player and a vocalist in the Curtis Salgado school of bein Awesome! His old Guitaris was Kid Anderson, He know uses Johnny Cat, Butch Cousins on Drums (Richard Cousins Bro)

[zappafrank]

AC,

Bring that sucker out, Robbie Laws and I are at the Country Inn/ Tualatin tonight.

I once played with Harmonica George Smith, (thanks to Bill Clarke)
also Terry Hanck is an awesome Sax player and a vocalist in the Curtis Salgado school of bein Awesome! His old Guitaris was Kid Anderson, He know uses Johnny Cat, Butch Cousins on Drums (Richard Cousins Bro)


I'll be there, man---

Crap---I need a date---this sittin' in stuff is gettin' old! :roll;)

ac

[jumpnblues]

Guys? Are you up? I'll get some bacon and eggs goin'

Tom

[RickyKing]

Ah,we are back....

[musicofanatic5]

Guys? Are you up? I'll get some bacon and eggs goin'

Tom
I like my eggs over easy, and my bacon crisp. Thanks for not waking me before noon. I got home late from the gig last night, and will have the same tonight! Hey-any Ct. types: Black Eyed Sally's tonight; c'mon down!

[zappafrank]

Tom---sounds delish, but not on the 'plan' at the moment--thanks anyway!

RyGuy---You bet I know Lloyd Jones---he is one of the 2 or 3 A-team locals here---has a great little Monday night gig at a VERY small place in NE Portland called Halibuts, and his sit-down solo guitar/vocal thing is just as cool, if not cooler, than his killer greasy band thing---just funky and stinky---I love lloyd, man---one of the greats---he sure has a lot of nephews! Is that Paul Jones you are talkin' about (drums)?

KBR thanks for being willing to hurt yer back playing the Pee Wee---even at that real low volume you had, I could tell that it sounds WAY better than before---I'll dial in a bit more 'push' by raising those Mare pickups (I'd spent a full half hour setting em' just at the edge of funky, not fat, neccessarily...) and get a new switchtip today (the 2 or 3 'Daka Ware' tele switches I had just keep getting lost---too loose--I'll just get a regular one now)---kind of a typical Sports Bar scene there, huh? ---and, if I may be REAL blunt---rhythm section was 'suspect' at best...You and Robbie sounded real good though---and thanks for lettin' me sit in---although I should never do that on 3 hours of sleep.

I got back to my apartment, and some a**hole(s) had dumped a very large bag of disgusting trash (all from a a Fast Food joint, like a Taco Bell---Taco Del Mar) all over pushed up against my door---just gross---pop, cheese, chips, crap---someone had to take it from at least half a mile away and drop it there---combine that with last weekend getting 'dosed' with something in my Diet Pepsi I left sitting out at the Trail's End, and I'm thinkin' I have made an enemy somewhere---come out, come out, wherever you are, you little squirrely CHICKENS**T!!! There's a parking lot right outside with yer name on it....GRRRRRR!

ac

[zappafrank]

( I know---it could just be random acts/coincidence...)

ac

[jumpnblues]

Hey ac, Kenny, and everybody else...just sent Lou the balance of the money for my new Louis Electric, one off, KR-12/10. He's gonna' ship it next Thurs. 7/5. Don't know if I can sleep until then. I'm as happy as a littol lily! :dude:dude:RoCkIn

Tom

[KBR]

12/10 that's what Elmo used, Tom.
Should be a Keeper.

[jumpnblues]

Yeah, Kenny, it's only the second amp I've owned with EL-34's. I had a Matchless Clubman 35 for awhile. Great tone but not my tone. I've always been a 6L6 guy and thought that EL-34's were for rock and roll guys with Marshall stacks. I've found out that's not necessarily true. If it even sounds as good as the single 12" version I'll be very happy. :cool::cool:

Tom

[jumpnblues]

Man, this place is dead today. People giggin', I hope? :cool::cool:

Tom

[bluesjuke]

Flood watching today.
Got to protest that gear ya' know.

[DonM]

did I tell yas about the latest?

take a blues Jr. amp and two new 10" Jensen 8 ohm NEO magnet speakers wire them to 4 ohms plug the BJ into them and floor every dial on that amp.

and stand back about ten feet and melt and go to tone heaven..

not bs-in this is insanely great tone.. and not only that its got HEADROOM and its totally usable onstage with a LOUD BAND..

I'm going to install two BJ heads into one cab with 4 Jensen Neos - each amp runs 2 speakers and I'm split into two amps somehow..

this way each amp runs its own 2 speakers, and I will be able to adjust in a wide variety of mixed tones..

the heads are light weight and so are these speakers so the over all box should be not bad weight wise..

don

[TwoFeets]

We played an outdoor gig in what felt like 95 degree, 95% humidity yesterday... in what is widely regarded as one of the redneck capitals of the world.

It was interesting, to say the least.

At one point, this really insanely drunk guy came up to me and said what sounded to me like "Bleauuuurrrrrrrgh." It must have had something to do with my gear, because he was pointing at my rig. No idea what he meant; I just nodded and smiled.

[rhartt1234]

At one point, this really insanely drunk guy came up to me and said what sounded to me like "Bleauuuurrrrrrrgh." It must have had something to do with my gear, because he was pointing at my rig. No idea what he meant; I just nodded and smiled.

That guy comes to our gigs all the time. His buddy usually tries to grab my harps and give em a toot too.

[Schwalbe]

Oh THOSE guys!

[Strat-O]

We played an outdoor gig in what felt like 95 degree, 95% humidity yesterday... in what is widely regarded as one of the redneck capitals of the world.

It was interesting, to say the least.

At one point, this really insanely drunk guy came up to me and said what sounded to me like "Bleauuuurrrrrrrgh." It must have had something to do with my gear, because he was pointing at my rig. No idea what he meant; I just nodded and smiled.

:) What a riot. You just described my gig Saturday. Outdoor fest in a small redneck town. Confederate flags everyone. Even the good looking women still didn't look quite right.

[Strat-O]

I'm going to install two BJ heads into one cab with 4 Jensen Neos - each amp runs 2 speakers and I'm split into two amps somehow..



Don - Spooky. :crazyguyI've been thinking about doing the same exact thing now for a good while. I was thinking about a V-front tweed Twin style cabinet and just using two 12's. Not hooking the amps together though, just having two independent amps in one cab. Killer tone with great sound dispersion in a light package.

[TwoFeets]

:) What a riot. You just described my gig Saturday. Outdoor fest in a small redneck town. Confederate flags everyone. Even the good looking women still didn't look quite right.

LOL! The entire parking lot was tricked-out pickup trucks. I drove in with my family sedan and I felt REALLY out of place.

[frank62]

^To you guys whose crowd is a bunch of truck driving redneck drinkers.. what does that say about you? I am assuming you guys are playing blues, right? I get the feeling you may think you are somehow to good to be playing for "those people" . Be happy you have a gig and draw any kind of crowd. I see a lot of bitching about playing for drinkers, drug users, and smokers on this board eveyday. WTF, if it is so disgusting then pack it in. Just what kind of crowd would suit you ideal of the way it should be? I am sure you all have seen the recent photo of a "crowd". Hah, must have been a non drinking, no smoking, no partying and fun allowed event.

[Dave Orban]

Me, I'm happy to play for ANY appreciative crowd. That is all. ;)

[TwoFeets]

^To you guys whose crowd is a bunch of truck driving redneck drinkers.. what does that say about you? I am assuming you guys are playing blues, right? I get the feeling you may think you are somehow to good to being playing for "those people" . Be happy you have a gig and draw any kind of crowd. I see a lot of bitching about playing for drinkers, drug users, and smokers on this board eveyday. WTF, if it is so disgusting then pack it in. Just what kind of crowd would suit you ideal of the way it should be? I am sure you all have seen the recent photo of a "crowd". Hah, must have been a non drinking, no smoking, no partying and fun allowed event.

I think there's only one guy here making assumptions, Frank. Either that, or reading something into it that isn't there.

[jimfog]

^To you guys whose crowd is a bunch of truck driving redneck drinkers.. what does that say about you? I am assuming you guys are playing blues, right? I get the feeling you may think you are somehow to good to be playing for "those people" . Be happy you have a gig and draw any kind of crowd. I see a lot of bitching about playing for drinkers, drug users, and smokers on this board eveyday. WTF, if it is so disgusting then pack it in. Just what kind of crowd would suit you ideal of the way it should be? I am sure you all have seen the recent photo of a "crowd". Hah, must have been a non drinking, no smoking, no partying and fun allowed event.

Wait just one minute, Buster!!!

As musicians it's our god-given right...hell, DUTY......to complain that we deserve a bigger audience.........then, in the next breath, complain about the QUALITY of the audience we do have..............

.........just as we can bitch over and over about no gigs.....then when they do roll in, bitch about being TOO busy!

Inconsistent, you say? Flakey?

I like to think of it as "Artistic"!

- Jim

PS......next you're going to say we can't struggle our entire lives to get out on tour doing what we love..........then write songs about how tough and hard "the road" is!!!!!

[Echo Are]

But a lot of the drunk audience members are pretty funny(as long they don't bother ya), especially when they try to verbally communicate with you the musician. I usually get stuff like:

"Mumblemumble yeeeeaaaaaaahhhhhhhhgggghhhh uuuuuggghhhggglllghthtr gooooood........thas really gooooooooooooooooood blurpblurp yeaaaaaahh!"

[Strat-O]

^To you guys whose crowd is a bunch of truck driving redneck drinkers.. what does that say about you? I am assuming you guys are playing blues, right? I get the feeling you may think you are somehow to good to be playing for "those people" . Be happy you have a gig and draw any kind of crowd. I see a lot of bitching about playing for drinkers, drug users, and smokers on this board eveyday. WTF, if it is so disgusting then pack it in. Just what kind of crowd would suit you ideal of the way it should be? I am sure you all have seen the recent photo of a "crowd". Hah, must have been a non drinking, no smoking, no partying and fun allowed event.


Huh? What the? Yeah, I do have a problem with a bunch of stinking toothless neanderthal racist rednecks. I don't find confederate flags and all the other racist shit paraphanalia that I saw on sale all over the festival acceptable at all. Ten year olds running around with "the south will rise again" t-shirts on. I guess I'm just not hardcore enough for you huh? I think you should take the bad attitude somewhere else. Obviously you weren't there and decided to take a pessimistic approach. I don't think any of the artists who's tunes we covered would have enjoyed standing on the stage where I was standing and looking at that garbage either. But then again, Howlin' Wolf probably wouldn't have been hired as the blues band for this gig.

On a lighter note, anyone who's been playing live music on a stage for any period of time knows that you are the crowds entertainment for the night and the crowd is your entertainment for the night. Its just part of the good natured fun that everybody has. Nobody said they were looking down on "the people". I laugh at myself and laugh at other people. Drunks are very entertaining, always have been and they always will be.

[Scott Miller]

"Mumblemumble yeeeeaaaaaaa hhhhhhhhgggghhhh uuuuuggghhhggglllghthtr gooooood........thas really gooooooooooooooooood blurpblurp yeaaaaaahh!"

When you put it that way, a drunk audience member sounds exactly like a drunk musician.

[frank62]

^ What bad attitude man? You were the one who posted about your distaste of your crowd, not me. That crowd came to hear you so again what does that say about the crowd you draw? Then you proceed to group folks from the south in a very unfair perspective. You call that a good attutude?

[Strat-O]

You came looking to start trouble and I've got better things to do than argue with a total stranger about issues outside of music. I don't even argue with my friends about things like this. If you looking to lecture someone you've picked the wrong guy.

I've got nothing else to say to you.

[valcotone]

Soooo, on another note... what cool new (or old) music have you guys discovered recently?

[TwoFeets]

Soooo, on another note... what cool new (or old) music have you guys discovered recently?

Right-o Sean, I was thinking the same thing.

I have actually busied myself messing around with iTunes, believe it or not. Not much on the new music front yet, I've been working on putting my existing stuff in there and getting familiar with it.

[THINSOCKS]

Soooo, on another note... what cool new (or old) music have you guys discovered recently?

Smooth transition, Sean. Ha-Ha.

I just recently "discovered" George Van Eps. Man, I wish I could play chord solos like that.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=cfTtjBpIE5E

[Scott Miller]

"...cool new (or old) music ..."

Frankie Lee Sims... sounds like a bunch of hungry drunks banging around in the kitchen at 3 AM. It's just awesome.

Willie the Lion Smith, Echoes of Spring.

And a rediscovery; I was going over a tune with my singer, and I heard this incredible sound, this bestial noise from another planet... Johnny Guitar Watson yanking on the strings. I think he just changed my life, again.

[TwoFeets]

"...

Frankie Lee Sims... sounds like a bunch of hungry drunks banging around in the kitchen at 3 AM. It's just awesome.

Frankie Lee - funny man, at our last gig Leroy was talking about Frankie Lee Sims. Apparently Leroy spent some time in HIS band as well, circa mid-50's after Leroy got out of the Army and before he joined Ray's band.
I'm starting to wonder if there's anyone that came out of Texas that Leroy DIDN'T spend time playing with.

[THINSOCKS]

"...cool new (or old) music ..."

Frankie Lee Sims... sounds like a bunch of hungry drunks banging around in the kitchen at 3 AM. It's just awesome.


The Specialty sides or the stuff on ACE? The ACE sides are probably some of my favorite blues recordings. The drummer on all of that was this guy Mercy Baby who wrote the song "Marked Deck" - which the T-Birds covered. Cool song and some pretty wicked guitar sounds on all of the Frankie Lee songs.

[GOLDENSTRAT]

Yeah, I-tunes is handy but has a relatively shallow database for many of the artists we listen to. A fun west coast cd that I dig is "That Left Coast is Swinging" from Pacicfic Blues 1999. Jimmie Vaughan and Omar Dykes have a cd coming out on Ruf records in August. Actually, i have been digging on Jimmie's solo cds - George Rains and Bill Willis are an amazing rhythm section, mostly shuffles but very powerful grooves. Have a couple Bruce Katz band cds that are very good too. Intense like Bruce and Ronnie Earl but maybe more NOLA and jazz.
When I saw JW Jones the other week, he had a tweed Bassman with a master volume and piece of plywood to block the sound somewhat and he wore earplugs. It was a cute little ol' bar near my house with all your materials represented - tiled floor, paneling , rug and boiler plate on the walls.
Scott, which Frankie Lee cds do you have? My fun thing to do lately is Slim Harpo grooves with JGW style guitar. The early Gatemouth and JGW sound is pretty hard to beat. fred

[Scott Miller]

Frankie Lee Sims on ACE... now that's interesting. I have the Specialty CD, and one that was cut in 1960, but neither of those quite compare to the stuff included on THE CRAZE: KINGS OF DISTORTION VOL. 1, which is the ACE stuff. That's the total shiznit right there, all four tracks of it, but I can't find any more.

[THINSOCKS]

Frankie Lee Sims on ACE... now that's interesting. I have the Specialty CD, and one that was cut in 1960, but neither of those quite compare to the stuff included on THE CRAZE: KINGS OF DISTORTION VOL. 1, which is the ACE stuff. That's the total shiznit right there, all four tracks of it, but I can't find any more.

You want this

http://cgi.ebay.com/ACE-BLUES-MASTERS-VOL-2-4th-and-Beale-CD-New_W0QQitemZ4822131426QQcmdZViewItem

It has all the Frankie Lee ACE stuff and the Mercy Baby sides that were cut at the same session. Plus, you get some Joe Hill Louis and Big Boy Crudup.

[Dave Orban]

You came looking to start trouble and I've got better things to do than argue with a total stranger about issues outside of music. I don't even argue with my friends about things like this. If you looking to lecture someone you've picked the wrong guy.

I've got nothing else to say to you.
Frankly, I didn't think that Frank was looking to "start trouble"...

Just sayin'... ;)

[Scott Miller]

Damn, Thinksocks, that's what I call service! Thanks! I got it.

[jimfog]

Frankly, I didn't think that Frank was looking to "start trouble"...

Just sayin'... ;)

What, now YOU'RE gonna be startin' somethin' here, Orban???? Professor INSTIGATOR, I presume?!?!??!

:nono

- Jim

PS......guys, I understand Dave's been holding out on us......a little bird has told me that he's gonna be doing some gigs backing Harman, soon. Spill it, brother!

[jetlag]

Thinsocks, thanks AGAIN. I think you are batting 1000 when it comes to music recommendations. Dave, congrads - I know you've mention those dates coming up, but I had no idea when. I'm sure we'll all look forward to hearing how they go.

[valcotone]

Frankly, I didn't think that Frank.....

:crazyguy

[GOLDENSTRAT]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLsR0VmPJUM Some cool clips of Phil Guy in the USSR ( do they still call it that?) . Some of that good 'ol tele with fingers sound.
My family is gone on vacation and I am experimenting with eating old food, not a good plan. fred

[rhartt1234]

I've had my eye on that "4th & Beale" for a long time.

Let's play "Stump Thinsocks"

Frank, do you have....this?!
http://g-ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/413HENY5A4L._SS500_.jpg
I got it for $4.99 at FYE. It's like a sore d!ck. Ya can't beat it.

[THINSOCKS]

I've had my eye on that "4th & Beale" for a long time.

Let's play "Stump Thinsocks"

Frank, do you have....this?!
http://g-ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/413HENY5A4L._SS500_.jpg
I got it for $4.99 at FYE. It's like a sore d!ck. Ya can't beat it.

Ok, not to brag, but I do have that. I got it for the same price and I got it at FYE. Ryan, do you know what the deal is with these cd's? I bought this at the Auburn Mall the last time I was back in Maine. Is FYE a East Coast chain? The store had like 20 cds in thier "Blues" section and half of them were these $5 budget Cds of all this obscure stuff. I think I ended up buying like 5 or 6 of them, but I probably should have bought them all.

[GOLDENSTRAT]

I got that one for the same price at a new/used chain called Second Spin.

[nc slim]

When I saw nemeth Wes the drummer told me the new record is a Jimmie Reed tribute w Derek Obrien, Kim and others He was hot about the release they will tour and be on Austin City Limits. Love that Reed stuff w the great Eddie taylor. Speaking of the aces I saw a new (old one I am sure) just coming out w Rob Jr w Aces in Blues revue. Does any body know if this was a good session.

By the way the best wild audiences are w girls flashing us blues guys gotta love that. Also an old guitar player tip "Always face you and amp towards girls room". I think that came from Sam Myers altho he supposedly could not see he always would turn his head at a pretty girl.

[GOLDENSTRAT]

Heres' a link to the cd. http://www.rufrecords.de/news/84_omar-kent-dykes-and-jimmie-vaughans-jimmy-reed-highway.html
I was hoping they would be on ACL. Should be a good one to record. fred

[rhartt1234]

Ok, not to brag, but I do have that. I got it for the same price and I got it at FYE. Ryan, do you know what the deal is with these cd's? I bought this at the Auburn Mall the last time I was back in Maine. Is FYE a East Coast chain? The store had like 20 cds in thier "Blues" section and half of them were these $5 budget Cds of all this obscure stuff. I think I ended up buying like 5 or 6 of them, but I probably should have bought them all.

Ahhhhhhhh! I lose!:BITCH

I assume Acrobat is another English label, like JSP and Proper,
using the 50 year copyright expiration and release CDs with songs that are pre 1957 and now in the English public domain.

FYE is formerly Record Town, but no one under 25 knows what a "record" is unless it is preceded by the word "police". So it is FYE "For Your Entertainment" IT BLOWS for Blues!!! At one time they put the Blues in with the Jazz making browsing all but impossible. But like you said it's the only place I've seen the Acrobat stuff. I have the aforementioned CD, "California Blues" which features more uptown stuff like Charles Brown Roy Milton, etc. "Divas Sing The Blues" with a bunch of chick singers, "Boppers and the Blues" with McShann, Bill Broonzy and Rubberlegs Williams, and a Lowell Fulson compilation with his earliest stuff. I've seen a few others too.

I checked out their website. They've got some good stuff!
http://www.acrobatmusic.net/id27.html

[rhartt1234]

All right Frank you wanna play hardball?

Do you have...this?!
http://www.kiwi-us.com/%7Eslim/no_time_for_jive.jpg

or...this?!
http://www.wirz.de/music/spivey/grafik/10341.jpg

or...this?!
San Francisco Blues Festival Vol. 2 (http://cgi.ebay.com/VARIOUS-San-Francisco-Blues-Festival-Vol-2-blues_W0QQitemZ4877376543QQcmdZViewItem)
(I couldn't find a picture online:jo)

or...this?!
http://www.wirz.de/music/robinson/grafik/20074.jpg
me neither, but I couldn't find a picture of Vol. 2 which I do have.

or how about this...
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000000DOD.01._SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg
on CASSETTE!!!!!!

or this
http://www.angelfire.com/blues/williamclarke/Graphics/Misc/Boat3.JPG
Well...that's from William Clarke's "Rockin the Boat" also on Cassette!

And do you have 3 copies of Steely Dan "Pretzel Logic" on vinyl?
HA! I thought not! What a loser!!!!:moon

Now that I just went through it I realize my music collection is really lame. I've dedicated over half my life and a small fortune, that I never had in the first place, to lameness. Not to mention that it's all because of a worthless, disposable instrument that was made to play polkas and drinking songs and most people think is a toy and Bob Dylan is really good at!!!!

My life is a waste!!!!!

If there weren't half priced drafts involved I pack the whole music thing in.

Go back to your windings this, and pickups that, speakers and tubes and rednecks here there and everywhere. That makes me less sad. Bored, but still less sad.

[dukeh62]

Well...that's from William Clarke's "Rockin the Boat" also on Cassette!

And do you have 3 copies of Steely Dan "Pretzel Logic" on vinyl?
HA! I thought not! What a loser!!!!:moon

Now that I just went through it I realize my music collection is really lame. I've dedicated over half my life and a small fortune, that I never had in the first place, to lameness. Not to mention that it's all because of a worthless, disposable instrument that was made to play polkas and drinking songs and most people think is a toy and Bob Dylan is really good at!!!!

My life is a waste!!!!!

If there weren't half priced drafts involved I pack the whole music thing in.

Go back to your windings this, and pickups that, speakers and tubes and rednecks here there and everywhere. That makes me less sad. Bored, but still less sad.

Woah...speaking from firsthand experience, I'd say Ryan's been drinkin' tonight.

[rhartt1234]

No. just a sober reaction to all the gear talk lately.
I wish I was drinking. I've got one beer to last me the whole 4th of July. Not counting the case of Budweiser in the closet but that's in case there's a hurricane or earthquake and I need something to flush the toilet with.
Take THAT rednecks! I just insulted your beer.

[nmontz]

pfft.....

Everybody knows rednecks drink bush lite! Least round here that is the beverage of choice. :-)

At the Mississippi Valley Blues Fest this past weekend I saw a bass player on stage drinking a can of Miller High Life! Ha, the old school farmers around here drink that stuff or pabst blue ribbon warm pulled from behind the seat in their pickups on a 100 degree day! I'm not kidding either!! Bud...thats for pretty boys....don't worry you didn't insult any of us rednecks on this thread! Least this one!

nmontz....who lives in middle of nowhere IOWA. I don't think there is EVEN a bar within 30 square miles of here that carries any imports. ;-)

['56 Merc]

I just came across this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQsBuaSLHqw&mode=related&search=


Do you have your flag out?

[HappyValley]

I just came across this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQsBuaSLHqw&mode=related&search=


Do you have your flag out?

Yeah Merc!! YEAH!!!:AOK Great post. Happy 4th!

[cigpow]

I just came across this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQsBuaSLHqw&mode=related&search=


Do you have your flag out?

Yea man, Barney is one BAD dude:BEER

[GOLDENSTRAT]

Great clip Merc!! After that one, this popped up with Grant Green, Barney Kessel and Kenny Burrell trading licks for 7:30 min! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKW40qCeql8
Happy Fourth, yall. fred

[jumpnblues]

Hey Backalley,

Killer vid!! There's a 70-something year old guy in my home town (Don Blew), plays like that. An incredible treasure that has cut some big names very severely. Has a couple of CD's with jazz pianist Dan Knight. There might be a sample on Dan's website, I'm not sure.


nmontz,

Now y'er walkin' on the fightin' side o' me! :eek:;) Iowa is too somewhere! Why. right'cheer in Ottumwa is the blues capitol of the world...all 2 of us. And it's the hometown of blues ofishunaahdo Tom Arnold. And Radar O'Reilly too. And besides that we're between the Atlantic and Specific Oceans. See there?!! Next time stink before ya' speak. :crazy:NUTS

Tom

[zappafrank]

I just came across this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQsBuaSLHqw&mode=related&search=


Do you have your flag out?

That was KILLER! Thanks, 56'...

( I have to be honest---the only flags I have out are my Tibetan prayer flags---but I have an American Flag on my car---to remind me everyday to keep trying to make the best even better--:AOK)

Irony: The flag is on a Chevy HHR---which was touted in Chev ads as "An American Revolution"----where was it made?---Mexico!!!:BITCH:worried:jo

Happy 4th---Revolution is a good thing!

ac

[zappafrank]

Hey Ry, Thinsocks---

I have that Clarke album, and Diggin' My Potatoes, Can't You Hear Me Callin'---Harman's Those Dangerous Gents (on CASSETTE---in fact, I have a LOT of Black Top stuff on Cassette), Jump My Baby, Fats on Blue vinyl (Ok, my bud has that one, but I'm lusting after it---)

You guys have MUCH more rare stuff---I have that Thompson/'Magic Sam' CD SOMEWHERE, and I'll look for more rare thangs---oh Sonny Boy II 4CD set on Charley---a prize in my collection---just killer
Don and Dewey on Vinyl---man, time to dig through some OLD stuff I have around--

I have something I KNOW you don't have---
a vinyl 'soundie' of the announcement of my birth! My granparents owned KASH radio station in Eugene for many years, and had a segment once or twice a week called 'Storklines', where they announced 'arrivals' from the Hospital baby ward---and there I am, crying away on a 78!!!!!!!

talk about the WEIRDEST thing to hear on a 'Trendy Chemical Amusement Aid'!!!---hey, I was 17 or so--

ac

[nmontz]

Jumpnblues.....Ottumwa has 25,000 people....making it a big metropolitan area compaired to the 110 people in my rural postal code. In which the only two businesses left are the grain elevator and the post office itself. We got one pair of stoplights in the whole county. I'm not saying Iowa is not somewhere...I'm saying I live in the middle of nowhere in the middle of a cornfield bout an hr. drive from anywhere. I was stinkin'... we just must have had a missunderstanding on where exactly nowhere is! :-) By the way I'm plenty happy to be livin here too!!

[THINSOCKS]

Ryan, - Ok, looks like you got me on that round. I don't have some of those records. Now do you have all three of those Walter records?.... 'cause I do. ;)

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/frankiethetut/P1010003.jpg

how about these?

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/frankiethetut/P1010004.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/frankiethetut/P1010007.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/frankiethetut/P1010011.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/frankiethetut/P1010010.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/frankiethetut/P1010008.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/frankiethetut/P1010009.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/frankiethetut/P1010012.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/frankiethetut/P1010013.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/frankiethetut/P1010005.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/frankiethetut/IMG_4552.jpg

[THINSOCKS]

I just came across this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQsBuaSLHqw&mode=related&search=


Do you have your flag out?

Wow. That has to be one of the coolest things posted om here in a long time. Thanks for the heads up!

[rhartt1234]

Ryan, - Ok, looks like you got me on that round. I don't have some of those records. Now do you have all three of those Walter records?.... 'cause I do. ;)

No just the one. I think that's the only one that has stuff that hasn't been released on CD: The two tunes with the Coronets, "Come Back Baby" and a "Temperature" alternate.

I knew I couldn't compete with you. That's why it was called "Stump Thinksocks" and not "Stump Ryan" But I think we have to factor in geographical differences relating to availability of cool LPs. Stuff like that grows on trees in LA. Here in suburban CT...not so much. And when I lived in LA buying vinyl wasn't a priority (I didn't even own a turntable then) but eating and paying rent were. And even those fell by the wayside on occasion. Hell I'll bet, like me, you were playing catch up your first couple of years in LA. "What? You don't have 'Bricks In My Pillow? Ya gotta get it." If you knew who Goree Carter was before you moved to LA, or at least didn't hear about him from someone from LA, I'll name rename my son Tutwiler.

But hey, I don't need to tell you it's not a hipness contest. You'd win anyway. I just like finding out about old records and new-old guys to check out.

We can play "Stump Ryan" with Kung Fu movies.

[zappafrank]

Hey Thinsocks, Ry---I know I can't compete, but i do have that Magic Sam/ Shakey Jake and both of those Guitar in My Hands volumes---

[jumpnblues]

nmontz,

Yeah, I was just razzin' ya'. Actually with the Mexican influx we're probably up to about 30,000 which is gettin' close to where we were in the early 70's before the Morrell meat packing company left town.
But you do live between the Mississippi and Missouri rivers and that's somewhere. ;):AOK

Hey Thinsocks,

Man, what a collection?!!! You're makin' me slavulate, err, soluvat, errr, slivalate, uhhh, you're makin' my mouth water. :drool:drool:cool:

Tom

[zappafrank]

I also have the Shakey Jake with Fats and Piazza--"The Key Won't Fit" on Murray Bros---

[jumpnblues]

Hey ac,

Lou's shippin' the KR-12/10 out Fri. Can't wait. Right now he's experimenting with speakers since mine's gonna' have both a 10" and 12". He's trying to get the best match, then he's going to send the amp with what he likes along with some extra speakers for me to experiment with. What a guy?!! :AOK:AOK
By the way, anyone heard Duke Robillard's new double CD "Duke's World Of Blues"? It's a killer with some really nice "cool jazz" too. I haven't warmed up to all the songs yet (there are some songs that lean slightly in the rock direction) but overall it's a winner. And he uses his Louis Electric amp too...wooohooo!! :dude;):cool: OK, I'll shut up.

Tom

[THINSOCKS]

Hell I'll bet, like me, you were playing catch up your first couple of years in LA. "What? You don't have 'Bricks In My Pillow? Ya gotta get it." If you knew who Goree Carter was before you moved to LA, or at least didn't hear about him from someone from LA, I'll name rename my son Tutwiler.

Exactly. I didn't own a single record till I moved out here. Before then my blues collection was mostly just those black/gold Chess Greatest Hits Cds. "Bricks in My Pillow" was totally a record people kept telling me that I needed to get. The first year I was out here my Saturdays were basically Tito's Tacos, Rhino Records, Record Surplus, Atomic Records and then to the Cafe Boogaloo. I got lucky about 5 years ago when a friend of Charlie Lang's (and his best customer) sold Charlie his blues LP collection (I guess he was a car guy and just had to have some old hotrod). It was all really hip stuff and Charlie called me up and let me have first crack at all of it. It was like 2,000 LPs and I ended up buying about 2k worth of records over the course of two months. As far as Goree Carter goes, I heard about him the first time I went to Watson's house and he had this weird record sitting next to the turntable.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/frankiethetut/P7040001.jpg

[THINSOCKS]

Anyone have a clue what guitar BB is playing in this picture?

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/frankiethetut/P7040002.jpg

[zappafrank]

Hey ac,

Lou's shippin' the KR-12/10 out Fri. Can't wait. Right now he's experimenting with speakers since mine's gonna' have both a 10" and 12". He's trying to get the best match, then he's going to send the amp with what he likes along with some extra speakers for me to experiment with. What a guy?!! :AOK:AOK
By the way, anyone heard Duke Robillard's new double CD "Duke's World Of Blues"? It's a killer with some really nice "cool jazz" too. I haven't warmed up to all the songs yet (there are some songs that lean slightly in the rock direction) but overall it's a winner. And he uses his Louis Electric amp too...wooohooo!! :dude;):cool: OK, I'll shut up.

Tom

That's awesome, Tom---I hope you really dig that amp---and thanks for the heads up on the new Duke release!---I had'nt a clue--

Time to head down to the Blues Fest--

ac

[jumpnblues]

Thinsocks,

I'll take a long shot guess...Airline. But I'm not sure they made guitars that long ago. Also there are not enough letters on the headstocks for that to be the name. My best guess though. :confused::cool::cool:

Tom

[valcotone]

duke's World Full Of Blues... all killer no filler :-)

http://www.dukerobillard.com/store/secure/popup3.htm

[dukeh62]

Exactly. I didn't own a single record till I moved out here. Before then my blues collection was mostly just those black/gold Chess Greatest Hits Cds. "Bricks in My Pillow" was totally a record people kept telling me that I needed to get. The first year I was out here my Saturdays were basically Tito's Tacos, Rhino Records, Record Surplus, Atomic Records and then to the Cafe Boogaloo. I got lucky about 5 years ago when a friend of Charlie Lang's (and his best customer) sold Charlie his blues LP collection (I guess he was a car guy and just had to have some old hotrod). It was all really hip stuff and Charlie called me up and let me have first crack at all of it. It was like 2,000 LPs and I ended up buying about 2k worth of records over the course of two months. As far as Goree Carter goes, I heard about him the first time I went to Watson's house and he had this weird record sitting next to the turntable.

Frank...just amazing collection, man. Wow!

[musicofanatic5]

Anyone have a clue what guitar BB is playing in this picture?

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/frankiethetut/P7040002.jpg

Damn, I know i've seen an article in Vinnidge Gtr or somewhere explaining that gtr; just can't exactly recall where...? A ten string mandolin on the short neck? How 'bout the gisbon Goree's got there...looks like the ES-5/350 Harmon had.

[Scott Miller]

Mosrite? I think they made a guitar/mando.

Hey, I have two of Thinsocks rarities... Chuck Norris and that Jerry McCain, which is downright hi-sterical.

Um... I have a bunch of 45s from Ghana from the sixties... And all of Lord Kitchener's LPs! Oh, yeah, and my blues 78s collection, which consists of: one Dr. Clayton record.

[Esquire]

musicofanatic5,

Saw you this past Saturday night with Duke at B.E.S. in Hartford. I thought you sounded great with the band. I wanted to say hello and chat in between sets but had to get rolling. Any more gigs with Duke on the horizon?

[TwoFeets]

Damn, I know i've seen an article in Vinnidge Gtr or somewhere explaining that gtr; just can't exactly recall where...? A ten string mandolin on the short neck? How 'bout the gisbon Goree's got there...looks like the ES-5/350 Harmon had.

I have a book at home that *may* have this in it. I'll check it out tonight.

[btg]

The guitar in the Goree Carter picture is one that Sumter Bruton formerly of the Juke Jumpers now owns. I can't remember if he got it from Goree Carter but it seems like he told me he did. It is just like the one Harman had because I do remember Sumter saying that him and James had compared the two.

[Strat-O]

Nice albums! You guys up in the NE and out west ever have any trouble filling out your Bocephus and David Allen Coe collections, you just let me know. We got what you need down south.

:roll

Sorry for the bad joke! I am just kidding!!


Those photos make me want to start buying old records again. Cool.

[Schwalbe]

Nice albums! You guys up in the NE and out west ever have any trouble filling out your Bocephus and David Allen Coe collections, you just let me know. We got what you need down south.

:roll

Sorry for the bad joke! I am just kidding!!


Those photos make me want to start buying old records again. Cool.

Oh shoor, an' up Nort we got da Chimeleski's an' Whoopy John an' all dat der ya knohw.

:roll:crazyguy

[Strat-O]

I got a set of P90's rewound by Don Mare a while back. Been using them for a few weeks now on a bunch of gigs and have a good feel for them. They really sound good, much better than the before the rewind. Killer 50's P90 tone like some others I've heard around these parts. I think he should expand his single coil line into new P90's. These things are great.

[straightblues]

I got a set of P90's rewound by Don Mare ...These things are great.I really like the set he rewound for my R6 as well.

[musicofanatic5]

Oh shoor, an' up Nort we got da Chimeleski's an' Whoopy John an' all dat der ya knohw.

:roll:crazyguy

Even though I actually had to live amongst you freaks up there for a while, that bit still cracks me up, Dan! But, then again, some folks go for that Maine bit, too.
I'm fairly certain B's doubleneck isn't a Moserite (Semie's gtrs, and especially his doublenecks were much more highly ornamented), it seems to me it was a westcoast creation. Maybe. If I had that highspeed internet deal I'd probably be motivated to research this, but...

[TwoFeets]

I looked in my book at home, but I didn't see that particular guitar, unfortunately. The one I was thinking of was a Carvin from the early 60's (yeah they've been around that long!)

[Dave Orban]

What, now YOU'RE gonna be startin' somethin' here, Orban???? Professor INSTIGATOR, I presume?!?!??!

:nono

- Jim

PS......guys, I understand Dave's been holding out on us......a little bird has told me that he's gonna be doing some gigs backing Harman, soon. Spill it, brother!
Yeah, we will indeed be backing up Harman and his guitarist Nathan James, on three gigs:


Thursday, Aug 9, at AJs in Levittown, PA (Bucks County Blues Society)
Friday, Aug 10, at a yet-to-be-determined location in Point Pleasant, NJ
Saturday, Aug 11, at the Wilmington (DE) Riverfront Blues Festival

Needless to say, I'm absolutely stoked at the thought of sharing a stage with both of these fine performers. I'll post more details as the days draw nearer. ;)

[zappafrank]

Yeah, we will indeed be backing up Harman and his guitarist Nathan James, on three gigs:

Thursday, Aug 9, at AJs in Levittown, PA (Bucks County Blues Society)
Friday, Aug 10, at a yet-to-be-determined location in Point Pleasant, NJ
Saturday, Aug 11, at the Wilmington (DE) Riverfront Blues FestivalNeedless to say, I'm absolutely stoked at the thought of sharing a stage with both of these fine performers. I'll post more details as the days draw nearer. ;)

Dave O---that is just freakin' awesome!---You have a great time and tell us lots of stories!

I saw JW Jones, John Nemeth (with a guitar guy from the NE, Mass. area---a Michael, or Matt Stubbs???---Sound familiar to you guys? Ry? Nick?) Sean Carney, Lurrie Bellw/ Pinetop (it was Perkins' 94th Birthday!---The whole festival sang him Happy B-Day while Hubert Sumlin brought out a huge surprise cake out on the stage---just fantastic---)

JW was fantastic, and his band just kicked as well---what a great player, with a great show, totally Pro--played an Epi 335 throgh a Bassman (RI?) and a Reverb Tank---man can really play---just knocked me out)--then again, so did the 5 Blind Boys---what voices!

more later---

ac

[Dave Orban]

Dave O---that is just freakin' awesome!---You have a great time and tell us lots of stories!

Believe me, even the email threads from Harman are stories in themselves... LOL!

[jackrudy]

jackrudy---WELCOME to the coolest blues thread on the TGP---Nay, in tHE WORLD!!!

I am a huge Red Devils/Lester Butler and Blasters fan---as some here can attest---

Nice to have you aboard!---keep us updated and tell us some good stories, Jack!

ac

On Monday, I played a show with the Blue Shadows (formerly the Red Devils -- Rick Rubin owns that name). The original Blasters also played. Dave and Phil were pissed at each other. I gave away 50 XL Blue Shadows tshirts that had been in my closet for years (because nobody wears XL). I've never seen so many happy fat guys in my life. The whole show was filmed and recorded, so I'll post a link when I can.

Anuka, the former Scandanavian model was there, and Johnny Ray reminded us of the time Anuka was hired to push his wheelchair (because he broke his leg) and she wore a naughty nurse uniform.

Gear note: Finding the perfect 12AU7 tube for my preamp tube ($30). Getting burried in the mix for the first 1 1/2 songs (priceless).

[musicofanatic5]

[quote=jackrudy;2678993] The original Blasters also played. Dave and Phil were pissed at each other. [quote]

No!! Whatta surprise!! First time ever!!

[musicofanatic5]

Dave O---that is just freakin' awesome!---You have a great time and tell us lots of stories!

I saw JW Jones, John Nemeth (with a guitar guy from the NE, Mass. area---a Michael, or Matt Stubbs???---Sound familiar to you guys? Ry? Nick?) Sean Carney, Lurrie Bellw/ Pinetop (it was Perkins' 94th Birthday!---The whole festival sang him Happy B-Day while Hubert Sumlin brought out a huge surprise cake out on the stage---just fantastic---)

JW was fantastic, and his band just kicked as well---what a great player, with a great show, totally Pro--played an Epi 335 throgh a Bassman (RI?) and a Reverb Tank---man can really play---just knocked me out)--then again, so did the 5 Blind Boys---what voices!

more later---

ac
Matt Stubbs is a kid gtrist from out here, moved to LA (y'know, like that kid with the t'in socks). Good player, probably much better now that he has removed hisself from this rather nowhere scene and thrown hisself into the real action. Rare to see new englanders leave and not quickly come running back; waytogo Matt (and Frank).

[THINSOCKS]

I looked in my book at home, but I didn't see that particular guitar, unfortunately. The one I was thinking of was a Carvin from the early 60's (yeah they've been around that long!)

I don't think it's a Carvin. Carvin guitars in the 50's and 60's actually where like 50% Hofner parts. Yup, Hofner. This guitar has not a single part that looks to be made by Hofner. Carvin has actually been around since the mid 40's. At first it was called Kiesel (After the company founder Lowell Kiesel), but then it changed over to Carvin sometime in the early 50's. Those old Carvin guitars are pretty interesting. They were made here in Southern California and tend to turn up every now and then. Also, I don't think the guitar is a Mosrite, becuase it doesn't have the deep German curve to the top like all of Semi Mosley's insturments had. Plus, Semi always put the mando or octave neck on top, not on the bottom like the guitar in the BB pic. I'm going to e-mail Deke Dickerson and ask him what he thinks it is. He's the king of oddball guitars.

[musicofanatic5]

I looked in my book at home, but I didn't see that particular guitar, unfortunately. The one I was thinking of was a Carvin from the early 60's (yeah they've been around that long!)

I've seen Carvins from as early as the fifties; steels and electric, solid body mandolins. You're really damn close with Carvin; I know it's a name similar to Carvin. It's right on the tip of my tongue, but I can't think of it! Aurrrrrrrrrgggghhhhhh!!!

[THINSOCKS]

Matt Stubbs is a kid gtrist from out here, moved to LA (y'know, like that kid with the t'in socks). Good player, probably much better now that he has removed hisself from this rather nowhere scene and thrown hisself into the real action. Rare to see new englanders leave and not quickly come running back; waytogo Matt (and Frank).

Yeah, my move had nothing to do with music though... I'm just not that fond of snow and I think the women are better looking out here. It's been 8 years and counting. :)

[dukeh62]

I know it's a name similar to Carvin. It's right on the tip of my tongue, but I can't think of it! Aurrrrrrrrrgggghhhhhh!!!

Calvin Klein?

[straightblues]

Yeah, my move had nothing to do with music though... I'm just not that fond of snow and I think the women are better looking out here. It's been 8 years and counting. :)
Well you haven't settled all the way in becuase you are still saying "out here". All my east cost buddies say this. Drop the out here.

[Strat-O]

Klimf? Clopf? Clacf?

[THINSOCKS]

I've seen Carvins from as early as the fifties; steels and electric, solid body mandolins. You're really damn close with Carvin; I know it's a name similar to Carvin. It's right on the tip of my tongue, but I can't think of it! Aurrrrrrrrrgggghhhhhh!!!

Well, I just got a reply from Deke. He's stumped too! He did point out though that the bottom neck has 10 strings like a tipple.

[stevieboy]

Speaking of Lowell Kiesel, and San Diego, for that matter, he used to come in to a camera store I worked at in downtown SD (two doors up from Centre City guitars) in the late 70's. He was mostly interested in older especially German cameras, and when he saw I carried an old Leica around he started calling me "Leica Man." A very nice guy, always dapper in a suit and tie. I believe he's still with us, I think I saw a recent picture of him and one of his sons.

I came out here in '76. Still here (LA now though, had to for my job, after 15 years in San Diego). All those northeast/midwest places are great places...to be from.

[HappyValley]

Yeah, we will indeed be backing up Harman and his guitarist Nathan James, on three gigs:

Thursday, Aug 9, at AJs in Levittown, PA (Bucks County Blues Society)
Friday, Aug 10, at a yet-to-be-determined location in Point Pleasant, NJ
Saturday, Aug 11, at the Wilmington (DE) Riverfront Blues Festival


Cool Dave! Looks like I've got James coming up here the following week to do a few gigs and a festival with myself and some buddies;
Right now it's Chan's in Woonsocket RI on 8-17, The Sea Note in Hull on 8-18, The North River Blues Festival on 8-19 and Harry's in Hyannis MA on 8-20.
Have a blast man! Let me know how it goes via PM if you like- Nick

[TwoFeets]

Well you haven't settled all the way in becuase you are still saying "out here". All my east cost buddies say this. Drop the out here.

I moved from Boston to Orlando in 1997 but I haven't ever stopped calling this place "down here." I think I keep myself from going stark raving mad by convincing myself on some subconscious level that this has all ben just some very, very long vacation and someday I'll return "home."

[RickyKing]

Hi All,
I just got back from 4 days in Vegas...never had a better time!
I ready to pack up and go RIGHT NOW!!!

[RickyKing]

BTW having a yard sale here
Tweed Gibson GA40
Skip Simmonds modded DuKane pa head & 1x12 cabinet
Harmony H-62 Sunburst
Harmony Master w/Lollor P-90's
A pair of P-13 pickups
Refin Supro Dualtone
1952 Gibson ES-350
PM me if any interest...

[musicofanatic5]

How much for the yard? Really, Vegas? 116 degrees in the shade? I moved out here from Az to escape that sh*t. No thanks. Plus, what'll they do when the water runs out?

[musicofanatic5]

Well, I just got a reply from Deke. He's stumped too! He did point out though that the bottom neck has 10 strings like a tipple.

Tiple, mandolin, something like that. Thought for sure I'd seen it in this book but nope (anyone else got this?):http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t195/musicofanatic/P2070002.jpg
Maybe a Michael Wright article in Vinnidge Gtr or a "Teisco Delrey" (Dan Forte) article in Gtr Player way back? I'm stumped and I don't like it!!

[Scott Miller]

I avoided working for over an hour while Googling around for that guitar.

Using advanced imaging technology ("Sharpen" in Paint Shop Pro), it seems like the logo might say "ROI" or possibly "INDI." Or it could be six letters, the fourth of which is V... Carvin rears it's head again. However, there is a truly awesome Carvin history site out there that has nothing like this.

[HappyValley]

Question: How does Carvin stay in business? Their products always have seemed to be of decent quality, but I've never seen anyone other than their endorsment personalities using their stuff; that plus the fact that they've been a mail order only business for as long as I can remember. They must have some $$ coming in to multi page advertise in GP for almost 30 years!

[musicofanatic5]

Question: How does Carvin stay in business? Their products always have seemed to be of decent quality, but I've never seen anyone other than their endorsment personalities using their stuff; that plus the fact that they've been a mail order only business for as long as I can remember. They must have some $$ coming in to multi page advertise in GP for almost 30 years!

Easy. They sell billions of those cheap, p.o.s., worse-than-peavey powered pa heads to cheap-ass club owners and "hum and strum" type solo acts. That, combined with all the "awesome stacks" they sold to "metal-on-a-budget" dudes when Steve Vai and Craig Chaciquo were catalog endorsers (both appearing in leather trousers=big sales!), has more than kept them afloat. Plus, there seems to actually be a certain contingent that thinks their gtrs aren't crap (if you can believe that!). Don't forget those super-hot, "how many winds can we fit on these bobbins", 29 polepiece p.u.s that Zappa endorsed! Okay, I'll stop now.

[zappafrank]

Heh Heh---seemed to work for FZ---whether it's West Coast or not is debatable! LOL!

Of course, FZ tried EVERYTHING that would make a sound of anykind--

My friend has a Carvin 8 channel head he's had for over 20 years of very regular use, and it has never had any problems---Jon--why are their heads considered crap?---I know their guitars don't do it for me (I've tried a couple YEARS ago), but they seemed like good quality for the rockers out there and I had a friend with one of those amps when I was in High School---sounded fine along side his Marshall half---not as good, but more tweakable--

Not playing Devils Advocate---I really did not know they were considered low quality---I've been considering buying a new Carvin 8 channel head myself---any info would be helpful---also thinking of a used Mackie 808M or S--

thx!
ac

[Dave Orban]

I've used the Carvin PA stuff over the years, and never had a problem with it.

[dukeh62]

Not playing Devils Advocate---I really did not know they were considered low quality---I've been considering buying a new Carvin 8 channel head myself---any info would be helpful---also thinking of a used Mackie 808M or S--

thx!
ac

AC...we've used a Mackie 808S for the past seven years, and it's been great.

[jimfog]

6 channel PV I've had for @ 7-8years of 200-250+ gigs a year......indoor, outside in the summer, run with NO load, running a full outdoor Pa (mains, subs, monitors), etc........I don't baby it, just gets tossed in my trunk, no cover, and lives there year round......even had a full Guinness poured in it once!!!

Still works great, sounds great......

Highly recommended. It's whole different beast from those things they used to put out in the 70's-80's........

Mackies are cool, but feel a bit more fragile to me. The Yamahas both me and a friend had basically sucked........

- Jim

[musicofanatic5]

Well, I never intended to have to tangle with Mr. Orban on my carvin bash, but my experience dictates: a coupla clubs I'm regular at, and a coupla singer/songwronger (opposite of song"right"er) types I work with have the carvin powered pa heads, and it's always, "oh, don't plug into ch. three, it doesn't work. Oh, yeah, same goes for four and five.", or "oh, you wanted reverb on that? It hasn't worked in years.", or "pan everything left, cause the other side doesn't work", etc. Just sayin'...
Never known Mackie to be "fragile" (I've thrown [I mean dropped!] my 1202 down a coupla flights of stairs; still worked fine), but it is totally hi-fi (why I use it).
As concerns peavey, remember: Duke R.'s gtr amp of choice for many years!

[Dave Orban]

Well, I never intended to have to tangle with Mr. Orban on my carvin bash, but my experience dictates: a coupla clubs I'm regular at, and a coupla singer/songwronger (opposite of song"right"er) types I work with have the carvin powered pa heads, and it's always, "oh, don't plug into ch. three, it doesn't work. Oh, yeah, same goes for four and five.", or "oh, you wanted reverb on that? It hasn't worked in years.", or "pan everything left, cause the other side doesn't work", etc. Just sayin'...
Never known Mackie to be "fragile" (I've thrown [I mean dropped!] my 1202 down a coupla flights of stairs; still worked fine), but it is totally hi-fi (why I use it).
As concerns peavey, remember: Duke R.'s gtr amp of choice for many years!Well, I'm not sure I'd want to compare a workhorse "club" rig with a one-owner rig that was probably babied MUCH more than a common-use one at the club... Just a thought.

[HappyValley]

Speaking of GP endorsements, for a real hoot pick up a mid to late 80's back issue sometime and dig the makeup, huge hair, spandex, octagonal synthesized drums, geometric guitars throughout. Priceless.

[Echo Are]

Speaking of GP endorsements, for a real hoot pick up a mid to late 80's back issue sometime and dig the makeup, huge hair, spandex, octagonal synthesized drums, geometric guitars throughout. Priceless.

Yep, LOL. I have a couple of Guitar World's from 1987. Can you say, hot pink and flourescent yellow Ibanezes?!:rollAnd about a zillion ads for locking tremolo systems:Devil.

Although, at the time, I wished I'd had the money to buy the then-new American Standard Strat, endorsed in a full-page ad by some guitar player named Eric Johnson("It's got the TONES that I like..."). But Eric is sportin' a skinny tie, mullet, and a Miami Vice blazer with the sleeves rolled up :eek:.

[rhartt1234]

Yep, LOL. I have a couple of Guitar World's from 1987. Can you say, hot pink and flourescent yellow Ibanezes?!:roll

Well I for one would never besmirch my status as a Blues purist and consort with the likes of anyone who would own, or has owned, a pink Ibanez. Let alone be in a band with a person like that. How gauche!;)

[Echo Are]

Well I for one would never besmirch my status as a Blues purist and consort with the likes of anyone who would own, or has owned, a pink Ibanez. Let alone be in a band with a person like that. How gauche!;)

Uh, I was referring to the ads in the '87 Guitar Worlds.:o LOL. I never was a wee-wee-weeeeeeee<wang bar> metal player. But in '88 a blankety-blank GC salesman did talk me into forking over my $300 hard-earned bux for a (Korean-made)Kramer cheapo fake EMG Select pickup white-w/black guard Sooper Strat thing. Instead of a metallic-blue Squier Strat(made in Japan then)for the same money. Dammit!:mad: Newbie guitarists don't know how good they have it these days.

[GOLDENSTRAT]

Check out the cooool National amp on page 72 of the new Vintage Guitar. Has anyone seen one of these out there? fred

[musicofanatic5]

Speaking of GP endorsements, for a real hoot pick up a mid to late 80's back issue sometime and dig the makeup, huge hair, spandex, octagonal synthesized drums, geometric guitars throughout. Priceless.

Mid-eighties was my retail heyday (had a gtr shop in Newburyport, Ma). I couldn't move a gtr that didn't have a Floyd and/or dangerous points, try as I might. Sold Marine Bands for $14.00 though.

[HappyValley]

Mid-eighties was my retail heyday (had a gtr shop in Newburyport, Ma). I couldn't move a gtr that didn't have a Floyd and/or dangerous points, try as I might. Sold Marine Bands for $14.00 though.

Funny- I was just in Newburyport today with the missus- grabbed a cool soul CD - (James & Bobby Purify "Shake a Tail Feather") at a used/new CD store next to the good ol' Grog.
Not much happenin' for retail instruments there now, as far as I could see, though.

[bluesjuke]

I played a Carvin version of a double cut Les Paul Jr. many years ago that was of good quality.
I also have a friend that has a Carvin Bass head & stack that sound great.
My preferences run otherwise but what I've seen of the Carvin's wasn't all that bad.

[stevieboy]

I see way more Carvin basses than I do guitars.

[Echo Are]

One Carvin item I'd like to see in the flesh(and try out) is one of their pre-1965 tube amps. Here's a site with pics from old Carvin catalogs:
http://www.carvinmuseum.com/decade/93-guitars.html

Those '50s and early-'60s tweed Carvin amps must be extremely rare--I have yet to encounter one.

[valcotone]

Check out the cooool National amp on page 72 of the new Vintage Guitar. Has anyone seen one of these out there? fred


Fred, I dig National/Valco amps... who's on the cover of the VG mag you're talkin' about? I don't see any National amps on p72 of the Bonamassa issue...

[GOLDENSTRAT]

I just got the new issue in the mail Saturday with Gary Moore on the cover, I guess we'll have to wait until August to read the Holmstrom interview. In the picture, Lloyd Lambert who played bass with Guitar Slim is next to the amp which is big - about like a Super Reverb (maybe wider) in size and looks to have 2-4 speakers and a cool panel in the middle that loks like J.B. Lenior's famous jacket, also a huge metal handle. fred

[TwoFeets]

The band I'm in has been using Carvin's RX1200 powered mixer that's built into a RoadWarrior case, for quite a while now, probably for a year before I even joined the band. No hiccups that I know of.

I've only ever seen two of their guitars in person and they seemed pretty well made, although not my cup of tea at all.

[THINSOCKS]

I just got the new issue in the mail Saturday with Gary Moore on the cover, I guess we'll have to wait until August to read the Holmstrom interview. In the picture, Lloyd Lambert who played bass with Guitar Slim is next to the amp which is big - about like a Super Reverb (maybe wider) in size and looks to have 2-4 speakers and a cool panel in the middle that loks like J.B. Lenior's famous jacket, also a huge metal handle. fred

Are you taking about this picture? I bought this 8x10 like 5 years ago and I've yet to meet anyone who has ever seen one of these amps in person. I had two of the smaller ones with a 1x15 P15P speaker and the same grill cloth and handle. Honestly, they really sucked. Both were bigger then a Pro, yet barely as loud as a Deluxe.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/frankiethetut/P7070010.jpg

[THINSOCKS]

One Carvin item I'd like to see in the flesh(and try out) is one of their pre-1965 tube amps. Here's a site with pics from old Carvin catalogs:
http://www.carvinmuseum.com/decade/93-guitars.html

Those '50s and early-'60s tweed Carvin amps must be extremely rare--I have yet to encounter one.

There was a 1960 Tweed Carvin amp with a single 15" & 8" speaker that just sold on Ebay a couple of weeks ago for $700. The only other larger early Carvin tweed amp I have seen on Ebay was a 4x10 amp that kinda looked like a Bassman. That sold for over 2k.

[GOLDENSTRAT]

That's the one. I really like the handle. The Ampeg Jet I have came with a P12s and the Vega/Valco a C15p and both were pretty quiet with those speakers, better speakers made 'em sound much better. fred

[THINSOCKS]

That's the one. I really like the handle. The Ampeg Jet I have came with a P12s and the Vega/Valco a C15p and both were pretty quiet with those speakers, better speakers made 'em sound much better. fred

The coolest larger sized National amp I have owned was the National "Stagestar" with four 6x9 speakers. Really great funky sounding amp. It was as wide as a high powered tweed Twin and as tall as a Bassman. Still, it sounded like it only put out about 18-20 watts. That amp and the 1x15 zebra cloth TV front National I mentioned early both had small transformers. I don't think changing the speakers in those two amps would have made as much of a diffrence as changing out the iron would have.

[TwoFeets]

How'd everyone's gigs go this weekend?

We had a couple of nights in Cocoa Beach. Friday night we played at the Beach Shack in Cocoa. Had a pretty good night there. Josh Miller, one of the best young guitarists you've never heard of, sat in on guitar. Bill, the owner, runs a great place and has one of the few "real" blues clubs in Central Florida. He also features national acts when he can; a rarity in these parts. Nemeth was there a couple of weeks ago (I was sick so I didn't make the show, dammit). If any of you guys are considering an eastern seaboard tour and need a Florida stop, this is the venue to hit.

Saturday night played at a place called Oh Shucks on Cocoa Beach Pier. A pretty good night marred only by the 1 hour rain delay in the middle due to heavy lightning. (the venue is actually open to the elements on one side)

[Dave Orban]

We had a really great gig on Saturday night at a place called Sotto 128, in Princeton, NJ.

We actually dragged-out the Drifters' classic "Under the Boardwalk," to close the first set. 4-part harmonies and all. LOL!

Crowd loved it!

[TwoFeets]

Speaking of the Drifters, RIP Bill Pinkney, the only surviving original member. A local band we know was opening up for the Original Drifters in Daytona on the day it happened. Here's the post from a local discussion board:

"Ok I've had several people ask me about this, so I'm going to recount the story here. As you, may or may not know, RoadBloack was invited to play at the band shell in Daytona Beach for July 4th and open up for the Drifters.

We were all kinda psyched and looking forward to the gig. Unfortunately, Wednesday was a very rainy day and it wasn't even clear enough to set the sound until 2pm. Needless to say, the sky cleared and show went on even though we started a little late. The set (an hour and a half) went well, and we got our kudos, but afterwords I noticed some unusual bustle backstage. I really didn't get an idea of what was going on until after the fact, but the Drifters had a tough decision to make. Less than two hours earlier, Bill Pinkney, the only remaining member of the original band, had passed away in his hotel room! Yes, he was 81, and they knew he was having health issues, but this happened right before the show, and they were already backstage, so you can imagine all the things that were being considered: Should they stop the show? Should the opening act play longer? Do they make an announcement? etc.etc.

Well here's what happened- within 10 minutes of start time The Drifters, minus Bill Pinkney, took the stage and probably put on one of the the best shows of their lives. Bill's son, who plays in the band, was so full of emotion; it was amazing. The crowd loved them and although Bill wasn't on stage they didn't seem to mind. Then, as the show came to a close, their manger came to the mic and made the announcement that Bill had passed away and that this would be the "Drifters" last performance. You can imagine how that hit everyone like a ton a bricks. At the same time we were amazed at the fact that we had just heard a band pull together and put on an amazing performance mainly for the purpose of honoring the guy who had the vision to bring them all together in the first place.

A little surreal?, yes. Will I ever forget it?, NO - kinda adds new meaning to "The show must go on". Anyway, that was how RoadBlock spent the 4th. On top of that, a huge wave hit the fireworks barge and washed them overboard, so there were no fireworks over the ocean either. "

Here's the Times news story.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/06/arts/music/06pinkney.html?ex=1341374400&en=18e4c68779c77544&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

[jumpnblues]

Hey Matt (Thinsocks),

Were you the player that did the sound samples for the Louis Electric website? Not sure who it was but, man, can they play?!! Lou Rosano told me who it was, said it was just a young whippersnapper but I can't remember his name. Thought there was a possibility it might be you? :confused::cool:

Tom

[jimfog]

Were you the player that did the sound samples for the Louis Electric website? Not sure who it was but, man, can they play?!! Lou Rosano told me who it was, said it was just a young whippersnapper but I can't remember his name. Thought there was a possibility it might be you?

Hey Tom,

Pretty sure that's Dave Gross.......real talented Jersey boy.......cd produced by Duke R.........good taste for a young'un.....

- Jim

[dukeh62]

Hey Matt (Thinsocks),

Were you the player that did the sound samples for the Louis Electric website? Not sure who it was but, man, can they play?!! Lou Rosano told me who it was, said it was just a young whippersnapper but I can't remember his name. Thought there was a possibility it might be you? :confused::cool:

Tom

Thinsocks is Frank.

Those Louis samples sounded like Duke. I wonder if it could have been Dave Gross?

[THINSOCKS]

Thinsocks is Frank.

Those Louis samples sounded like Duke. I wonder if it could have been Dave Gross?

Thanks for clearing that up, Eric.

[THINSOCKS]

Here's a pic of the funky looking National I owned flanked by a couple even cooler National guitars. The amp must have been made around the same time as the one Lloyd Lambert is playing in that picture. Sadly, these all looked better then they sounded. That archtop was one sharp guitar though. To bad it tipped the scale at almost 10 lbs.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/frankiethetut/NationalAmpGuitars.jpg

[jumpnblues]

Quote:
Originally Posted by jumpnblues http://www.thegearpage.net/board/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?p=2689732#post2689732)
Hey Matt (Thinsocks),

Were you the player that did the sound samples for the Louis Electric website? Not sure who it was but, man, can they play?!! Lou Rosano told me who it was, said it was just a young whippersnapper but I can't remember his name. Thought there was a possibility it might be you? :confused::cool:

Tom

Thinsocks is Frank.

Those Louis samples sounded like Duke. I wonder if it could have been Dave Gross?
__________________


Uhh, oops! Sorry Frank. Yep, first time I heard the samples I thought it was Duke. Dave Gross huh? Great player. Must be heavily influenced by Duke. Great tone, by the way, coming through that guitar and those amps. Those sound samples alone sold me on Lou's amps. :AOK:AOK:cool:

Tom

[Schwalbe]

Speaking of the Drifters, RIP Bill Pinkney,
Man that's a shame.
How'd everyone's gigs go this weekend?
I’ll start with a week ago Friday, opening for Little Charlie. We had a decent show and the crowd was fair sized. The sound at this particular club is horsesh*t. The back of the stage is padded about 3 layers deep with curtains in an attempt to keep the sound from escaping into the rest of the shopping mall. Every note gets absorbed like a sponge. I’ve always struggled in that room. Every national act I’ve seen there has struggled, especially guitar players. Charlie seemed to be having a rough go the first set. The 2nd set they ramped it up a bit and Estrin really turned it on. Of course as is typical of the venue, by now there was less than a third of a house to hear it.
Last Thursday I played a place in a quaint little ‘burb North of town. The crowd was good. The bass owner couldn’t find the strength to pull his head out so the grooves were mostly non-existent and keys and changes were guesses.
Friday was a f*cking blast! The rhythm section was Big George Jackson’s guys, Dwight Dario and John Schroeder. John is a smart heads up kind of bass player and Dario is one of two actually great Blues drummers around here (the other being Stupka). Dwight is as steady and tasteful as Rob but his feel for the beat is further behind. The grooves were as wide and deep as the Mariana Trench. I had SO much fun. Boom Boom Vonderharr was on harp. He’s the only cat left in these parts that paid attention when Mischo and Lynwood were here. He plays the right stuff and he plays it well.
Saturday The Rough Cuts were at Famous Dave’s in Hayward WI. It’s beautiful country up there. The food and drink was free, the pay was above average and the hotel was nice. The crowd was light so we played for ourselves and had a ball.

[Scott Miller]

When Johnny Otis had his radio show in LA in the early 80s, he got a bunch of former Robins/Coasters as guests one night. It didn't take long before they almost came to blows and Johnny had to smooth things over, after which he said something like "If you think THAT was bad, you should see it when I get the Drifters in here!"

[Scott Miller]

As for gigs, you would think that on a 90+ degree day at a festival with 50,000 people there would be a cover for the band. Not. Singer almost passed out, piano player was babbling incoherently. I'm not complaining, though! Love that dehydration!

[valcotone]

How'd everyone's gigs go this weekend?


Weekend gigs... hit and a miss...

Friday: Big stinky old hotel bar with long throw and tall ceilings, (and as noted to my pals already) , after the first song this rather sizeable and aggressive woman came at us from the back of room yelling "you're too loud" "you're TOO loud" "you're TOO LOUD" "hey you in the blue shirt... are you listening to me... this is a SMALL room and you're TOO LOUD and we can't hear each other"..... yikes. Feedback from other people there was that the volume was just right but what a start to the night! Crowd was light and we played mostly for ourselves (maybe the start of a theme, hey Dan?). haha...

Saturday: Upscale bar on the dock with patio and a happy crowd... great beers on tap and really tasty goods from the kitchen. We played pretty well and had a blast! A decent harp player sat in for about 1/3 of the night too which was way cool for me. They want us back in Sept and Nov and we can't wait. And we got a $4 tip, yeah baby!!

Gear report: TV Pro, parts Strat with Don Mare pickups, and Orville LP w/ Wolfetone Marshallhead pickups both nights.

[valcotone]

http://www.kilback.net/pics/strat_orville_tv.jpg

[cigpow]

Thinsocks is Frank.

Those Louis samples sounded like Duke. I wonder if it could have been Dave Gross?

Just listened to those clips. Its Dave Gross for sure! He is a great player. I got to catch him briefly a while back at the Media Blues stroll with Jump Time. Wish I could have seen more but my band was playing too. He was killin'!


Ian

[jimfog]

Just listened to those clips. Its Dave Gross for sure! He is a great player. I got to catch him briefly a while back at the Media Blues stroll with Jump Time. Wish I could have seen more but my band was playing too. He was killin'! Ian

Hey Ian,

I played the Blues Stroll last year......nice event.

Are you a Philly area guy? What band?

I do a lot of different projects, but my main blues work is with this jump/west coast band.........

http://www.mightyrhythmkings.com/

- jim

[THINSOCKS]

Crowd was light and we played mostly for ourselves (maybe the start of a theme, hey Dan?). haha...

Funny. Same here. Had a huge crowd of 4 or 5 people yesterday. ;)

[GOLDENSTRAT]

Our crowd was unusually small last night too, I think a "post fourth of July week" syndrome. We are playing with a drummer from Dallas right now that is great and nails all the grooves as good as I've played with before. He has good stories about all the Texas players as well so I expect to be learning and having fun. fred

[cigpow]

Hey Ian,

I played the Blues Stroll last year......nice event.

Are you a Philly area guy? What band?

I do a lot of different projects, but my main blues work is with this jump/west coast band.........

http://www.mightyrhythmkings.com/

- jim


Hey Jim,

Yea, I am from the Philly area, actually a suburb named Wallingford. My band is Irving Street Blues

http://www.myspace.com/irvingstreetblues

We played at the stroll last year too, maybe you know of us? We are playing the anglesea blues+bbq fest in Wildwood this weekend. I don't think I have seen your band before but I would love to catch you playing sometime.

Ian

[rhartt1234]

Here's something I've been pondering. And I guess ultimately Frank is best qualified to answer it. But what isn't he best qualified to answer here?

Either by chance or lack of a strong music scene right now it doesn't seem like there is a next big thing in "West Coast Blues" (a term I eschew using the older I get but that's another topic) You can draw a pretty straight line from the post war horn driven sound of Johnny Otis to the more harmonica driven sound of Piazza/Clarke/Harman Fats Band etc. And it just seems to stop there. I may not be as hip to the LA scene as I was but I keep a pretty good ear to the ground. When I lived in LA it seems that Freddie Brooks was the next guy to break out of LA and just as things got going for him he packed it in, moved and got a day job. I believe he's back in LA playing but I haven't heard much. Kirk Fletcher is also a strong candidate but remains more sideman than frontman. Mitch Kashmar is another strong candidate with two of the better traditional harp CDs in recent years but he's also more of the Piazza/Clarke generation than the current generation. Granted Piazza/Clarke/Harman were late bloomers getting signed to Alligator and Black Top in their late 30s/early 40s But as far as I can tell there's no one that's in that position now or a few years from now.

So what's up? Is it a lack of talent or lack of a strong scene?

I suppose as Piazza/Clarke/Harman's influence spread as a result of those guys getting national distribution in the early 90s you get guys like John Nemeth and The Insomniacs are the closest thing.

It could be my perception. I was getting into this particular style just as there was a glut of releases by the aforementioned guys and the Blues scene is in a very different place than it was in 1991.

[KBR]

I did the Waterfront fest in Portland, OR, Friday afternoon and had a BF Twin on 6 and my Strat LP clone 2 Lollar HBers, had a Huge crowd, maybe 20K that day, it was a HIGH!
Then Sat played for 30 people in Tigard, last Night with T Coleman (Ex BB King Drummer)
Movin back to my Band, It's best to lead after 38 years of Gigs.
Some Highs ~ lotta Lows!
Manic Depression...oh but Playing is still awesome...

[KBR]

Skillback,
Great lookin set up y'all got..What you usin for verb/Trem?

[valcotone]

Skillback,
Great lookin set up y'all got..What you