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THINSOCKS
08-03-2007, 12:31 PM
If anybody here from the LA area has known Marco Fiume and has some stories to share I would love to read 'em.He worked with Candye Kane.



Marco was a good friend of mine. I really miss that guy a lot. He use to leave these messages on my phone of him playing guitar and then try and tell me it was some unreleased solo Tiny Grimes that he found... and he was not going to make me a copy of it! Some of my fondest memories were of his mangling of the English language. We use to go to breakfast after a gig and he would ask for his steak "well done" and his eggs "well scrambled". That cracked me up every time. I've told this one before, but he tried to sell me a Kay guitar once that had a terrible back bow to the neck. I called him on it and he said "Yes, but it contours to your body. It's a good thing". Marco always had this charming way of trying to pull one over on you. Ha-Ha. I have another funny story about him loosing his underwear at a party in the Hollywood hills, but this is not the place really for that story. ;)

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/frankiethetut/MARCOESPANADA.jpg

I still own this Espanada that belonged to him. It's one of my favorite guitars.

valcotone
08-03-2007, 01:09 PM
That's a very cool pic of Marco with the Espanada. Thanks Frank.

jetlag
08-03-2007, 01:44 PM
I just stumbled on Marco's myspace page earlier this week. There are some great photos (tons of them) on there and some nice clips as well. The fest they did in his honor over in Italy was a really cool thing.

rhartt1234
08-03-2007, 01:47 PM
Marco and I played a lot in LA. Here he is with Holmstrom's L-5.
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rhartt1234/Marco2.jpg
Thinksocks mentioned his lack of command of the English language: We were walking to the Boogaloo and Marco had some LPs to return to Rick. One was a Barney Kessel record. Marco said "Oh man, this is my enseclopodia of swing guitar." But hey is English was better than my Italian. All us harp guys wanted to put Marco in a certain bag. He was a great Chicago/Jump guitar player but he really found HIS sound right before he died.

dukeh62
08-03-2007, 01:52 PM
I emailed Marco a link to an Espanada on ebay one time to get his opinion of it. He called me and said in his thick accent:

"You know when you have the feeling some-ting to-tal-lee socks? I think this guitar to-tal-lee socks."

If you guys don't have it, pick up Marco's "Stratotone Blues" CD. It's fantastic.

Raymond
08-03-2007, 02:03 PM
Thanks for the welcome words guys!
Yes, the Marco Fiume Memorial Festival really stands out.I mean there are so many great festivals all over the place, but this one is different.The whole vibe is so special.Think about it, here's a mum who manages to keep the spirit and memory of her son alive by means of a 3 day festival with people from all over the world playing the kind of music that was closest to Marco's heart.Amazing.I am very proud and happy to have been invited two consecutive years. We started off this year with 'Kesselland', Marco's tribute to Barney Kessel from his "Stratotone Blues' cd.

nc slim
08-03-2007, 03:34 PM
RE the Sanborn w Anson. He went w Boz Scaggs to Ny for the show. Sanborn heard himplay and Wanted him featured. Anson did not sing so Sanborn did these great instrumentals. One was cool struttin by Sonny Clark . the best touch in the business

THINSOCKS
08-03-2007, 04:51 PM
Anyone have a vintage Dano lipstick pickup they want to part with?

dddelta
08-03-2007, 05:16 PM
Just ordered an Eastwood Airline H44 DLX. It arrives on Monday !

Can't wait...hope it lives up to the hype...

I'd like to hear what you think of this guitar when it gets here Goldie295.

PM me.

Also, welcome guitar ray, you'll enjoy it in here! A Blues lovers paradise!

nmontz
08-03-2007, 06:49 PM
David Sanborn was for awhile an University of Iowa music student. I have a friend that was a student in the dept. at the same time. He said Sanborn was in the practice room once in the morning, once in the afternoon/evening. Each time he would either memorize a jazz standard, heads and changes....or transcribe a whole song. He said by the end of each session he was just blowing like a mother on whatever he was working on. Said he was in there every day. Boy...learn and memorize a standard and or transcribe a song with solos every day....crazy....thats dedication. I think he said he didn't get all that good of grades though...LOL! I'm not sure how he would know that though.... Sanborn likes to have guitarists with good tone on his stuff. Although not as sweet as that Anson clip, I think he has clapton and Jeff Beck on some of his cd's. I've met Sanborn before and he was an alright guy.

valcotone
08-03-2007, 07:28 PM
Mavis and Rick from last night: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO4Bv2rBm0E

musicofanatic5
08-04-2007, 06:18 AM
Gawd, I'm up early! Got a canadian fest to play tonight, and it's a six or so hour drive just to get outta Maine, then into Quebec. The van picks me up at 8 (am!!), and I generally don't even puke till noon. Wish me luck.

Poppa Stoppa
08-04-2007, 07:42 AM
Good luck Jon. What was the news from the T-Birds last week?

I'm in Waterford (Ireland) - playing at a festival there this weekend. Several big/outdoor stages, getting fully mic'ed up. Fun stuff.

Welcome Raymond - good to see you on here. Folks I have seen Guitar Ray play and can confirm he's a killer!

Goldie those Airline H44's are cool. I bought one a few weeks back. It needed the truss rod tightening a little. Also the bridge slides around a bit. Some people pin them to the top to stop that. The pickups are OK, better with the volume rolled off. I have a couple of original hersheys to put on there that I am sure will make a big difference. However, I put .011's on it and the extra tension pulled the tailpiece woodscrews out. *&%£!

As soon as I got the Airline, Ricky King put his original H44 (with the silver hippy patterns on it) up for sale and I snapped it up. Big thanks to Ricky. It's a great guitar. It's got the bridge glued to the top to stop it moving. The original pickup is fantastic and has got that Stratotone 'groink' when you pick near the bridge.

Going back to original Jensen P15 speakers - I thought the problem was they couldn't handle the full power of a tweed Pro, especially a new one. Is that a problem any of you guys have come up against?

zappafrank
08-04-2007, 01:45 PM
Poppa---(and others--)

I have a Clark beefed-up 'Beaufort' in a larger cabinet (It is set up to use 2 6L6 and a 5AR(S)4 rectifier optimally, or 2 6V6's w/ a 5Y3, alternately, w/o having to rebias--works GREAT!)---it came with a Weber 'P15N' copy, and I had Mike Clarke get the "T" version of the Weber (enhanced Treble response) as I had always found the other Webers a bit dark for my tastes---they just don't have that special sounding upper freq. response like OLDER Jensens (I can't stand the new Jensens--sorry---too brittle/stiff)---and ya know what?---It was STILL not right in that top end to my ear, so I bought a 61' p15N and had it reconed (Ironically, they used a Weber re-cone kit) and it sounds FANTASTIC with that speaker--(Anybody want a Weber p15N-T????)---The Weber's a great backup, and a damn fine speaker in it's own right, but I like my Jensen better for what I do--

I had an Airline H44 for a month or so---sounded great, but some quality issues (kinda like what Popa was talkin' 'bout), so I parted w/ it--cool unit, tho---

Guitar Ray---you are a very WELCOME addition! I'll be checking out your sound as soon as I listen/watch those Anson and Mavis clips---

I've responded to all those cool cats on here who expressed interest in my gear---guess it's time to see what the market out there wants to do w/ it all...

I did not meet Marco Fiume, but I did call him years ago when I was trying to purchase that Holmstrom/Watson 4-10" Pro Victoria (now in my possession) to ask him questions ( I think Rick gave me his #, but I can't recall exactly..)---He was very nice and gave me lots of insight, and some tips---Thanks so much for the tip on his CD---I'll buy it poste haste if I can find a copy!!

Well---I just got yet ANOTHER guitar---I'll tell mo' later--maybe a pic---you guys will laugh, I'm guessing! (no pointy headstock or Floyd Rose---don't worry!)

Time to have a Fire Sale!! LOL

Jon---are you playing w/ Duke in the Northwest? I gotta come and see you if you are---give me a PM or an email, man---

Damn, there are some fine f'n players on this thread!

ac

zappafrank
08-04-2007, 02:01 PM
Sean---that clip of Mavis and Rick---OUTSTANDING!

That CD is FANTASTIC---I highly recommend it---Cooder is unbelievable on it, and the whole thing is as powerful, both musically and, yes, message-wise, as anything released in a while---it ain't West Coast, but it's got all the right ingredients---do yourself a favor and check it out--
And Rick does Ry's musical vision for that CD bigtime justice--a bow to Holmstrom from me!

ac

afenderman67
08-04-2007, 02:58 PM
i saw the new t-birds last night, with the two moeller brother in the band! it was a good show!

johnny was great, a very bluesy player, more to my liking than kirk, kirk is one hell of a guitar player, he's very slick but i like johnny's playing better! he's said he'd only been in the band for two day's!

johnny's tone was alittle thin on a rented ri super reverb and he's tellie?

kirk's tone was good on a rented ri dr and a hotrod deveille!


chris

KBR
08-04-2007, 03:33 PM
Hey Chris!
Johnny Moeller is a hell of a Player, I will miss Nick, I like Kirk, but would like to Hear the T Birds with Johnny Moeller & Nick Curran...(My type of Players!)

Hey AC
what Amps are you selling??
email me.
I am looking for a Magnatone M10-A amp the one with the suitcase handle and a 12" speak.

TIA.

KBR

afenderman67
08-04-2007, 09:42 PM
Hey Chris!
Johnny Moeller is a hell of a Player, I will miss Nick, I like Kirk, but would like to Hear the T Birds with Johnny Moeller & Nick Curran...(My type of Players!)

Hey AC
what Amps are you selling??
email me.
I am looking for a Magnatone M10-A amp the one with the suitcase handle and a 12" speak.

TIA.

KBR

i gree with you blue! that video of johnny with little darrel i got from you is awsome, i watch it all the time!

GOLDENSTRAT
08-04-2007, 11:57 PM
Not WC but TX, SRV and JLV on SNL. Need any more TLA's ? fred here's the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-rEdvZdMmg

karmadave
08-05-2007, 12:03 AM
I'm personally glad Nick Curran is back doing his own thing. T-Birds were great exposure, no doubt, but this is Kim's band and Nick is an awesome singer/songwriter/guitarist. Hope to see Nick again soon. Ironically, I was in OC, on Thursday but opted to pass on the T-Birds at the Coach House...

-KD

Dave Orban
08-05-2007, 02:08 PM
The great James Harman will be performing in NJ, PA, and DE, Aug 9, 10, & 11. Click here (http://www.mojogypsies.com/gypsies/news/harman/) for details.

The inimitable James Harman in some rare East Coast appearances!
The one and only James Harman (http://www.myspace.com/jamesharmanband) — the great story tellin' vocalist and your full-service Bluesman since 1962 — is coming to town, for a series of rare East Coast appearances. Harman will be backed by guitarist extraordinaire Nathan James (http://www.myspace.com/njamesmusic), and will be supported by James Day and the Fish Fry (http://www.jameswday.com/). Come check it out at one of these venues:

Thursday, August 9
AJ's Sports Bar
A Bucks County Blues Society (http://www.bucksbluessociety.com/)
"Blue Thursdays" Event
5316 New Falls Road
Levittown, PA 19056
9pm to 1am
(215) 949-9570
Click here (http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&q=ajs+sports+bar&near=Levittown,+PA&ll=40.139980,-74.876370&iwstate1=dir:to&iwloc=A&f=d&daddr=5316+New+Falls+Rd,+Levittown,+PA+19056) for directions.

Friday, August 10
The Elks Club (http://www.pointpleasantelks.org/)
820 Arnold Avenue
Point Pleasant Beach, NJ, 08742
8pm to midnight
Cover charge to benefit the Jersey Shore Jazz & Blues Foundation's (http://www.jsjbf.org/) Youth Program
Click here (http://www.pointpleasantelks.org/1698Directions.html) for directions.

Saturday, August 11
Wilmington Riverfront Blues Festival (http://www.riverfrontbluesfest.com/)
Tubman-Garrett Riverfront Park
Corner of Water and South French Street,
at the Christina River
6:45pm - 8pm (one set only)
Wilmington, DE
(302) 576-2136Note: cover charge dependent on extent of access and days.
Click here (http://www.riverfrontbluesfest.com/venues.html) for directions.
Click here (http://www.riverfrontbluesfest.com/RiverfrontParkmap.pdf) for a PDF map of the venue and parking.

James Day and the Fish Fry (http://www.jameswday.com/) feature James Day on harp and vocals, Professor Dave Orban (http://www.mojogypsies.com/) on guitar and vocals, Ron Baldwin on keyboards and vocals, Mark Shewchuk on drums, and Michael "Flash" Gordon on the upright bass.

For details, contact the Professor at dave@mojogypsies.com. Hope to see you there!

.

KBR
08-05-2007, 03:09 PM
Dave,
If you catch James,
Give him my best.

KBR
08-05-2007, 03:12 PM
Magnatone M10-A, M13, or M15A wanted to buy, prefer Portland, or or Bay Area purchase, no shipping.
Kenny Ray

zappafrank
08-05-2007, 05:06 PM
Magnatone M10-A, M13, or M15A wanted to buy, prefer Portland, or or Bay Area purchase, no shipping.
Kenny Ray


Hey Kenny---emailed you about my Harmony 415 amp--(I had bought it 'cause I read an old 78 or 79 interview w/ H. Fats where he stated he was using one then...)

I played thru Rick Welter's Magnatone M10 amp and his Epi 50's hollowbody last night at a house party---great little amp---had that Treble all the way up--still not bright! (I'm sure that guitar had a lot to do with it, but those are darker amps for sure--that Vibrato was awesome on a T-birds/Muddy/Slim Harpo hybrid version of "I'm Ready" that we did...)

I doubt Rick wants to sell it, but you never know---

ac

Scott Miller
08-05-2007, 05:15 PM
AC, next time you see Rick, tell him I'm STILL knocked out by the time he dropped in to RJ's jam... must have been three years ago. I loved Rick's relaxed, wacked-out playing. He did stuff with open strings like I've never heard.

Dave Orban
08-05-2007, 05:29 PM
Dave,
If you catch James,
Give him my best.Catch him...? I'll be in his backing band for three nights. LOL!

frank62
08-05-2007, 05:40 PM
^Hey Dave, that's great. Give the new Les Paul a workout.

jumpnblues
08-05-2007, 06:47 PM
Hey Guys,

If you're so inclined or have the interest check out my review of my new Louis Electric prototype amp with one 10" and one 12" speaker on the amps and cabs forum. I thought about posting it here too but it's long and I'm not sure how the moderator/s would feel about that. If there turns out to be little or no interest on the Amps And Cabs forum I'll re-post it here since West Coast and other blues guys are much more likely to be interested in this type of amp anyway. I only play straight blues, jump/swing blues and jazz so I'm VERY confident my West Coast blues brothers will be interested. Disclaimer...I have no connection to Louis Electric. :cool::cool:

Tom

KBR
08-05-2007, 07:51 PM
Dave,

Well than say Hi from Me, ok?
James is the Man.

KBR
08-05-2007, 07:54 PM
I want to by one, cause I dug Rick's!
Rick Welter is a Great Player!


He has a different one I may get.
I'll tell him, Scott. If Ac doesn't see him, Cause I am goin over to check him out at the crib.

Dave Orban
08-05-2007, 08:01 PM
Dave,

Well than say Hi from Me, ok?
James is the Man.Most assuredly, Kenny!

jimfog
08-05-2007, 08:57 PM
Hey Dave,

I'll catch you and Harman Thursday at AJ's.......luckily(????) I lost my Thursday night gig, so I can make it.

Looks like my buddy Jeff Michael from Melissa's band will be playing upright bass with ya'll. You'll like him.....good guy, good player.

Looking forward to it..........save up some good licks for me to steal!

- Jim

Dave Orban
08-06-2007, 06:28 AM
Hey Dave,

I'll catch you and Harman Thursday at AJ's.......luckily(????) I lost my Thursday night gig, so I can make it.

Looks like my buddy Jeff Michael from Melissa's band will be playing upright bass with ya'll. You'll like him.....good guy, good player.

Looking forward to it..........save up some good licks for me to steal!

- JimHey, Jim...

I just found out about Jeff, myself. Glad to have him on board!

Look forward to seeing you on Thursday!

Goldie295
08-06-2007, 06:39 AM
Well...the Airline H44 has just arrived at my office. It came with one of the new Eastwood hard cases and first impressions are good.

Obviously, I will not be able to get stuck in until lunchtime (in an hour) so I will reserve most comments until then - but already I can see the neck is a monster !

Dave Orban
08-06-2007, 06:45 AM
...I just bought this:

http://i5.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/ac/fa/223c_3.JPG

zappafrank
08-06-2007, 08:09 AM
Dave---Beautiful, man!---Is that a 175 w/ an L5 tailpiece, or an L-something or other???

Very nice!! Congrats!---Tell us mo'---and also about your LP---

(I'm guessing your 175 jones is now covered!! LOL!)--that's just too cool-

ac

Dave Orban
08-06-2007, 08:36 AM
It's an '01 L4 CES. Basically a 175, but with a carved spruce top and some other "upscale" appointments. Not sure about the 'buckers. Have to wait until it gets here before I decide whether or not I like 'em.

Goldie295
08-06-2007, 08:43 AM
Great guitar Dave - love those L-4s.

I played the Airline H44 over lunch (no amp). The neck is really huge. People keep saying 'baseball bat' huge. Well this is a much used phrase, but it is correct. As you get up the neck it is twice as fat as the Gatton sig tele I used to own. It is massive. Truely massive. But it doesn't matter. Because it still seems to be comfortable.

It also seems well built and the hard case is good quality like a Fender G&G. I hear what people say about putting on 11s but I will probably have a go as the 10s are too light for me.

There is already something very addictive about this little beasty. I will be gigging it on Saturday so will do a full review after that.

Cheers
Phil

Dave Orban
08-06-2007, 04:16 PM
Great guitar Dave - love those L-4s.

I played the Airline H44 over lunch (no amp). The neck is really huge. People keep saying 'baseball bat' huge. Well this is a much used phrase, but it is correct. As you get up the neck it is twice as fat as the Gatton sig tele I used to own. It is massive. Truely massive. But it doesn't matter. Because it still seems to be comfortable.

It also seems well built and the hard case is good quality like a Fender G&G. I hear what people say about putting on 11s but I will probably have a go as the 10s are too light for me.

There is already something very addictive about this little beasty. I will be gigging it on Saturday so will do a full review after that.

Cheers
PhilI am SO tempted to grab one of those! I'm anxious to hear your gig report!!

hasserl
08-06-2007, 05:48 PM
I caught fellow TGPer Don Mare at a blues jam yesterday. Unfortunately it wasn't much of a jam. I stopped in with my wife to scout it out, when we got there the guys playing at the time were playing some Carlos Santana stuff, PRS guitar into a Peavey amp, the guy stretched out for about a twenty minute solo. Boring. Then when they were done the host put Don up with some guy playing a BC Rich Warlock or something like that, with a dirt pedal to boot; and a fretless bass player that looked like he had a few too many cold ones before he got up. Man, I just knew it wasn't going to go well. I gulped down my beer and got out of there before I lost my sanity.

Don, sorry I didn't stick around, that was painful. You did well, considering what you had to work with. That Airline amp sounded real good out in front. You must have been slamming the front end pretty good with something.

Ransome
08-06-2007, 06:12 PM
Hey Hasserl,

That wouldn't have been at Cozy's, would it? I have been a few times with a friend from work (an amazing lap slide player who has since moved to Austin) and it was scary to say the least. The house band was fun though.

Ran$ome

hasserl
08-06-2007, 06:33 PM
Nope, Fender Ave Bar and Grill, in Fullerton.

I think the house band might be pretty good though, I didn't catch them yesterday, but I've played with the guitarist at another local jam before, he's good. I'm going to get over there earlier next time, see if things go a little better.

DonM
08-06-2007, 10:10 PM
yea- them jams go 180* fast sometimes..
- it took me 10 years to learn how to bite my tongue -- and contort my facial expressions to seem happy or at least not phased by the tracks being yanked from under the train...

I also tell everyone they were great afterwards.. even if they had no bizz on the stage.

Its just jam and some real acting skills come in handy -- otherwise those guys get sooooooooooo mad if ya hit them with the truth or get them feeling like they got dissed on stage.. you can make enemies for life ..

so i lie and look happy and pat em all on the back -- hope they all improve -- and they all do -- but its never a steady climb up -- they fall pretty hard and then go up -- eventually they get good, or good with the occasional falls..

The guitar player was better then I expected..( low expections is a key to jam survival)
the bass was a rehab candidate -- he gets my vote --
The horns Blew ( but thats what horns doooo)
The Drummers struggled ( I've seen all those drummers do better prior- must have been the bass)
The harp I liked because he plays thru the 60's Concert and knows his mic's and sounds and when to lay low.
ME-- I was not doing much more then trying to test the Supro ThunderBolt with a band -- had a Throbac sTone Bender ped. was all. pickups were 5.6k bridge and 6.15k neck.

valcotone
08-06-2007, 11:51 PM
New YouTube vid with Rick and Janiva... http://youtube.com/watch?v=wNJhwlTmCEI

Enjoy!

Goldie295
08-07-2007, 04:41 AM
DonM,

I love your description of jam survival !

"tell everyone they were great afterwards.. even if they had no bizz on the stage"

"it took me 10 years to learn how to bite my tongue"

"and contort my facial expressions to seem happy"

"so i lie and look happy and pat em all on the back"

Quality.

Of course the other quote - "eventually they get good" - is the key one. Without a guy like you in the Maidenhead and Windsor area who kept encouraging me and loaning me old blues disks I'd still be turning up the amp plugging in my Ibanez and trying to play Satriani's Ice 9 !!! LOL :puh

Most of these guys just want to be noticed and liked. And once you (pretend) to notice and like them they seem to chill out and start thinking about making music.

My local jam is run by a country band. All the punk guys 'dis' them at first. Then they dig them. Happens all the time. Most of the punk guys in my area now play telecasters... ;)

Keep up the good work Sir !! :BEER

Cheers
Phil

Dave Orban
08-07-2007, 05:24 AM
DonM,

I love your description of jam survival !

"tell everyone they were great afterwards.. even if they had no bizz on the stage"

"it took me 10 years to learn how to bite my tongue"

"and contort my facial expressions to seem happy"

"so i lie and look happy and pat em all on the back"

Quality.

Of course the other quote - "eventually they get good" - is the key one. Without a guy like you in the Maidenhead and Windsor area who kept encouraging me and loaning me old blues disks I'd still be turning up the amp plugging in my Ibanez and trying to play Satriani's Ice 9 !!! LOL :puh

Most of these guys just want to be noticed and liked. And once you (pretend) to notice and like them they seem to chill out and start thinking about making music.

My local jam is run by a country band. All the punk guys 'dis' them at first. Then they dig them. Happens all the time. Most of the punk guys in my area now play telecasters... ;)

Keep up the good work Sir !! :BEER

Cheers
Phil

So true!

When I got back into playing music about 12 years ago (following a 17-year hiatus), I remembered NOTHING. I picked up what I could by going to open jams and just WATCHING the other guitarists. Took me the better part of 6 months before I got up enough nerve to actually go up and sit in for a song!

One of the jams was hosted by a guy named Joe Vadala, a singer-songwriter. It was his support and encouragement that got me to the point where I believed that I was actually making progress...

That support made all the difference in the world, for me as well as for a lot of other guys (and gals!). If it weren't for him, I wouldn't be here today. (Not sure whether that's a good thing or a bad thing! LOL!)

sideman
08-07-2007, 07:11 AM
Enjoyed that Rick clip - thanks.

Dave Orban
08-07-2007, 07:30 AM
New YouTube vid with Rick and Janiva... http://youtube.com/watch?v=wNJhwlTmCEI

Enjoy!Indeed...! :dude

dukeh62
08-07-2007, 08:47 AM
Hey folks,

Been having some work done on my 5E5-A Pro recently, and (as I've discussed at length with a few of you offline) I'm still looking for a proper replacement for the amp's output transformer, which was gone when I got the amp.

So...have any of you guys had any experience putting a newer output tranny in an older tweed amp? If so, what did you use and why?

On a different note, anybody happen to have an extra '58 5E5'A output tranny laying around?

Thanks so much for the input!

rhartt1234
08-07-2007, 09:43 AM
I'm still looking for a proper replacement for the amp's output transformer

Thanks so much for the input!

You're looking for input on your output?

"Input!"
http://www.johnny-five.com/images/sc2/misc/big5.jpg

jawjatek
08-07-2007, 10:06 AM
I use the closest replacement I can find to the original when fixing a tweed. I have used Heyboer, Kendrick, Hoffman, and Mercury Magnetics among others. I just installed the MM in my tweed Deluxe - sounds great. HTH YMMV

TwoFeets
08-07-2007, 10:48 AM
You're looking for input on your output?

"Input!"



My best advice to Eric, in this instance, is "no disassemble!"

hasserl
08-07-2007, 10:57 AM
yea- them jams go 180* fast sometimes..
- it took me 10 years to learn how to bite my tongue -- and contort my facial expressions to seem happy or at least not phased by the tracks being yanked from under the train...

I also tell everyone they were great afterwards.. even if they had no bizz on the stage.

Its just jam and some real acting skills come in handy -- otherwise those guys get sooooooooooo mad if ya hit them with the truth or get them feeling like they got dissed on stage.. you can make enemies for life ..

so i lie and look happy and pat em all on the back -- hope they all improve -- and they all do -- but its never a steady climb up -- they fall pretty hard and then go up -- eventually they get good, or good with the occasional falls..

The guitar player was better then I expected..( low expections is a key to jam survival)
the bass was a rehab candidate -- he gets my vote --
The horns Blew ( but thats what horns doooo)
The Drummers struggled ( I've seen all those drummers do better prior- must have been the bass)
The harp I liked because he plays thru the 60's Concert and knows his mic's and sounds and when to lay low.
ME-- I was not doing much more then trying to test the Supro ThunderBolt with a band -- had a Throbac sTone Bender ped. was all. pickups were 5.6k bridge and 6.15k neck.

I left before the harp player started playing. I saw him roll his Concert in, nice amp.

The Supro, it did sound good. It looked like you didn't hear yourself too good (the bass player was way loud), but we heard you out front okay. The Vibroverb on the other side was definitely louder though.

I realize different people have different skill levels, and I don't have a problem with that. If that guitar player sticks with it, he'll probably end up with a better guitar and ditch the dirt pedal, and maybe learn to sit in the mix. I'd prefer though if they didn't play twenty minute Santana jams. I'm not a blues nazi, hell I play in a classic rock band myself. But when I go to a blues jam that's what I expect will be played. Keep the Santana stuff for a different time and place.

RickyKing
08-07-2007, 11:15 AM
Hey folks,

Been having some work done on my 5E5-A Pro recently, and (as I've discussed at length with a few of you offline) I'm still looking for a proper replacement for the amp's output transformer, which was gone when I got the amp.

So...have any of you guys had any experience putting a newer output tranny in an older tweed amp? If so, what did you use and why?

On a different note, anybody happen to have an extra '58 5E5'A output tranny laying around?

Thanks so much for the input!

I'd go with Mercury Magnetics....

westchesterdave
08-07-2007, 11:35 AM
I agree, Mercury Magnetics is the way to go. I have an good friend who works there. He was formerly with Groove Tubes Anyway, he wouldn't mind if you gave him a call. He's a wealth of information. His name is Patrick Selfridge. Email: patrick@mercurymagnetics.com or phone: 818 998-7791.

THINSOCKS
08-07-2007, 12:46 PM
Hey folks,

Been having some work done on my 5E5-A Pro recently, and (as I've discussed at length with a few of you offline) I'm still looking for a proper replacement for the amp's output transformer, which was gone when I got the amp.

So...have any of you guys had any experience putting a newer output tranny in an older tweed amp? If so, what did you use and why?

On a different note, anybody happen to have an extra '58 5E5'A output tranny laying around?

Thanks so much for the input!

Eric, - I may be alone in this, and I don't mean to ruffle anyones feathers, but I stay clear of the MM transformers. I think it's questionable as to how "faithful" there reproductions are. I tried one briefly recently in my 1959 Bandmaster and it made the amp sound way more stiff then a amp with original cone speakers and all it's Astrons should. You didn't have any luck with Skip's OT? The one Skip just put in my Bandmaster sounds perfect.

KBR
08-07-2007, 01:18 PM
I have used Mojo Bassman OPT's and they sound good.
We once used a MM OPT in a BFSR and it was no louder than a Deluxe Rev...pathetic.

jimfog
08-07-2007, 01:49 PM
I agree, Mercury Magnetics is the way to go. I have an good friend who works there. He was formerly with Groove Tubes Anyway, he wouldn't mind if you gave him a call. He's a wealth of information. His name is Patrick Selfridge. Email: patrick@mercurymagnetics.com or phone: 818 998-7791.

Hey Dave,

Getting to be a small world here. Glad to see you found us. I think I told you about this place years ago? You should start posting what you sell in the dealers forum. Trust me, people BUY here........often!

For those who don't know Dave, he was the longtime original guitarist/one of the founders in my band, the Mighty Rhythm Kings, until I joined a couple years ago. Good guy, and a West Coast blues freakazoid like the rest of us...........even though I'm not 100% sure he's talking to me these days...... lol.

See you at Harman on Thurday, AJ's, Dave? Did you see Jeff's working that gig? Cool stuff...........

- Jim

aja
08-07-2007, 02:00 PM
Love that Janiva/Holmstrom vid. Someday i'll be able to play chords in my solos like that.

Whats that axe Holmstrom is playin' ?

I got some killer John nemeth w/ Junior Watson called come and get it, man Nemeth can really sing.

THINSOCKS
08-07-2007, 02:11 PM
Love that Janiva/Holmstrom vid. Someday i'll be able to play chords in my solos like that.

Whats that axe Holmstrom is playin' ?


ES-150

jetlag
08-07-2007, 02:16 PM
Love that Janiva/Holmstrom vid. Someday i'll be able to play chords in my solos like that.

Whats that axe Holmstrom is playin' ?

I got some killer John nemeth w/ Junior Watson called come and get it, man Nemeth can really sing.

Looked like his ES150 before the cutaway and added pup or else another ES150 that never got that treatment. The same (or similar) guitar is also in that video of him and William Clarke at Lamar's Records. They are killer sounding archtops - mahogany neck, sides and back. Real warm sound with lots of mids.

Thinsocks, it's great to hear that Skip got your bandmaster all straightened out for you.

Ooops, thinsocks beat me to it.

mikelaw
08-07-2007, 02:23 PM
funny shit ryan.

anyone know output ohms on the old fender blackface heads? im guessing 2 ohm output into 4 or 8 ohm cabs.
im fixing to use a blackface bandmaster on a bass gig i have fairly soon and wondering if i can use that head with a 4 or 8 ohm cabinet? i always get confused with this crap.

hasserl
08-07-2007, 02:32 PM
funny shit ryan.

anyone know output ohms on the old fender blackface heads? im guessing 2 ohm output into 4 or 8 ohm cabs.
im fixing to use a blackface bandmaster on a bass gig i have fairly soon and wondering if i can use that head with a 4 or 8 ohm cabinet? i always get confused with this crap.

4 ohm cab is what it was designed for. You can run it into a 2 or 8 ohm load if need be. It will make the most power and have the fullest response into a 4 ohm load, which if you're going to use it for bass is a good thing.

THINSOCKS
08-07-2007, 02:33 PM
Looked like his ES150 before the cutaway and added pup or else another ES150 that never got that treatment. The same (or similar) guitar is also in that video of him and William Clarke at Lamar's Records. They are killer sounding archtops - mahogany neck, sides and back. Real warm sound with lots of mids.

Thinsocks, it's great to hear that Skip got your bandmaster all straightened out for you.

Ooops, thinsocks beat me to it.

Yeah, that's the guitar in the Clarke video and the same one that has a cutaway now. I think the amp was his old '60 Bassman.

RickyKing
08-07-2007, 03:46 PM
funny shit ryan.

anyone know output ohms on the old fender blackface heads? im guessing 2 ohm output into 4 or 8 ohm cabs.
im fixing to use a blackface bandmaster on a bass gig i have fairly soon and wondering if i can use that head with a 4 or 8 ohm cabinet? i always get confused with this crap.

Hi Mikey,
The head wants to see 4 ohms...

valcotone
08-07-2007, 04:03 PM
Yeah, that's the guitar in the Clarke video and the same one that has a cutaway now. I think the amp was his old '60 Bassman.

'socks... any idea about the amp in the Mavis video? Looks like a small solid state combo... :eek:

stevieboy
08-07-2007, 04:30 PM
'socks... any idea about the amp in the Mavis video? Looks like a small solid state combo... :eek:

Hard to see on youtube but looks a silverface deluxe reverb to me.

THINSOCKS
08-07-2007, 05:40 PM
'socks... any idea about the amp in the Mavis video? Looks like a small solid state combo... :eek:

blackface deluxe reverb reissue. that's his standard fly-in amp request now. the trem is a frantone and there is also a delay and boost in the signal.

GOLDENSTRAT
08-07-2007, 06:23 PM
A good T-Birds clip W/ JLV and the sunburst strat and tasty tremolo . fred http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5nRifofbo0

KBR
08-07-2007, 06:35 PM
Golden Strat,

that link ain't no good, have the correct one?

GOLDENSTRAT
08-07-2007, 06:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5nRifofbo0

I think it's the same, it works for me, I hope it works for you, fred

valcotone
08-07-2007, 06:53 PM
A good T-Birds clip W/ JLV and the sunburst strat and tasty tremolo . fred http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5nRifofbo0



Cool... would that be his Leslie cab providing the trem-ish sound?

monstermike
08-07-2007, 07:03 PM
Yeah, that's gotta be the Leslie. Amazing how much the Leslie and low-tuned Strat make Jimmie sound like his little brother at times. You ever see that footage of the two of them playing the doubleneck? It's amazing how in sync their hand movements are.

It's no accident that both Vaughans had such coveted tones (Jimmie for the greasy groove, and Stevie for that big, percussive howl) - both brothers could PLAY the instrument, and really draw the music out of the guitar with their hands.

KBR
08-07-2007, 07:12 PM
You ain't never Lied Monster Mike.

jumpnblues
08-07-2007, 07:28 PM
"...and really draw the music out of the guitar with their hands..."

Mike,

I really like that description. That is exactly the way it's done.

Tom

valcotone
08-07-2007, 09:15 PM
You ever see that footage of the two of them playing the doubleneck? It's amazing how in sync their hand movements are.


Yeah!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQdBhyv7xqQ

karmadave
08-07-2007, 10:20 PM
Here's some recent Jimmie Vaughan playing one of my all-time favs...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFvoFvvmJ3M

monstermike
08-07-2007, 10:49 PM
Yeah! With Billy Pittman nailing that rhythm part. Who's playing bass? I'd heard that Bill Willis wasn't well...

rjkohrs
08-07-2007, 10:56 PM
I had the pleasure of witnessing the Brothers Vaughan do some Robin "double neckin" at a T-Birds/SRV show in '87. Always liked Stevie's comment when they finished, "we're just havin' a little fun".

DonM
08-08-2007, 04:03 AM
rick holmstrom just left my pad,

he dug my two blues junior amps in one box with 4-10's

he put the slap back echo on one side with the reverb tank unit and ran the other side clean.. what a sound - even at low volume--

his latest pedal is a ghetto stomp, he ran it all the time on the last tour.
while using deluxes and twins..

the pedal works great withe the guitars volume knob to where it sounds like the pedals off -- really nice -- i ordered one.

rick dropped off 3 brian poe tele bodies -- all painted and ready to be built..

i asked hi about that amp in that old clip for you guys but - we forgot to review the clip and time ran out --
sorry

don

Goldie295
08-08-2007, 04:14 AM
A Ghetto Stomp eh?? Looked them up. You guys get all the good stuff in the US.

Has anyone tried a Liquid Sunshine by Subdecay? I use one when I can't turn up my Bassman. They sound great. Kinda like the amp volume at 2 O'Clock.

If you do try one, they are kind of hard to set up (one vol and two drive knobs. No tone). I set the volume at 12 with the lower drive full on. The upper drive is 12 to 3 depending on how hot the song is. 3 is Freddie King. 12 is Jimmie Vaughan (to my ears anyway).

Cheers,
Phil

Strat-O
08-08-2007, 07:03 AM
I ain't used an effects pedal in 15 years, and I ain't gonna start now.

signed,

Mr. Grumpy Face


I would have thought that the Fender Bassman and '65 Deluxe Reverb pedals by Boss would have been a real boon to the jetsetting guitar playah.

Shee-it, I reckon.

dddelta
08-08-2007, 07:37 AM
Dave Gross has been mentioned here in the past. He played a session on Paul Jones' Blues show here on the BBC on Monday.

Listen here

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/shows/jones/playlist.shtml

Click on Listen Again - hear the show.

mikelaw
08-08-2007, 07:59 AM
anyone know of current speaker replacement 12" 4 ohm?

monstermike
08-08-2007, 08:41 AM
Weber lets you specify ohmage, and I seem to recall that I had a 4-ohm Jensen reissue at one point as part of a complicated rig that had me running a 50-watt Marshall head and my Pro Reverb into separate speakers in the Pro's cab...Don't ask....

On the pedal front, I've been very impressed with the Barber/Clark Gainster for "tweed" tones - on a recent Sugar Ray Big Band gig, it was great for the Guitar Slim, Gatemouth, early B.B. and Johnny Gangsta Watson tones through my Victoria set clean. Dave Barber and I are also talking about tweaking his LTD SR to meet my needs a little better, and I can't wait to hear what he comes up with. I've been trying out a few of his other pedals, and the man's good. I say this as a guy who hates having a tuner pedal in line, much less overdrives, etc, but has terrible luck with amps overseas. And recently seeing Kirk Fletcher with an RC Booster and RickyKing Russell with a Klon...well, like we talked about with the Vaughans, it ain't necessarily about how cool the gear is.

Sometimes I need to get the heck over myself and listen to things for what they are and not what I imagine they'll be.

M

TwoFeets
08-08-2007, 09:09 AM
Weber lets you specify ohmage, and I seem to recall that I had a 4-ohm Jensen reissue at one point as part of a complicated rig that had me running a 50-watt Marshall head and my Pro Reverb into separate speakers in the Pro's cab...Don't ask....

On the pedal front, I've been very impressed with the Barber/Clark Gainster for "tweed" tones - on a recent Sugar Ray Big Band gig, it was great for the Guitar Slim, Gatemouth, early B.B. and Johnny Gangsta Watson tones through my Victoria set clean. Dave Barber and I are also talking about tweaking his LTD SR to meet my needs a little better, and I can't wait to hear what he comes up with. I've been trying out a few of his other pedals, and the man's good. I say this as a guy who hates having a tuner pedal in line, much less overdrives, etc, but has terrible luck with amps overseas. And recently seeing Kirk Fletcher with an RC Booster and RickyKing Russell with a Klon...well, like we talked about with the Vaughans, it ain't necessarily about how cool the gear is.

Sometimes I need to get the heck over myself and listen to things for what they are and not what I imagine they'll be.

M

I've been looking at all manner of relatively (less than $150) inexpensive gain/boosts lately so I can hit the front of the amp harder at lower volume gigs. I've looked at the BBE Boosta Grande, the EH LPB-1 and others. Problem with pedals down here is that other than your standard Boss fare, they're hard to find in stores and I really want to try something out first. I've thought about the Gainster, but I've never seen one in person, much less played through one.

Dave Orban
08-08-2007, 09:16 AM
I've been looking at all manner of relatively (less than $150) inexpensive gain/boosts lately so I can hit the front of the amp harder at lower volume gigs. I've looked at the BBE Boosta Grande, the EH LPB-1 and others. Problem with pedals down here is that other than your standard Boss fare, they're hard to find in stores and I really want to try something out first. I've thought about the Gainster, but I've never seen one in person, much less played through one.
I've used both the Crowther Hotcake and the Hermida Zen Drive, for just that purpose. And even through they're fairly different pedals, both can be made to do what you're looking for, and they both work pretty well at doing it. ;)

RickyKing
08-08-2007, 09:28 AM
anyone know of current speaker replacement 12" 4 ohm?

Try An Eminence Mike....Or Weber

VStackTweedy Pedal My Man Dave "Brown Shoes" Haley of Two Bones & A Pick loves it.
I REALLY LIKE LOU ANN BARTON ALOT....REALLY ALOT!!!!
http://www.v-stack.com/tweedy.htm

dukeh62
08-08-2007, 09:41 AM
Try An Eminence Mike....Or Weber

VTwin Tweedy Pedal My Man Dave "Brown Shoes" Haley of Two Bones & A Pick loves it.
I REALLY LIKE LOU ANN BARTON ALOT....REALLY ALOT!!!!
http://www.v-stack.com/tweedy.htm

That's V-STACK Tweedy. I've got one too which I bought specifically for use with that crummy backline supplied at the IBC in Memphis last year. Pretty cool pedal. Gets very close to a cranked tweed Deluxe tone...although you can tell there's that extra "amp mojo" missing. Not so great with rolling down the volume knob, but I figured out how to tweak it after a night or two with it.

Haven't used it since except for practicing at home. It's PERFECT for getting some fart tone at whisper volume.

monstermike
08-08-2007, 09:49 AM
When I tried the Tweedy for myself, I didn't like it much. I later went and looked at the site, and they based the tone on a Deluxe with a Pube Screamer, which explained my problem perfectly. If you could turn the TS emulation off, I thought it might have some potential.

The Gainster cleans up pretty well.

monstermike
08-08-2007, 10:20 AM
Off topic for a second -

Attention Rick Russell, Nick Adams, Eric Ducoff, Ryan Hartt, Mike Law, Jon Ross, Alec James, and whoever else is a New Englander that I'm missing!

I'm in a bind. I've got a Chan's date on Sept 1 with no bass player. The usual suspects (Mudcat, Hallen, Ballou) are all working, Jon's more than likely on the road with Duke, Dmitri from Roomful has a gig, I haven't heard back from Jesse Williams or Matt Malikowski, I believe Rod Carey's on the road with Debbie Davies, JB is probably working with Ryan...John Packer? Todd Carson? I don't have contacts. I love David Hull, but he's probably working with Monty, and I need more blues than Band of Gypsys.

Now what? Any contacts or anything would be appreciated. Email me. PM me. Call me.

Thanks!

Goldie295
08-08-2007, 10:22 AM
TwoFeets,

Where the venue just won't warrant a dimed Bassman but the Deluxe isn't enough I use the Subdecay Liquid Sunshine I mentioned before. Truth is, I have velcro on the bottom of it and I velcro it to the back of my amp so no-one knows I am using a pedal (what a con eh... :( ).

There are some experienced cats around my hunting ground and I am yet to find anyone that has realised they are listening to anything other than the amp. Set as I mentioned before, it is a winner.

I should say, I used to be the pedal king. I have tried everything. The LS is the only thing that has stood the test of time and I am talking from Keeley to Fulltone to Klon (and back). Best of all they are easy to get hold off because no one seems to know about them or they dismiss them as they don't have a tone control. Weird.

I have been thinking of getting a back up so I am tempted to say that if you don't like it I'll buy it off you, but you'll probably be able to get a 28 day money back trial anyway.

If it helps, the soundclips on my band's site are done using it. I went into the studio and the bassman had a dirty tube which was causing a funny buzzing noise above just on, on the volume dial. I had to play it quiet while using the pedal to get the sound. Consequently, the sound clips are very good indicators of how the pedal actually sounds. As I said before, I just leave it on the whole time. Turn guitar volume down to get the clean sound and up to get the lead tone. Perfect.

It is also great though Twins etc when doing gigs where you can't take your own gear.

Okay I have said enough now and no - I didn't invent the thing. ;)

I just found it at a guitar store in London a dug it.

Cheers,
Phil

jumpnblues
08-08-2007, 10:57 AM
Had someone ask for pics of my Louis Electric 10/12 prototype. Here's the link to the site. I only have the two pics for now. This amp just kills with everything I've plugged into it so far. Great clean sustain and bloom. And killer overdrive, even with my archtop doing West Coast swing stuff. Most versatile amp for the type of music I play (blues and swing jazz) I've ever played through. Sorry...don't get me started again. :horse:jo:cool:

Tom

http://www.picturetrail.com/members/...3&gid=17383110 (http://www.picturetrail.com/members/edit?p=2520&uid=9537383&gid=17383110)

straightblues
08-08-2007, 11:40 AM
I am a fan of the Clark Gainster as well. I have Barber version. It is a really good pedal for tweed tones. I also try not to ever use pedals but the reality is some times you need them. The Gainster is in my bag for those times. It is realatively inexpensive as well.

monstermike
08-08-2007, 12:33 PM
Thanks to everyone who provided bass contacts (and even offered to play if necessary!). It turns out that Matt Malikowski could do it after all, so I'm covered.

Lord knows the contacts will help out for the next time!

M

Echo Are
08-08-2007, 12:49 PM
I've been looking at all manner of relatively (less than $150) inexpensive gain/boosts lately so I can hit the front of the amp harder at lower volume gigs.

I'll throw this pedal in: The humble Boss GE-7 EQ. By moving up just the LEVEL slider(leave the EQ sliders at 0)it works great as a cheap, qucik-n-dirty signal booster.
http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/regular/3/5/5/338355.jpg
As a bonus, the 400 Hz and 800 Hz sliders are great for adding the missing midrange component to blackface and silverface Fender amps.

aja
08-08-2007, 01:08 PM
GREAT T-BIRDS VID !! That bass player seems familiar i think i saw him at a strip club last night.

Es- 150 Sweet sounding guitar is their just a neck pup on it. Holmstrom is the man with the jump stuff.

aja
08-08-2007, 01:16 PM
oh and JOHNNY FIVE ALIVE !!! lol Short circuit rulez

Dave Orban
08-08-2007, 01:23 PM
I'll throw this pedal in: The humble Boss GE-7 EQ. By moving up just the LEVEL slider(leave the EQ sliders at 0)it works great as a cheap, qucik-n-dirty signal booster.
http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/regular/3/5/5/338355.jpg
As a bonus, the 400 Hz and 800 Hz sliders are great for adding the missing midrange component to blackface and silverface Fender amps.Very true.

I've had one in my gig bag for years...! Also great for acoustic. ;)

mikelaw
08-08-2007, 01:25 PM
short circuit! lol.

TwoFeets
08-08-2007, 01:34 PM
Hey waitaminnit, I fly in on 9/1 in the afternoon... Dad's getting married on Sunday. If I can score a car, you might see me at Chan's!

blueskalle
08-08-2007, 03:55 PM
Hi everybody! I am knew here but have been lurking for quite some time. I got a tip from Dave Orban at another forum. This thread is the reason for joining this forum. I' m living i n Sweden and am really in to this music and the same players you guys are.
My rig contains of a Harmony H63 Espanada and a Tokai tst-50 Strat-copy throug a fender Blues senior amp( see www.vintage-vibe.net (http://www.vintage-vibe.net) for details). My only effects is a T-rex Tremster-pedal.
I play in an band called Buzzin'blues and we searching for a 50s /westcoastvibe. Feel free to check out our site www.buzzinblues.com (http://www.buzzinblues.com)
This is really a GREAT thread!:BEER
Kalle

hasserl
08-08-2007, 04:20 PM
What's the world coming to. Here I am as happy as a clam plugging straight into the amp, getting everything from the guitar and amp; and what's not there I do without. Now you guys are all talking about using pedals!

Hell, I rarely use pedals playing rock and roll, shouldn't need one at all to play the blues. A little wha pedal now and then, a little delay, a touch of onboard reverb, Maybe hit the front end a little harder with an SD Pickup Booster or an old TS9. I will use an attenuator though, to keep the overall volume down. I prefer an attenuator and a cranked amp to a quiet amp with a dirt pedal in front. Much better response and feel IMO. It does work the amp harder though.

Oh well, whatever works.

Strat-O
08-08-2007, 04:57 PM
Hey Kalle - Your band sounds good. I couldn't read a cotton pickin' thing on the website though. That other link (Vintage Vibe) didn't work too well, maybe there's something wrong with it. What's a Fender Blues Sr.?


I was fooling around about the pedals. But to each his own you know. I believe the big deal is with using back line amps and trying to get a decent sound. That's the best place to use pedals to me. Seriously, has anyone tried the Boss '59 Bassman pedal yet?

Echo Are
08-08-2007, 05:58 PM
I believe the big deal is with using back line amps and trying to get a decent sound. That's the best place to use pedals to me.

Here, here! I agree, great use for pedals. In fact, recently I used my Boss GE-7 EQ at a big blues jam in my area where it's backline amps or else you don't play. I used it to hit a blackface Vibrolux('67?) with more output and midrange. Worked great, got a cool blues tone and not the usual boingy-doingy surf music twang I always seem to end up getting when I plug my Tele into black and silverface Fender amps.

Oh, and don't use the GE-7 like a stompbox, I just turn it on when I'm ready to play and put it on top of the amp.

sideman
08-08-2007, 06:49 PM
MM - Kenny B, Luther Johnson's first call bass player, lives in VT when he's not on the road with Luther (as now). He's excellent. Email me if you want to reach him. Jetlag has my #.

sideman
08-08-2007, 06:51 PM
oops - just saw your second post.

RickyKing
08-09-2007, 11:56 AM
My What a quiet day......

Goldie295
08-09-2007, 12:16 PM
Ricky, I was just thinking the same thing. I think it's all this talk of pedals.

There is something I need to say to the group:

Hi everyone, my name is Phil I live in England and I am a pedalholic. I have been using pedals for over 10 years. I gave them up for over 18 months but fell right off of the wagon three months ago when my drummer said some of my solos needed more grit. I should have stood up to him but I took the easy way out. I am ashamed.

In honour to the group I am going to take Hasserl's advice: "what's not there I do without" and with your support I hope I will be able to kick the habit once and for all.

Phil

ps Going to see PoppaStoppa's band play in London tonight.

Stringmaster
08-09-2007, 01:38 PM
To hopefully start a discussion--I'm looking to expand my abilities for soloing, and trying to break out of my usual (safe) patterns--primarily pentatonic blues scales. I've done this long enough that it's become second nature. Of course the West Coast style encompases much more than pentatonic riffing.

How might I expand my playing? Do you more jazzy guys think scales, patterns, or riffs? Should I be focusing on learning in my head what notes I want to go for, and then finding them--i.e. a more melodic approach, or just learning and playing scales over the changes(this always seems too mechanical and lacking feeling)? Or perhaps just copying some of the masters?

Any tips/suggestions? I've got lots of instructional materials, but still looking for my aha! Help I'm stuck!
Thanks, DD

GOLDENSTRAT
08-09-2007, 01:40 PM
I'm still chuckling over Ricky's post on Lou Ann. fred
ok, I'll ask a pedal question - OCD or Gainster?

Scott Miller
08-09-2007, 02:28 PM
"How might I expand my playing?"

First, the notes are just part of the picture, and maybe not even the most important part. For blues playing, you really need to work on your rhythm, phrasing, and just mucking with the beat. You need to know when to swing, when to not swing, when to chunk, when to bounce, and when to flat-out plod. In other words, you need to play whatever the groove requires. The notes are important, but if your really bitchen notes kill the groove, you're being counter-productive. I'm being loud about this because I just kind of discovered it myself. The zeal of a convert and all.

Having said, that, to find the bitchen notes, the thing that works for me is to listen to the stuff you want to play, and then whenever you hear something cool, figure out what note they are playing, and over which chord.

Now, you could expand that approach to learn licks, but I prefer the one-note-at-a-time approach, because part of the effectiveness of the licks is the notes played over the chord. Once you get that building block, you can make your own licks, basing them on whatever the beat requires.

More importantly, I'm too lazy to learn an entire lick. One note is about all the patience I have time for. I'm reminded of something Johnny Cat told me. Jr. Watson was staying at his house, and Johnny got up in the morning and heard some nice jump blues, but with a kind of strange stereo guitar effect; Jr. Watson playing along with Chuck Norris, note for note, bend for bend, just exact as you could get. If you have the discipline for that... go for it.

blueskalle
08-09-2007, 04:01 PM
The Blues senior is a Blues junior in a 3x10 cab with Weber speakers. I've corrected the link to the dude who made it now. Im sorry for that:jo.
Kalle

valcotone
08-09-2007, 05:08 PM
Stringmaster... have a look here: http://www.swingblues.com/swing.htm

monstermike
08-09-2007, 07:10 PM
I'm still chuckling over Ricky's post on Lou Ann. fred
ok, I'll ask a pedal question - OCD or Gainster?

The OCD was way more Marshall than I anticipated from the description. Sure, it's JTM45, Plexi, or early metal-front Marshall instead of a JCM800, but it's still more Angus Young than Pat Hare. It is very sweet and dynamic, though.

Anyone see the mention of the Electro Harmonix Holy Grail Plus? It's in a smaller, sturdier box (the standard cast Hammond enclosure like Barber's pedals), it has a room setting, and it has a decay knob. Sounds like nice additions, and I'd definitely feel better about roadworthiness than the original. No mention of whether they fixed the noise, though...

THINSOCKS
08-09-2007, 07:41 PM
Cool post. That's really something I've tried to work on over the last year.... with admitted varying degrees of success. As my interest in other styles of music slowly started having a equal place next to my love of blues, I started feeling like the pentatonic scale was all I had and not making me very well rounded. Back when I use to take lessons with Watson he always use to stress playing melodies around chords. It's a really fun thing to sit down and look at a chord and play a melody around (and with) those notes. It helps if you got a good grasp of chord inversions, etc. That's something I can't say I have, but I'm working on it. Watson told me he got a lot of the more interesting chord shapes that he uses all the time out of the early Mickey Baker guitar books years ago. On the flip side, about 6 months back I started taking rather hard core weekly private guitars lessons using the Berklee Modern Method for Guitar books (There are 3 volumes). It basically starts you at the bonehead square one of music and your going to have to learn how to read music (Sorry, no tab), but in 6 months my sense of melody, how chords works and song structure has increased immensely. It really puts you in the mindset to really look at what your playing and fully understand why (and how) it works. I highly recommend that book (along with a great teacher to help you through it). If not, you could always grab Little Charlie when he comes to your town and take a lesson. ;)

KBR
08-09-2007, 07:50 PM
Stringmaster... have a look here: http://www.swingblues.com/swing.htm

I have some cool stuff coming out soon at www.redoakmusic.com
all kinds of stuff.

Goldie295
08-10-2007, 04:02 AM
Just wanted to follow up my last post and say I saw PoppaStoppa's band - Gentleman Tim and the Contenders (http://www.gentlemantim.com/) - last night at one the the best Blues Clubs in London - Ain't nothing but (http://www.aintnothinbut.co.uk/) - and what a great gig it was.

They pulled in a big crowd who really got involved with what the guys were playing. PS had his 'new' vintage H44 and it sounded spot on through a very battered Pro Junior.

Top stuff Sir.

Cheers,
Phil

jimfog
08-10-2007, 04:40 AM
Hey,

Caught Dave Orban w/ James Harman and Nathan James tonight.........

Dave played great, laying back and filling with just the right compliment to Nathan, then shining when he got a chance to step out........ and it was obvious Harman dug his playing. Nice to finally meet him, too........that 175 into his Matchless just sings.

Nathan James is just a beast.....great Robert Jr/ electric delta type fingerstyle playing, with lots of space and tone and groove. Really dug his comping for the harp, too.....and one hell of a voice.

It was kind of a pickup gig as Harman had never played with this band, and Jimmy Day and the Fish Fry really did an awesome job, on the spot. I thought my buddy Jeff on upright, in particular, was stellar. Proud to have him in my band.

Anyway...off to bed, but if you're near Point Pleasant, Nj Friday night or Delaware on Saturday, make sure to catch these guys. Rare to get West Coasters in the area.....and Icepick James is sure something to see live........a true character.

- Jim

dukeh62
08-10-2007, 09:23 AM
Cool post. That's really something I've tried to work on over the last year.... with admitted varying degrees of success. As my interest in other styles of music slowly started having a equal place next to my love of blues, I started feeling like the pentatonic scale was all I had and not making me very well rounded. Back when I use to take lessons with Watson he always use to stress playing melodies around chords. It's a really fun thing to sit down and look at a chord and play a melody around (and with) those notes. It helps if you got a good grasp of chord inversions, etc. That's something I can't say I have, but I'm working on it. Watson told me he got a lot of the more interesting chord shapes that he uses all the time out of the early Mickey Baker guitar books years ago. On the flip side, about 6 months back I started taking rather hard core weekly private guitars lessons using the Berklee Modern Method for Guitar books (There are 3 volumes). It basically starts you at the bonehead square one of music and your going to have to learn how to read music (Sorry, no tab), but in 6 months my sense of melody, how chords works and song structure has increased immensely. It really puts you in the mindset to really look at what your playing and fully understand why (and how) it works. I highly recommend that book (along with a great teacher to help you through it). If not, you could always grab Little Charlie when he comes to your town and take a lesson. ;)

I've really got to get my butt in gear and start "pushing the envelope" a littler further in my own playing. It's amazing how "settled" you can get with your regular bag of licks, songs, etc. But I'm starting to get bored hearing myself play! Time to hit the woodshed.

Maybe I'll bust out my Mickey Baker book.....again.

Monstermike: Thanks for the tip on the Holy Grail Plus. Might be worth upgrading to that model for my backup. Glad to hear they added the extra control. Really needed that.

RickyKing
08-10-2007, 09:46 AM
I've really got to get my butt in gear and start "pushing the envelope" a littler further in my own playing. It's amazing how "settled" you can get with your regular bag of licks, songs, etc. But I'm starting to get bored hearing myself play! Time to hit the woodshed.

Maybe I'll bust out my Mickey Baker book.....again.

Monstermike: Thanks for the tip on the Holy Grail Plus. Might be worth upgrading to that model for my backup. Glad to hear they added the extra control. Really needed that.

As a personal observation have been working through Mickey Baker Books 1 & 2 since I was a teenager (1969) and can attest ,as Junior can, that alot of really useful chord and arpeggio ideas come from there. There is a new version (original came out in 1955) that for the most part corrected.
Interior voice leading of chords is also a good thing to check out for solid and melodic rhythm work. I also think right hand work is what it is all about.
IMHO of course..

bbarnard
08-10-2007, 10:01 AM
More importantly, I'm too lazy to learn an entire lick. One note is about all the patience I have time for. I'm reminded of something Johnny Cat told me. Jr. Watson was staying at his house, and Johnny got up in the morning and heard some nice jump blues, but with a kind of strange stereo guitar effect; Jr. Watson playing along with Chuck Norris, note for note, bend for bend, just exact as you could get. If you have the discipline for that... go for it.

While I understand what you are saying, I find that when I AM disciplined enough to sit down and learn a solo from someone else I ALWAYS learn something different. I think it all has to do with someone else's approach or ears, but it always teaches me something. Then what I try to do is use all or parts of it in another context. Or to prod myself to do more of something. Some examples. Long time ago I learned the solo to Sweet Little Angel off the Live at the Regal LP. I've found that I can take that solo (or the outtro portion of the solo) and use it directly against say Stormy Monday. It sounds original because no one is expecting to hear it against Stormy Monday, they're expecting to hear T-Bone or the Allmans. But it works perfectly.

Right now I'm working on Gerontology by Little Charlie. I've only got about the first minute or so down but I can tell you that the thing it made me do is wake up to the fact that I don't slide into or out of notes enough. Plus I don't play rhythms against just one or two notes enough. I tend to rely on bends and playing more straight 8th type things. So it all helps me grow as a player to do this.

Another example, I learned the intro to My Mood off of Cuttin' Loose by Chris Cain. I also picked up a part to Just An Excuse off of Sapphire Blue by Larry Carlton. I put those two pieces together (with a little of me too) and I've got something that's "new". From the My Mood piece I also learned a nice little diminished lick that can be stuck over the IV-V change on some other pieces as a little segue type lick.

jawjatek
08-10-2007, 11:06 AM
I need help with my Pee Wee - Crayton, that is! As part of expanding my playing I am learning his stuff starting with "Blues After Hours". I have most of the lines, chords, and doublestops figured out, but the signature turnaround lick in bar 10 of verse 2 is defying me. I could use some help! TIA

aja
08-10-2007, 12:36 PM
Check out some of this vintage guitar stuff. Their a local guitar shop here in St. lou. www.killervintage.com (http://www.killervintage.com)

Scott Miller
08-10-2007, 12:41 PM
Come to think of it, I did learn an entire solo once; the Miles Davis solo on "Now's the Time." Man, those bebop guys and their timing. Mind boggling.

The first time I tried the Micky Baker book... not happening. Like a dog watching television. The second time, a couple of years later, I was at the point where I could see what he was getting at, but I wasn't ready to go there.

stevieboy
08-10-2007, 12:46 PM
Re After Hours--this lick?

A G B E D D an octave lower

jetlag
08-10-2007, 01:13 PM
Check out some of this vintage guitar stuff. Their a local guitar shop here in St. lou. www.killervintage.com (http://www.killervintage.com)

That shop has some outrageous inventory. Dave is a good guy who knows his stuff. I bought a 335 from him and have sold him some parts. Another good shop to check out in St Louis is Acme Guitars - Mike is a good friend of mine. While you're there you might ask Mike about playing/watching blues in E. St Louis back when Albert King lived there.

Strat-O
08-10-2007, 02:26 PM
Well I'm a feel guy myself. When I practice I spend most of my time working on the feel. That's where its at for me in blues. Its like a never ending cornucopia that I can't get bored with. Its the difference between playing all the right notes and licks, and conveying real emotion. Other than that I break open a book sometimes and try to pick up a new chord. I've never learned anybody else's guitar solo from start to finish, just worked on the feel and the notes that were the coolest.

:munch

Scott Miller
08-10-2007, 03:24 PM
Anyone familar with a SILVERTONE/DANELECTRO amp 1346 2-12? There's one on ebay. It's real ugly, in a bitchen way.

Dave Orban
08-10-2007, 04:00 PM
Hey,

Caught Dave Orban w/ James Harman and Nathan James tonight.........

Dave played great, laying back and filling with just the right compliment to Nathan, then shining when he got a chance to step out........ and it was obvious Harman dug his playing. Nice to finally meet him, too........that 175 into his Matchless just sings.

Nathan James is just a beast.....great Robert Jr/ electric delta type fingerstyle playing, with lots of space and tone and groove. Really dug his comping for the harp, too.....and one hell of a voice.

It was kind of a pickup gig as Harman had never played with this band, and Jimmy Day and the Fish Fry really did an awesome job, on the spot. I thought my buddy Jeff on upright, in particular, was stellar. Proud to have him in my band.

Anyway...off to bed, but if you're near Point Pleasant, Nj Friday night or Delaware on Saturday, make sure to catch these guys. Rare to get West Coasters in the area.....and Icepick James is sure something to see live........a true character.

- JimThanks for the kind words, Jim.

It was GREAT fun backing-up James and Nathan. What a combination!

Here's a lousy shot of us: Me on the 175, Nathan James on a '70s reissue Special, the inimitable James Harman on harp and vocals, Jeff Michaels on the doghouse bass, Ron Baldwin on keys, and unseen but definitely heard, the awesome Mark Shewchuk on drums!

http://www.oydesign.com/gypsies/pictures/20070809_harman1_ajs.jpg

And a fine time was had by all. Can't wait to do it again tonight and tomorrow night! :dude

mikelaw
08-10-2007, 07:15 PM
http://www.vintage-vibe.net/Projects/Blues_Senior/index.html

heres the blues senior. very cool idea

mikelaw
08-10-2007, 07:16 PM
congrats on the very cool gig dave! im sure you tore it up

Strat-O
08-10-2007, 07:58 PM
http://www.vintage-vibe.net/Projects/Blues_Senior/index.html

heres the blues senior. very cool idea

Yeah I thought so to. Kalle, does it use the standard Blues Jr OT? How are the speakers wired up?

GOLDENSTRAT
08-10-2007, 10:33 PM
This is a painfully hilarious clip of Snooks Eaglin dragging George Porter Jr. thru a tune at the Rock'n'Bowl. we've all been there in George's spot once or thrice.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGBKy5iMRBw

bluesjuke
08-11-2007, 01:17 AM
Mike, that Blues Sr. is mighty tempting.
I recently sold my Blues Jr. (kicking and scrathing all the way) to make another purchase happen.

With it being replaced in the not too distant future I may copy your project. Thanks!

Scott Miller
08-11-2007, 01:36 AM
Normally I don't exactly like being on the short end of a double-booking, but tonight it meant that I got the night off to see Nemeth and Watson. Kedar on bass, a non-local guy named Chris Revelli on drums. Matt Stubbs recommended him for the next leg of John's tour. The Kid sat in on bass and guitar. A lot of the Bay Area trad blues players were there. Duh.

musicofanatic5
08-11-2007, 01:40 AM
Chris Rivelli from the Boston area? I know that kid.

Scott Miller
08-11-2007, 01:51 AM
"Kid" is right. He's a pup. He did great.

bluesjuke
08-11-2007, 02:04 AM
Normally I don't exactly like being on the short end of a double-booking, but tonight it meant that I got the night off to see Nemeth and Watson. Kedar on bass, a non-local guy named Chris Revelli on drums. Matt Stubbs recommended him for the next leg of John's tour. The Kid sat in on bass and guitar. A lot of the Bay Area trad blues players were there. Duh.


On their stop in Dallas a few of our locals, Mike Morgan, Cheryl Arena, and Joel Foy showed and played with Nemeth and Watson.
It was a great night!

GOLDENSTRAT
08-11-2007, 02:04 PM
Is Watson playing with Nemeth through this month? Nemeth is in Colorado Aug. 20th. fred

jimfog
08-11-2007, 02:46 PM
Hey guys,

Hearing Nathan James got me thinking about Robert Jr.........he does that style real well.

So, other than the obvious (Little Walter, Sonny Boy), what are some of the essential Lockwood records that I should check into?

Thanks!

- jim

Scott Miller
08-11-2007, 03:22 PM
For this leg of the Nemeth tour: Matt Stubbs on guitar, Mike Phillips, bass, Chris Rivelli, drums.

Mike, Chris, and Matt informally start the tour at Mike's jam on Monday, maybe John will drop in. I think John said they are going to hook up with the horns somewhere in Texas, but I could be wrong.

For more Lockwood, I like the JOB stuff with Sunnyland Slim. There's a CD with Pearly B on it that someone here turned me onto. Killer. It makes you want to go get all the JOB stuff you can find.

jetlag
08-11-2007, 04:44 PM
Ditto all the JOB stuff with Sunnyland Slim. The stuff with Shines too. They're both outstanding.


http://www.mmguide.musicmatch.com/album/album.cgi?ALBUMID=1361907

http://www.mmguide.musicmatch.com/album/album.cgi?ALBUMID=1399078

blueskalle
08-11-2007, 04:47 PM
Strat-O: What do you mean with OP?
The speakers are one Weber10A125 in the upper position and two 10A100Tin the bottom position. There has been installet a biasadjustment knob and a "sole-control" that works like qutting the purple wire on bjr, which ive been told is a common mod on them.

Dave Orban
08-11-2007, 09:53 PM
Re: James Harman and Nathan James... OK, we finally got the dress code worked-out by Saturday's Wilmington (DE) Blues Festival gig. LOL!

http://www.oydesign.com/gypsies/pictures/harman_0188sm.jpg

http://www.oydesign.com/gypsies/pictures/harman_0191sm.jpg

http://www.oydesign.com/gypsies/pictures/harman_0192sm.jpg

Seriously, if you EVER get a chance to go see Harman, do it! He is THE shit, and why he isn't labeled-up. and backed-up with a ton of promotional support is simply beyond me. One of the best performers I've ever seen! And Nathan James is just a KILLER player. Both of these guys were incredibly accessible, and I'm absolutely honored to have shared the stage with them for the past three nights! :dude

GOLDENSTRAT
08-11-2007, 11:35 PM
Too Cool!!! fred

cigpow
08-12-2007, 12:12 AM
Hey Dave,


I was there! You sounded great, I really enjoyed your set.


Ian

Dave Orban
08-12-2007, 09:14 AM
Hey Dave,


I was there! You sounded great, I really enjoyed your set.


Ian
Thanks, Ian. Great weather, great crowd... it was a lot of fun!

Stringmaster
08-12-2007, 09:29 AM
Cool pics Dave!

Thanks all for the tips on expanding the repitoire--some of those online materials look helpful. KBR--I'll keep an eye out for those materials you referenced.

I too have been working (or owned) the Mickey Baker books since about '67. I find that they are difficult for me to work through--I always thought that it should be repackaged in a more modern format, with CD/DVD examples for more auditory learners like me.

I should also mention Mike Dowling's Swing DVD's on Homespun--he's a mentor of mine--I've done some camps/workshops, and I click with his teaching style--he goes for a more melodic approach, working out of basic "shapes". For someone like me that is more of a feeling based player, it works better than trying to memorize scales. While these are not Blues specific, I think there's some good stuff in there.

So, the expansion continues.
DD

Dave Orban
08-12-2007, 09:35 AM
Cool pics Dave!

Thanks all for the tips on expanding the repitoire--some of those online materials look helpful. KBR--I'll keep an eye out for those materials you referenced.

I too have been working (or owned) the Mickey Baker books since about '67. I find that they are difficult for me to work through--I always thought that it should be repackaged in a more modern format, with CD/DVD examples for more auditory learners like me.

I should also mention Mike Dowling's Swing DVD's on Homespun--he's a mentor of mine--I've done some camps/workshops, and I click with his teaching style--he goes for a more melodic approach, working out of basic "shapes". For someone like me that is more of a feeling based player, it works better than trying to memorize scales. While these are not Blues specific, I think there's some good stuff in there.

So, the expansion continues.
DD
I like Dowling's teaching style, too. Great player, would love to see him in concert some time!

Goldie295
08-12-2007, 01:35 PM
Great pics Dave. You are a very lucky so and so. What I would give just to be able to see James Harman from time to time let alone jam with him. Mucho respect.

-------------------

Earlier thie week I said I would do a short review of the Eastwood/Airline H44 DLX following my Saturday gig.

I believe it is made well enough for reliable gigging. There are a few little characteristics you will need to live with but nothing as bad as with vintage guitars (especially those you are trying to keep original). It sounds very bad ass. It does have the same sort of tone and sound as the original. Basically that means it sounds like an archtop on the front pickup and a telecaster on the back pickup (assuming you have an H88 or modified H44). But, it is hotter. This means you may need to avoid letting the volume go above 7/8. Personally, I liked the extra power. It pushed my Bassman into overdrive without having to wind it up (can't wait to see what it does to the Pro when it gets here...).

For the first time - after quite some trying - the Junior/Rick sound was there for me at a gig without too much effort. Essentially this guitar does exactly what it says on the tin. It has that old H44 sound. In fact you would struggle to get much else out of it soundwise.

Conclusion, if you are thinking of getting one, I would strongly urge you to do so as you will not be disappointed. I also got the hardcase (which is suprisingly cheap).

I honestly think these guitars are under priced. In fact compared to recent H44 prices, you could get one, put in original pups, have a new bridge cut and it would still be a bargain. Personally I will live with it as it is.

As an aside, the worse thing about the guitar at the gig was the fact it had on it the plinky 10s they ship it out with. I would have changed them before the gig but there has been some comment on the web that adding 11s or 12s causes the bridge (or something) to rip out of the guitar (!). I will be adding 11s tomorrow so I will let you know how it goes. (( :worried ))

Cheers,
Phil

Strat-O
08-12-2007, 04:05 PM
Kalle - OT is for output transformer. The standard Blues Jr is an 8 ohm. So with the three speakers I was wondering if he changed the OT or not. Do you know if they are 8 ohm speakers and how they are wired up?

Poppa Stoppa
08-12-2007, 04:07 PM
I need help with my Pee Wee - Crayton, that is! As part of expanding my playing I am learning his stuff starting with "Blues After Hours". I have most of the lines, chords, and doublestops figured out, but the signature turnaround lick in bar 10 of verse 2 is defying me. I could use some help! TIAstevieboy got the notes right if this is what you're after:
--5-3-------------------
---------5-3------------
-------4---------5-3----
----------------------5
-------------5-----------
------------------------

Goldie it was me that said about the screws being pulled out on the Airline. The strings lever the tailpiece against the strap button screw and made it pull out. Not a difficult repair - just needs a longer screw.

Orban you lucky dog! Nice pics.

jawjatek
08-12-2007, 04:20 PM
Yes - thanks to stevieboy, and yourself. I decided playing the open B on the third note and open D on the 6th note sounds more like the record, maybe? I got the tune down now, just need to hone what I have. Thanks!

monstermike
08-12-2007, 04:34 PM
Yeah - open strings.

KBR
08-12-2007, 06:25 PM
Can anyone post a pix if I send em one, jpeg?

TIA,

blueskalle
08-13-2007, 08:47 AM
Strat-O: I dont really know, but I'll send the builder an e-mail and ask him. He is an easygoing guy so he probarbly get back with a reply quik.

TwoFeets
08-13-2007, 03:03 PM
Between Nathan James and Sean, these guys are killing me, taunting me with these '74 LP Specials.

hasserl
08-13-2007, 03:07 PM
Can anyone post a pix if I send em one, jpeg?

TIA,

Sure Kenny, not a problem. Shoot it to me and I'll post it for ya.

GOLDENSTRAT
08-13-2007, 03:33 PM
Skillback and Ricky King, I just got my Valco/Vega back from the amp tech. He converted it to class AB and increased the output to 35 watts or so he says, from 24. If I plug my p90 tele into Premier reverb tank and jump the channels, every thing dimed, it roars big time. The amp is a little bright on the trem channel, nice tone on the other channel with the deep switch on. fred

Strat-O
08-13-2007, 04:11 PM
I just heard Rick Holmstrom's new disc today. I like it, its a blend of blues, rock, country, with some psychadelic stuff thrown in. Basically an experimental Americana/roots rock sounding collection of songs. Hydraulic Groove just ventured too far into a genre of music I don't enjoy listening to. This one is better; for me anyhow.

Anyway, I didn't bring it up to provide an album review, I figure most folks on here have probably heard it already. If anybody wonders what the Victoria Regal II (with an old P15N) sounds like, it sounds pretty much exactly like the tones that Rick gets on this CD. Reverb, trem and all. I have no clue what he played on the disc, but I'm sure it was something old. I thought someone might be interested to know this.

GOLDENSTRAT
08-13-2007, 04:42 PM
Strat-O, did you get a Regal II? Does that P15N sound way better than the stock speaker? Are you talking about " Late in the Night" from Rick? thanks, fred

Strat-O
08-13-2007, 05:43 PM
Yeah, Late in the Night. The old P15N doesn't really sound that much different than the stock Weber speaker. Pretty close. Its not quite as loud and not quite as sensitive. Goober here likes the less hi-fi sound of the older P15N. I was amazed to hear how much the guitar on the record sounds like the Regal though.

jumpnblues
08-13-2007, 09:27 PM
Sorry for being off topic but...has anyone tried a Guyatone FR3000V tank reverb? I read the reviews on H-C and for what they're worth the comments were pretty favorable (imagine that). Anyway, anyone had any experience with one of these for straight blues or West Coast swing blues? Other than this unit, it sounds like the Uncle Spot might be the one to have if ya' can't find or afford a vintage unit (Fender or Premier). But the Guyatone does sound interesting...lots of control flexibility. :cool::cool:

Tom

Scott Miller
08-14-2007, 02:17 AM
Man, talk about trying to keep up. I jammed with June, Kedar, and Matt Stubbs tonight. Matt is a killer player, with a goldtop and 60s Reverb-rocket 2. To be that young and that good... there's hope for blues yet.

Goldie295
08-14-2007, 03:27 AM
Jumpbblues

I have tried the Guyatone Reverb. It is a warm unit (much like the v.cool tremolo they do), but does not have the same sound (imho) as a Fender tank, which is really what you seem to be after in a West Coast context. If you want something to tide you over while you wait for a fender copy to be made (which is what I did) or to save up for an original I would recommend the Danelectro Spring King. You can get them cheap on ebay and they sound fine for what they are (Fender 63 reverb copies). They are also handy backups in case the vintage unit thows a wobbly during a gig.

To be clear, the SK is obviously not as good as the real thing and side by side has a slight digital edge (well it would, wouldn't it) but in the context of a gig the audience won't be able to tell much difference and you'll have the sound.

Cheers
Phil

jumpnblues
08-14-2007, 08:25 AM
Thanks Phil. I appreciate the info. Was just curious how they might compare to an Uncle Spot, just in case someone has heard both? Thanks again. There is precious little info. on these. I'm really dumbfounded why someone doesn't offer an exact (from a sound standpoint) vintage clone. I've read the Uncle Spot sounds really good but not exactly like a vintage tank. And maybe that's good, as vintage tanks do compress things a bit? As you can see from my previous posts I'm kind of struggling with this and I'm looking for the best reverb tank for the bucks, but one that sounds at least 90% (or more) like a vintage unit. I'd like a vintage unit but the cost is a bit of a "speed bump".

Tom

jetlag
08-14-2007, 08:42 AM
I don't think it's that hard to get an exact vintage clone of an old verb unit. That doesn't mean it sounds excactly like one, but it would be electronically identical. Keep in mind that old ones vary all over the map too. So it's a moving target kind of thing. Kendrick still makes one, there are weber kits, probably just about any of the tweed clone knockoff manufacturers would make you one if asked. I'm pretty sure that a good clone with an old reverb tank and nice tubes would get you close enough. Thing is, many of them aren't that much cheaper than an old black tolex unit unless you can find a used unit. That's kind of where the uncle spot fits in, it's a pretty good deal. It used to be a great deal.

jumpnblues
08-14-2007, 09:28 AM
Yeah, it still looks like the Uncle Spot is the best choice for me so far as I'm not technically proficient enough to build my own ala Weber.

Tom

TwoFeets
08-14-2007, 09:38 AM
Here's a random diversion:

Anyone here have the T-Bone "Back on the Scene 1966" disc?

Any idea who plays the other guitar bits on that record?

Allmusic doesn't credit any other guitarists on that record, but there's someone on it that clearly isn't T-Bone.

bluesowl
08-14-2007, 10:07 AM
Ignore the guitar playin' and tell me what you think about the singin'.
Coppin' off the vocal chops heard on the K. Wilson version or whoever sang it on K. Ramos's Greasy Kid Stuff (L. Slim? S.R. Norcia? can't member ). W. Dixon song.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RfBiZrZ-3A

Thanx,
Aaron

Been mining that Greasy Kid Stuff for obscure ones (obscure to most folks)
to sing.
Using my M. Lightning here...but I'll have-ta post other stuff to show what that thing (my sonic savior) can really do.

dukeh62
08-14-2007, 10:12 AM
Here's a random diversion:

Anyone here have the T-Bone "Back on the Scene 1966" disc?

Any idea who plays the other guitar bits on that record?

Allmusic doesn't credit any other guitarists on that record, but there's someone on it that clearly isn't T-Bone.

TenToes....I've got that one. Sorry, but not sure who plays the other guitar. Definitely NOT a recommended T-Bone record.

Strat-O
08-14-2007, 10:40 AM
Never heard that T-bone disc. I've got a Pee Wee album like that. Not much to listen to.

Blusowl - The vocals sound good.

I've seen a tank by Gomez Amplification that looks like a good copy of an original. If it looks cool, it must sound good...right?

GOLDENSTRAT
08-14-2007, 10:50 AM
Twofeets, found it. The credits show only T-bone as guitarist but the liner notes for the cuts from Pasadena, TX 1966 ( cuts 1.3.4.5.8.9.10) list a Joey Long at least on cut 8 " Back on the Scene". fred

btg
08-14-2007, 11:04 AM
Two Feets - It is Joey Long a guitar player from Houston who was a big influence on Johnny Winter.

TwoFeets
08-14-2007, 11:38 AM
Very cool info, thanks guys!

musicofanatic5
08-14-2007, 12:19 PM
Just putting it out that the Dook Robillard Travelling Swing/Blues Circus is gearing up and blasting off across America tommorrow on a nearly five week (long, strange, etc) trip. Not so much an advertisement for our gigs (it is a pretty decent act...), but an invitation to meet any of y'all that might be out there and attending one of our shows. Those of you that I do already know can expect to be hearing from me, but if I don't know ya and you come to a show, do come up and innerduce y'self. I'll be the one with the largest instrument (if you know what I mean!) on stage. Schedule at: http://www.rosebudus.com/tourdates/robillard.html
J.R.

TwoFeets
08-14-2007, 12:44 PM
Alright, here's another one - which of Muddy's bazillion guitarists played on the tune "One More Mile?" (this isn't trivia, I honestly don't know)

Similar stylistically to the fella on the T-Bone record, I thought.

rhartt1234
08-14-2007, 12:51 PM
Alright, here's another one - which of Muddy's bazillion guitarists played on the tune "One More Mile?" (this isn't trivia, I honestly don't know)

Similar stylistically to the fella on the T-Bone record, I thought.

Luther Tucker.

DonM
08-14-2007, 12:59 PM
Speaking this week with Henry-from The Mighty Flyers & Rick Holmstrom
I was shocked to learn about this:

when there on the road -- they are using Back`line rental amps.

usually its a TWIN, or a Reissue Deluxe..

they are forced to use pedals ,

Henry owns uses one of these,
Ghetto Stomp
KLON
Clark Gangster
Red Snapper

Rick uses,
Ghetto Stomp
currently,

prior I've seen him with the Red Snapper.

Food for thought, :AOK

mikelaw
08-14-2007, 02:20 PM
blues guys using klons! haha what has the world come to?

DonM
08-14-2007, 02:26 PM
Please pass the 9-Volt Tweed Can, someone stuck me with a Twin.

TwoFeets
08-14-2007, 02:30 PM
Luther Tucker.

You da man, Ryan!

jetlag
08-14-2007, 02:32 PM
Just putting it out that the Dook Robillard Travelling Swing/Blues Circus is gearing up and blasting off across America tommorrow on a nearly five week (long, strange, etc) trip. Not so much an advertisement for our gigs (it is a pretty decent act...), but an invitation to meet any of y'all that might be out there and attending one of our shows. Those of you that I do already know can expect to be hearing from me, but if I don't know ya and you come to a show, do come up and innerduce y'self. I'll be the one with the largest instrument (if you know what I mean!) on stage. Schedule at: http://www.rosebudus.com/tourdates/robillard.html
J.R.

Damn, no stop in Kansas City this time 'round. Too bad there isn't one sandwiched in there close to that Omaha date.

Scott Miller
08-14-2007, 03:11 PM
"the Dook Robillard Travelling Swing/Blues Circus"

Well, I would love to chonk you on the shoulder and all, but Sacramento is too far, and Yoshi's is a little too toney. When at the Torch Club, feel free to steal a mic cable. Their sound guy nabbed one of mine. Accidentally, of course.

Shades
08-14-2007, 03:11 PM
blues guys using klons! haha what has the world come to?I'm using one of the New Menatone Howies which, quite frankly, is about the last pedal I thought I'd ever like (as I'm a very anti dumble tone kind of guy.) It's a two channel pedal (I NEVER use channel 2) and channel one set low gets a great Fender just breaking up thing and the 3 band eq really helps dial in something when you have backline. I just leave the thing on and roll off the volume at the guitar for rhythm.

Strat-O
08-14-2007, 04:42 PM
Man, going across the USA and coming nowhere near the south. Just my luck.

I'm still surprised that no one has tried '59 Bassman Boss pedal. Of course, I haven't tried it either, so look whose talkin'.

jimfog
08-14-2007, 04:47 PM
Pedals and rented backline.......uggggg.

Couple that work.......

Barber Small Fry (gain and dynamic all the way down)

Bad Monkey - really!!...again, gain pretty low.....

Even a good fuzzface or especially a variation, like the McFuzz can nail a good warm tweed-y fart tone.........just be careful with that gain, Eugene!

- Jim

Brion
08-14-2007, 06:17 PM
Hey guys, just checking into this thread. I've been trying to read through it, but it's a doozie!! I'm looking for some new musicians to listen to. I have a bunch of blues stuff like BB, Albert and Freddy king, T bone, Buddy Guy, Ronnie Earl, Robillard, T-Birds and Little Charlie. If you were posed with the following statement, 'If you like Little Charlie and the Nightcats, you really need to check out ____________.' What artists and or particular recordings would you use to complete it?

Looking forward to your replies. :)

rhartt1234
08-14-2007, 06:54 PM
'If you like Little Charlie and the Nightcats, you really need to check out ____________.' What artists and or particular recordings would you use to complete it?

Looking forward to your replies. :)

Uhhh...Ryan Hartt & the Blue Hearts?:rolleyes:
http://www.ryanhartt.com/Home.html

monstermike
08-14-2007, 06:57 PM
Junior Wells' "It's My Life Baby." Sonny Boy Williamson's "Essential" on Chess. Any good compilation of Charlie Christian.

GOLDENSTRAT
08-14-2007, 07:52 PM
If you like the songs/ lyrics, czech out Billy Boy Arnold. If you like Little Charlie's guitar, check out Oscar Moore, Junior Watson or Bill Jennings. fred

Strat-O
08-14-2007, 08:40 PM
Hmm. If you like Little Charlie and the Nightcats, what would be something that would be in that vein? We also listen to a bunch of cool stuff, but the only thing that comes to mind for me that's in the ballpark of Little Charlie's thing is Kim Wilson's "Smokin' Joint". Its a live disc with a ton of great guitar, harp and killer blues tunes.

Some