West Coast Blues Thread - Version 2.0

[GOLDENSTRAT]

'One Mint Julip" made me think of Ronnie Earl's "Stickin" and Jimmie Vaughan's " Extra Jimmies" . Lots of great turn arounds too. fred

[Poppa Stoppa]

I gave my H-62 a workout this weekend, its first voyage since I installed the Fretshop wiring harness. The taper on the volume pots had been on/off, making it annoying to play, but that is no longer a problem. It's a screamer; the out-of-phase middle position, now that I can actually control it, is scary. I play in a somewhat take-no-prisoners band, but I almost had to rein it in now and then. Scott, George, - what pots and caps did ya use? Any secrets you can share?

[KBR]

If anyone has a cleanish Fender Head, with no mildew/mold smells
I am lookin for a spare:
Black or Silver Face no MV.
Bassman, Bandmaster, Super Reverb or Bandmaster Reverb head.
email me, please
kennyblueray@comcast.net

[Scott Miller]

"Scott, George, - what pots and caps did ya use? Any secrets you can share?"

Hell if I know. I just kind of said "Help!" and then bought the thing from George and had a guy here install it.

[Short Bus]

Holmstrom in Pittsburgh last year with Mavis

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xb5S7rzAI4E

Great tone!

[mikelaw]

Holmstrom in Pittsburgh last year with Mavis

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xb5S7rzAI4E

Great tone!


and fingers of course...
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/6615/pedals0202bm2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[KBR]

Kool stuff from LA Holmes and Jeff Turmes. (Great Gig, too)

[GOLDENSTRAT]

OK, if teles with a great lead pickup sound fat and gnarly and the rhythm pups sound good but not fabulous or as distinctive, has anyone put a tele lead pup in the neck position too? thanks, fred

[KBR]

I had a Strat w/ 3 Van Zandt Tele bridge pups, awesome...
wish i had it back!!!!!!!!

[Scott Miller]

Chris Andersen last night: Imagine Chris doing Magic Sam's Boogie, and then imagine him using a looper on it. Har!!!

[Strat-O]

"Mavis Staples' guitar player" sounds good. :)

[valcotone]

Inspired by that old, bald and gassy fellow ;-) ... I recently put a Lollar Charlie Christian pickup in the neck of my favourite parts tele... it reads 3.5K but easily keeps up with the 8K Lollar Special T in the bridge. Nice big tones.


http://www.kilback.net/pics/ccpickup002sml.jpg

[safecracker]

Inspired by that old, bald and gassy fellow ;-) ... I recently put a Lollar Charlie Christian pickup in the neck of my favourite parts tele... it reads 3.5K but easily keeps up with the 8K Lollar Special T in the bridge. Nice big tones.


http://www.kilback.net/pics/ccpickup002sml.jpg
Great looking axe!

[Dave Orban]

Inspired by that old, bald and gassy fellow ;-) ... I recently put a Lollar Charlie Christian pickup in the neck of my favourite parts tele... it reads 3.5K but easily keeps up with the 8K Lollar Special T in the bridge. Nice big tones.


http://www.kilback.net/pics/ccpickup002sml.jpgHey! I resemble that remark...!

[straightblues]

Nice looking tele Valcotone.

Here is my latest parts tele. It is a warmoth body and neck. Don Mare broadcaster pickup in the bridge and his S.Tele in the neck. Glendale Cold Rolled bridge. It sounds great. I did the paint and cut the pickguard myself. I classed it up with some Harmony cup cake knobs.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/straightblues/IMG_1427.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/straightblues/IMG_1419.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/straightblues/IMG_1358.jpg

[GOLDENSTRAT]

um, WOW!

[aja]

Great playing and guitar tone on those youtubes clips George !!

[mr_jlemko]

Chris Andersen last night: Imagine Chris doing Magic Sam's Boogie, and then imagine him using a looper on it. Har!!!

The Kid did tear it up on Saturday night. The first time he did that it completely caught me surprise.

[Scott Miller]

I went on another Excello compilation binge recently, and the one that stands out is "Deep Harmonica Blues" on the Ace label. It doesn't have as much life-changing guitar (like "My Home is a Prison" and "Chicken Hearted Woman") but it has some great tunes, and really raw wacked-out harp. Kind of the Excello harp equivalent of Excello guitar.

My name is Scott and I'm an Excello-holic...

[glblues]

Wow, I knew it would sound good but I didn't realize it would sound this good. It kind of took me a little by surprise as I thought it's a reverb unit...nothing really special about that. But it actually enhances the tone without altering it, if that makes any sense. The vintage Fender units probably do the same thing. Much more transparent than I expected. The tone control does a good job of giving it that sort of compressed Fender sound like on the live Ronnie Earl/Jimmy Rogers CD. Definitely a keeper and well worth the wait. It's been awhile since I played through a Fender tank so I'm not sure how close to an original it sounds, but I sure do like what I'm hearing. Drenched and rich sounding. Now for that Louis Tremblelux... :dude:dude:dude


Tom

dammit, you're killing me!
i dont think i can afford anything for a while after upgrading my guitars with rs kits and my 135 with lollar 50s p90s
no! i have to force myself to be happy with just a reverb PEDAL..... :BOUNCE

[fretshop]

OK, if teles with a great lead pickup sound fat and gnarly and the rhythm pups sound good but not fabulous or as distinctive, has anyone put a tele lead pup in the neck position too? thanks, fred

I made a Tele style instrument for Richie Sambora that had three WL Vanzandt bridge pickups installed, and a voiced harness. That axe was stolen during a gear heist. The problem with using the bridge pickup in the neck position was the magnet spacing vs. the string spacing at the neck area. I made a second, less ornate lefty model in 1987 for Mark Dronge (previous owner of Guild Guitars) when the company was trying to romance Elliott Easton...don't know what happened to that one.

[fretshop]

Nice looking tele Valcotone.

Here is my latest parts tele. It is a warmoth body and neck. Don Mare broadcaster pickup in the bridge and his S.Tele in the neck. Glendale Cold Rolled bridge. It sounds great. I did the paint and cut the pickguard myself. I classed it up with some Harmony cup cake knobs.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/straightblues/IMG_1427.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/straightblues/IMG_1419.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/straightblues/IMG_1358.jpg

Gorgeous !!! I'll bet it sounds great too !!!

[fretshop]

Philly Reunion Gang:

Our Drummer in the Philly Soiree You Tube clips passed away yesterday, very unexpectedly....Very young fellow. We're meeting at The Franklin Tavern tomorrow night.

As this is the internet, I thought it best not to divulge too much here out of repect for his family's privacy.

Please check your e-mails

[Dave Orban]

Philly Reunion Gang: Our Drummer in the You Tube clips passed away yesterday, very unexpectedly....Very young fellow. We're meeting at The Franklin tomorrow night.

Check your e-mailsWow!

[Jeff Michael]

Oh George--that's terrible news. I can't make the Franklin tomorrow night, but please raise a cold one to Vegas for me while you're there.

I honestly can't think of more to say.

JAM

[GOLDENSTRAT]

Sorry, very sad news Fretshop. fred

[fretshop]

Oh George--that's terrible news. I can't make the Franklin tomorrow night, but please raise a cold one to Vegas for me while you're there.

I honestly can't think of more to say.

JAM

He was a truly wonderful young man !!! A very kind and personable fellow....his spirit and outlook were warm and bright in a cold and dark world. Such a cool guy...Pete loved to play his drums. He drove around in a 70's Coupe De Ville with his rig in the trunk...and a box of expensive cigars on the seat...always ready for a gig. He tried to enjoy his life to the fullest, and was one of the best swing and shuffle drummers I had ever had the pleasure to work with. He kept remarking to me that couldn't wait to get back to Jerzee's to hang out with the "Philly Reunion Crew". Pete really enjoyed meeting all of you. We're dedicating the upcoming Military Families fundraiser "Help For Heros" to him.

[susudio]

Philly Reunion Gang:

Our Drummer in the Philly Soiree You Tube clips passed away yesterday, very unexpectedly....Very young fellow. We're meeting at The Franklin Tavern tomorrow night.

As this is the internet, I thought it best not to divulge too much here out of repect for his family's privacy.

Please check your e-mails
George, I didn't know him that well but he always had a smile and a great attitude. I had the pleasure of playing a fun set with him at the Franklin on his birthday.
He'll be missed by many. RIP Vegas

[pete kanaras]

that's horrible george, he was waaay too young. please send my condolences

[Echo Are]

My name is Scott and I'm an Excello-holic...

And the label had a really cool-looking logo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrXHLTRWAIQ

Those of you who've only heard Rod Bernard's hit version of the above song will find this one a treat.

[jumpnblues]

My goodness George, that is terrible. So very sorry to hear it. I just went to my second funeral in as many months this AM and it sucks. But it's part of life. Sorry again, George.


Tom

[jumpnblues]

gl,


I can't remember if I mentioned it to you but Weber makes a really good outboard reverb tank kit in case you have tech skills and knowledge. You can get one of Ted's kits with both reverb and tremolo if you want. I don't have the knowledge and experience to build one although I can solder, so I bought one of Ron Veil's tanks. So far, I'm really happy with it.
P.S. I'll bet that 135 sounds killer. I like those guitars.


Tom

[Scott Miller]

Yikes! Some of you prolly got this from Charlie Lange, but here's a synopsis:

"Due to recent lawsuits brought by large multi national music corporations, many legitimately licensed titles from such respected labels as ACE & BEAR FAMILY will be unavailable here in the US soon... We are going through our inventory and marking these titles so you can
easily find them on our website.. By typing the word BLOCKED into
the search box, you will see titles that will soon be unavailable here in
the US..."

Crikey. Half of my blues collection is on Ace.

[GOLDENSTRAT]

Thanks for the heads up Scott. Grabbed the Gene Phillips cd. Any must haves on that list? fred

[THINSOCKS]

Thanks for the heads up Scott. Grabbed the Gene Phillips cd. Any must haves on that list? fred

Both the Roy Hawkins records are worth having. He had a string of good guitar players on a lot of that stuff - Johhny Moore, Lafayette Thomas, T-Bone, Chuck Norris. Chuck Norris also is on guitar on a lot of the stuff on the Young Jessie CD. The Floyd Dixon disc is worth the money too. Tiny Webb is playin guitar on some of that Dixon stuff. That Gene Phillips cd is the pick of the bunch though IMHO. Phillips had the best West Coast blues sideman on his records. Jake Porter, Maxwell Davis, Lloyd Glenn and a string of really swinging drummers. In fact, that's hands down my favorite blues drumming on any record. Do you have that George Smith cd? That's a must have too.

[Scott Miller]

The first time I heard jump blues of any kind was from a Gene Phillips LP a friend of mine found at a Goodwill store, probably 1970. One of those Crown releases, I think. My head kind of exploded; it sounded like jazz musicians playing I-don't-know-what.

Anyway, I'm partial to those early Jimmy McCracklin CDs (more Lafayette Thomas), the Johnny Otis 50s broadcasts, and (not on that list, but it will be) "Dig These Blues Volume 2" has a bunch of cool stuff, including three songs that Nemeth recorded on "Come and Get It," although John found them via Jr. Watson's 45 collection.

[TwoFeets]

Richard Berry and Young Jessie are cool kind of proto-rock and roll records. Check em out!

[S.W.Erdnase]

I went on another Excello compilation binge recently, and the one that stands out is "Deep Harmonica Blues" on the Ace label. It doesn't have as much life-changing guitar (like "My Home is a Prison" and "Chicken Hearted Woman") but it has some great tunes, and really raw wacked-out harp. Kind of the Excello harp equivalent of Excello guitar.

My name is Scott and I'm an Excello-holic...

Which CD is "My Home Is A Prison" on?

[Scott Miller]

"Which CD is "My Home Is A Prison" on?"

Best of Excello Records- 30 Classic Tracks, the one with the guy with a Tele on the cover. Killer CD! Although my wife is sick of it because it has some really great and raw doo-wop on it, and a little doo-wop goes a long way with her. But also because I play it so damn much.

[Schwalbe]

Philly Reunion Gang:

Our Drummer in the Philly Soiree You Tube clips passed away yesterday, very unexpectedly....Very young fellow. We're meeting at The Franklin Tavern tomorrow night.

As this is the internet, I thought it best not to divulge too much here out of respect for his family's privacy.

Please check your e-mails
That's terribly sad news. I didn't know him but it's always a shame to loose a friend and a fellow Blues musician besides. My condolences.

gl,


I can't remember if I mentioned it to you but Weber makes a really good outboard reverb tank kit in case you have tech skills and knowledge. You can get one of Ted's kits with both reverb and tremolo if you want. I don't have the knowledge and experience to build one although I can solder, so I bought one of Ron Veil's tanks. So far, I'm really happy with it.
P.S. I'll bet that 135 sounds killer. I like those guitars.
Tom
I've got one of those Weber units, good stuff IMO. They need a couple of of tweeks but the bones are all there. A Mullard CV4024 helps a lot.

Yikes! Some of you prolly got this from Charlie Lange, but here's a synopsis:

"Due to recent lawsuits brought by large multi national music corporations, many legitimately licensed titles from such respected labels as ACE & BEAR FAMILY will be unavailable here in the US soon... We are going through our inventory and marking these titles so you can
easily find them on our website.. By typing the word BLOCKED into
the search box, you will see titles that will soon be unavailable here in
the US..."
Crikey. Half of my blues collection is on Ace.
Yeah I got that. So who are these multi-national corporations? I need to make sure I don't spend any money with those outfits.
I looked at the blocked list. Wow, BB, Pee Wee, Fulson, George Smith, Jimmy McCracklin... It's a damn shame these recordings won't be available. Kind of puts a dent in the future of what we do and having a chance to pass that along to the next generation.

[valcotone]

The recordings should still be available, just as imports. Or purchased through some place like GEMM. (http://www.gemm.com/) Or, a US-based company may license them and reissue them again.

It's a shame though, those ACE collections are great, I really like the early BB King ones, and Gene Phillips who Thinsocks turned me onto. Killer stuff!

[mikelaw]

blues jam monday played my boy's black bassman head through a 1-12" cabinet, sounded KILLER! was like a black deluxe on steroids! great tone, fat bass, awesome gain. i turned and looked, bass was on 12, treble on 1, volume cranked. dope! he said the only thing he's done is change one of the 12ax7's to a 12at7. man was it stellar!

[jumpnblues]

Black Bassman heads do indeed sound killer. Great amps and very underrated.


Tom

[GOLDENSTRAT]

word up. Blue beat has (had) a cd from Rob Rio Called "Swingtrain" that advertises that Jr. Watson "rips on guitar" on but I can tell you sadly that there is no guitar on the cd. fred

[jetlag]

That Gene Phillips cd is the pick of the bunch though IMHO. Phillips had the best West Coast blues sideman on his records. Jake Porter, Maxwell Davis, Lloyd Glenn and a string of really swinging drummers. In fact, that's hands down my favorite blues drumming on any record.

Hey, are you guys talking about "Swinging the Blues" or "Drinkin' and Stinkin' ?"

[fretshop]

Hey, are you guys talking about "Swinging the Blues" or "Drinkin' and Stinkin' ?"

Karl,

Swinging the Blues is supposed to be the defnitive compilation. I was told that Drinkin' & Stinkin' was good but that a "first choice" should be the Swinging CD.

[THINSOCKS]

Hey, are you guys talking about "Swinging the Blues" or "Drinkin' and Stinkin' ?"

I like both and both contain recordings from the same time span, but Swinging was issued first and has the higher charting sides that Phillips released. Some good stuff on Drinkin' though.

[jumpnblues]

word up. Blue beat has (had) a cd from Rob Rio Called "Swingtrain" that advertises that Jr. Watson "rips on guitar" on but I can tell you sadly that there is no guitar on the cd. fred


Yeah, I found that out too...about 5 years ago or so. I was disappointed although it's not a bad CD.


Tom

[Schwalbe]

word up. Blue beat has (had) a cd from Rob Rio Called "Swingtrain" that advertises that Jr. Watson "rips on guitar" on but I can tell you sadly that there is no guitar on the cd. fred

Yeah, I found that out too...about 5 years ago or so. I was disappointed although it's not a bad CD.

Tom

I can't imagine Charlie did that intentionally, I sure hope not. Did you ask him about it?

[jumpnblues]

No, I haven't asked him about it, but I'm sure it's not intentional. I've been doing business with Charlie for probably close to 10 years and all his descriptions except that one have been dead on. At least that's been my experience.

P.S. Dan, I'm hoping to make it to your Blues On Grand gig in Des Moines the 21st. See ya's there.


Tom

[Autopilot Slim]

Here is the CD I have with "My Home Is A Prison" on it.
It's a Excello Lonesome Sundown record reissued by Ace.

http://www.acerecords.co.uk/content.php?page_id=59&release=563

You can pick it up at Triangle Music online.

http://www.triangle-music.com/

[Schwalbe]

No, I haven't asked him about it, but I'm sure it's not intentional. I've been doing business with Charlie for probably close to 10 years and all his descriptions except that one have been dead on. At least that's been my experience.

P.S. Dan, I'm hoping to make it to your Blues On Grand gig in Des Moines the 21st. See ya's there.


Tom

:BEER



Schwalbe I see you guys are playing at Blues on Grand this month.....as of now I'm planning on trying to make that show. Maybe Jason and Tom can make it too?
I hope you guys can make it. The only other times I've had a chance to hang with WCBer's was when Valcotone was in town and at the IBC with Hartt, Ducoff and Law. Both times it was a blast.

I'll have one of these along, if it hearing one is any enticement.

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/6615/pedals0202bm2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[jumpnblues]

:BEER


I hope you guys can make it. The only other times I've had a chance to hang with WCBer's was when Valcotone was in town and at the IBC with Hartt, Ducoff and Law. Both times it was a blast.

I'll have one of these along, if it hearing one is any enticement.



Cool! Isn't Rick Holmstrom using one of those? I was thinking that I read that here awhile back? Anyway, lookin' forward to hearin' and meetin' ya's.


Tom

[straightblues]

The old Jensen speaker in my Tweed Deluxe clone bit the dust today. I put in a Celestion speaker in that I had laying around and it sounded fantastic in the amp. I was really surprised. Is anyone else using Celestion speakers in thier rigs?

[Scott Miller]

Awwwwrrrrr.... Crikey! Check out Mike Schermer:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=O2joBiJsurs

[RickyKing]

The L.F. jam looks like a good one.....

[Strat-O]

This is a great clip with KBR at that jam. Really nice playing and tone. Wonder what the amp rig is?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DS6SVcJ65PY

[nmontz]

Dan and Tom.....still planning on making it the 21st. I'll e-mail Bluesbreaker 59 to see if he can make it too. I missed you guys on that Winter Fest thing with RJ at the Fort Des Moines. The roads were real bad that weekend or I would have been there. Looking forward to hearing you guys play next week.

[KBR]

Strat-0,
that is a Lollar P90 bridge, Van Zandt strat neck pup, into an Allen head, it's the 5F2 supposed to be a 62 Vibrolux type amp, with my 2x12 cab, Weber P12N & P12Q. cab
Thanks, for the shout out.
oh and a Reverb Tank RI

The other song is more West Coast swing type.

[Goldie295]

The old Jensen speaker in my Tweed Deluxe clone bit the dust today. I put in a Celestion speaker in that I had laying around and it sounded fantastic in the amp. I was really surprised. Is anyone else using Celestion speakers in thier rigs?

I use a Celestion G12H in my Tweed Deluxe clone. Big clean sounds. Recommended.

I want to try a Legend 15" 200w in my Pro but can't find one in the UK.

Cheers,
Phil

[jumpnblues]

I use a Celestion G12H in my Tweed Deluxe clone. Big clean sounds. Recommended.

I want to try a Legend 15" 200w in my Pro but can't find one in the UK.

Cheers,
Phil


My new Louis Electric KR-10/12 has both a Celestion G12H30 and Celestion Vintage 10. Both sound superb, but I think Lou Rosano either hand builds or tweaks them. He's been experimenting with the G12H30, Greenback, and Gold in the Tremblelux I just ordered. I highly recommend Celestions. I also like various Webers and some of the new Eminence speakers but I think Celestions are often overlooked and they make excellent speakers that are particularly good for tweed based amps IMHO.


Tom


Tom

[Bluewail]

The L.F. jam looks like a good one.....

Oh it is indeed!!:AOK

Check out the schedule past and future as well as some of the photos & video on the site: www.rwcbluesjam.com (http://www.rwcbluesjam.com)

and here's a bit more from last Wed with Steve Freund

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeFFcdTMT20

[fretshop]

My new Louis Electric KR-10/12 has both a Celestion G12H30 and Celestion Vintage 10. Both sound superb, but I think Lou Rosano either hand builds or tweaks them. He's been experimenting with the G12H30, Greenback, and Gold in the Tremblelux I just ordered. I highly recommend Celestions. I also like various Webers and some of the new Eminence speakers but I think Celestions are often overlooked and they make excellent speakers that are particularly good for tweed based amps IMHO.


Tom


Tom

The Tremblelux that I have is loaded with the Hellatone 30 version...makes a huge difference. Sounds relaxed, and feels like a pair of old slippers....nice and comfy. The Tremblelux also sounds great with a Greenback. The vintage 10's are a great all around speaker as well. We've got Anson's Z's loaded with Vintage 30's and stock G12-H30''s. I am not a fan of the Vintage 30, but both my brother Arnie and Anson love 'em. Maybe it's my ears, but when I hear that V-30, It sounds like somebody put a blanket over the amp.

[THINSOCKS]

George/Fret, - By the way, I've been meaning to tell you that I got your message last week, but never heard anything from Arnie. Talk to you soon.

~ Frank

[fretshop]

George/Fret, - By the way, I've been meaning to tell you that I got your message last week, but never heard anything from Arnie. Talk to you soon.

~ Frank

Frank,

As I mentioned, Arnie started a label. He hooked up with some folks on the left coast for negotiations. He was in and out in three days. He'll be flying back again very soon, and I told him to give you a shout.

[fretshop]

I'm listening to some clips from Doug Deming's "Double Down" CD. Does anyone have the CD....any opinions ? I liked what little I heard.
He was here last night backing Guyger/Gruenling on their Little Walter tribute tour.

[valcotone]

I've not heard that one, but I've got Greg "Fingers" Taylor HI-FI BABY (http://www.warehousecreek.com/hifi/credits.htm) cd with Doug Deming and Troy Gonyea on guitar...
...along with some fine contributions by musicofanatic on the deep end! Some good stuff on that CD.

[Schwalbe]

I'm listening to some clips from Doug Deming's "Double Down" CD. Does anyone have the CD....any opinions ? I liked what little I heard.
He was here last night backing Guyger/Gruenling on their Little Walter tribute tour.
I like that disc. Haven't listened to it in a while. We used to have a great Blues show on the local community radio station, the Lazy Bill Lucas show, hosted for it's last 10 years by local Blues singer Joel Johnson. The first 10 years it was hosted by old Bill himself.
That's where I first heard Demming's CD. Joel was great about finding/playing stuff like that. He played some KBR now and then too, as well as the usual Black Top etc. artists plus all the classic Blues that we all know and love. Unfortunately we lost him to a sudden brain
aneurysm 3 years ago and the station saw it as time for a change.
Anyway, I like the Double Down disc.
I've not heard that one, but I've got Greg "Fingers" Taylor HI-FI BABY (http://www.warehousecreek.com/hifi/credits.htm) cd with Doug Deming and Troy Gonyea on guitar...
...along with some fine contributions by musicofanatic on the deep end! Some good stuff on that CD.
I need that one.

[Stringmaster]

Wouldn't have really thought of Celestions as a good match for tweed style amps, as I usually associate them with British type applications. I'm a bit a loss for what to put into my 35-40 watt tweedy meets BF build I'm considering. Thinking about 3 or 4x10's 2x12" and now a 12 and 10 combined in a cab (so everything's up in the air!). I first though Weber alnicos, but frankly, I haven't been overly excited about them--and most of the Emi's I've tried sound great, but to me they tend to have more of a modern sound, and less '50's if you will. So it sounds like some of you think the Celestion might be a good option--both for 4x10's or 2x12? I'm looking for vintage yet smooth--not harsh. Thanks for any additional input.

[straightblues]

Wow, I am surprised by the Celestion. I always associated them with metal and marshalls. I would have never tried one if I didn't have one laying around that I immediately pulled from an amp when I got it because I thought of it as a metal speaker. Live and learn. Great tone can come from different places.

[mikelaw]

celestions are my favorite. especially 2- vintage 10s in a cab with lower power speakers....YUM! not sure what it is, i just love them. ducoff the vintage alnico guy, played them in my cab and he loved the amp/cab combo and im sure those celestions had something to do with that!

[monstermike]

I did a whole CD - not the new one, but "Cryin' Hey" before it - with a Victoria tweed Deluxe with a Greenback. It sounded nice.

[jumpnblues]

Lou Rosano (Louis Electric Amps) is trying out a Greenback, G12H30, and Gold in the Tremblelux he's building for me and that amp's based on the, uhhh...Tremolux. Which, as I recall, is as tweed as you get. ;) :AOK :AOK


Tom

[jimfog]

My Deluxe Reverb is VERY happy with the Celestion C12-80 that's in there........

[stratotonedude]

I just got a 2x10 Comins jazz guitar amplifier made by Alessandro. It has Celestions.

[hahpin]

Schwalbe,
I've got that Greg Fingers cd "Hi-Fi Baby". I'll play some cuts on the show this week as the featured artist.

Harold

[Strat-O]

Schwalbe,
I've got that Greg Fingers cd "Hi-Fi Baby". I'll play some cuts on the show this week as the featured artist.

Harold

I have that too. Its a prett good disc. I didn't know who played guitar on it though. Doesn't Kim Wilson play some harp on it?

[hahpin]

I didn't know who played guitar on it though. Doesn't Kim Wilson play some harp on it?

Troy Gonyea on Guitar. Kim plays on 2 songs.
This cd featured the backup band for the Michigan recording session for Kim's "Looking for Trouble" cd.

[Schwalbe]

Schwalbe,
I've got that Greg Fingers cd "Hi-Fi Baby". I'll play some cuts on the show this week as the featured artist.

Harold

Harold! Ya found this place!
OK I'll try to listen. I can only get the station on my way home. I just have that little window from 5:30.

[susudio]

I'm listening to some clips from Doug Deming's "Double Down" CD. Does anyone have the CD....any opinions ? I liked what little I heard.
He was here last night backing Guyger/Gruenling on their Little Walter tribute tour.
G-man, I picked up the cd at the show Thursday night. I'll cut you a copy when I get a chance..
I liked his style a lot. Most of the night he used a big Kay archtop with
2 p 90s. Several tunes were played on what looked like a reissue Esquire all through a Victoria tweed amp and Victoria reverb tank with tremelo..

[jumpnblues]

Anyone here recommend a replacement tube for a Tung Sol 6K6GT in an Uncle Spot, Fender-style outboard reverb tank? The one in my unit has become very microphonic and KCA NOS tubes is out of Tung Sol 6K6GT's but has RCA's and Sylvanias in stock. Would they sound as good as the Tung Sols? Thanks.


Tom

[GOLDENSTRAT]

saw Tad Robinson last night. Great singer, very dynamic with great energy. Good local band (newly arrived from Alaska) with him. fred

[nmontz]

Tom...both those tube brands are fine. It's almost impossible to go wrong with nos RCA tubes.

[Goldie295]

Anyone here recommend a replacement tube for a Tung Sol 6K6GT in an Uncle Spot, Fender-style outboard reverb tank? The one in my unit has become very microphonic and KCA NOS tubes is out of Tung Sol 6K6GT's but has RCA's and Sylvanias in stock. Would they sound as good as the Tung Sols? Thanks.


Tom

Tom either the RCA or the Sylvania will be fine. Get the cheapest.

Cheers,
Phil

[Goldie295]

I'm listening to some clips from Doug Deming's "Double Down" CD. Does anyone have the CD....any opinions ? I liked what little I heard.
He was here last night backing Guyger/Gruenling on their Little Walter tribute tour.

I downloaded this album on eMusic last month. I like it. That said, the guitar playing seems to be the usual demonstration of 'what they can do' rather than 'who they are' which I find a little irritating.

As an aisde, I did a gig at the weekend and my wallwart for the reverb unit died on me. Faced with a second set to do and no reverb was a bit of a worrier. However, it went well and I got compliments from the band and bar owner. I think the leads cut a lot better so they heard them clearer. We have a fairly grown-up gig supporting an American band that has come over to the UK on Friday. I was going to roll out the 60s Fender Tube Reverb but I'm now thinking I'll 'go naked'. If all goes well, I may loose the reverb for good.

Cheers,
Phil

[fretshop]

My Deluxe Reverb is VERY happy with the Celestion C12-80 that's in there........


Jim, I thought you had a 70 in your deluxe (?)

[fretshop]

Anyone here recommend a replacement tube for a Tung Sol 6K6GT in an Uncle Spot, Fender-style outboard reverb tank? The one in my unit has become very microphonic and KCA NOS tubes is out of Tung Sol 6K6GT's but has RCA's and Sylvanias in stock. Would they sound as good as the Tung Sols? Thanks.


Tom


Tom, Either one is fine, but I personally prefer the ruggedness of an OEM RCA. Mike tests all the old tubes...so it should be nice and quiet. If anything goes awry, all you have to do is call him.

[jumpnblues]

Thanks guys. I appreciate your advice.


Tom

[susudio]

"I downloaded this album on eMusic last month. I like it. That said, the guitar playing seems to be the usual demonstration of 'what they can do' rather than 'who they are' which I find a little irritating."

Goldie295, I somewhat agree with your opinion of the guitar work on this CD.
It was cut in 2002.
I saw Doug Deming with Dennis Gruenling Thursday night and I have to say that Deming can play some jump. But then again IMO most players worth their salt sound better live and in the moment. He demonstrated some creative chops.

[jetlag]

Wouldn't have really thought of Celestions as a good match for tweed style amps, as I usually associate them with British type applications. I'm a bit a loss for what to put into my 35-40 watt tweedy meets BF build I'm considering. Thinking about 3 or 4x10's 2x12" and now a 12 and 10 combined in a cab (so everything's up in the air!). I first though Weber alnicos, but frankly, I haven't been overly excited about them--and most of the Emi's I've tried sound great, but to me they tend to have more of a modern sound, and less '50's if you will. So it sounds like some of you think the Celestion might be a good option--both for 4x10's or 2x12? I'm looking for vintage yet smooth--not harsh. Thanks for any additional input.

I'm real intrigued with the speaker configuration those Juke amps employ and would seriously consider it if building a tweed clone that sits somewhere inbetween a tweed pro and tweed bassman in power. It's a 1x12+2x10 configuration that seems to fit on a baffle the size of~ a tweed bassman. With that much speaker you can still use smaller wattage rated speakers like jensen P12Q/P10Qs or whatever, and have them handle the power. Build the amp with a 2 ohm or 4 ohm OT and you're set. The 12 would give you mids and the 10's, I would think, would give you snap and keep the low end tight. I think Juke puts the 12 on the bottom and the 10's up higher on each side of the 12. Pretty cool idea.

[jumpnblues]

"[I was going to roll out the 60s Fender Tube Reverb but I'm now thinking I'll 'go naked'.]"


What a horribly traumatizing image?!!! :messedup ;) :rolleyes: :cool:


Tom

[fretshop]

"[I was going to roll out the 60s Fender Tube Reverb but I'm now thinking I'll 'go naked'.]"


What a horribly traumatizing image?!!! :messedup ;) :rolleyes: :cool:


Tom

Sounds like the new Bollocks and Tube reverb.

[zappafrank]

Help me, I'm an ill man---

Just picked up a Victoria Regal II in white tolex (used) after playing through one that my friend has at a gig. It was an 'ah ha' moment for me, and I had to have one. Last night I A-B'd the Weber 16ohm 15" speaker with the 8ohm reconed 66' Jensen P15N I have in a Clark Beaufort. (which sadly will have to go, now). The Jensen 'won', and the folks at Vic said the amp can use a 8ohm speaker just fine, but to not go any lower.

Before I swap speakers---is there anything I should be wary/aware of? I will keep the Weber as a back up, as it was actually a real nice sound, too---had great bass response and oldschool 'darkness', but that Jensen brought out the chime just a bit better, and seemed to emphasize the tube-swapping tonal variances of the amp a bit better (a 5y3 with an RCA 5881 and a decent NOS 6v6) sounds pretty WC to me).

This amp, side by side with the Deluxe Reverb or Rambler for A-B'ing at bigger stage gigs, could cover all the Fat's dirt and Ronnie Earl clean tones I want, I'm thinking---

The Clark will have it's original Weber P15N-T put back in before it goes bye-bye.

Anyway----any warnings or 'general rules of thumb' about the ohmage difference??

Thanks!

ac

[jumpnblues]

The 8 ohm speaker might be a little louder. Other than that...? That Regal II sounds like a very interesting amp though. Mark sure is coming out with some nice stuff lately.


Tom

[mikelaw]

2 steps max AC is what Ive heard. 2-8/4-16/8-32. talking with my amp tech last year he said its all a bit 'overrated' the ohm factors. and i agree with him to a point. the only thing you should be concerned with is what that amp puts out for a rating and not going 'under' that rating. most fenders are 2 ohm outs. some are 4.

if your vicky is 2 out, just dont go above 8 or under 2 and youll be fine. multi speaker cabs i usually wire series/parallel which matches the ohm rating to ONE speaker. 4 -8 ohm speakers=8 ohm cab. i have tried other options and my ears like series/parallel the best.

[blueskalle]

I just thought it was time to give a reminder to everybody to get a copy of one of the greatest "modern" cds ever made - Lee Mcbee and the Passions "44". This could be the start of an annual reminder for you guys to get a copy, each one of you!!! ;-D
Kalle

[valcotone]

Hmmm...... well, AC - If the output transformer of the amp calls for a 16-ohm speaker then the most power it can transfer will be with a 16-ohm speaker. All things being equal (ie. speaker magnet, cone, voice coil, efficiency, etc), using an 8-ohm speaker will mean a little bit of a cut in output power and volume.

I'd say that *most* Fender amps call for an 8-ohm speaker load given that all the single-speaker combos (except the Champ 4-ohms) used an 8-ohm speaker. Bassmans and Super Reverbs use a 2-ohm load, tweed Supers, Twins, etc, use 4-ohm, and the ol' 3-speaker Bandmaster used a 4-ohm output transformer but with a 2.7 ohm load (three 8-ohm speakers all in parallel).

I think it's weird that Victoria would have spec'd a 16-ohm speaker for the Regal II, as it really limits the replacement speakers you can throw in there - especially vintage ones. AC, you might want to double-check with them to make sure this is the case. If it's true then it kinds of cools my occasional desire for that amp.

[Stringmaster]

Lately I've played around a bunch with mismatched impedences--all in amps with tranformers that were deemed safe by the builders--but that could vary--check first! Some general observations when running a 4ohm trannie:

An 8 ohm speaker will sound darker, with not much percieved output change

A 2 ohm load will have lowered output, with a bit cleaner, less mid sound (sometimes good).

And of course running the proper impedence is what it is.

So to me as long as it's safe, it's more about the ability to change the tone/dynamics of an amp, which of course can also be done via speaker changes.

Just my experiences of course.

[Strat-O]

I just thought it was time to give a reminder to everybody to get a copy of one of the greatest "modern" cds ever made - Lee Mcbee and the Passions "44". This could be the start of an annual reminder for you guys to get a copy, each one of you!!! ;-D
Kalle

That is a really good album, great sound and playing. Its just got too many 'standards' on it. It just doesn't keep my attention. I always put it on and forget I'm listening to it after a while. Its weird. But it is a great disc. I have the same problem with Rod Piazza's last album "Thrillsville". Great sound and playing all over it but the song selection is just not interesting to me. I'd recommend them to anybody just getting into classic blues though...total winners. :YinYang

[Strat-O]

Help me, I'm an ill man---

Just picked up a Victoria Regal II in white tolex (used) after playing through one that my friend has at a gig. It was an 'ah ha' moment for me, and I had to have one. Last night I A-B'd the Weber 16ohm 15" speaker with the 8ohm reconed 66' Jensen P15N I have in a Clark Beaufort. (which sadly will have to go, now). The Jensen 'won', and the folks at Vic said the amp can use a 8ohm speaker just fine, but to not go any lower.

Before I swap speakers---is there anything I should be wary/aware of? I will keep the Weber as a back up, as it was actually a real nice sound, too---had great bass response and oldschool 'darkness', but that Jensen brought out the chime just a bit better, and seemed to emphasize the tube-swapping tonal variances of the amp a bit better (a 5y3 with an RCA 5881 and a decent NOS 6v6) sounds pretty WC to me).

This amp, side by side with the Deluxe Reverb or Rambler for A-B'ing at bigger stage gigs, could cover all the Fat's dirt and Ronnie Earl clean tones I want, I'm thinking---

The Clark will have it's original Weber P15N-T put back in before it goes bye-bye.

Anyway----any warnings or 'general rules of thumb' about the ohmage difference??

Thanks!

ac

That's weird, mine didn't come with an 8 ohm OT and speaker. I know that the 1x12 Victoriette/Lux comes with a 16 ohm OT. I didn't have that problem to deal with. It would be a pain in the neck to have to search out 16 ohm. speakers to go in it. Going to a different load usually takes the amp too far away from the signature sound of an amp for me.

[Strat-O]

I downloaded this album on eMusic last month. I like it. That said, the guitar playing seems to be the usual demonstration of 'what they can do' rather than 'who they are' which I find a little irritating.

As an aisde, I did a gig at the weekend and my wallwart for the reverb unit died on me. Faced with a second set to do and no reverb was a bit of a worrier. However, it went well and I got compliments from the band and bar owner. I think the leads cut a lot better so they heard them clearer. We have a fairly grown-up gig supporting an American band that has come over to the UK on Friday. I was going to roll out the 60s Fender Tube Reverb but I'm now thinking I'll 'go naked'. If all goes well, I may loose the reverb for good.

Cheers,
Phil

Good luck. I rarely ever use reverb...maybe one song per set. I'm not so sure its a good thing for me but it'll make a man out of you for sure. Reverb covers up alot, which can be good or bad.

Both a Telecaster and a '54 Les Paul with a wrap tailpiece are extremely touch sensitive. Without reverb, you hear everything. Those are the two primary guitars that I use.

[mikelaw]

in my research if you use a speaker load 'under' the tranny rating you will blow the amp eventually, you will have blown power tubes as well.

the cab rating alway should be MORE then the amp/tranny rating.

[valcotone]

Mike, don't mean to call you out on this, but it's an important topic. A lot of the amps from the 60's on up (most Fender's included) had 2 speaker jacks, one for the onboard speaker and another for an external cab. For example, the Deluxe Reverb uses an 8-ohm output transformer and the on-board speaker is 8-ohms as well, the idea is when you plug in an external cab it should be 8-ohms too.... then you present a 4-ohm load to the amp because the jacks are wired in parallel (8R||8R=4R). Fender anticipated their users doing this so I expect it is safe to do. Going the other way (16-ohm load on an 8-ohm amp) is also generally accepted as a safe thing to do, in most cases, YMMV, etc.

Just a note: electronics theory (blah, blah, blah...) says you get the most power transfer when the two impedances are equal... that's why I said above that a 16-ohm speaker on a 16-ohm amp output will yield the most power (given no other variances in the speaker, etc)...

OK, I've rambled enough, but in any event, it's good to be cautious... if the OT is getting hot you're probably pushing it too far. And if you have a precious old amp why take a chance...

[nmontz]

I agree with Mike....I was always under the impression with most amps it is ok to go to a higher ohm rating but not a lower.

I'm not sure about the mutliple speaker jacks on Fender amps? What about a SR then? How do you use that extra jack with the stock 2 ohm load hooked up? I know if I go to a 4 ohm load in my 8 ohm showman that it probably isn't a good thing? I thought you were always supposed to use one jack or the other but not both unless you could still get to the correct load.

I was thinking the same thing as Valcotone that it was interesting it had an 16 om speaker. I wonder though when Victoria ok'd it with the 8ohm speaker that it really has an 8 ohm tranny. Using the 16 ohm speaker would push the amp more, lower the output/volume and make the amp sludge out more. Needing a 16 ohm load would seriously limit speaker choices, so a 16 ohm tranny is a curious selction....maybe it has multiple taps? Maybe Baier got a better tone out of 16 ohm tap than the others as it would be using different winds in the transformer? Sideman you just got one of these right? What ohm speaker does yours come with? Does it say anywhere what the amp's load rating is?

I like that Lee cd, and all his others and the Mike Morgan cd's with Lee as well. I love Lee's vocals and really love laid back in the pocket playing and grooves. I never get tired of that....BluesKalle....WCBT member Jetlag plays with Lee on his regular Sunday night gig at BB's Lawnside BBQ. If you are ever down in Kansas City it is worth stopping by. Great Music and Food!

[Stringmaster]

I think much is related to the amp/transformer design--with many newer amps/trannies being "over engineered". That's why I suggested contacting the mfg. about what is ok. On my Tone King the manual actually encourages you to experiment with mismatches, to get different tones. I imagine some of the vintage stuff is much less forgiving, especially with some of the less potent trannies in the smaller powered amps. FWIW, my tech indicated that I shouldn't plug an extension speaker into my BF Vibrolux for any extended periods.

[sideman]

I swapped out the original Eminence Legend in my Regal II for a vintage '56 P15N and it's sounding good. The P15N is middier and overdrives fast. Didn't even know the amp was 16 ohms, assumed 8. Victoria switched from the Weber to the Eminence a couple years ago. That amp with a couple 6v6s in it sounds awful nice. Onboard reverb too. In addition to playing with power tubes (one 6v6 for practice) you can swap out the rectifiers.

[valcotone]

I'm not sure about the mutliple speaker jacks on Fender amps? What about a SR then? How do you use that extra jack with the stock 2 ohm load hooked up?

That's a really good question!! I can't see plugging in another 2-ohm cab to present a load of 1-ohm to the amp!?!? YMMV, etc...

I know if I go to a 4 ohm load in my 8 ohm showman that it probably isn't a good thing? I believe using your 8-ohm showman with a 4-ohm load should be ok, and is generally accepted as normal use.

I thought you were always supposed to use one jack or the other but not both unless you could still get to the correct load.If I remember correctly, you must always use the Speaker out and can't just use the Aux Speaker jack by itself (due to the way it's wired up).

[nc slim]

I just thought it was time to give a reminder to everybody to get a copy of one of the greatest "modern" cds ever made - Lee Mcbee and the Passions "44". This could be the start of an annual reminder for you guys to get a copy, each one of you!!! ;-D
Kalle


Get your mind outta the gutter great song

[Goldie295]

I swapped out the original Eminence Legend in my Regal II for a vintage '56 P15N and it's sounding good. The P15N is middier and overdrives fast. Didn't even know the amp was 16 ohms, assumed 8. Victoria switched from the Weber to the Eminence a couple years ago. That amp with a couple 6v6s in it sounds awful nice. Onboard reverb too. In addition to playing with power tubes (one 6v6 for practice) you can swap out the rectifiers.

Sideman,

I'm after an Eminence Legend 15" speaker if you want to sell yours?


Cheers,
Phil

[fretshop]

Posted by nmontz:
I like that Lee cd, and all his others and the Mike Morgan cd's with Lee as well. I love Lee's vocals and really love laid back in the pocket playing and grooves. I never get tired of that....BluesKalle....WCBT member Jetlag plays with Lee on his regular Sunday night gig at BB's Lawnside BBQ. If you are ever down in Kansas City it is worth stopping by. Great Music and Food!

I'm still pissed that I couldn't get leave approval to make Karl's B'day at BB's....BUT I do have a CD sampler of the evening...Lee's got it...it's all there, ("been everywhere but the electric chair...seen everything but the wind")....and Karl's guitar playing was superb. Karl, you could create some serious Jonesing,(and probably even more serious Ebay surfing) this A.M. by posting the "Wall of Tweed" photo from the party. BTW: Lee is one of Anson F's favorite all time singers.

[pete kanaras]

I can't see plugging in another 2-ohm cab to present a load of 1-ohm to the amp!?!? YMMV, etc...

it "worked" for joe walsh! he did that for years with a pair of sr's, ran one amp's speakers into the other's ext sp jack. 1ohm, yyyikes. he was blowing output trannies every other gig practically. but hey what the hey, the guy can afford it!

[jetlag]

I agree with Pete. I wouldn't do it with a super reverb. For any of you that own old tweed or early tolex fenders beware. Those rules of 100% mismatch up and down being okay with fenders are for the amps with Schumacher transformers. The tweed stuff and some early tolex amps have triads, which can tolerate nothing! Don't chance it and just run the specified impedance of the amp. Pretty much anything from about '64 on it's fine.

Regarding the wall 'o tweed (sound check during the day, deluxe and bandmaster w/ spot reverb then bassman and pro with a bf reverb):

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g237/jetlagslim/WallOTweed.jpg


http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g237/jetlagslim/MeJuniorLee.jpg

[jetlag]

I felt bad not including this pic as well. Junior is waiting for food while Noel (NMontz) is sitting behind him - my guess is he's trying figure out how to ask Junior " Hey, how did you do that lick in the Hucklebuck??"

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g237/jetlagslim/JuniorwaitingforDinner.jpg

[jumpnblues]

My good buddy, Dennis Morlan, from Dallas played bass with Lee (not sure if it was full-time) when he (Dennis) lived in Kansas City. Moved to Dallas a few years ago and played bass with Omar and the Howlers and more recently Randy McCallister. He was supposed to go on the road with Mike Morgan when Mike decided to hang up gigging for awhile. I understand Mike is gigging some again. I have all of Lee's and Mike's CD's too. Love Lee's gritty voice and great harp playing. It'd be fantastic to see Lee and Anson get together, but Lee seems to be really tied to the Kansas City/ Lawrence, Ks. area.


Tom

[jumpnblues]

"[Hmmm...... well, AC - If the output transformer of the amp calls for a 16-ohm speaker then the most power it can transfer will be with a 16-ohm speaker. All things being equal (ie. speaker magnet, cone, voice coil, efficiency, etc), using an 8-ohm speaker will mean a little bit of a cut in output power and volume.]"


Well, you can see how much I know about it! I thought less ohms meant less resistance, therefore more power going to the speaker, all other things being equal. An electronics genius and tech I ain't.:jo:jo


Tom

[zappafrank]

Hey Guys---I really appreciate ALL the input---thanks!

I guess w/ this 'variable', special transformer, the standard beliefs might be a bit challenged---but I sure do NOT want to blow the trannies in that amp! hmmmm---I'll have to investigate further and try to talk to Baier, I think...

Thanks!---great pics of Watson and Tweed!

ac

[RickyKing]

[quote=jetlag;3836902]I agree with Pete. I wouldn't do it with a super reverb. For any of you that own old tweed or early tolex fenders beware. Those rules of 100% mismatch up and down being okay with fenders are for the amps with Schumacher transformers. The tweed stuff and some early tolex amps have triads, which can tolerate nothing! Don't chance it and just run the specified impedance of the amp. Pretty much anything from about '64 on it's fine.

Regarding the wall 'o tweed (sound check during the day, deluxe and bandmaster w/ spot reverb then bassman and pro with a bf reverb):

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g237/jetlagslim/WallOTweed.jpg
:crazyguyWow,amp porn.....

[Poppa Stoppa]

Forget the tweeds, I want one o' them dragon shirts.

[Poppa Stoppa]

Did you record that night Jetlag - how did all that glorious tweed sound?

[KBR]

How about those Pink/Diamond Drums!

[OldSchool]

With the Tweed amp Porn, Checker table cloths and the barbeque sign in the back..........That's definitely a place I wouldn't mind having Lunch at!http://www.thegearpage.net/board/images/icons/icon14.gif

[FLICKOFLASH]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=x2nXtHULx8I



http://youtube.com/watch?v=LddX4OVxccQ&feature=related

[Goldie295]

Forget the tweeds, I want one o' them dragon shirts.



Poppa I think you are right - cancel that bowling shirt order...and does anyone have a copy of Kung Fu Weekly?!?!

:crazyguy

Is it just me or do you think old ladies cross the road these days when they see Jr walking home from a gig at night...

Cheers,
Phil

[Schwalbe]

Forget the tweeds, I want one o' them dragon shirts.
All those Hawiian bowling shirts gone to waste. Do you suppose they'll end up on the island of misfit Bluesman shirts?

How about those Pink/Diamond Drums!
:drool

[jetlag]

How did it sound? A lot better when Junior was playing it as opposed to myself.

Re. Pink drums: Like they say, "It takes a real man to play pink drums ......."

The pink drums are nothing compared to the kit Scott Campbell (Willie's brother) had, back when he used to play with us. It was a snare, the biggest bass drum imaginable, and a floor tom, all covered in white fur. He later covered it in black fur and called it mank (as in mink with an accent or a cross between mink and stank, I was never quite sure). I miss Scott - he's still with us, I just never get to see him anymore.

[jetlag]

My good buddy, Dennis Morlan, from Dallas played bass with Lee (not sure if it was full-time) when he (Dennis) lived in Kansas City. Moved to Dallas a few years ago and played bass with Omar and the Howlers and more recently Randy McCallister. He was supposed to go on the road with Mike Morgan when Mike decided to hang up gigging for awhile. I understand Mike is gigging some again. I have all of Lee's and Mike's CD's too. Love Lee's gritty voice and great harp playing. It'd be fantastic to see Lee and Anson get together, but Lee seems to be really tied to the Kansas City/ Lawrence, Ks. area.


Tom

I know Dennis - he also played in another band I'm in here in KC. Great bass player and a great guy. Wow, I wondered what happened to Dennis.

[mikelaw]

i could use an eminence 15 too!

[jumpnblues]

I know Dennis - he also played in another band I'm in here in KC. Great bass player and a great guy. Wow, I wondered what happened to Dennis.


Yeah, I was in his wedding and that's the last time I saw him in person. He used to talk about gigging with "Little Hatch". We talk on the phone occasionally and email one another. We're both from that blues Mecca...Ottumwa, Ia.
I talk to Anson on the phone quite a bit too but it's been over a month since our last visit. Haven't talked to him since he started gigging with Darrell.


Tom

[Strat-O]

AC and Sideman - My reconed 50's P15N was too dark in my Regal II. Just couldn't get enough top end. Sounded killer though. I've been using a reissue C15N in mine for about the last year. I've got a reissue P15N I'm going to try for a little while to try and save some weight...when I get a chance to put it in. AC you should call Marc Baier and talk to him directly about your amp. Its too nice of an amp not to get the straight story. Plus Marc is a really nice guy and willing to answer questions.


Lee McBee does have a totally cool voice. Jetlag sounds killer as does the whole band. Jetlag knows how to get great tone out of all those amps!

[Strat-O]

Speaking of great tone and tweed amps. What do all you fellas recommend doing to a 5E3 amp? What rectifier do you use? 6L6 or 6V6? Speaker? etc.

Thanks!!!!

[jetlag]

Strato - my deluxe is an old one w/o a standby switch so I like to use an industrial version of a 5Y3 that is indirectly heated. This gives the amp a slow warmup which makes it easier on your power tubes. I think this recto tube I'm talking about is a 6087, but I'd have to check that for sure. For power tubes, I got lucky and it came with blackplate RCAs. I really like the greyplate RCAs too.

The old deluxes and many of the newer ones run high enough plate voltages to not really need a higher B+ recto, but I would probably use a 5V4 if I were looking to kick things up a notch. You need to watch your electrolytic cap's voltage ratings as well as the 6V6's cathode bias resistor to make sure you don't over dissipate the tubes. Really, going with an efficient speaker eliminates the need to try and run the amp hotter. At least for me.

For speakers, I like to use either a blue celestion alnico, an old old P12P or old P12N speaker. I'm thinking about slapping this sweet old reconed C12Q in the amp that NMontz was kind enough to give me.

[jumpnblues]

I have a question too so I'll get in line behind Strat-O...

Anyway, what do you guys use for a power conditioner/AC hum reducer? My house AC is a little noisy. I currently use a Furman Power Conditioner which does nothing about reducing hum. I changed from the AC plugin on our south wall to the west wall which reduced hum by at least 50% and I then used a two prong adapter which reduced it another 25%, which almost eliminated all hum. I was just wondering if there was some sort of power conditioner or "magic box" that would also reduce hum.


Tom

[Strat-O]

Jetlag - Cool, thanks. You ought to post a clip of that Watson birthday show. Both you and Watson had killah tone (and chops).


Watson said he used a Deluxe with 6L6's to record Nemeth's "Come and Get It". Man do I love that album.
:JAM

[valcotone]

I have a question too so I'll get in line behind Strat-O...

Anyway, what do you guys use for a power conditioner/AC hum reducer? My house AC is a little noisy. I currently use a Furman Power Conditioner which does nothing about reducing hum. I changed from the AC plugin on our south wall to the west wall which reduced hum by at least 50% and I then used a two prong adapter which reduced it another 25%, which almost eliminated all hum. I was just wondering if there was some sort of power conditioner or "magic box" that would also reduce hum.


Tom


Tom, are you plugging the guitar directly into the amp or do you have any other devices (reverb tank, pedalboard, etc) between them? Just one amp right? When you moved to a different plug, did you also move the amp and location of where you're standing/facing? That can all make a difference...

[valcotone]

Jetlag - Cool, thanks. You ought to post a clip of that Watson birthday show. Both you and Watson had killah tone (and chops).


Watson said he used a Deluxe with 6L6's to record Nemeth's "Come and Get It". Man do I love that album.
:JAM


Strat-O, I'll second all of those remarks!!

[jumpnblues]

Tom, are you plugging the guitar directly into the amp or do you have any other devices (reverb tank, pedalboard, etc) between them? Just one amp right? When you moved to a different plug, did you also move the amp and location of where you're standing/facing? That can all make a difference...


I left the amp sitting in the same spot. I'm going to an Uncle Spot reverb tank and then direct to the amp. I "faced Mecca" to get the lowest noise possible. It's either a house current hum/ground problem, or possibly a noisy power strip? If it's a strip the solution's simple. OTOH, if it's the house I was just wondering if there's anything that will "filter" it out? Thanks.


Tom

[valcotone]

Tom - Do you get the same hum without the Uncle Spot in the loop?

[jumpnblues]

Tom - Do you get the same hum without the Uncle Spot in the loop?


Yes. And I changed all the preamp and power tubes in my amp and re-biased, although I don't think the amp a tube change. I've been able to pretty much rule the amp or reverb tank out as far as contributing to the hum problem. It really makes a difference which outlet I plug the amp into. If I plug the amp and reverb tank into the south outlet I get a very noticeable increase in hum...in the west outlet it almost completely disappears. So, based on that I was curious if there is any device (other than a noise gate, that is) that would eliminate hum when such a problem arises?


Tom

[valcotone]

Tom - I was fishing to see if you had a ground loop, but it doesn't sound like it since you get it with just guitar and amp... I use an Ebtech Hum-X to kill hum with amp+tank or multi-amp setups. So, I don't know what might help with your hum, sorry!

[jumpnblues]

Tom - I was fishing to see if you had a ground loop, but it doesn't sound like it since you get it with just guitar and amp... I use an Ebtech Hum-X to kill hum with amp+tank or multi-amp setups. So, I don't know what might help with your hum, sorry!


Hey thanks anyway, valcotone. I appreciate the effort. But I think I have the hum problem in my house figured out. I'll just use the outlet on the west wall LOL!! Seriously, that has pretty much eliminated my hum problem at home. My house has always had a noisy circuit. I'll occasionally even hear the same noises coming through my amp and stereo speakers simultaneously and they're on separate wall outlets and at opposite ends of the room. Go figure.


Tom

[Short Bus]

So, I know I'm dense. I recently picked up John Hammond's Long As I Have You CD. And I'm listening and being blown away by everything-the guitar, the harp, the bass, the drums, John, etc. I finally look at the liner notes and its Little Charlie company! Well, d'uh!

In case you haven't heard this, get it! Learn it! Know it! Live It! It goes right next to the other thousand plus CDs that get mentioned here as desert island stuff.

OK, I'm getting back on the bus now.

[Short Bus]

One more thing-after the talk about the CDs that won't be available for much longer I splurged on the BB King Vintage Years box, Jimmy McCracklin's The Modern Recordings, Gene Phillips Drinkin & Stinkin, both the Roy Hawkins CDs and Johnny Guitar Watson's Hot Like TNT CDs.

I know. My credit card is hurtin' bad!

Tons of new stuff to listen to. Thanks Mr. Pusherman! :crazyguy

[Goldie295]

Okay techie query for the techies on this board (I guess that would be most of you ;) ).

From time to time I have mentioned a pet project of mine to create a box the size of a 60s Tube Reverb which has both a Tube Reverb and a Champ built-in (no speaker). It all runs off of one transformer. Knobs are:

Input Jack, Drive (with push pull for Hi/Low input), Dwell, Tone, Mix, reverb/drive/both switch, Output Jack.

The idea is you can slave out of it into - say - a Bassman and get gig volume with the sound of a small amp (a la Rick Holmstrom).

Well the box works a treat save for a few annoying things. Firstly, there was a huge volume drop. We added an extra tube to get the volume up but got issues with the drive ‘oscillating’ creating a tremolo effect (nice but not the plan). So we dropped that but still had the huge volume loss. I suggested dual outputs with one for drive and one for reverb. These could then be blended between the bright and normal inputs of the Bassman. My tech liked the idea but said it could be easily done with one Output Jack and a stereo lead. Job done – the volume drop has now gone as has the need for an extra tube and the oscillation.

So, the final problem I have is an audible buzz coming out of the Bassman when it is rigged up. The buzz can’t be heard when playing, but between songs it is very annoying. The weird thing is the fact it seems to increase/become more prominent when I turn the volume down on the guitar (I am hoping this will rings bells with one of you). Having come so far with this little project, I a loath to ditch it, but we just can’t work out how to get rid of the buzz.

Is this just a ground loop or is it something else. I didn't used to get it with just the Reverb. It has only happened since the Champ was squashed into the box.

Can anyone help???

Cheers,
Phil

[Poppa Stoppa]

Originally Posted by mikelaw http://img.thegearpage.net/board/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?p=1590190#post1590190)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=x2nXtHULx8I


Small mystery solved - how did Watson get his raging Bassman tone on this gig. This is the clip of Wilson, Watson, et al playing Tiger man in Germany in 2002. The guy that supplied the amps has added a comment that the Bassman had master volume.

[TwoFeets]

So I did sort of an impulse buy last night on a Robert Cray Strat. The price was right and I think I can even make a few bucks on it if I don't end up bonding with it. Anybody else have experience with them? I know Nick used to have one.

Nice clip of the Kim Wilson/Jr Watson Rogaine Blues Revue!

Love,
Two Feets, No Hair

[Goldie295]

So I did sort of an impulse buy last night on a Robert Cray Strat. The price was right and I think I can even make a few bucks on it if I don't end up bonding with it. Anybody else have experience with them? I know Nick used to have one.

Nice clip of the Kim Wilson/Jr Watson Rogaine Blues Revue!

Love,
Two Feets, No Hair

Feets,

If you mean the MIM Cray strat then I do have some experience of it. Along with the Jimmie Vaughan MIM strat I think it is one of Fender's best. Next up would be the Eric Johnson strat. After that I honestly think you are looking at a '54 Relic or Masterbuilt quality to see any real difference. There is loads of discussion out there (Fender Forum etc) about the MIM Cray and whether it has the CS versions pups in it.

For me the MIM Cray with a mod to enable the second tone to control the bridge pup is a great, great strat. I also like the fact it is a hardtail which obviously helps with sustain, tuning and multiple bends etc...

Hope you get on with it.

Cheers,
Phil

[dukeh62]

Hey guys,

Just read that Candye Kane has been diagnosed w/ possible pancreatic cancer. Full story here: http://www.candyekane.com/news.html

Unfortunately, like too many wonderful musicians, she is without health insurance, and it looks like she's gonna need some help with medical bills. She is taking donations via Paypal (http://www.paypal.com)...her account email is candyekanetour@aol.com.

Candye has been out there working hard for a LONG TIME to keep this great music alive. Would be nice if we could each pitch in a few bucks for her.

[blueskalle]

nmontz: If I should be i Kansas city on a saturday I'll make shure to make that stop!

That cancercrap really sucks! My mom and aunt got the verdict last week and almost on the same day:-(... IT SUCKS!!!
Thankfully we got a pretty good social security over here that handles the econmical part of it.

Now i'm off for a two hour drive with some pals to see Little Charlie & the Nightcats in Gothenburg!:BEER
Kalle

[straightblues]

HEY GOLDIE295. Here is a thought. I might be way off base.

The guys that make the ABY boxes deal with this grounding problem all of the time. I would see if you could get on the phone with one of the builders of them or look up schematics for an ABY box. They might have the answer.

I bought my ABY from this guy. He is small and might be able to help you over email or phone. http://www.loop-master.com/product_info.php?products_id=40

[Strat-O]

Don't want to be Captain Obvious here Jumpnblues but have you checked the grounding in the whole circuit that those outlets are on in your house?

And, I guess you know that some amps just pick up noise more than others. At home, some of my amps hum like crazy and others are totally quiet.

[valcotone]

'Feets - I think the hardtail MIM Robert Cray is a great guitar.... mine was a beautiful sunburst and weighed in at 6.5lbs. The neck is great: 9.5" radius, fatter than most production Fenders, medium jumbo frets, nice rosewood board, vintage hardware, .... I liked it so much I bought another Cray strat just for the neck and parted out the rest. I eventually sold my first one but based on that experience I am putting together another partscaster that will be a hardtail. That 2nd neck is still on a partscaster I use all the time at our rehearsal space. So, yeah - thumbs-up for the MIM RC Strat!

[TwoFeets]

Thanks for the replies guys. It was kind of a tossup between a JV and an older small headstock highway one for a while but for some reason the Cray caught my eye. Which is funny because I'd been leaning towards a maple board, but these really looked like a good value.

I'm a little unsure as to whether I'll dig the hardtail or whether it might not be cool to have a trem model since none of my other guitars have one, but we'll see.

[Stringmaster]

Do you Victoria II users/owners find that they lack the headroom and power for gigging, where say a BF Vibrolux/Tweed Bandmaster/Pro would be just about right? I've tried them in stores a couple of times, and while they sounded good, they seemed to be more like playing an amp under 20 watts, and I felt that it wouldn't cut it live in a 5 piece--but not sure what the tube setups were. I gotta have some clean headroom! Thanks

[Strat-O]

Do you Victoria II users/owners find that they lack the headroom and power for gigging, where say a BF Vibrolux/Tweed Bandmaster/Pro would be just about right? I've tried them in stores a couple of times, and while they sounded good, they seemed to be more like playing an amp under 20 watts, and I felt that it wouldn't cut it live in a 5 piece--but not sure what the tube setups were. I gotta have some clean headroom! Thanks

are you talkin' about the Regal II? been gigging mine for three years from the biggest to the smallest venues and outoor ampitheatres. P90's for everything.

[jumpnblues]

Don't want to be Captain Obvious here Jumpnblues but have you checked the grounding in the whole circuit that those outlets are on in your house?

And, I guess you know that some amps just pick up noise more than others. At home, some of my amps hum like crazy and others are totally quiet.



I haven't checked the house grounding and I wouldn't be surprised if it's an issue. I think a lot of corners were cut on wiring the house. The original owner personally built the house, so the entire construction wasn't the most professional job I've seen...not necessarily poor, just not a very professional job. The outlet in the south end of the house has always been noisy regardless of what amp was plugged into it. Even the Victoria Pro I just sold would hum through that outlet, but not through any others. So, yeah, there is likely a ground issue with that outlet, if not the house.


Tom

[Strat-O]

That's a pretty easy problem to fix. I'd go that route first.:BEER

[Schwalbe]

I haven't checked the house grounding and I wouldn't be surprised if it's an issue. I think a lot of corners were cut on wiring the house. The original owner personally built the house, so the entire construction wasn't the most professional job I've seen...not necessarily poor, just not a very professional job. The outlet in the south end of the house has always been noisy regardless of what amp was plugged into it. Even the Victoria Pro I just sold would hum through that outlet, but not through any others. So, yeah, there is likely a ground issue with that outlet, if not the house.


Tom
Got one of these?
http://ak.buy.com/db_assets/prod_lrg_images/561/10361561.jpg
http://www.buy.com/prod/3_LED_PLUG_IN_CIRCUIT_TESTER_WIRING_STATUS_OF_120V _OUTLET_5_15/q/loc/101/10361561.html

[Stringmaster]

are you talkin' about the Regal II? been gigging mine for three years from the biggest to the smallest venues and outoor ampitheatres. P90's for everything.

I was talkin' Regal !!, and thanks for the feedback Strat-O. DD

[TwoFeets]

I thought you guys might be interested in a short article a local entertainment magazine just did on Leroy Cooper.

http://www.smokintorps.com/OLarticle08.pdf

Unfortunately my days of playing in a regular gig with Leroy are about to come to a close; I gave notice to the Smokin' Torpedoes that as of the end of April I will be leaving the band to spend more time with my family and concentrate on our new business. I'll be doing gigs now and then with the Ramblers, one or two a month, and maybe starting a side/solo recording project.

[jumpnblues]

Got one of these?
http://ak.buy.com/db_assets/prod_lrg_images/561/10361561.jpg
http://www.buy.com/prod/3_LED_PLUG_IN_CIRCUIT_TESTER_WIRING_STATUS_OF_120V _OUTLET_5_15/q/loc/101/10361561.html



That's pretty cool. I may just have to have one of those. Thanks Strat-O and Schwalbe.


Tom

[Goldie295]

are you talkin' about the Regal II? been gigging mine for three years from the biggest to the smallest venues and outoor ampitheatres. P90's for everything.

This might explain the volume differences:

"The Regal II is designed around an custom bifilar output transformer that is essentially two discreet transformers driving a common speaker load. This allows for the use of any combination of common 8 pin power tubes - from a single 6V6 delivering 5 watts of pure class A power, to two EL-34's for 35 watts. And because each tube is relating to its own independent transformer winding and bias resistor, any combination of different tubes types can be auditioned. Whether it be a single 6V6 or 6L6GC or a combination of the two (yes that's right, a 6V6 and a 6L6GC at the same time) the Regal II never needs biasing or adjustments when changing tubes. This versatility is also extended to rectifier tubes; the Regal II can accept any common 5 Volt rectifier including 5Y3, 5V4, 5U4, and 5AR4 with no adjustments nessessary."

Cool pic alert:HERE (http://www.harmony-central.com/ProductImages/Large/000006042.jpg)

Cheers,
Phil

[S.W.Erdnase]

Gentlemen of the jury...

Does anybody know anything about Otis Spann's "You're Gonna Miss Me When I'm Gone"? It's on a compilation called "We're Gonna Boogie". Anyone know the session date, who the musicians were, who wrote it? Spann is just great and the guitar is SICK.

It's a KILLER tune, that's for sure.

[fretshop]

Gentlemen of the jury...

Does anybody know anything about Otis Spann's "You're Gonna Miss Me When I'm Gone"? It's on a compilation called "We're Gonna Boogie". Anyone know the session date, who the musicians were, who wrote it? Spann is just great and the guitar is SICK.

It's a KILLER tune, that's for sure.


Otis Spann, Johnny Young, Luther Johnson, Peter Malik, S.P. Leary,
Victoria Spivey

I'm a bad boy Spivey LP-1013
You're going to miss me Spivey LP-1013
when I'm gone
Going back home Spivey LP-1013

Some more good Otis Spann:

I have the original "Blues Jam In Chicago" LP series 1 & 2 on Blue Horizon, later re-named and re-issued as Fleetwood Mac in Chicago. Great piano work...AND vocals by Mr. Spann there as well. I used to see Ralph Bass from Chess records quite a bit back in the 70's, and he along with a mutual pal named Jeff Prine turned me on to the records. I'm looking at the jacket of volume #1 right now : credits : Recorded at Chess Ter-Mar studios. We'll skip Fleetwood Mac and go right to the good stuff : David "honeboy" Edwards, Buddy Guy, Willie Dixon, Walter "shakey" Horton, Otis Spann, S.P. Leary and J.T. Brown....Nuff said ? The liner photos show the guitars blowing out of what looks to me like SF Princeton Reverbs....the jacket is a little worn so I could be wrong.

[RickyKing]

Luther & Peter Malick...a great combo...P.M. has the coolest carved old Strat you ever seen!

[fretshop]

Luther & Peter Malick...a great combo...P.M. has the coolest carved old Strat you ever seen!

AMEN !!

BTW: One thing about Luther that always stuck with me...he could coax some nasty tone out of the strings with just his right thumb and index finger. I have tried the sans pick method...other than some finger picking and country work sprinkled in during the evening,....I can't handle it all night. Luther and Morris Holt had this way of playing with both the flesh, and the nail side of the fingers ... kind of a back and forth picking technique. Today, we have a spectacular guitarist / vocalist out of my area named Saron Crenshaw who uses the technique. Look out for Saron...check his "My Space" etc.

[mr tom]

AMEN !!

BTW: Luther and Morris Holt had this way of playing with both the flesh, and the nail side of the fingers ... kind of a back and forth picking technique.

Slim uses both thumb- and fingerpicks. Never seen him play bare-fingered.

[KBR]

We have some streaming Guitar instructional (not that any of you need it) @ this site...
Helps KBR from having to look for a day gig!

http://redoakmusic.com/manufacturers.php?manufacturerid=6

[Birdseye]

Spammy, but thought someone here might want first crack. Looks like I have one old Hershey bar H44 type pickup I'm going to have to sell. PM me if you're interested.

[fretshop]

Slim uses both thumb- and fingerpicks. Never seen him play bare-fingered.

I have

[TwoFeets]

Wow, double spammy.

Some time within the next 72 hours I'm going to be placing my '51 ES350 up for sale, so if anyone here might be interested, again, first crack.

[fretshop]

Philly Reuinion Gang:

Memorial show for late Petey Vegas tomorrow night, 3/21/08 at Tierney's Tavern, 136-138 Valley Road, Montclair, NJ. 973-744-9785. You'll get to hear the Tremblelux in action once again.

Should be a momentous event.

[jimfog]

Jim, I thought you had a 70 in your deluxe (?)

haha....me, too!!!

Turns out I have a G12H-80!

As I mentioned, it's an odd choice for a Deluxe, but boy, it sure works!

[jimfog]

He was a truly wonderful young man !!! A very kind and personable fellow....his spirit and outlook were warm and bright in a cold and dark world. Such a cool guy...Pete loved to play his drums. He drove around in a 70's Coupe De Ville with his rig in the trunk...and a box of expensive cigars on the seat...always ready for a gig. He tried to enjoy his life to the fullest, and was one of the best swing and shuffle drummers I had ever had the pleasure to work with. He kept remarking to me that couldn't wait to get back to Jerzee's to hang out with the "Philly Reunion Crew". Pete really enjoyed meeting all of you. We're dedicating the upcoming Military Families fundraiser "Help For Heros" to him.

George,

Really sorry to hear that......I only met Pete briefly at the Jerzee's gig, but he seemed like a great guy.

Please hoist one tomorrow for me!

- Jim

[S.W.Erdnase]

Otis Spann, Johnny Young, Luther Johnson, Peter Malik, S.P. Leary,
Victoria Spivey

I'm a bad boy Spivey LP-1013
You're going to miss me Spivey LP-1013
when I'm gone
Going back home Spivey LP-1013

Some more good Otis Spann:

I have the original "Blues Jam In Chicago" LP series 1 & 2 on Blue Horizon, later re-named and re-issued as Fleetwood Mac in Chicago. Great piano work...AND vocals by Mr. Spann there as well. I used to see Ralph Bass from Chess records quite a bit back in the 70's, and he along with a mutual pal named Jeff Prine turned me on to the records. I'm looking at the jacket of volume #1 right now : credits : Recorded at Chess Ter-Mar studios. We'll skip Fleetwood Mac and go right to the good stuff : David "honeboy" Edwards, Buddy Guy, Willie Dixon, Walter "shakey" Horton, Otis Spann, S.P. Leary and J.T. Brown....Nuff said ? The liner photos show the guitars blowing out of what looks to me like SF Princeton Reverbs....the jacket is a little worn so I could be wrong.

Man, this place is like Google with brains and good taste. Thanks for that, fretshop!

[TwoFeets]

Quick question - who played guitar for Charles Brown? (I'm not quizzing you, I don't know)

[jimfog]

Quick question - who played guitar for Charles Brown? (I'm not quizzing you, I don't know)

Early days it was Johnny Moore, I believe.

Toward the end of his career, his guitarist/bandleader was the fab Danny Caron. Check out his " Good Hands" cd for some sweet jazzy Blues.

[jimfog]

hey,

I'm checking out a new amp I REALLY like.

VVT Lindy Fralin model.

http://www.vvtamps.com/press.htm

It's like a perfect cross between a Tweed Pro and a BF Fender........very sweet, fat and refined. Really light and manageable, too, with excellent 'verb.

So far, I'm impressed.

[S.W.Erdnase]

Early days it was Johnny Moore, I believe.



Also Oscar Moore, Johnny Moore's brother, for a period.

[Scott Miller]

"...who played guitar for Charles Brown?"

Clarence Holliman was in there too, I think. At least so said Carol Fran.

Danny Caron is a local guy; I saw him with Charles Brown and with Floyd Dixon. If I ever get the discipline to go jazz, I think I would seek him out. He kills at straight-up blues as well.

[maxVsf]

"guitar for Charles Brown"


There was an album on Bluesway I don't have anymore... I think Mel Brown was the guitarist on that one?

[THINSOCKS]

Feets - If you dig Johnny Moore you should check out his group the Three Blazers (which early on featured Charles Brown as the "frontman") . There is a great double cd called "Los Angeles Blues" that has all the RCA sides during the time his brother Oscar (of Nat King Cole fame) was also in the group. Some way cool two guitar stuff.

[susudio]

Philly Reuinion Gang:

Memorial show for late Petey Vegas tomorrow night, 3/21/08 at Tierney's Tavern, 136-138 Valley Road, Montclair, NJ. 973-744-9785. You'll get to hear the Tremblelux in action once again.

Should be a momentous event.
George, missed you at the Franklin the other night. Mouse set up a memorial for Petey in the corner of the bandstand above the drum kit. It's on the wall over the drummer's left shoulder,... crossed drum sticks and the caption "Vegas' Corner".
Hope to make it to Tierneys some time Friday night.

[mr tom]

It isn't West Coast - rather, pure Chicago - but I haven't seen Eddy "The Chief" Clearwater's new CD mentioned here. Although it came out a couple weeks ago, I didn't get a chance to spend time with it until last night. It is fabulous. A very good collection of songs, almost all new ones from The Chief, who is singing great and playing his @ss off. Tones are happening, and there's even an acoustic number. Ronnie Baker Brooks produced and guests, respectfully, on a couple of songs. The recording has that hot Alligator sound, which doesn't move me, but the sessions were obviously smokin'. It's among the best discs I've heard recently, worth checking out.

[Ryguy]

My favorite Charles Brown album is "One for the Road" and it features Billy Butler on guitar playing some really sweet stuff, plus Houston Person on tenor! Great, great record.

[GOLDENSTRAT]

I have a New Orleans keyboard cd called "Keys to the Crescent City" featuring Charles Brown among others. He plays a killer version of "Nobody Knows the Trouble I've Seen" that changes grooves and moods -it is amazing- way more interesting piano than I'd ever heard from him before. Even if you just Itunes that cut -highly recommended. fred

[valcotone]

Jim- That Lindy Fralin amp sounds like a real clean machine... can you get any grit out of it at a reasonable volume? Which speaker is in the one you're checking out?

[jimfog]

Jim- That Lindy Fralin amp sounds like a real clean machine... can you get any grit out of it at a reasonable volume? Which speaker is in the one you're checking out?

Yeah....the descriptions make it sound like a 35LB Twin, no? That's a wee bit of hyberbole. It's not a West Coast "fart tone" amp,(that's not really my thing, anyway), but it's no JC-120 either.

Won't be able to tell for sure until I gig it, but it feels like it gives up the goods a bit without screaming. If it stays too clean, I may bring along a set of 6V6's to crunch up earlier.

The interesting thing is, even at REALLY low volumes, it has a nice fat, warm sustain thing going on...........doesn't thin out when you have to set it up to whisper. That's really rare, IMO.

This is an '06 model with the Weber Alnico.......apparently the new Emi they use has more headroom and is a bit brighter.........not necessarily something I'm looking for. Only drag is, with the Weber in there, the tolerances are TIGHT........have to run short-bottle 6L6's, the others won't fit.

The upside is, it's lighter than my Deluxe, even!

- Jim

[susudio]

Has anyone played/heard this Dean archtop? It looks like it could be a killer with the 3 p 90's. And it is very affordable..
Sorry if this is off the current topic but this is giving me a case of GAS! :drool

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Dean-Palomino-Electric-Guitar?sku=511933

[Dave Orban]

Has anyone played/heard this Dean archtop? It looks like it could be a killer with the 3 p 90's. And it is very affordable..
Sorry if this is off the current topic but this is giving me a case of GAS! :drool

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Dean-Palomino-Electric-Guitar?sku=511933

You mean this one?

http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/4/2/2/229422.jpg

Your link is not showing up, for some reason...

[jimfog]

Has anyone played/heard this Dean archtop? It looks like it could be a killer with the 3 p 90's. And it is very affordable..
Sorry if this is off the current topic but this is giving me a case of GAS! :drool

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Dean-Palomino-Electric-Guitar?sku=511933

I played one up at Coyle's music in Richboro, Pa. a few weeks back.

It was a contender...........good quality, fit and finish......P90's sounded nice. Negs were the typical scrawny overseas neck and frets and I didn't dig the strat-style switching.

If I hadn't picked up that Eastwood Tuxedo, I would have been tempted.

- Jim

[TwoFeets]

I played a couple at the local Sam Ash. I wasn't impressed at all.

[pete kanaras]

a "retro" loking guitar designed by a company that caters exclusively to rockers, surprise surprise. waddya expect? that headstock is butt ugly, and a 5way switch on an archtop?!? and 1 volume and 1 tone on a 3pup archtop is just a dumb move, imo. it ain't a strat

it absolutely astounds me that none of these guitar companies(eastwood,'harmony", dean, etc)trying to cater to guys like us don't ever bother to solicit our opinions as to what makes an given instrument "work" for what we want. harmony/eastwood solids with dinky necks that weigh a ton? it is idiotic. i betcha that thing has a shredder neck too.

that thing is off the wall....

[jumpnblues]

a "retro" loking guitar designed by a company that caters exclusively to rockers, surprise surprise. waddya expect? that headstock is butt ugly, and a 5way switch on an archtop?!? and 1 volume and 1 tone on a 3pup archtop is just a dumb move, imo. it ain't a strat

it absolutely astounds me that none of these guitar companies(eastwood,'harmony", dean, etc)trying to cater to guys like us don't ever bother to solicit our opinions as to what makes an given instrument "work" for what we want. harmony/eastwood solids with dinky necks that weigh a ton? it is idiotic. i betcha that thing has a shredder neck too.

that thing is off the wall....


So, Pete...did ya' like it? ;) :messedup LOL!!!


Tom

[jumpnblues]

Early days it was Johnny Moore, I believe.

Toward the end of his career, his guitarist/bandleader was the fab Danny Caron. Check out his " Good Hands" cd for some sweet jazzy Blues.


Killer CD by a killer player.


Tom

[jumpnblues]

Also Oscar Moore, Johnny Moore's brother, for a period.


Wow!! I didn't know Oscar and Johnny were brothers? That was one talented family...one brother with Charles and the other with Nat King Cole. And both of 'em monster players.


Tom

[Scott Miller]

"Oscar and Johnny were brothers"

Both are great. You hear a lot of Hollywood Fats in Johnny Moore, or vice-versa. Oscar was the jazzier of the two but he could play killer blues. There are a couple of live Floyd Dixon tunes where he plays this distorto-matic bitchen blues with jazz figures in it... a jazz-blues fusion that actually works. "Baby Let's Go Down to the Woods" is one of the tunes.

There's a double CD called "Johnny Moore's Three Blazers" on the Westside label which has both of them, and is an encyclopedia of cool jazz/blues moves. (Disclaimer: It also includes a healthy dose of highly cheesy and nearly unlistenable cocktail pop. I'm a huge Charles Brown fan, but even I get weary of his gooshy vocal delivery, but the Charles Brown imitators, of which we hear on this CD, sometimes just cross right over into sapsville.)

Anyway, if you're looking for those cool chord/note combinations (flat 6 of the root over the IV and whatnot), that CD set is full of them, and it has enough bitchen stuff to counteract the more sappy offerings.

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There's a double CD called "Johnny Moore's Three Blazers" on the Westside label which has both of them, and is an encyclopedia of cool jazz/blues moves. (Disclaimer: It also includes a healthy dose of highly cheesy and nearly unlistenable cocktail pop. I'm a huge Charles Brown fan, but even I get weary of his gooshy vocal delivery, but the Charles Brown imitators, of which we hear on this CD, sometimes just cross right over into sapsville.)

Anyway, if you're looking for those cool chord/note combinations (flat 6 of the root over the IV and whatnot), that CD set is full of them, and it has enough bitchen stuff to counteract the more s