West Coast Blues Thread - Version 2.0

[musicofanatic5]

Fabulous Igor, just freakin' fabulous.
There's been a thread on our local Blues email group all about how Blues needs to modernize to survive and catch on with young folks. You and all the other younger guys on this thread are proof that it ain't true!
It occurred to me recently that I am now the same age that Mojo Buford was when he first offered me a spot in his band and now I better understand why those old timers were so excited to find a mess of kids that were interested in their music.

Right the f*ck on, Danno! I, too, have seen many youngsters coming up (in my area, Troy Gonyea, Nick Currin, Matt Stubbs, etc) who dig the classic blues sounds, and do not think blues music needs shredo gtr solos, reverse gated snare drums, and turntable scratching to keep it viable. I personally will continue to do all I can to open their eyes and ears and keep 'em open.

[Scott Miller]

Heap big helpings of early Jimmy Nolen can be found on: Complete Monte Easter Vol. 2.

While we're at it, Nolen with James Brown in a seriously deep groove:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_foam7wruo

[bluesjuke]

Igor, I watched every video of you guys that was on YouTube after seeing the first one.
This is some of the most fantastic stuff I've heard in a long, long time.

Keep up the good work!

[GOLDENSTRAT]

Scott, thanks for telling me why the heck that cd has been on BlueBeats mainpage for so long. I take it it's worth the money? fred

[Scott Miller]

"...why the heck that cd has been on BlueBeats mainpage for so long. I take it it's worth the money?"

Har! Yeah, it doesn't look like much, some geeky dude with a trumpet, I was kind of expecting LA revival jazz or something, but then I hunted around and found it has Maxwell Davis on sax, indicating Central Avenue R&B. Which is pretty much what it is.

It's not going to shake your world like the first time you hear Willie Johnson or Magic Sam, but I'm a huge Jimmy Nolen fan, and it's got a lot of him on it, so it's worth MY money, anyway. He fills an interesting niche on his early stuff; not as raw as Pee Wee Crayton, not as smooth as Oscar Moore, kind of in-between.

[Scott Miller]

Igor, that's great stuff. "No More Doggin" is hard to sing, for me. I love the long 4 you guys do on that. "Shake a Hand" is a great tune to just let fly on, guitar-wise.

[GOLDENSTRAT]

That James Brown youtube clip reminded me of a vid I have of a Montreaux JB concert from the 70's where he mentions some recently departed musicians like Janis and Jimi and builds up the other guitar player (not JN) with an intro about how he's going to play like Jimi Hendrix now and when its time the poor guys guitar (a Peavey strat thing) goes totally silent and he can't get nuthin' goin' - tries cord, amp everthing but nuthin' doin'! totally embarrassing . Well, I guess I'll head out for the gig tonight with my Peavey strat slide guitar thing. see ya. fred

[hasserl]

I´ve posted new clips in youtube, and I trying to sing some songs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHPT4Zi7QqM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rM3OutTKuo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9doGG1QAnE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaq3PnHZLLk


All The Best

Igor Prado

Holy Crap!!! Great stuff Igor. I love to watch you play. I'm always amazed when someone plays upside down like that, it's just great fun to watch. But I'd be digging your music if I was blindfolded. Your singing is great too man, you guys are the real deal.

[hasserl]

Fabulous Igor, just freakin' fabulous.
There's been a thread on our local Blues email group all about how Blues needs to modernize to survive and catch on with young folks. You and all the other younger guys on this thread are proof that it ain't true!
It occurred to me recently that I am now the same age that Mojo Buford was when he first offered me a spot in his band and now I better understand why those old timers were so excited to find a mess of kids that were interested in their music.

In my blues jam group there are quite a few youngsters coming out. One of the best players we've got is an 18 year old kid still in school.

[mikelaw]

vibutron demo here. awful playing on my part. just trying to demo the pedals and show the somewhat dynamic aspect of the ghetto stomp too. kbr you were asking about trem/vib pedal....this is the one!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cQj8B0CdUo

[blueskalle]

Hey Igor!
You and your band are truly awesome! I envy guys who can belt out the blues and play some mean guitar at the same time.

[blueskalle]

I dont know if its availble in the US, but swedish bluesman Sven Zetterberg has a new cd out called "Hollerin up a storm" featuring Anders Lewen on guitar and Sven singing and blowing harmonica. Just pure good ol'blues( all orginals). No soul at all. A strong contender for album of the year, in my opinion, humble as can be.:)

[monstermike]

Just pure good ol'blues( all orginals). No soul at all.

Maybe that's not the best choice of words to promote a CD....

[RickyKing]

Maybe that's not the best choice of words to promote a CD....

+1 LOL:worried

[blueskalle]

:p:messedup You got me!
I meant no Southern soulmusic, which Sven has done on his last three albums. But know his back with the blues!

[Strat-O]

There's been a thread on our local Blues email group all about how Blues needs to modernize to survive and catch on with young folks.

Ha! I love it when people make that idiotic statement. Tell the local "blues" fans that this already happened. It started in the 50's and its still going on today. Its called "Rock Music". It has its own f'in section at a music store. There's plenty to pick from...

[afenderman67]

which Mickey Baker book do you guy's like the best?


thanks! chris

[frank62]

which Mickey Baker book do you guy's like the best?


thanks! chris
I have the first two. I have been working with them for over 20 years. I will say if you can play everything in those books you are one of the best players alive.

[fretshop]

Right the f*ck on, Danno! I, too, have seen many youngsters coming up (in my area, Troy Gonyea, Nick Currin, Matt Stubbs, etc) who dig the classic blues sounds, and do not think blues music needs shredo gtr solos, reverse gated snare drums, and turntable scratching to keep it viable. I personally will continue to do all I can to open their eyes and ears and keep 'em open.

Ditto...DOUBLE DITTO !!!!

Jon, I see you made it home safe and sound. It was a lot of fun catching up in New Hope. You sounded like your typical awwesome self.

G-Man

[Strat-O]

Musicofanatico - You played bass on Kim Wilson's "Looking For Trouble" album?

[zappafrank]

Igor---

Outstanding---THAT is the shite!!!

You got my vote for 'best' whatever!!!

Time for a North American tour, bro---

ac

[TwoFeets]

Igor---

Outstanding---THAT is the shite!!!

You got my vote for 'best' whatever!!!

Time for a North American tour, bro---

ac

Yeah, so the 75 people in this country who still give a hoot about this kind of music (most of whom, incidentally, post to this thread) will have a chance to see you guys live.

Rather, I think it's time for a whole bunch of us to take a trip to Europe...

(Bitter, party of one please?) :-)

[fretshop]

vibutron demo here. awful playing on my part. just trying to demo the pedals and show the somewhat dynamic aspect of the ghetto stomp too. kbr you were asking about trem/vib pedal....this is the one!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cQj8B0CdUo

The Vibutron is an awesome pedal for about $250. A-B'ing against the Vibrostomp, both pedals have some inherent merits:

Vibrostomp: The pedal runs beautifully off a Boss PSA-120 adaptor, and has an internal, self regulating power/phase supply which will allow the user to daisy chain several effects out from the Vibrostomp, so there is no need for additional adaptors. Two amps may be operated in unison for a "stereo" effect. The pedal offers the used a choice between a decent semblance of the vintage Magnatone pitch shift vibrato, and Fender Brown tremelo circuitry with adjustable speed and intensity controls/switches. Uses adaptor only, no battery option. $400 Better carry a spare adaptor in case one goes bad.

Vibutron: The vibrato is dead quiet, it actually throbs, it's so intense....Pop Staples is in the house!! Battery, or adaptor power option. Beaurtifully built. All around, the best buy. Although it doesn't have the Maggie style vibrato effect...the depth and texture of the vibrato is the best I've heard.
$248 at Manny's, NYC., or several internet vendors.

Bottom line: If you're using multiple effects, the Vibrostomp may be your best option...it keeps the mess and tangles on the floor down to a minimum, unless you have a nice fancy pedal board, which most of my blues/R&B compatriots don't have.

If you don't mid using battteries, or have a pedal board with power supply the Vibutron is the hands down choice for one of the most intense effects I have ever heard.

Note: From what the folks at One Spot claim, if you use their adaptor, you may be able to daisy chain multiple effects off a box like the Vibutron.

[jumpnblues]

"[Ha! I love it when people make that idiotic statement. Tell the local "blues" fans that this already happened. It started in the 50's and its still going on today. Its called "Rock Music". It has its own f'in section at a music store. There's plenty to pick from...]"


My sentiments too, FWIW. Keep "changing" and "adding" and it's no longer blues.

Tom

[aja]

Well put. I often feel pressured to play rock because i'm one of a few people that are into blues.

[THINSOCKS]

"[Ha! I love it when people make that idiotic statement. Tell the local "blues" fans that this already happened. It started in the 50's and its still going on today. Its called "Rock Music". It has its own f'in section at a music store. There's plenty to pick from...]"


My sentiments too, FWIW. Keep "changing" and "adding" and it's no longer blues.

Tom

I'm not trying to play devils advocate here, but I do feel like blues needs to do something new in order to not remain so stagnate. I don't know if I would exactly use the word "modernize" though, but personally I do feel like something fresh would be a welcome change. There were a lot of pioneers in the early stages of blues. I don't see that now though. Just look at how many regional styles of blues there are and how musicians were neatly tied in with those styles (T-Bone = West Coast, Muddy = Chicago), but now it's just a bunch of guys that can play all those styles well, but are not really adding a new one of their own. I once was a pretty hard core "blues nazi". I dressed and played the part, etc. The thing is though, I already own all those old records. If I want to listen to a Little Walter or Johnny Guitar Watson song I'm going to listen to Little Walter or Johnny Guitar Watson do it. I already bought those records once, so while I still get excited hearing guys do "civil war reenactment thing" live, my money is always going to go towards the guys doing something different. That's just how it works for me. Speaking as a fan of the music and not a guitar player.

[Swingblues]

Hi Guys, my new video in Rio de Janeiro (Jazz/Blues Festival):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8JGXvk_Ytk

All the best!
Igor Prado

[Scott Miller]

"...blues needs to do something new in order to not remain so stagnate."

There are different ways of doing something new. One is to change the music into something else. The other is to stamp it with your personal take, which inevitably takes it somewhere new, but incrementally, and still as blues. Albert Collins comes to mind; heck a lot of players did that. Albert King invented Albert King licks. Part of the blues tradition is innovation through personal vision, if you want to get all woo-woo about it.

So, what I like is when I hear someone playing the same old blues, but in their own way.

[blueskalle]

Igor, stop it!!! Youre killin us...;) GREAT!!!!
Kalle

[THINSOCKS]

"...blues needs to do something new in order to not remain so stagnate."

There are different ways of doing something new. One is to change the music into something else. The other is to stamp it with your personal take, which inevitably takes it somewhere new, but incrementally, and still as blues. Albert Collins comes to mind; heck a lot of players did that. Albert King invented Albert King licks. Part of the blues tradition is innovation through personal vision, if you want to get all woo-woo about it.

So, what I like is when I hear someone playing the same old blues, but in their own way.

True. But I do think it's funny you mentoned two guys who have not recorded in the last almost 15 years.

[fretshop]

"...blues needs to do something new in order to not remain so stagnate."

There are different ways of doing something new. One is to change the music into something else. The other is to stamp it with your personal take, which inevitably takes it somewhere new, but incrementally, and still as blues. Albert Collins comes to mind; heck a lot of players did that. Albert King invented Albert King licks. Part of the blues tradition is innovation through personal vision, if you want to get all woo-woo about it.

So, what I like is when I hear someone playing the same old blues, but in their own way.

I can listen to the same vintage recordings over and over again...and learn something new every time. I was fortunate to happen onto the original WCB thread (The OTHER thread), and absorb the collective ideas and opinions of talented music devotees....and I specifically did not limit the phrase to "Blues Devotees". I believe that our collective "open mindedness" has transformed us all into better players...and better listeners since gettng involved here.

As a joke, I had an old addage added to the bottom of my business stationary : "The secret to success in the music business....Trends...like horses, are easier to ride in the direction they are going", which from a purely commercial stand point, makes sense when an artist, or a record company either wishes to generate and develop a target audience for a new genre, or attempts to breathe new vigor into an established art form. The problem here is, the general entertainment audience/consumer base is fickle....and in constant metamorphosis....but they have $$$, and that reality drives the market. So...the common quick fix approach to dealing with a "mass" audience is to keep bending the form until the money looks and listens.

Then there's us. In every niche of the art and performance realm there are passionate followers whose deication to, and compulsive study of an art form leads to individual interpretation.

XO

The Old Dog....no new tricks...just new ways.

P.S. so like...where's my photo ?

[Scott Miller]

"where's my photo"

I actually started walking around the corner with the camera yesterday, then I thought someone might get crispy about some hairy guy in a tie-dye shirt and mukluks taking photos of their house, so I'll wait until a weekday when they probably aren't home. Keep reminding me, though.

[Strat-O]

I'm not trying to play devils advocate here, but I do feel like blues needs to do something new in order to not remain so stagnate. I don't know if I would exactly use the word "modernize" though, but personally I do feel like something fresh would be a welcome change. There were a lot of pioneers in the early stages of blues. I don't see that now though. Just look at how many regional styles of blues there are and how musicians were neatly tied in with those styles (T-Bone = West Coast, Muddy = Chicago), but now it's just a bunch of guys that can play all those styles well, but are not really adding a new one of their own. I once was a pretty hard core "blues nazi". I dressed and played the part, etc. The thing is though, I already own all those old records. If I want to listen to a Little Walter or Johnny Guitar Watson song I'm going to listen to Little Walter or Johnny Guitar Watson do it. I already bought those records once, so while I still get excited hearing guys do "civil war reenactment thing" live, my money is always going to go towards the guys doing something different. That's just how it works for me. Speaking as a fan of the music and not a guitar player.

I couldn't personally agree more. But when you hear the "taking the blues somewhere new" statement, 99.999999% of the time its seems that someone is really referring to rock.

The examples are endless; Joe Bonamassa, Gary Moore, etc. Fabulous musicians playing rock, but claim to be playing blues that's been taken somewhere "new"; which would be rock.


The primary problem is that blues is cool because of Muddy, Wolf, etc, so every guitar player wants to attach themselves to blues. And, unfortunately there is more to blues than playing the pentatonic scale and a 1-4-5 progression.


Being a rock player is cool, so I don't understand the endless pre-occupation people have with attaching themselves to blues. Rock came out of blues and that's cool, no reason to be ashamed.


I also love hearing bands playing blues (really blues not rock) with a personal stamp on it that makes it worth listening to over and over again. I don't listen to any band and turn up my nose because they don't sound like the "studied the masters enough". We've all heard the masters and, like you guys said, we can go listen to them anytime we want.

:BEER

[Scott Miller]

"Rock came out of blues and that's cool, no reason to be ashamed."

Someone needs to start a Blues-rock Liberation Movement. Blues-rock and proud! Raise your TubeScreamer high!

That would solve so many problems.

[Strat-O]

Essentially, we have rockers claiming to play blues because its cool and because rock came out of the blues.

Then we have the hardcore blues fanatics focused on nothing but "re-enactments" because its cool to prove you can do it, and its an all consuming passion.

Then you have the more casual blues fanatics (labeled posers in another Gear Page thread debate) who want to play classic blues but don't quite get it and either don't have talent, or they don't put in the time to do it well. Or both.

Then you have the classic blues fanatics who have absorbed the music as much as they can, have the vibe, and don't care if they sound exactly like "the masters". They are more concerned about being themselves. This seems to be the minority.

Then you have the blues fans...who really don't care about any of this, they just like to hear good music that's played with passion and soul. And whatever it is, they're gonna call it blues because the blues is cool. But they know when something they hear sounds stale. They can spot it a mile away.

[S.W.Erdnase]

If the whole thing is about getting gigs and going toe to toe with rock and punk bands, then the only issue is to FIND the right material so that you're playing blues without compromise and fooling the idiots. Tell me the Red Devils couldn't have opened for the Ramones and stolen the show. "King King" is harder edged than most any punk record I've ever heard and 100% blues with no compromise.

It's what you play and how you sell it that counts.

[Poppa Stoppa]

Just give me music that swings, players that can groove, solos that fit the beat and the chords, melodic ideas, licks that set up the next chord...it ain't asking much!

[valcotone]

Then you have the blues fans...who really don't care about any of this, they just like to hear good music that's played with passion and soul. And whatever it is, they're gonna call it blues because the blues is cool. But they know when something they hear sounds stale. They can spot it a mile away.


Nicely said Strat-O... as a fan this is what works for me too. I endeavor to take any CD or live show for what it is and try not to categorize it FIRST before I decide whether I dig it or not. I listen to and enjoy recordings from the masters, the civil war dudes, modern rockin' blues, and everything in between (not to mention rock, jazz, etc...).

Looking back I think the stand out blues recordings from the last few years that I've gone back to again and again are ones that raise a toast to the authentic styles, but do try to do something new by pushing themselves as musicians and songwriters... some notable exceptions to this are bands that don't break new ground at all, but do the old-school thing SO DAMN WELL that it's a pleasure to listen to.

[aja]

KILLER IGOR !! :dude

[musicofanatic5]

Musicofanatico - You played bass on Kim Wilson's "Looking For Trouble" album?

Hey, don't blow my cover, man. Yeah, but my name is misspelled in the credits (thanks a lot, Wilson!), so, to me, it's not a credit.

[Schwalbe]

Hey, don't blow my cover, man. Yeah, but my name is misspelled in the credits (thanks a lot, Wilson!), so, to me, it's not a credit.
So then you remain anonymous! Hey anybody know who that Musico guy is?

[Schwalbe]

Tell the local "blues" fans that this already happened. It started in the 50's and its still going on today. Its called "Rock Music". It has its own f'in section at a music store. There's plenty to pick from...]"I did. Oh that's gonna start a sh!t storm:crazy:eek:


There are different ways of doing something new. One is to change the music into something else. The other is to stamp it with your personal take, which inevitably takes it somewhere new, but incrementally, and still as blues. Albert Collins comes to mind; heck a lot of players did that. Albert King invented Albert King licks. Part of the blues tradition is innovation through personal vision, if you want to get all woo-woo about it.

So, what I like is when I hear someone playing the same old blues, but in their own way.
Exactly, and personally, what I've always tried to do.

True. But I do think it's funny you mentioned two guys who have not recorded in the last almost 15 years.Well...they've got a pretty good excuse for that.

[Short Bus]

There is nothing new. There is only new interpretations of the existing 12 notes and 4 beats in western music. It sounds like a load of crap, but so few artists prove that theory wrong we end up believing it. There was no way the guitar could be a classical instrument until Segovia showed the world. There was no way the guitar could be a featured solo instrument in jazz until Django, Charlie, and others showed the world.

That's an entirely different argument than the pop culture argument. Pop culture is its own entity. It feeds on and destroys what it chooses to. At some point in the recent past, 25 years or so, innovation stopped being promoted and the image became the lasting memory. Pop culture doesn't care that insert-whatever-pop-starlet can't sing on key, or play an instrument. Pop culture only cares that it can shine its light on her/him/it enough to satisfy itself. If that satisfaction is money, greed, lip-service, hype, or whatever doesn't matter either.

Will pop culture ever shine its light on the blues again? It could be argued that it never did. It only shined its light on the players influenced by the blues, meaning rock stars, blues rock stars, etc. Muddy, Wolf, Albert, Freddie, etc. would have been forgotten without Clapton, the Stones, SRV, etc. deflecting some of their spotlight on them.

In other words discover, listen to, and play whats in your heart and soul. The rest will take care of itself.

Wow. Maybe I could be the next pompously jaded music critic.... :crazy

[rhartt1234]

If I want to listen to a Little Walter or Johnny Guitar Watson song I'm going to listen to Little Walter or Johnny Guitar Watson do it. I already bought those records once, so while I still get excited hearing guys do "civil war reenactment thing" live, my money is always going to go towards the guys doing something different. That's just how it works for me. Speaking as a fan of the music and not a guitar player.

Okie dokie...no pun intended, I agree with just about everything said here.

I agree that Blues must continue to evolve to remain relevant but if it evolves too much it becomes something else. So there's a middle ground I suppose. Where is it? Who decides where it is? Doesn't matter. There will always be someone trying to do "bring Blues to a new place" and there will always be someone "preserving the tradition" Some will succeed and some will suck. I think when someone approaches music with a premise that contrived it will fall short of that goal.

As a musician I can't do much besides play the music I want to play. I used to have all that "preserving the tradition" "keeping the blah blah blah alive etc" mumbo jumbo in my bio. These days I'm too bald for a pompadour (though I'm still fond of a snazzy suit and cool shoes) and I cast a wider net as far as musical styles I enjoy and thus incorporate into my music. But that sound of Muddy Waters and Little Walter that made me flip my lid when I was 13 will ALWAYS be the root of what I play.

As a fan I'll buy what I like and again the middle of the road is for me. I like the new "old school" bands as long as they aren't doing stuff note for note and I like modern stuff as long as it doesn't get too crazy.

In summation, play what you dig and people will dig it. Buy what you dig and you will dig it.

So Thinsocks who do you think is doing something different these days?

I think some people have taken a good Blues foundation and done something different with it.
Robert Cray
SRV
T-Birds (although I'll take the first two records over everything else)
Lester Butler
Rick Holmstrom

I can also think of people like Rusty Zinn, Teddy Morgan and Susan Tedeschi that were doing something different with their traditional Blues backgrounds and then took it far enough that I wouldn't call it Blues. I'm not saying it's bad just something else.

[mikelaw]

Hey, don't blow my cover, man. Yeah, but my name is misspelled in the credits (thanks a lot, Wilson!), so, to me, it's not a credit.

wwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
:)

[jumpnblues]

"[Quote:
Originally Posted by THINSOCKS http://www.thegearpage.net/board/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?p=3186470#post3186470)
If I want to listen to a Little Walter or Johnny Guitar Watson song I'm going to listen to Little Walter or Johnny Guitar Watson do it. I already bought those records once, so while I still get excited hearing guys do "civil war reenactment thing" live, my money is always going to go towards the guys doing something different. That's just how it works for me. Speaking as a fan of the music and not a guitar player.

Okie dokie...no pun intended, I agree with just about everything said here.

I agree that Blues must continue to evolve to remain relevant but if it evolves too much it becomes something else. So there's a middle ground I suppose. Where is it? Who decides where it is? Doesn't matter. There will always be someone trying to do "bring Blues to a new place" and there will always be someone "preserving the tradition" Some will succeed and some will suck. I think when someone approaches music with a premise that contrived it will fall short of that goal.

As a musician I can't do much besides play the music I want to play. I used to have all that "preserving the tradition" "keeping the blah blah blah alive etc" mumbo jumbo in my bio. These days I'm too bald for a pompadour (though I'm still fond of a snazzy suit and cool shoes) and I cast a wider net as far as musical styles I enjoy and thus incorporate into my music. But that sound of Muddy Waters and Little Walter that made me flip my lid when I was 13 will ALWAYS be the root of what I play.

As a fan I'll buy what I like and again the middle of the road is for me. I like the new "old school" bands as long as they aren't doing stuff note for note and I like modern stuff as long as it doesn't get too crazy.

In summation, play what you dig and people will dig it. Buy what you dig and you will dig it.

So Thinsocks who do you think is doing something different these days?

I think some people have taken a good Blues foundation and done something different with it.
Robert Cray
SRV
T-Birds (although I'll take the first two records over everything else)
Lester Butler
Rick Holmstrom

I can also think of people like Rusty Zinn, Teddy Morgan and Susan Tedeschi that were doing something different with their traditional Blues backgrounds and then took it far enough that I wouldn't call it Blues. I'm not saying it's bad just something else.]"



I've tried to say that in previous posts but you said it much better than I. Adding something new to blues to me is, for example, Junior Watson, Kirk Fletcher, Nick Curran, Danny Caron, The Mighty Blue Kings, young Matt Schofield, and Ke'b Mo to name just a few. For me, examples of very talented artists changing blues into something else altogether are Walter Trout, Joe Bonnamassa, Gary Moore, Chris Duarte, Jonny Lang, etc. As I said, the latter artists are tremendously talented people and play very good music. It's just gone too far beyond what I feel (and hear) as the "boundries" of blues to be referred to as blues. Although they are quite capable of playing the music within those boundries. And there's nothing wrong with that. I just prefer the more traditional music within the boundries of straight blues and that same music with a different spin but that still remains straight blues. How's that for a vague description? LOL!! Oh yeah, I also really, really, like the music that blends straight blues and classic swing jazz.
I feel badly when some people are actually offended by my lame attempts to describe or define what I feel is blues. They confuse defining with dissing. I have great respect for the talents of many blues rockers like Joe Bonnamassa and Jonny Lang. I used the example in a post in a previous thread...someone says to me, "I saw a great blues guitarist last night". I say, "Cool, who was it?"...they say, "Walter Trout". Now I may/may not say anything to that person but I'm at least thinking to myself, "That's not blues, it's blues influenced rock and roll." To me that's not dissing Walter. It's simply expressing an opinion. If ya' really want to know how I feel about it read Ryan's post. It's much better than mine.
OK, I'm done. Gotta' go to bed. :BluesBros :cool::cool:

Tom

[rhartt1234]

Enough pontificating! Like Elvis Costello (or Frank Zappa depending on who believe) said "Writing about music is like dancing about architecture"

I would just like to comment on the videos Igor has posted. All I can say is merda holy!
They are so good they make me spontaneously curse in a language I only know from Stan Getz songs about girls on beaches. I've heard a lot of good Blues bands coming from S. America and Brazil in particular recently. It's the new Sweden!

[Autopilot Slim]

Thanks for the vids Igor. You and your band are sounding great.
Love the tunes. Your guitar and vocals are kick*ss!

[Strat-O]

The video's are excellent performances Igor. Very nice. What's your guitar rig G?

[Goldie295]

How to Progress ‘the Blues’

Lots of interesting comment here.

The first thing that needs to be acknowledged is that ‘Blues’ is the pop music of its day. I would recommend reading "Escaping the Delta: Robert Johnson and the Invention of the Blues" by historian Elijah Wald (LINK (http://www.amazon.com/Escaping-Delta-Robert-Johnson-Invention/dp/0060524278/ref=sr_1_1/103-1035794-7455015?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1194351968&sr=8-1)).

Secondly, it is a folk form that has evolved over time. Whether you believe it or not, this can be represented by the first form of instrument, which we believe to be a wire between two bricks, played with a slide (bottle, knife etc). Then similar songs are played on a more expressive and richer six string guitar. This then becomes amplified. Because it is amplified, more elaborate bands can get involved and you move from the quartet to big band scenario depending on what the locals liked to pay to watch and how many of them you could get in to the establishment to pay the promoter, the venue and the musicians.

As this ‘blues’ pop music evolved and the musicians became more proficient and the quality of the equipment they could buy improved ‘new’ forms were created: Country, Rock and Jazz (amongst countless others).

Fact : there is no such thing as an original idea (feel free to try to challenge me on this). However, there are new pathways which open up when you take two or more existing characteristics and put them together in a way that hasn’t been done before.

Example: You may think the Walkman was an original idea. However, it wasn’t. Home stereos already existed and the Walkman was simply a variation on these using existing technology. As per:

Home Stereo characteristics:

Large Speakers,
Large Size,
Plays and Records,
Large Output

Walkman characteristics:

Small speakers (headphones),
Small in size (like Dictaphones of the day),
Only plays (helped keep it small),
Lower output.

So here, the small playback dictaphone already existed (courtesy of Phillips) and headphones already existed. So by combining these and removing the recording feature to make changes to the existing Home Stereo characteristics a ‘new’ pathway is opened and the Sony Walkman is created (Phillips must have been kicking themselves, but they didn’t have the vision to do it using their Dictaphone technology).

Now I know some people will find this mildly irritating, but having attended a seminar on how to create ‘original’ thought, I can tell you this process is being used all the time by inventors (please don’t ask how I ended up at this seminar as it is not my sort of thing, glad I went though). They don’t try to think of something completely new/original as they know it is impossible. They simply try to move existing things on, by changing their characteristics and combining them with new characteristics (like making a hoover, but without a bag).

So, if you breakdown anything into the characteristics that form it and change some of those characteristics, you will open up a new pathway.

If you want to take the blues forward this is how you will have to do it.

So, if you start with some blues music of a particular era, say Muddy Waters, break down what he was doing and then change some of the characteristics, you might change the band to a big band, change the phrasing to swing time and jump around on the stage a little more than Muddy did and perhaps you arrive at more of a T-Bone thing. Indeed if you do the reverse you can get from T-Bone to Muddy.

If you want to take the blues forward, you need to break it down. The more characteristics you can introduce the easier it is to do it. You might start with:

Band consisting of guitar, harp, drums and bass,
Shuffle rhythms,
I,IV,V progressions,
Minor pent based melodies and solos,
Lyrics reflecting (supposedly) life in New Orleans in the early 20th Century.

This is only four steps – there are hundred others. Find them.

Then, change some of these steps to things that haven’t been done before - or put them into a new combination – and you are taking the music forward. It may not work as well as the original, but through trial and error you will take the music forward. Then maybe someone else will do the same thing to what you end up creating. And that is evolution (Blues to Rock to Metal, etc). Apple did the same thing when creating the iPod by using characteristics of the Walkman and adding digital technology and online music downloads (and this time Sony are kicking themselves).

Hope this makes sense and was worth posting.

Cheers,
Phil

[Swingblues]

Hey Guy, tks about your words! I really appreciate your atention...

Ryan I really like you guys so much...

My guitar's rig, is one lefty hand Dillion with a Lollar 50' winds, Pro Junior (I change de transformer) into a 2x12' (one weber ferromax and one 80' old fender speaker) and one Spring King Pedal (for road) or Fender Reverb Unit (in studio).

Sometimes I use a one Marshall Bluesbreaker (with a Kt66), blackface super reverb and Gibson GA-40.

Hey guys in this month I have my cd review in "Real Blues Magazine".
PS. I need learn more english...

All the best!
Igor Prado

[Strat-O]

My guitar's rig, is one lefty hand Dillion with a Lollar 50' winds, Pro Junior (I change de transformer) into a 2x12' (one weber ferromax and one 80' old fender speaker) and one Spring King Pedal (for road) or Fender Reverb Unit (in studio).

Sometimes I use a one Marshall Bluesbreaker (with a Kt66), blackface super reverb and Gibson GA-40.

All the best!
Igor Prado


Well that's a pretty cool guitar rig. How's the bridge pickup on those Lollar 50's P90's? I heard from someone that it was maybe a little bright. What do you think?

[Swingblues]

I don´t think what lollar is too much bright, for me is perfect, and I try many, brand new gibson, seymour d., and others...

Igor Prado

[RickyKing]

Hey Guy, tks about your words! I really appreciate your atention...

Ryan I really like you guys so much...

My guitar's rig, is one lefty hand Dillion with a Lollar 50' winds, Pro Junior (I change de transformer) into a 2x12' (one weber ferromax and one 80' old fender speaker) and one Spring King Pedal (for road) or Fender Reverb Unit (in studio).

Sometimes I use a one Marshall Bluesbreaker (with a Kt66), blackface super reverb and Gibson GA-40.

Hey guys in this month I have my cd review in "Real Blues Magazine".
PS. I need learn more english...

All the best!
Igor Prado

Oh,you're doing just fine,Bro...Just keep doing it!

[Strat-O]

The Gibson P90's just sound too modern to me. Not raw enough. Or at least that's how they sound in the two guitars that I have where they were the stock pickups. I've been using a set of Don Mare's P90 rewinds which sound killer. Very raw. I just sent a set of Gibson P90's to him to be rewound for this other guitar of mine, but I was thinking about getting some of Lollar's 50's P90's just to have something different. Good to know the Lollar bridge is cool. I'm short of cash right now, but I'll have to try a set of them.

English is good to know. I wish I knew more Spanish. You sing like a guy from the south with a huge, soulful voice. I wish I could sing like that!

[KBR]

Lollar and Don Mare make awesome Pickups.

Pickups are essential to good tone, Charlie Chavez, in my Band has a $200.
Samick 335 copy and it has Tom Holmes Humbuckers on it. I swear that
Guitar sounds incredible. It really is unreal how much it sounds like my old 60 335, that I had for a while, it may even be better.
My home made dogs (usually Strats or Tele's all sound super good because of good quality pups.)

[rhartt1234]

I just got a speaker cab in the mail.
The 1/4" has three prongs for the speaker wire quick connects. Which two should it go to? There's two on the outside and one on the inside.

[valcotone]

Ryan, Sounds like either a stereo or shorting jack... the one on the inside is the ground, and the one that is connected to the tip of your speaker cable plug is the hot end...

[sethr]

I wish I knew more Spanish.

Or Portuguese.

[rhartt1234]

Ryan, Sounds like either a stereo or shorting jack... the one on the inside is the ground, and the one that is connected to the tip of your speaker cable plug is the hot end...

I think I got it hooked up right thanks to my audiophile and electrical engineer co-workers. Science and Math teachers respectively.

[THINSOCKS]

Matt Stubbs wanted me to let all you New England folks know that John Nemeth will be playing 3 shows this weekend in New England. John is bringing Chris "Kid" Andersen along with him this time around and you don't want to miss it. Oh, and Matt will be playing too. Should be 3 great shows. Here's the dates.

SHOWS
Fri Nov 9 Chans, Woonsocket RI
Sat Nov 10 Harrys, Hyannis, MA
Sun Nov 11 Horsefeathers, North Conway, NH

[mikelaw]

isnt matt stubbs playing bass?

[RickyKing]

SiSi

[dial-tone]

Here is the Band lineup for the upcoming new england/east coast John Nemeth Shows.

John Nemeth-Vocal/Harp
Matthew Stubbs- Bass & Guitar
Kid Andersen-Guitar
Chris Rivelli-Drums...

This is John Nemeths first tour in New England so if you guys are off try to come out and catch him..!!

Thanks

[GOLDENSTRAT]

Just heard the Insomniacs cd today, great stuff. If anyone can , see John Nemeth and band, it should be awesome with Matt AND Kid. fred

[KBR]

Kid Anderson is an unbelievable Guitarist, tell him Hi from me.
John is a hell of a Singer and good Harp Player, a heck of a show!

[Goldie295]

Does anyone know what backline gear Rusty Zinn is using these days?

Also, if different, what was he using during the Confessing and Sitting Around Waiting sessions?

Cheers,
Phil

[saggybottom]

Rusty Zinn use to play a Victoria 1X15 pro and a gibson es-335 w/ buckers. I know he still plays the 335, don't know about the amp though.

[S.W.Erdnase]

I thought he was a 345 man...

[fretshop]

(Quote - Ryan Hartt:
I can also think of people like Rusty Zinn, Teddy Morgan and Susan Tedeschi that were doing something different with their traditional Blues backgrounds and then took it far enough that I wouldn't call it Blues. I'm not saying it's bad just something else.

Dee Dee Bridgewater : Check out her latest release "Red Earth"

[TwoFeets]

On an aside, we're playing a backline-provided thing this Saturday, the local IBC challenge. These are the backline amps available. What would you choose?

Guitar/Harp Amps:

Tweed Fender Blues Deluxe w/ 1-12” Eminence

Peavey Delta w/2 -10” Blue Marvel

Fender Blues Jr w/ 12” Jensen

Fender Twin Reverb Reissue Custom w/ 15" speaker


The Twin is obviously out. The Delta Blues is sort of an unknown quantity to me but not ruled out entirely. I've owned a Blues Deluxe but didn't end up liking it too much, and I've played through Blues Jr's before.

Since I can't have my own amp, I do plan on bringing my '64 reverb unit. I can't stand the built-in verb on any of the provided amps.

I'm leaning towards the Blues Jr but they tend to get kind of mushy. The Blues Deluxe will have more headroom but maybe a bit too much. How do the tweed Blues Deluxes sound on the gain channel at a low drive setting?

[Dave Orban]

Just lost a decent recurrent gig to a karaoke "band" that consists of two laptops with backing tracks, two guitarists who do not much of anything but sing occasional background vocals, and a fat, Buddy Holly-ish cartoon of a front man. :mad:

[fretshop]

On an aside, we're playing a backline-provided thing this Saturday, the local IBC challenge. These are the backline amps available. What would you choose?

Guitar/Harp Amps:

Tweed Fender Blues Deluxe w/ 1-12” Eminence

Peavey Delta w/2 -10” Blue Marvel

Fender Blues Jr w/ 12” Jensen

Fender Twin Reverb Reissue Custom w/ 15" speaker




The Twin is obviously out. The Delta Blues is sort of an unknown quantity to me but not ruled out entirely. I've owned a Blues Deluxe but didn't end up liking it too much, and I've played through Blues Jr's before.

Since I can't have my own amp, I do plan on bringing my '64 reverb unit. I can't stand the built-in verb on any of the provided amps.

I'm leaning towards the Blues Jr but they tend to get kind of mushy. The Blues Deluxe will have more headroom but maybe a bit too much. How do the tweed Blues Deluxes sound on the gain channel at a low drive setting?

Dos Pedulos, Use the Blues Deluxe...read below and call me ASAP

I have a dagram for a simple outboard master volume box you can build in 30 minutes....a plastic Radio Shack project box, two 1 foot Male/Male effects cords, 2 switchcraft 1/4" output jacks, some wire, and a 250K audio taper pot....Buy an OEM 250K Fender AudioGuitar pot at Guitar Center.
The effects wires plug into the output jacks on the box, then into the effects in and out of the Blues Deluxe. Turn on the boost channel and get the overdrive you want, then attenuate it with the magic box.

Call me on my Cell phone and give me your fax # so I can send you the diagram. The whole thing will cost you less than $15.00, and can be used with most amps that have an effects loop in and out. Todd Sharp and I both use the Tweed Blues Deluxe, and we both use the little box.

[zappafrank]

TwoFeets:---Pedal time---I recommend a COT50 turned way low, or a Ghetto Stomp-type pedal---

Either the peavey or tweed (LOL)---although even a Twin w/ the right settings and pedal could work

crap---modern production amps---but Holmstrom seems to suffer thru ok!

ac

edit---or follow fret's advice!!!!

[Dave Orban]

I'd take the Twin and a Zen Drive (or maybe even a Hotcake), dialed in for a little grit

But that's just me. ;)

[Goldie295]

Feets,

If you do take the twin it would be good for headroom reasons (and because of the 1x15 speaker).

With Twins, if you go into input 1, turn the bright switch on, take off all the treble, turn up all the mid and set the bass to taste around 3 they do sound and feel more tweed like. Add a stomp box and Bob's your uncle.

I have to use a twin at a jam I go to. I always hated it - too much treble. One day an old pro of 20 years turns up and got a great sound. I asked him how and he told me these settings. What a revelation.

Why not go to a local shop and try it out - they all have twins (and the the other amps for that matter).

Hope that helps.

Cheers
Phil

[Goldie295]

Rusty Zinn use to play a Victoria 1X15 pro and a gibson es-335 w/ buckers. I know he still plays the 335, don't know about the amp though.

Thanks SB.
Cheers,
Phil

[KBR]

Those amps choices look rough, all Dogs. I guess I would use the 1x12 Blues Deluxe and play clean, roll off the highs on the Bridge pup to say 2 and it should get close to a tweed distort O Tone, is that what you want?
The PV and the Blues Jr no way, Maybe try the Twin and try those settings?
I hate brite switches on.

Last time I saw Rusty, I sat in and he handed me a White 3 pup SG and he had a Blackface Super Rev. Last pix I saw he had a Red Epi Riviera.

[TwoFeets]

Dos Pedulos, Use the Blues Deluxe...read below and call me ASAP

I have a dagram for a simple outboard master volume box you can build in 30 minutes....a plastic Radio Shack project box, two 1 foot Male/Male effects cords, 2 switchcraft 1/4" output jacks, some wire, and a 250K audio taper pot....Buy an OEM 250K Fender AudioGuitar pot at Guitar Center.
The effects wires plug into the output jacks on the box, then into the effects in and out of the Blues Deluxe. Turn on the boost channel and get the overdrive you want, then attenuate it with the magic box.

Call me on my Cell phone and give me your fax # so I can send you the diagram. The whole thing will cost you less than $15.00, and can be used with most amps that have an effects loop in and out. Todd Sharp and I both use the Tweed Blues Deluxe, and we both use the little box.

Man, I can't find your cell #, I think I only have your work phone #... toss me a PM or give me a call at my desk or on my cell if you get a chance. I can call you right back.

[stevieboy]

John Marx has a Peavey Delta Blues with 1 15 that I've heard him play a few times. Sounds pretty good when he plays it, anyway! He uses an outboard reverb, which is also I believe a no longer made Peavey.

He also has a Classic 50 with a 15 that he uses at jams he hosts. Hundreds of guys have played through that one!

[Dave Orban]

John Marx has a Peavey Delta Blues with 1 15 that I've heard him play a few times. Sounds pretty good when he plays it, anyway! He uses an outboard reverb, which is also I believe a no longer made Peavey.

He also has a Classic 50 with a 15 that he uses at jams he hosts. Um... he'd sound pretty damned good, no matter WHAT he was playing though... LOL!

[Echo Are]

He uses an outboard reverb, which is also I believe a no longer made Peavey.

Just curious, does he have one of these guys, a PV Valverb? They're highly sought after, made in the early-'90s originally. It's supposed to be a really great-sounding unit. Reverb and tremolo. Uses I think three 12AX7s.
http://inlinethumb51.webshots.com/28786/2408472990075617209S500x500Q85.jpg

[Poppa Stoppa]

On an aside, we're playing a backline-provided thing this Saturday, the local IBC challenge. These are the backline amps available. What would you choose?

Guitar/Harp Amps:

Tweed Fender Blues Deluxe w/ 1-12” Eminence

Peavey Delta w/2 -10” Blue Marvel

Fender Blues Jr w/ 12” Jensen

Fender Twin Reverb Reissue Custom w/ 15" speaker
Go with the Blues Deluxe. Guy with your ability will get a great tone out of it.

Second choice = Blues Junior.

I know guys that sound incredible using each of those and so will you!

[Poppa Stoppa]

Just curious, does he have one of these guys, a PV Valverb? They're highly sought after, made in the early-'90s originally. It's supposed to be a really great-sounding unit. Reverb and tremolo. Uses I think three 12AX7s.
http://inlinethumb51.webshots.com/28786/2408472990075617209S500x500Q85.jpgI used to have one of them. It sounded pretty good but didn't add any undefinable magic that a decent fender amp with reverb and trem doesn't have so I sold it and have never missed it.

[stevieboy]

Just curious, does he have one of these guys, a PV Valverb? They're highly sought after, made in the early-'90s originally. It's supposed to be a really great-sounding unit. Reverb and tremolo. Uses I think three 12AX7s.
http://inlinethumb51.webshots.com/28786/2408472990075617209S500x500Q85.jpg

I'm pretty sure that's the one, though not 100%.

[mikelaw]

troy gonyea has and still uses his peavey delta blues 2-10. check youtube i took a clip of him playing with sugar ray with that amp.

[KBR]

Troy and The Band sound Great.

[hasserl]

Out of those amp choices I'd go with the Peavey. I'd take just about anything to avoid the Blues Deluxe. The Blues Jr is not a bad amp, a little boxy sounding, but not too bad. You'll need a pedal for your OD. At least the Peavey will provide decent breakup tones all on it's own. And the 2 10's will stay tight and provide a broader spread of volume than the BJ, which is unfortunately saddled with a too small cab.

The Twin would be my second choice, but bring a pedal for any OD tones.

Just go with the Peavey and plug straight in, you'll be fine.

[mikelaw]

robby check out the ghetto stomp here.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NUCW3vyasKE

[Strat-O]

The clip sounds pretty cool Mike.

[Strat-O]

If you're mic'd the Blues Jr would be the easiest to control without external devices, imho. Just one channel and not too many knobs. Otherwise and o/d pedal and the Twin will give you SRV tone all night long baby!

[Autopilot Slim]

You could always daisy chain the Peavey w/ the Blues Jr.

[bluesjuke]

Just lost a decent recurrent gig to a karaoke "band" that consists of two laptops with backing tracks, two guitarists who do not much of anything but sing occasional background vocals, and a fat, Buddy Holly-ish cartoon of a front man. :mad:



Sorry to hear this Dave.
Just another example of the whole world gone crazy.

[jimfog]

robby check out the ghetto stomp here.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NUCW3vyasKE

Mike,

That sounds good.........thanks for posting.

I have to say, though......it doesn't REALLY do that tweed-y overdriven fart tone thing. Your clip, like the one I had, shows the Ghetto kinda sounds like a lot of OD's. Not bad, but kind of pedal-y and flat.

Again, not a cut on you.........I'm just surprised that so many guys doing this music have jumped on this pedal. I don't hear it.

cheers,

jim

[mikelaw]

u aint kiddin jim a pedal is a pedal and everything has its place, but i love this ghetto stomp though. really fat sounding and really nails the fart/fuzz tones of those old classic blues records.

i mean jeez, im not saying its magic in a box...a pedal is still a pedal, but this one is pretty cool sounding. nothing beats the real thing though. cranked amp!

[saggybottom]

Rick Holmstrom said it was "close" to the real thing(supro/5e3) and he uses it on fly in gigs with his vibutron and sib echodrive. The key word being "close". The sib variadrive with a low output tube gets "close" too, but nothing will replace a guitar into a cranked amp.

[mikelaw]

yoyo, anyone have a pdf or copy of the jimbo mathus story from the tonequest report??

[blueskalle]

When I saw Nemeth and Junior Watson in Copenhagen two weeks ago, Junior seemed to use a Blues Deluxe with his Stratotone and a couple of pedals. Absolutely nothing wrong with his sound that night...:BEER

[AndreasA]

blueskalle, I was also at the Nemeth/Watson concert at MOJO. What a performance. One of the best I have experienced the last years on MOJO blues bar. Unfortunately I missed the first set.

[jumpnblues]

Jim,

My first impression was the same as yours. I thought it sounded kind of flat and generic. But I listened a couple more times and reread Mike's comment and I understand what he's saying now. The old amps at breakup did sound kind of farty and flat at times and that pedal does a decent job of capturing that. It's not meant to sound pretty or make your tone "sweet". I've heard that tone on numerous Junior and Rick recordings. That's my impression anyway (FWIW).

Tom

[mikelaw]

tonequest i ordered back issue of jimbo in pdf form that they email you for 15 friggin dollars....havent heard from them yet and i paid them already and everything. no response to emails or anything. you would think $80 subscription and $15 back issues would=good service.

guess not.

[valcotone]

Don't worry Mike... I ordered a previous issue with some Valco stuff in it and they sent the PDF with in a day or two... $15 is steep for emailing a PDF though, IMO, but it's the content you're paying for anyway.

[blueskalle]

AndreasA: It was really a great concert. I was floored by the drummer Wes Star to, who was playing really great. You could see on his facial expression that he felt good too.:)

[nc slim]

One of my most memorable nights was when my Harp player Eddie and Bill Jones (bass player)played a whole set w Wes Starr. It was late in Sam's illness and he was having throat troubles. Anson let us play a set at a club w Wes and John Street to let Sam rest and also let us audition for the club owner. Playin w those guys was a slice of heaven Wes would follow you wherever we took it. Also he is a great guy and friend.

[Scott Miller]

Saturday Nov. 10, 12-2 PST, Steve Freund is going to be a guest on Tom Mazzolini's blues show on KPFA. You can listen on the Web.

Come to think of it, that show is always very good.

[jumpnblues]

nc

I've had the honor of sitting in with Anson and the Rockets 3 times and Wes is a bona fide "mutha". Great guy too.

Tom

[zappafrank]

Guys---I gotta brag, sorry!!!!---

The CD that I'm on 5 cuts or so (Jimi Bott's "BOTT and PAID FOR") just got upgraded on the Real Blues Top 100---from #5 (since it's release last november)---to #2!!!and take a look at who else's CD is at #2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

click on link---then click on 'TOP 100 New CD's', then scroll down just a wee bit----

http://www.realbluesmagazine.com/index2.htm

I can't f'n believe this----Thank you Jimi Bott!!!!

Now---if I could just figure out how to get another gig....

---and you bet I'm going to start a new thread on this---

ac

(gross self-promotion and self-agrandizing now over---please return to my usual self-deprecating manner)

[jumpnblues]

zappafrank,

Congrats man. That is too cool. I love to see my G.P. brothers do well. We really have some killer players on this forum.

Tom

[jumpnblues]

Hey Guys,

Know anyone that might be interested in a Victoria 35115T Tweed Pro with Weber 15A150 (P15N)? I just got a killer Louis Electric amp (a 10/12) and now I'm jonesing for one of Lou's new Trembleluxes, for a low powered alternative. If I want to get one, something has to go and I'm undecided whether I want to let the Vicky Pro be the one. They list for $2595. new. This one's mint and has a Tuki cover. Does $1700-$1800. sound fair? I haven't listed it in the emporium yet because I'm still undecided about selling it. It's been my favorite amp for the last 4-5 years...at least until the Louis came along. I guess I'm just "feeling out the market". I don't know if anyone else feels this way but I hate selling stuff. I hate the hassle of it and maybe that's why I'm so hesitant. But if I want to order another Louis I have to sell something. Anyway, I'd appreciate any responses to my questions.


Tom

[bluesjuke]

A bigs Congrats!!! on that

[bluesjuke]

jumpnblues, I know what you mean, I've been hesitant because of the hassle in the past but it always turned out to be easier to deal with than perceived.

But....a Vicky Pro would be pretty hard for me to let go off too.

[Poppa Stoppa]

Congrats AC!

[KBR]

Good goin AC

Not Many Gigs in Portland, however.
JumpNBlues, (Tom) I would like a Vicky Pro, but just got another Allen Amp, went with the Accomplice w/ 40 Watt Trannies. 1x12 twice the power of a Deluxe Rev, no cap job needed.

also,

You can hear me on the 2nd song on the new Stevie Ray Vaughan cd, We used my 69 Super Reverb and I had a 64 Strat, Stevie used his #1 Strat.
He pointed out that one of the 10's was not working, so we were going 3x10's in a SR, not a bad sound.

['56 Merc]

A good friend of mine has a '64 Super Reverb that had a bad speaker so he just took the wire off and has been using it 3x10 for the last six years and it sounds great.

[jumpnblues]

"[JumpNBlues, (Tom) I would like a Vicky Pro, but just got another Allen Amp, went with the Accomplice w/ 40 Watt Trannies. 1x12 twice the power of a Deluxe Rev, no cap job needed.]"


Yeah, Kenny, you will never go wrong with an Allen. Fabulous amps. I still love my 40 watt Encore. I have an Epiphone '56 Les Paul Goldtop with Lollar P-90s (and all new electronics) that just sounds so sweet through that amp. Does the clean sustain thing perfectly. Very smooth sounding, almost Dumble-like in a really good way.
But I keep going back and forth on selling the Vicky Pro. It just sounds sooooo good. But I really want to order a Louis Tremblelux. I need a lower powered amp for small venues, my studio, and recording but still want big tone. Lou Rosano played part of a phone message from Duke about the new Tremblelux he tried out. He said it was the best amp he ever played through and just gushed about it. And if you know anything about Duke, he's not easily impressed with boutique amps. I may end up keeping the Pro and saving up for the Tremblelux. The Pro just gives me another range of superb tones to choose from for recording. It will take awhile to save for the Tremblelux though. Sounds like it is going to go for around $2100.

Tom

[Echo Are]

A good friend of mine has a '64 Super Reverb that had a bad speaker so he just took the wire off and has been using it 3x10 for the last six years and it sounds great.

It's probably not enough of an ohmage mismatch to hurt the output transformer at all. The load with 3 speakers wired up would be, what, 4 ohms instead of 2 I'm guessing?

[Strat-O]

It's not meant to sound pretty or make your tone "sweet". I've heard that tone on numerous Junior and Rick recordings. That's my impression anyway (FWIW).

Tom


This was my first impression...its supposed to sound lo-fi. Right?

[valcotone]

It's probably not enough of an ohmage mismatch to hurt the output transformer at all. The load with 3 speakers wired up would be, what, 4 ohms instead of 2 I'm guessing?


Three 8 ohm speakers in parallel is just under 2.7 ohms. 2 in parallel is exactly 4 ohms.

[jumpnblues]

"[This was my first impression...its supposed to sound lo-fi. Right?]"


Yeah, Strat-O, that's my take on it.

Tom

[zappafrank]

BTW--Our own Igor Prado is ALSO on that list---I gotta get that CD, Igor---and of course, Monster Mike w/ Sugar Ray

KBR---can't wait to hear this new SRV/KBR collaboration---very very cool, mang!

Thanks all for the congrats---I've always been one to second guess and have lots of inner self doubts about my playing abilities (and I have WAY more to learn before real 'confidence' is established---maybe never, who knows), but this is blowing my mind---just to be in that echelon for even a minute is something I never even dreamed---just surreal to be a part of it---

ac

[KBR]

I am only on one song Bro,
SRV is on all of em.

How is PDX? any new clubs?

[TwoFeets]

Anyone from here going to the IBC this year?

We won our local competition tonight and will be representing the Orange Blossom Blues Society (Central FL) in Memphis this January/Feb. Would love to catch up with some of you cats there.

[zappafrank]

YEAH for TwoFeets!!!!!!

Will keep fingers crossed on BOTH things we talked about---

Congrats!

ac

[mikelaw]

congrats rob, you deserve it man! xoxo

[Strat-O]

Tommy Brown won here...he's going to Memphis.

[Strat-O]

Well, whaddya know. Nick Curran's touring the USA with Deguello.

[dukeh62]

Anyone from here going to the IBC this year?

We won our local competition tonight and will be representing the Orange Blossom Blues Society (Central FL) in Memphis this January/Feb. Would love to catch up with some of you cats there.

Congrats Rob!!! You're in for an amazing time! Hit me up and I'll tell you all about it. Make your hotel reservations now!!!

e

[bluesjuke]

Congrats TwoFeets!

[jumpnblues]

Congrats TwoFeets...give 'em hell.

Tom

[mikelaw]

Well, whaddya know. Nick Curran's touring the USA with Deguello.

si' i think ronnie james is on that as well as damien llanes.

its like the nightlifes -preston +ronnie james +2nd guitarist +wattage +rock

[Short Bus]

Way to go Feets! Knock 'em dead!

[Goldie295]

Top job Feets. And congrats also AC.

KBR, will check out your track on the new SRV album.

Wow - can't believe the company I'm keeping !

Feets, which amp did you go for in the end?

Cheers
Phil

[TwoFeets]

Top job Feets. And congrats also AC.

KBR, will check out your track on the new SRV album.

Wow - can't believe the company I'm keeping !

Feets, which amp did you go for in the end?

Cheers
Phil

Thanks everyone! I was shocked that we won. We were up against some heavy competition - Beautiful Bobby Blackmon, Survival Joe Caruso, Shaun Rounds, Bird Dog Bobby - all local heavy hitters.

I used the Blues Deluxe. Didn't have the time to build up George's volume box but I got plenty of breakup in the Normal channel, sticking the '64 reverb in front of it. I dialed the amp reverb off, obviously... buried the mids, backed off the bass, goosed the treble and presence. Close enough for a 20 minute set! Didn't sound too bad at all, although it was prone to feedback.

[safecracker]

Anyone from here going to the IBC this year?

We won our local competition tonight and will be representing the Orange Blossom Blues Society (Central FL) in Memphis this January/Feb. Would love to catch up with some of you cats there.
TwoFeets..Congrats on winning. I'll be at the IBC. Last year was first trip. Just went,no competing. Took my wife and her friend. I got to jam w/ Eric and Ryan at the afterhours jam at Blues City Cafe. I'll never miss that trip again. I only live about 4 1/2 hours away. I'll look up your band on the schedule (Smokin Torpedos or Midnight Ramblers) and check ya'll out. You'll love Memphis in case you have'nt been before. I had the time of my life. Like I said,I did'nt compete,but got to play at two after hours jams.The other place was Mr.Handy's Blues Hall next to Rum Boogie. The players at the jams were all excellent. It jaded me so bad playing with "real players" so much that I could'nt go to a blues jam around here in b'ham for a year. It was that great. Shawn

[bbarnard]

PSA (not my item), but an Uncle Spot Reverb tank at a good price on the Gear Page.

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=312161

[fretshop]

tonequest i ordered back issue of jimbo in pdf form that they email you for 15 friggin dollars....havent heard from them yet and i paid them already and everything. no response to emails or anything. you would think $80 subscription and $15 back issues would=good service.

guess not.

Live and learn.

[fretshop]

One of my most memorable nights was when my Harp player Eddie and Bill Jones (bass player)played a whole set w Wes Starr. It was late in Sam's illness and he was having throat troubles. Anson let us play a set at a club w Wes and John Street to let Sam rest and also let us audition for the club owner. Playin w those guys was a slice of heaven Wes would follow you wherever we took it. Also he is a great guy and friend.

Hey NC...remember the October '04 benefit in Brevard ? Twice, when I went to take a solo, Sam snuck behind me, grabbed my guitar strap, and Wes and Bill changed the tempo. I took some serious heat from Bill, Gloria and Wes later. I got a call from Wes after he returned from the Watson tour in England, but haven't spoken to him since.

[safecracker]

I got to see Wes Starr w/ John Nemeth a few months back and was extremely impressed with his playing. I've got him on a couple cd's w/ Anson and w/ Hash Brown and John Moeller. Wes Starr,Richard Innes,Stephen Hodges,and Jimi Bott really do a fantastic job IMHO. Shawn

[jumpnblues]

"[PSA (not my item), but an Uncle Spot Reverb tank at a good price on the Gear Page.]"


Oh sure...just as I'm about to take delivery of a new tweed Uncle Spot unit you tell me this!! :jo ;)

Tom

[safecracker]

"[PSA (not my item), but an Uncle Spot Reverb tank at a good price on the Gear Page.]"


Oh sure...just as I'm about to take delivery of a new tweed Uncle Spot unit you tell me this!! :jo ;)

Tom
I'm in the same boat as you. I was wondering if you got your Spot yet. Shawn

[Strat-O]

Man, I'm surprised nobody caught the "Tommy Brown" name drop. Hope you do well in Memphis 2f's. Whatever happened with the House of Blues house band thing?

[rhartt1234]

Man, I'm surprised nobody caught the "Tommy Brown" name drop.

Since I didn't expect him to be alive, or at the very least still active, I didn't realize it was THAT Tommy Brown.

[KBR]

I just got a new 40 Watt Accomplice 1x12 Allen Amp on order when one popped up for $400 less on TGP...oh well Mine will be new, and unlike a pcb new Amp, this mutha will last Papi.

Like a Deluxe Reverb on steriods? bigger Trannies. Better speaker.
for little/medium Gigs.
I still swear by the Brown Sugar head and 2 Weber P12N's.

[TwoFeets]

Man, I'm surprised nobody caught the "Tommy Brown" name drop. Hope you do well in Memphis 2f's. Whatever happened with the House of Blues house band thing?


Thanks man.

The BB's house band auditions were a trainwreck. They sent out a list of 20 or so tunes, largely soul and that sort of thing, from which you were to pick out 3 tunes and let them know which tunes you wanted to do; yet when you got to the audition, you were thrown into a room with 4 or 5 other fellow candidates, all of whom had been asked to do the same thing. The chances of you all having chosen the same 3 tunes were obviously nil, and you only had time in the room to do 3 songs. The keys player called a tune to warm up with, a blues in G which was supposedly Muddy but sounded nothing like any Muddy tune I'd ever heard, the sax player called Midnight Hour (which ended up being the only song off their List we even did), then the pre-hired Frontman whom they were bringing in from the Memphis BB King's called some other random tune. It was like the worst blues jam you've only been to, only worse than that. I can't imagine how anybody could have gotten a gig if that's how they ran all the auditions.

Then, after the fact, nothing - crickets chirping. At least two dozen local guys I know, various instruments, auditioned, and nobody got any feedback. Finally, weeks later, the guy running the auditions sends a lame bulk email out lamenting how "oh, my hard drive crashed and sorry we didn't get back to you sooner but we lost all your addresses" (it's amazing how that excuse proliferates when people slack off, even though in real life it's far rarer than they might have you think). "We've pretty much narrowed down who we want for the house band but we're still hiring subs and other acts and we'll get back to you within the next week or two." And then, nothing. Crickets chirping again. Really poorly done.

That's not sour grapes, BTW. I didn't think I really had a snowball's chance in hell at getting the gig. I just figured something at that level would have been handled a little more professionally, especially by people that had a good reputation.

[valcotone]

'Feets... sorry to hear about the audition. Sounds like a corporate-sized f*ck up!


Anyone know who's playing guitar (in addition to Charles) on Mark Hummel's Harp extravaganza this month? They are playing nearby at the end of November and I might go see the show.

[fretshop]

Nick Adams and I finally got a chance to sit down, have some dinner (thanks Nick for your generosity and thoughtfulness toward my sister Ree and me, and talk amps and axes at Cobblestone's Steak House In Lowell, Mass this past weekend. I tagged along to the Racky Thomas gig at Chicken Bones in Framingham, and was treated to a stellar performance by the band, although I had to hang out in the club foyer, because the place was packed to the walls with Racky fans. (I have GOT to meet up with that blonde babe again....!!!) I fell in love all over again with Nick's Clark Tyger. I got to hear "Nicky A." add some nice versatility to the mix with his Tokai Strat, L.P. Junior, and Holmstrom Tele, (did I miss any axes?)while maintaining the rhythm, fills, and guitar solos behind Racky's pleasing voice and raucous harmonica work. The quartet was really on that night. The only low point of the evening for me was when a comely young lady asked me if I was Racky's father. Never mind !!!

Thanks Nick for letting me sit in and test my new bridge pup !!!

[Strat-O]

Since I didn't expect him to be alive, or at the very least still active, I didn't realize it was THAT Tommy Brown.

He looks and acts like he's 30!

[jumpnblues]

Shawn,

I talked to Ron Veil Monday and he thought the Uncle Spot tank would go out later this week. I feel so bad for Ron though. The situation with his mom is really weighing on his mind. You can tell when you talk to him. Ron and his mom really need our prayers. Sounds like her chemo is not going well at all. Ron just seems like such a good guy and he tries to maintain a "show must go on" attitude. But it's really gotta' be tough for him. Man, what a crappy hand?!! God Bless ya' Ron. God Bless ya'.

Tom

[jumpnblues]

Kenny,

You lucky dog you! I'm bettin' that Allen Accomplice will KILL!! Let me know what ya' think of it. I've been giving serious thought to building an Accomplice kit...maybe after I save enough for a Louis Electric Tremblelux. Man, I wish I had a rich uncle. :bkw :cool: :cool:

Tom

[HappyValley]

Nick Adams and I finally got a chance to sit down, have some dinner (thanks Nick for your generosity and thoughtfulness toward my sister Ree and me, and talk amps and axes at Cobblestone's Steak House In Lowell, Mass this past weekend. I tagged along to the Racky Thomas gig at Chicken Bones in Framingham, and was treated to a stellar performance by the band, although I had to hang out in the club foyer, because the place was packed to the walls with Racky fans. (I have GOT to meet up with that blonde babe again....!!!) I fell in love all over again with Nick's Clark Tyger. I got to hear "Nicky A." add some nice versatility to the mix with his Tokai Strat, L.P. Junior, and Holmstrom Tele, (did I miss any axes?)while maintaining the rhythm, fills, and guitar solos behind Racky's pleasing voice and raucous harmonica work. The quartet was really on that night. The only low point of the evening for me was when a comely young lady asked me if I was Racky's father. Never mind !!!

Thanks Nick for letting me sit in and test my new bridge pup !!!
Had a blast George- you (& that tele!) sounded fabulous.....
quote of the weekend: " Hey Buddy- where's the sh**thouse?" LOL

[fretshop]

Had a blast George- you (& that tele!) sounded fabulous.....
quote of the weekend: " Hey Buddy- where's the sh**thouse?" LOL

Nick,
I almost spilt my morning coffee when I first read your post....that poor young fellow in the convenience store, He's probably in deep therapy by now.

Second quote of the weekend: "So, Nick, you play blues too? I hate blues....Geez, let's see...your woman left, you lost your job....Christ....get over it already !!"

Third quote(Monday AM) : " Does Nick think I'm a Jerk ?"

We may be back this weekend to help my sister with the house. Can't wait to play my new Kim Wilson CD.....LOUD while cleaning and moving furniture. I'll show her !!

[Strat-O]

I see how it is, hanging all the time with your NE boys. Rolling with the yanks. Haven't been to the south in what? Two years? That's okay, me, NC, and 2f's can just eat our BBQ and collards without ya's!

:)

[TwoFeets]

I see how it is, hanging all the time with your NE boys. Rolling with the yanks. Haven't been to the south in what? Two years? That's okay, me, NC, and 2f's can just eat our BBQ and collards without ya's!

:)

LOL I may live here but you know how it goes, you can take the Yank out of New England but you can't get the New England out of the Yank. I'm still trying to find a decent chowder house or loaf of Italian bread.

[fretshop]

I see how it is, hanging all the time with your NE boys. Rolling with the yanks. Haven't been to the south in what? Two years? That's okay, me, NC, and 2f's can just eat our BBQ and collards without ya's!

:)

It's hopefully in the works for after the holidays. The air fares and the Hotel rates in Decatur have become insane...have been for months.

I haven't forgotten about "Strat-O's Place" ... absolutely the finest ribs, the coldest beer, and the sweetest bourbon in the south. The music weren't too bad neither. Maybe I can get Nick to come along, next trip.

[fretshop]

LOL I may live here but you know how it goes, you can take the Yank out of New England but you can't get the New England out of the Yank. I'm still trying to find a decent chowder house or loaf of Italian bread.

But....have you ever tasted Strat-O-'s ribs ? Personally, I think Chris needs to chase Fat Matt and Maddy outa town and open his own place.

[nc slim]

Fretshop It took you this long to get the message from us our ploy worked well.

Strat-o: Open a blues rib place and we can all book ourselves there, best ribs in Hotlanta.

[KBR]

Here's Fats w/ The Blasters, Maybe Lee Allen on Sax?

dig it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbhhz6KRAGM

[fretshop]

Fretshop It took you this long to get the message from us our ploy worked well.

Strat-o: Open a blues rib place and we can all book ourselves there, best ribs in Hotlanta.

I'd have made more trips down your way, but like I mentioned before, the air fares have just about doubled, and the Holiday Inn conference center has already doubled it's prices, and cut down on the amenities and comforts.
It's a cryin' shame, because I really love Decatur and Atlanta, and have a great time hangin', eatin' and jammin' with y'all.

[Dave Orban]

Had a blast George- you (& that tele!) sounded fabulous.....
George is quite the player, ain't he...! :dude

['56 Merc]

Yes that's Lee Allen. Thanks! KBR

[straightblues]

PSA (not my item), but an Uncle Spot Reverb tank at a good price on the Gear Page.

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=312161

Thanks for the heads up. I snagged this unit. I hope it is as good as the reviews. I have had a resissue tank with the mods but I have never really bonded with it. At $415 I figure I can't go wrong with the Uncle Spot.

What setting are you guys using with your reverb tanks?

[fretshop]

George is quite the player, ain't he...! :dude

Comin' back at ya with that one....

You are one of the most melodic and toneful guitarists I have played with...Geez it's been over a year since we jammed in South Amboy. You really held the Harman backline
together during the three Philly Regional shows this past August.

We should organize a get together in the Philly area with you and your bunch, me, Jim Fogarty and his crew, Deb Callahan etc. Maybe I could get Lou to get out of the shop and bring a couple amps.

Did I tell you that I met Jim and his singer, Melissa at the Duke Show three weeks ago ? We missed you that evening.

[Goldie295]

What setting are you guys using with your reverb tanks?


I have the Dwell and Tone on full with the Mix at around 9 / 9.30.
Cheers
Phil

[bbarnard]

LOL I may live here but you know how it goes, you can take the Yank out of New England but you can't get the New England out of the Yank. I'm still trying to find a decent chowder house or loaf of Italian bread.

Yeah well I'm still waiting to find a good NC style BBQ down here anywhere in FL. All they got is that stuff with all this sauce slathered on it and no cole slaw on the sandwiches. Give me that vinegar based stuff anytime.:rolleyes:

[jimfog]

Here's Fats w/ The Blasters, Maybe Lee Allen on Sax?

dig it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbhhz6KRAGM

Kenny.....Thanks!

MUCH, much better than the Fats/Blasters Farm Aid debacle....

.....but still, odd to hear Fats make a few glaring mistakes, whereas on the tapes I have of club shows, he's practically flawless.

I wonder if he suffered from bad nerves on these big, televised gigs.

Anyway......god bless Youtube for getting this stuff out there.

- Jim

PS....and you had to post that on the day I'm probably selling my 335....you bastard!

[blueskalle]

Hey KBR!
I sure did dig it!!!!!!

[Poppa Stoppa]

Here's Fats w/ The Blasters, Maybe Lee Allen on Sax?

dig it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbhhz6KRAGM
Nice one! I believe the guy that put it up, 'Bluesintruder', is a German fellow that posted here a time or two a while back.

[KBR]

Jim Fog,
Fats could do that on a cigar box a neck and 1 pup...

He may have been over amped, (if you know what I mean)
Fats is one of my faves, and I was glad to meet the Cat, and try out his 345/59 BM and Tank.
The dude was awesome and had Killer Tone, a shame he went out so early like Magic Sam @ 32 years of age.

ps
anyone have a 6 lb SG for sale?
I have 2 Lollar Zebra's waitin for a new Home.
Just put one of my Tele's up fo sale.

[nc slim]

Yeah well I'm still waiting to find a good NC style BBQ down here anywhere in FL. All they got is that stuff with all this sauce slathered on it and no cole slaw on the sandwiches. Give me that vinegar based stuff anytime.:rolleyes:



I Feel your pain I am from WPB FL and relocated to N C 9 years ago. My Harp Player lives in Lexington the home of lexington(vinegar based) BBQ so we are in heaven here

[fretshop]

Dave Orban, Jiim Fogarty

I just spoke to Pete Kanaras....how about a get together in the Philly area after the holidays ? Pete and I are both up for it.

[Dave Orban]

Dave Orban, Jiim Fogarty

I just spoke to Pete Kanaras....how about a get together in the Philly area after the holidays ? Pete and I are both up for it.
Would love to!

[Dave Orban]

Kenny.....Thanks!

MUCH, much better than the Fats/Blasters Farm Aid debacle....

.....but still, odd to hear Fats make a few glaring mistakes, whereas on the tapes I have of club shows, he's practically flawless.

I wonder if he suffered from bad nerves on these big, televised gigs.

Anyway......god bless Youtube for getting this stuff out there.

- Jim

PS....and you had to post that on the day I'm probably selling my 335....you bastard!WHY on earth would you want to sell a 335, Jim...?!? :confused:

[jimfog]

Dave Orban, Jiim Fogarty

I just spoke to Pete Kanaras....how about a get together in the Philly area after the holidays ? Pete and I are both up for it.

Most definitely.....that would be a blast.

I know a place, and at least 1/2 a rhythm section, should we want to jam. (Hello, Jeff?).

- Jim

[jimfog]

WHY on earth would you want to sell a 335, Jim...?!? :confused:

I know....nuts, right?

It was a 333, actually, with Lollar Imperials. Great, great guitar, but just not me. Just left a couple hours ago..........

My gigging is mostly tele/strat plus this Gretsch I'm digging, and a Hamer semihollow Mahogany Artist has captured my heart and humbucker slot. Very fine guitar.

- jim

[Jeff Michael]

Here, into any proposed get-togethers in the City Of Brotherly Love (where flak vests are half off through Thanksgiving!).

You ditched the 333? And replaced it with a Hamer? Not that same Hamer from a ways back?

[jimfog]

You ditched the 333? And replaced it with a Hamer? Not that same Hamer from a ways back?

Yeah.....you know how I fought that thing and went back and forth. I got sick of struggling........my fault, not the guitar's.

Same style Hamer as before.....different axe. WHOLE different ballgame. This thing is tone monster. Seriously.

- Jim

[THINSOCKS]

Here's more Hollywood Fats for you guys. Dig the hair!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=sjIYZP37sr4

[KBR]

You sure that's Fats?

[monstermike]

Yep. Pretty sure.

[straightblues]

I know....nuts, right?

It was a 333, actually, with Lollar Imperials. Great, great guitar, but just not me. Just left a couple hours ago..........

My gigging is mostly tele/strat plus this Gretsch I'm digging, and a Hamer semihollow Mahogany Artist has captured my heart and humbucker slot. Very fine guitar.

- jim
That is funny, I have a ES333 with Lollar Imperials and a Hamer Artist Mahogany as well. I love my 333 and it gets most of the playing time. I find my Hamer acts more like a Les Paul or a fat SG. In fact, I sold my SG after I had the Artist a couple of months. I also have a couple teles and a strat, now I just have to go out and find a Gretsch. LOL!!!

I bought a Gibson Firebird V today. I got it for about $400 under market so I couldn't not buy it. It will be fun for a little while.

[sideman]

more fats: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Fbhhz6KRAGM

[Jeff Michael]

Yeah.....you know how I fought that thing and went back and forth. I got sick of struggling........my fault, not the guitar's.

Same style Hamer as before.....different axe. WHOLE different ballgame. This thing is tone monster. Seriously.

- Jim

Can't beat two 'buckers with ye olde tele control setup. That Newport Pro of mine is just killer: carved spruce top, Seth Lovers...top drawer in every respect.

Your old one was a 25th Anniversary, the model that morphed into the artist, right?

[musicofanatic5]

Here's more Hollywood Fats for you guys. Dig the hair!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=sjIYZP37sr4

Is that from Wattstax? Fats was a man of many hairdo's!

[fretshop]

Would love to!

We'll talk. I just e-mailed Deb Callahan. Haven't heard from Jim Fogarty, but Jeff is in too.

Lou told me that he might come if he can get away from the shop. That reminds me, I need to get up to Lou's and finish a 5-E7 circuit board that I've been building for myself. I'm still up in the air over my speaker choices. BTW, I figured out an easy way to add a vintage finish to tweed without the blotching and inconsistency of color.

[dukeh62]

Is that from Wattstax? Fats was a man of many hairdo's!

Definitely Wattstax. Which reminds me...TwoFeets...you MUST go and visit the Stax museum when you're in Memphis. It's about 15 minutes out of town, but SOOOOOO worth it.

[rjkohrs]

Wattstax & Fats: Can you imagine being 18 years old and playing behind Albert King? Talk about baptism under fire........

[pete kanaras]

Wattstax & Fats: Can you imagine being 18 years old and playing behind Albert King? Talk about baptism under fire........

and muddy's band before that! before or after albert king, i forget. anyway, most people don't realize just how deep fats really was.

george and crew: i'd would love to be a part of a philly get together after the holidays, count me in

[voodoohound]

Hi there,
this is a great forum .. I am happy to see my U-tube vids of Fats linked here!
m.j. aka "bluesintruder"

[rhartt1234]

According to Jeff Scott's show Monday KO Greg and Blue Weather are no more! The band has become increasingly inactive and Anders Lewen has been playing with Sven Zetterberg for some time.

I know we have some Europeans on here. Anybody know any details? What Greg and the rhythm section are doing?

It's a shame they broke up. They played Blues better than most American bands!

[Scott Miller]

Here's your chance to buy a lot of amps... I mean a LOT of amps, as in "Lot of 58 Silvertones," "Lot of 15 Supros/Valcos," "Lot of 43 Magnatones."

http://soniccircus.com/site/amps/ampsalehome.html

[THINSOCKS]

According to Jeff Scott's show Monday KO Greg and Blue Weather are no more! The band has become increasingly inactive and Anders Lewen has been playing with Sven Zetterberg for some time.

I know we have some Europeans on here. Anybody know any details? What Greg and the rhythm section are doing?

It's a shame they broke up. They played Blues better than most American bands!

Well, since we are talking about Knockout Greg and European blues guys, I'd like to let all the Southern California guys who lurk on this thread know that I'll be backing up UK singer and piano man Mike Sanchez later this month on the 23rd at the Blue Cafe in Long Beach and on the 25th at The Derby in Hollywood. Should be two great shows.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/frankiethetut/Sanchez.jpg

[valcotone]

Damn!! That will be a great show. Mike Sanchez' album with KO Greg & BW is some fine fine stuff.

[dukeh62]

Well, since we are talking about Knockout Greg and European blues guys, I'd like to let all the Southern California guys who lurk on this thread know that I'll be backing up UK singer and piano man Mike Sanchez later this month on the 23rd at the Blue Cafe in Long Beach and on the 25th at The Derby in Hollywood. Should be two great shows.



WOW!!! Congrats Frank...Mike is fantastic. Should be a great time!!!

[Cleanhead]

I have to agree with Ryan's assessment - KO Greg are (were?) a mighty fine band... When I was touring in Sweden a year ago, I was on the same line-up for a festival in Norrtalje... the band sounded great - only wished that Greg blew more harp (indicated that lately he enjoyed rhythm guitar)... The guys were super nice - Anders let us borrow an amp (his blues jr. w/ some mods) for the rest of our tour - also, the bass player - Urban Hed (what a great name) let us stay at his place... the Swedes aside from being stellar musicians were some of the nicest people we met in Europe...

Perhaps the musical highlight was watching KO Greg backup Mike Sanchez on a Sunday night in a small pub in Stockholm.... The rhythm section was incredible - Mike actually used his own guitarist - a young (maybe 18?) kid from England... killer chops... would have been neat thought to see/hear anders with him...

I hope that they remain together...

Kurt

[TwoFeets]

This disappoints me about as much as it did when the Mighty Blue Kings, or at least, the Mighty Blue Kings as we knew them, called it quits.

[dukeh62]

Perhaps the musical highlight was watching KO Greg backup Mike Sanchez on a Sunday night in a small pub in Stockholm.... The rhythm section was incredible - Mike actually used his own guitarist - a young (maybe 18?) kid from England... killer chops... would have been neat thought to see/hear anders with him...

I hope that they remain together...

Kurt

That would be Oliver Darling. And you're right, he's killer too.
http://www.myspace.com/33956822

[hasserl]

Here's your chance to buy a lot of amps... I mean a LOT of amps, as in "Lot of 58 Silvertones," "Lot of 15 Supros/Valcos," "Lot of 43 Magnatones."

http://soniccircus.com/site/amps/ampsalehome.html

Holy crap! Theres's a lot of good stuff there. I'm digging that lot of Alamo's.