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fretshop
04-09-2008, 09:17 AM
arnie's right bro. btw if you want to sell that rocket give me a shout
I'll e-mail you with the particulars.
'56 Merc
04-09-2008, 09:31 AM
Fretshop,
If it's that nice I wouldn't use it as a project either. I have a '67 Bandmaster that wasn't in the best of shape and made it into a great sounding combo.
I did the phase invertor coupler to a .001 that Schwalbe suggested.
Bypassed the diode rectifier stack , wired in a tube socket and used a Weber 5U4 copper cap. Put in a Bassman output transformer. Put the chassis in a brown 3X10 cabinet with two Weber 10A125's and a Weber 10F125 on the bottom. Topped it all off with a Vintone brown face plate and cream knobs.
It is one great sounding 2X6L6 amp. Teles, Strats and P-90s, it loves them all with no pedals.
Strat-O
04-09-2008, 11:17 AM
I have a mint on mint '65 BM head that I installed a Hoffman tranny in some time ago...still sounds lousy, and has piss poor gain...
Anybody have any ideas on how to make it come alive ?....I could let Lou do it...but that's too easy.
You told me one time about a blackface Bandmaster that KBR had modified for you or something like that. Is that right? I forget the details but you said it sounded killer. Turned it into something like a tweed or brown amp circuit. Is that right? You could always do that to it.
:banana :stir :warning :NUTS :messedup :puh :) :mob :bow :phones
WTF is all that? :)
Scott Miller
04-09-2008, 12:02 PM
Chris has been a busy boy, getting those clips out there. That was recorded recently, and Rusty Zinn is on there too.
fretshop
04-09-2008, 12:26 PM
You told me one time about a blackface Bandmaster that KBR had modified for you or something like that. Is that right? I forget the details but you said it sounded killer. Turned it into something like a tweed or brown amp circuit. Is that right? You could always do that to it.
:banana :stir :warning :NUTS :messedup :puh :) :mob :bow :phones
WTF is all that? :)
That was a '65 Bassman head that Paul Gagon did. It was stolen
I have had Bandmaster heads sound pretty good, a Bassman (Mojo Multi Tap OPT can do that, My latest BM head, is a 1969, I think they are about 40 watts. They come alive on volume 7, or 8. Depends on speakers, I guess. I run 2 Weber VST 12A150's aka P12N's. and thanks, to Monster Freakin Mike, a verbzilla reverb pedal...(It sounds pretty good, imo) Thanks, MMW.
The Brown Sugar head, I like better, but Jammers tend to turn Amps on and off, and can blow em up, so I got this Bandmaster stock Head, and it is a good one.
I get the VibroVerb 64 clone Head in about 10 Days.
ymmv,
Scott Miller
04-09-2008, 01:00 PM
Hey KBR, who's making that VibroVerb clone?
blueskalle
04-09-2008, 01:01 PM
What do you guys think of a Gibson Ga8T Discoverer-63? Would it be a nice gig-amp?
Kalle
Dave Orban
04-09-2008, 01:05 PM
What do you guys think of a Gibson Ga8T Discoverer-63? Would it be a nice gig-amp?
Kalle
Not a lot of volume or headroom there. Great grind, though, and mic'd, you might be able to get away with it.
I actually used to use it as a harp amp, and it worked great for that. But for guitar, there's a lot of compression and sag present. If that sound works for you, then great.
I also think it sounds better with a more robust 12 than the stock speaker...
valcotone
04-09-2008, 01:05 PM
What do you guys think of a Gibson Ga8T Discoverer-63? Would it be a nice gig-amp?
Kalle
Kalle, I had a '64 GA-8T and couldn't sell it fast enough...thin weak tone. On the other hand, I've heard guys talk about how much they like this amp, but maybe it was the earlier tweed one like Dave has?
In any case, I don't think they have enough power for gigging.
I got the Vibroverb head from a builder on fleabay.
My Amp Guru, Ron Ott, said it looks great inside and he is meticulous, so since it had a Big OPT, I went for it, Big Output tranny's equal mucho cojones.
It is an 8 ohm, so I am going with the 4x10, maybe Weber P10Qs, on bottom and 2 P10R's on top, all blonde/wheat combo, ala 1964, Fender Electric.
I have owned a few 64 SR's and they sounded great. This will be similar, but easier on herniated discs in lower back. Piggy back's for me the rest of my Life.
A Fender Super Reverb is around 65-75 lbs in one arm, depending on speakers.
Stringmaster
04-09-2008, 01:36 PM
Spam: May be of interest here--I've just listed a Lollar P90, 5% underwound (neck), with north polarity--goes out-of-phase with other pickup, without any mods--of couse the flip side is that the standard in-phase middle position won't happen without a different wiring scheme. Thanks, Dana
fretshop
04-09-2008, 02:07 PM
I'm gonna get me a Gibson or Maestro GA-45 as soon as I can find a clean one. 4 x 8, Cathode Bias....tons of tone and great compression. I like the GA-45RVT Saturn version too.
blueskalle
04-09-2008, 02:40 PM
Well, maybe I should go for a Ceriatone 5e3-clone that is for sale nearby instead...:rolleyes:
S.W.Erdnase
04-09-2008, 04:21 PM
Rick Estrin and the Nightcats
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=362203226
Sweet. Even Big & Fat sounds like a new take with the new band. Love the LW-style instro.
Is there a new platter on the way? Estrin is one of my favorite players.
jimfog
04-09-2008, 04:52 PM
Mr. Orban......look-out for a phone call sometime soon.
I'm not gonna be able to gig for the next month or so, due to health issues, and Melissa needs a fill-in.
More info on that here:
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=378053&highlight=hernia
In fact, if you're not available or interested in any/all of them, we might be looking for someone else, as well. Anyone have any ideas?
Admittedly, a barely trained monkey could take my place..........but it has to be a trained monkey with STYLE.......lol.
BTW.....40 sucks.....I've been wanting a vacation for a while, but not like this.
:puh
- jim
pete kanaras
04-09-2008, 05:46 PM
Estrin is one of my favorite players.
estrin IS my favorite player, all harp player cracks aside. has been for a long time too. rick and guyger are both right at the very top, for my taste.
RickyKing
04-09-2008, 07:18 PM
Mr. Orban......look-out for a phone call sometime soon.
I'm not gonna be able to gig for the next month or so, due to health issues, and Melissa needs a fill-in.
More info on that here:
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=378053&highlight=hernia
In fact, if you're not available or interested in any/all of them, we might be looking for someone else, as well. Anyone have any ideas?
Admittedly, a barely trained monkey could take my place..........but it has to be a trained monkey with STYLE.......lol.
BTW.....40 sucks.....I've been wanting a vacation for a while, but not like this.
:puh
- jim
Sorry for your trouble,Jim.
Strat-O
04-09-2008, 07:18 PM
Why are 5E3's so dark sounding?
Schwalbe
04-09-2008, 07:20 PM
Mr. Orban......look-out for a phone call sometime soon.
I'm not gonna be able to gig for the next month or so, due to health issues, and Melissa needs a fill-in.
More info on that here:
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=378053&highlight=hernia
In fact, if you're not available or interested in any/all of them, we might be looking for someone else, as well. Anyone have any ideas?
Admittedly, a barely trained monkey could take my place..........but it has to be a trained monkey with STYLE.......lol.
BTW.....40 sucks.....I've been wanting a vacation for a while, but not like this.
:puh
- jim
Wow, I sure hope you're going to be alright.
Scott Miller
04-09-2008, 07:36 PM
I got the impression, from a fly on the wall, that Estrin recorded a whole CD. I could be wrong, though. Chris has been doing a LOT of recording/production work, so Estrin hired the right guy for that. I'm curious to see if Chris applies his usual wacked-out production ideas on it, gunshots, babbling drunks, and so forth.
Scott Miller
04-10-2008, 02:26 AM
Speak of the devil. Hummel hosted the jam tonight, with Rusty, and who should drop in but Rick and The Kid. It was great to see Rick as just another guy in baggy jeans and untucked shirt, blowing his ass off on the harp.
Also, my favorite singer, Carol Fran was there too.
zappafrank
04-10-2008, 02:40 AM
Get betta, jimfog! I'm truly grateful for having healthcare, lately--- take care---
ac
S.W.Erdnase
04-10-2008, 03:52 AM
Estrin is one of my favorite players.
estrin IS my favorite player, all harp player cracks aside. has been for a long time too. rick and guyger are both right at the very top, for my taste.
Well music ain't sports but, yeah, Estrin would be at the top for me, with Oscher and Wilson.
dukeh62
04-10-2008, 07:18 AM
Mr. Orban......look-out for a phone call sometime soon.
I'm not gonna be able to gig for the next month or so, due to health issues, and Melissa needs a fill-in.
More info on that here:
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=378053&highlight=hernia
In fact, if you're not available or interested in any/all of them, we might be looking for someone else, as well. Anyone have any ideas?
Admittedly, a barely trained monkey could take my place..........but it has to be a trained monkey with STYLE.......lol.
BTW.....40 sucks.....I've been wanting a vacation for a while, but not like this.
:puh
- jim
Get well soon Jim!
fretshop
04-10-2008, 07:21 AM
Estrin is one of my favorite players.
estrin IS my favorite player, all harp player cracks aside. has been for a long time too. rick and guyger are both right at the very top, for my taste.
Ditto...Just watch that linoleum knife.
fretshop
04-10-2008, 07:30 AM
Jim, You'll be fine...it's a relatively straightforward procedure. Been through it, as have several of my friends.
Dave Orban
04-10-2008, 07:49 AM
Jim, You'll be fine...it's a relatively straightforward procedure. Been through it, as have several of my friends.Ditto.
And 40...? Dude, you ain't seen NOTHING yet. :jo
LOL!
RickyKing
04-10-2008, 08:16 AM
Ditto.
And 40...? Dude, you ain't seen NOTHING yet. :jo
LOL!
+1000
nc slim
04-10-2008, 08:23 AM
Hummel,estrin, salgado and Zinn will be going thru fla soon
RickyKing
04-10-2008, 08:28 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250232927316&indexURL=0&photoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting
Crazy...But someone must have all the parts!
straightblues
04-10-2008, 09:47 AM
Thinking about buying an early silver face Twin. I am tired of going to blues jams and not having enough power and being drowned out. I have been playing lower watt tweed stuff but want the power and low end of a Twin. I figure I will use a Ghetto Stomp or Clark Gainster in front of it for tweed tones. I may even put my old (rick holmstrom type) Supro with a line out in front of it. Talk me into it or out of it please. I am getting a really good deal on the amp ($450) so I could likely get my money back out of it quickly if it didn't work. Share your experience.
How about a Silverface Super with Weber Speakers?
Twins about 80-110 lbs, depending on speaks. I had a 66 w/ ev's it was a handful!
Like wrestlin a Gator
Goldie295
04-10-2008, 10:50 AM
I have found (after using one pretty much every Thursday at a jam night over the past five years) Silver Face Twins will do the early Lowell Fulson thing (similar to the tone Chris Thomas King got in the film "Ray") if you set them up right:
Vibrato Channel Input 1; bright switch on; treble off; mid on full; bass on 3; master volume on full (or disconnected); reverb off; vibrato off. Set the guitar volume (best with a hollowbody) low (think 2-4) and the tone also low (again 2-4). Get the amps volume as high as you can. At around 3-4 during a gig you should find the guitar feeding back (assuming it is a hollowbody) if you let go of the bass strings. Once you are there, subtle or not so subtle picking etc is the order of the day and will determine the amount of hair on the notes. No need for the pedals.
By the way, do one set like that without the reverb and then turn it up for the next. I reckon you won't like the reverb. Certainly your audience will wonder how you lost all your tone/cut by having a beer and a fag during the break.
Reverb - for me - is like having sugar in your tea. You take it like that in the early days while your tastebuds are being broken in but then you stop and have your tea without. A year later someone makes you a cuppa and puts sugar in it by accident and after spitting it out you wonder how you ever used to drink it like that.
Cheers,
Phil
jimfog
04-10-2008, 10:52 AM
Jim, You'll be fine...it's a relatively straightforward procedure. Been through it, as have several of my friends.
Thanks George....and all of you!
I'm not really worried about the surgery....in fact, I wish I could have it NOW.
It's all the waiting around, and gigs that I"m missing.
No "workman's comp" for gigging musicians, as we all know.
Oh well.....I'll quit my bitching.
jumpnblues
04-10-2008, 10:56 AM
Kenny's right. The silverface/blackface Twin Reverbs sound fabulous but you'd better be young, big/strong or both. Casters help but you'll still have to lift it. A used Vicky Bassman would do the job and be at least 20 lbs lighter. However, I'll have to admit, a good sounding Twin is something to behold. If you do decide to brave the weight, IMHO a 100 watt Weber MASS would sound killer with a Twin Reverb and keep you from neutering the first two rows of people. I've found a Weber MASS really smooths the top end of blackface/silverface style amps like my and I'm bettin' it would sound killer with a Twin Reverb. JMHO, YMMV.
Tom
fretshop
04-10-2008, 11:32 AM
Kenny's right. The silverface/blackface Twin Reverbs sound fabulous but you'd better be young, big/strong or both. Casters help but you'll still have to lift it. A used Vicky Bassman would do the job and be at least 20 lbs lighter. However, I'll have to admit, a good sounding Twin is something to behold. If you do decide to brave the weight, IMHO a 100 watt Weber MASS would sound killer with a Twin Reverb and keep you from neutering the first two rows of people. I've found a Weber MASS really smooths the top end of blackface/silverface style amps like my and I'm bettin' it would sound killer with a Twin Reverb. JMHO, YMMV.
Tom
Heavy ? You want heavy...?
During the late 80's, we were on the road with The Broadcasters and Sonny Rhodes. At times, a certain individual was in no condition to hoist his Twin Reverb, which was loaded with enormous Altec speakers. Jerry Portnoy and I ususally wound up shlepping that thing around....man, that thing was obscenely heavy. We wound up installing wheels on it. It was a great sounding amp, but at the decibel levels Ronnie was used to performing at even in small venues....it could make the air bleed.
Dave Orban
04-10-2008, 11:35 AM
Oh well.....I'll quit my bitching.Oh... like THAT'll ever happen... :jo
LOL!
TwoFeets
04-10-2008, 12:08 PM
Heavy ? You want heavy...?
During the late 80's, we were on the road with The Broadcasters and Sonny Rhodes. At times, a certain individual was in no condition to hoist his Twin Reverb, which was loaded with enormous Altec speakers. Jerry Portnoy and I ususally wound up shlepping that thing around....man, that thing was obscenely heavy. We wound up installing wheels on it. It was a great sounding amp, but at the decibel levels Ronnie was used to performing at even in small venues....it could make the air bleed.
No, no - heavy - do YOU want heavy?
Back in the early, early days of my playing guitar, I knew just a few things about amplifiers.
A) tube amps sound better than solid state amps
B) Fender is a good brand of tube amp
C) "Twin" rings a bell as a familiar, famous model name.
So, while in Daddy's Junky Music in downtown Boston, I spotted... a used tube amplifier called a "Fender Super Twin." I bought it for $375.
180 watts through SIX (count em) 6L6's. 2 x 12" JBL speakers. That amp must have weighed 100 lbs. Two of us used to have to carry it in and out of my drummer's basement.
Echo Are
04-10-2008, 12:13 PM
Thinking about buying an early silver face Twin. I am tired of going to blues jams and not having enough power and being drowned out. Share your experience.
A Twin is an awful lot of amp to lug to a blues jam IMHO. Definitely not a grab-n-go amp:D. You could try putting neodymium speakers in it, but I don't think those alone would lighten the load too much. How about a bigger tweed, like a Pro or Super repro/re-issue/style?
Dave Orban
04-10-2008, 12:15 PM
A Twin is an awful lot of amp to lug to a blues jam IMHO. Definitely not a grab-n-go amp:D...Yeah, you'd probably end up like Fogarty, after just a couple gigs... :jo
Echo Are
04-10-2008, 12:17 PM
So, while in Daddy's Junky Music in downtown Boston, I spotted... a used tube amplifier called a "Fender Super Twin." I bought it for $375. 180 watts through SIX (count em) 6L6's. 2 x 12" JBL speakers. That amp must have weighed 100 lbs. Two of us used to have to carry it in and out of my drummer's basement.
How about that amp's "distortion" circuit?:rollI've read articles about how hilariously awful it sounded.
jimfog
04-10-2008, 12:20 PM
Yeah, you'd probably end up like Fogarty, after just a couple gigs... :jo
Charming, handsome and talented???????
Dave Orban
04-10-2008, 12:21 PM
Charming, handsome and talented???????...and, apparently, delusional...
LOL!
jimfog
04-10-2008, 12:25 PM
So, while in Daddy's Junky Music in downtown Boston, I spotted... a used tube amplifier called a "Fender Super Twin." I bought it for $375.
180 watts through SIX (count em) 6L6's. 2 x 12" JBL speakers. That amp must have weighed 100 lbs. Two of us used to have to carry it in and out of my drummer's basement.
Ha!
My 1st tube amp, too..........
When I brought it in to Jim Walton for a retube (like $500.....lol), he shook my hand and said:
"Congratulations, Son........you managed to find the heaviest, loudest and WORST sounding Fender tube amp ever made.........."
I felt a certain pride.
I always struggled to get a decent tone with that beast, but one night, at a country line dance, it sounded GOOD. Really singing. Middle of the night, I stepped up for a solo, started wailing, and the place went NUTS!!!! Everyone was staring at my musical genius with rapt attention.....yeah, I was smokin'.
errrrr......no......it was because the "Super" Twin had literally burst into flames behind me!
:roll
TwoFeets
04-10-2008, 12:35 PM
errrrr......no......it was because the "Super" Twin had literally burst into flames behind me!
:roll
LOL! After a while I considered lighting that amp on fire ON PURPOSE!
I remember it has a useless 5-band EQ on it, and a built in thing called "Distortion" which when you activated it, automatically made the amp sound like you'd just sliced both speakers multiple times with a kitchen knife.
At the time though, I used so many effects in the chain, it didn't really matter. I think my rig was a Super Metal pedal and a Boss GE7 EQ pedal, and I also ran an ART Multiverb LT in there somehow.
jimfog
04-10-2008, 12:41 PM
LOL! After a while I considered lighting that amp on fire ON PURPOSE!
I remember putting it out in the trash after that, I was so sick of it, and seeing a guy pull up, rubbing his hands with GLEE, he was so excited to be finding a free FENDER TWIN!!! WOW!!!!!
All I could think of was the Squeeze Box that gets passed around in that book "Accordion Crimes", shortly followed by tragedy after tragedy.
valcotone
04-10-2008, 12:55 PM
Speak of the devil. Hummel hosted the jam tonight, with Rusty, and who should drop in but Rick and The Kid. It was great to see Rick as just another guy in baggy jeans and untucked shirt, blowing his ass off on the harp.
Also, my favorite singer, Carol Fran was there too.
Good lord, Scott you're lucky to have local jams like that! And I bet nobody played Stormy Monday or Red House too, right? :crazyguy
Scott Miller
04-10-2008, 04:35 PM
"Good lord, Scott you're lucky to have local jams like that! And I bet nobody played Stormy Monday or Red House too, right?"
We have those kinds of jams too.
Actually, Hummel was auditioning a drummer, the prepation for which was something like "Learn everything on this Little Walter CD." So they pretty much played wall-to-wall Little Walter. Great stuff for the harp players, and great for the guitar players too, with Rusty going by the book.
In general, the pros in this area are very accessible and generous, a very good thing for those of us who are still figuring out how to play this stuff.
straightblues
04-10-2008, 04:47 PM
I have been playing guitar for 20 years and never owned a Twin. I guess it is time. I am going to go for it. I have a lot of other low power amps so I will use it only when I need power or just don't trust the folks I am playing with. I am sure you have all been there. The cleans are really nice and I tend to play on the cleaner side any. God help my back.
I kinda hate twins, except #538 Tweed Twin I should have kept.
traded it & #0077 Broadcaster, for '60 Red ES335 & 66 SR.
what a Dummy!
sethr
04-10-2008, 04:59 PM
I hate 'em, too.
Short Bus
04-10-2008, 05:33 PM
Hummel,estrin, salgado and Zinn will be going thru fla soon
Rusty won't be with Hummel when he's in fla next week. Anybody know who's on guitar then?
BTW
jimfog - Best Wishes for a speedy recovery. Been down that road. And the waiting is definitely the hardest part!
Stringmaster
04-10-2008, 05:43 PM
Rusty is supposed to be with Hummel tomorrow night (Fri) here in San Diego. I planning to go to hear them, and to sit in on a couple with the opening band. I figured he'd bring Junior in since he lives nearby (and did last time), but he might not be around. But then Rusty was with the Harp-o-rama show he did down here too.
valcotone
04-10-2008, 06:01 PM
I have been playing guitar for 20 years and never owned a Twin. I guess it is time. I am going to go for it. I have a lot of other low power amps so I will use it only when I need power or just don't trust the folks I am playing with. I am sure you have all been there. The cleans are really nice and I tend to play on the cleaner side any. God help my back.
God help you (and your back)! :-)
I sold a minty fresh 1967 Super Reverb because I could never use the volume.
You must be playing some decent size stages to let a Twin breath (which sort of tells you where I'm playing... your average dive bar, some pubs, and the occasional local festival stage). :drink
(just had to use that new icon)
mr_jlemko
04-10-2008, 07:28 PM
"Good lord, Scott you're lucky to have local jams like that! And I bet nobody played Stormy Monday or Red House too, right?"
We have those kinds of jams too.
In general, the pros in this area are very accessible and generous, a very good thing for those of us who are still figuring out how to play this stuff.
I knew I was gonna regret missing that one last night. I had car problems and some other stuff going on.
I got to jam with a cat named Scott Miller on Monday night and Kenny Blue Ray on Tuesday. I can't remember the last time I got to play Red House. I think it was when the hippies came out on a Tuesday. That was a lot of fun!
You are 110% correct. All of the pros around here have been really generous and supportive. We are really fortunate!
straightblues
04-10-2008, 07:53 PM
God help you (and your back)! :-)
You must be playing some decent size stages to let a Twin breath (which sort of tells you where I'm playing... your average dive bar, some pubs, and the occasional local festival stage). :drink
(just had to use that new icon)No not really, just playing in too many situations when a Tweed Deluxe, BF Deluxe or little Supro won't cut it. I am tired of fighting volume wars and not being heard in these situations. So it will only be rolled out when I can't control the other players I am playing with. For all real gigs with people who understand dynamics the small amps cranked will be used. :BluesBros:JAM
valcotone
04-10-2008, 07:57 PM
OK, you'll have to keep us posted on your experiences with the Twin.
I hope you get a chance to slave your Supro Supreme out to it... that'll be good fun!
Strat-O
04-11-2008, 12:29 AM
Thinking about buying an early silver face Twin. I am tired of going to blues jams and not having enough power and being drowned out. I have been playing lower watt tweed stuff but want the power and low end of a Twin. I figure I will use a Ghetto Stomp or Clark Gainster in front of it for tweed tones. I may even put my old (rick holmstrom type) Supro with a line out in front of it. Talk me into it or out of it please. I am getting a really good deal on the amp ($450) so I could likely get my money back out of it quickly if it didn't work. Share your experience.
talk you out of it? ok!
Are you crazy?! they weigh a ton and you'll never get it loud enough to enjoy any dynamics unless you're playing big ass venues. there must be something between a Deluxe and a Twin that would work better.
last time I saw chris andersen he used a red knob twin...by choice. Said he loved it. not exactly tone to die for imho but, it didn't matter, he played so outrageously great he blew the whole joint away!
sideman
04-11-2008, 06:21 AM
Yeah, there's alot of amps in the spectrum between 18w and 100w. Try a 38 w amp. Twins suck unless you're playing really loud, or like really clean tone. Country players like them. You won't find any of the compression or overdrive that most blues players thrive on. A Pro Reverb is a really loud amp at half the wattage.
fretshop
04-11-2008, 06:58 AM
No, no - heavy - do YOU want heavy?
Back in the early, early days of my playing guitar, I knew just a few things about amplifiers.
A) tube amps sound better than solid state amps
B) Fender is a good brand of tube amp
C) "Twin" rings a bell as a familiar, famous model name.
So, while in Daddy's Junky Music in downtown Boston, I spotted... a used tube amplifier called a "Fender Super Twin." I bought it for $375.
180 watts through SIX (count em) 6L6's. 2 x 12" JBL speakers. That amp must have weighed 100 lbs. Two of us used to have to carry it in and out of my drummer's basement.
We used one with Collins one night at The Lonestar...that amp was truly the toxic spwan of a demented individual at Fender. Albert was using one of his Showman head / Cabinet deals. At the other end of the band stand, Margolin, Andy Masilli and I had to take turns playing out of "the refrigerator". God, I hope I never see one of those...or hear one again....insane, sterile volume and tone.
fretshop
04-11-2008, 07:05 AM
I don't think ANY of you guys would like the Gibson GA-45 or the GA45RVT...it sounds kinda like a slightly compresseed 3 x 10 bandmaster, and only sounds good with cheap harmony guitars, H-44s, H-62s and the like...and oh yeah...Teles as well....so don't waste your time looking for one. You won't like it.
I'm just looking for one for parts....nothing else.
fretshop
04-11-2008, 07:17 AM
Harp Players !!! Check e-bay
53 Danelectro leader amp w/ rola j-12 spkr all orig
Item number: 290221837474
jetlag
04-11-2008, 08:22 AM
Hey Fretshop - I didn't know you were interested in a GA45. I traded mine to Lee. It was pretty beat up, rewound PT and was a white tolex Maestro GA45RV - reverb only. With the four alnico jensen 8's. I never really used it for guitar but plugged into it before giving it to him and was amazed at how good it sounded with a P90 goldtop. Bitchin' ass tone - I would describe it as a cross between a real mini super reverb and a brown deluxe. Cool amps for sure.
fretshop
04-11-2008, 09:44 AM
Hey Fretshop - I didn't know you were interested in a GA45. I traded mine to Lee. It was pretty beat up, rewound PT and was a white tolex Maestro GA45RV - reverb only. With the four alnico jensen 8's. I never really used it for guitar but plugged into it before giving it to him and was amazed at how good it sounded with a P90 goldtop. Bitchin' ass tone - I would describe it as a cross between a real mini super reverb and a brown deluxe. Cool amps for sure.
I thought that was our secret.
Once you get that baby into the sweet spot with those four 8" speakers, man....P-90s and Teles sing....unbelievable. I also used it with an ES330 and an ES 350...total jump blues mojo. The amp is also a harp player's dream.... I like the RV better than the RVT. I think it has a little more balls....that's just to my old ears. The tremelo is very cool though.
I just wish I could find one that isn't trashed.
The Dano Challenger is also a REAL sleeper. One of my freinds has one OEM with a C-15N
jumpnblues
04-11-2008, 10:41 AM
A bedtime story from "Grandpa Tom"...I remember walking into my friendly neighborhood music store (great store for pro and semi-pro combo musicians) in the early 90's and walking past an amp that I'd walked past countless times over the previous 2 or 3 years, when the owner of the store commented he had a Tele he wanted me to try out. Well, I looked around for an amp and being a smallish store he was sold out of decent tube amps except for the one I always walked by and thought would make good land fill material. Anyway, kind of bummed out, I very reluctantly plugged into "the landfill material" and started to play. And by the time I had played about ten or so notes I was repeating under my breath, WTF? This can't be? Am I hearing right? No way thing thing could actually sound good?!!! Nahhh!
I played some more and sure enough my ears were hearing right. I had the amp set for light overdrive, just a little hair around the notes. The amp sounded very warm and the "clean sustain" I had dialed in had a very smoooooth grinding edge with great top end harmonics...a sort of cross between a cleanish to lightly overdriven Matchless and Bad Cat (today's comparison, Bad Cat didn't exist then). The cleans were typical for the amp (very good), but no PCB amp I'd played ever sounded like that. I thought "This just can't be! Nobody ever told me about this." I'd never read about it in magazines, no "star" ever endorsed it.
Although a couple years later a well known blues/jazz artist would reveal he often used one...Yep, you guessed it. Robben Ford and the "red knob" Twin Reverb. I came very close to buying it but just couldn't talk myself into a PCB amp. You know, I've owned some superb sounding/built amps...Matchless, Dr.Z, Victoria, Allen, and now 2 new Louis Electric amps, and if my memory has not been jaded over the years, that "red knob" Twin Reverb was very close to being in the same league as far as tone goes. It was the most surprising amp, by far, that I've ever plugged into. And it was my first lesson in PCB amps can sound pretty darn good, even with plastic shafted pots mounted directly on PCB board. If I had to play a gig with backline amps I'd breath a sigh of relief if I had a "red knob" Twin to play through compared to some of the other other possibilities. Plus, it's a master volume amp so you can harness the Twin's power in small venues and still sound decent. Maybe I just got hold of a really good one, maybe the tubes were just the right ones, maybe the components in this particular amp were highly compatible with one another, I simply don't know. One thing I do know is this one was a great sounding amp. My ears were right. Anyway, just an experience I had. Now if there was some relatively inexpensive way to convert a "red knob" Twin Reverb to a PTP amp and maintain the inherent tone...:drool:drool:cool::cool:
Tom
valcotone
04-11-2008, 11:01 AM
Harp Players !!! Check e-bay
53 Danelectro leader amp w/ rola j-12 spkr all orig
Item number: 290221837474 (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5335828753&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2FeBayISAPI.dl l%3FViewItem%26item%3D290221837474)
Cool looking amp! Field coil speaker too.
Be careful if you're nestling your lips up close to a mic plugged into one of these... it has no power transformer and I've heard you can get a nasty shock if the wall plug is oriented the wrong way - the tube lineup (35Z5GT and 50L6GT) is a giveaway for this.
valcotone
04-11-2008, 11:04 AM
I don't think ANY of you guys would like the Gibson GA-45 or the GA45RVT...it sounds kinda like a slightly compresseed 3 x 10 bandmaster, and only sounds good with cheap harmony guitars, H-44s, H-62s and the like...and oh yeah...Teles as well....so don't waste your time looking for one. You won't like it.
I'm just looking for one for parts....nothing else.
Man, that doesn't sound like anything I'd like AT ALL! :crazy
hahahaha.....kidding. If I see one I'll let you know. :BEER
pete kanaras
04-11-2008, 11:16 AM
If I had to play a gig with backline amps I'd breath a sigh of relief if I had a "red knob" Twin to play through
great amps, underrated imo. i'll tell you another biiig surprise was that recent bf "deluxe", the one with the deeper cab, trem and halfpower switch. i tried one out at a jam the last time i was in minneapolis and i was Very impressed, and it was at half power. a WAY cool modern amp, if one fell into my lap cheap i'd grab it in a second
michael30
04-11-2008, 11:58 AM
I saw Mick Taylor play through a red knob twin at a Wentus Blues Band gig a few years ago. He sounded excellent.
Poppa Stoppa
04-11-2008, 01:29 PM
Here's a harp swing tune for the weekend for ya - a friend of mine who is a great harp player. Check out 'Monkey Lips' on his myspace site:
http://www.myspace.com/leesankey
Scott Miller
04-11-2008, 01:47 PM
A clip from the afore-mentioned jam with Estrin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjnVUrGaC7I
On bass, Frank DeRose, a world-class bass player, one of the Gary Smith/Robben Ford/Etc. crowd who kicked things off in the South Bay, blues-wise. The drummer is Mick Kilgos, one of those unknown dudes who comes out of nowhere at a jam and you think "Damn... where did he come from?"
Echo Are
04-11-2008, 05:30 PM
I'd never read about it in magazines, no "star" ever endorsed it. Although a couple years later a well known blues/jazz artist would reveal he often used one...Yep, you guessed it. Robben Ford and the "red knob" Twin Reverb. --Tom
I remember seeing full-page ads for the red knob Twin with Robert Cray back in the late-'80s. The amp was in the foreground, Robert was standing a few feet away, digging into a Strat(don't recall if it was his signature Strat; probably was), an extreme "guitar face" pasted on his mug. The headline read, "When you're cookin', use the right ingredients." I'm not sure if Robert used the red knob Twin, live or in the studio.
Swingblues
04-11-2008, 07:42 PM
Hey guys,
I´ve posted some videos of Rick Estrin Tour with my band in Brazil:
- Handle with Care:
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=7s2w0SV29LM
- Slow in D:
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=DVjAGSDIehc
- Lw´s Groove:
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=BCPMKsFOy_4
- Rick and Bass Player:
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=pqQBGEx0Mhs
All the best!
Igor Prado
S.W.Erdnase
04-11-2008, 08:15 PM
Great stuff Igor!
No one gets those sweet trills like Estrin on the first chorus of LW's groove. He must be using tongue-flutters or something.
[/harp nerd technical comment]
S.W.Erdnase
04-11-2008, 08:17 PM
What was he blowing through, out of interest?
Dave Orban
04-11-2008, 10:04 PM
Hey guys,
I´ve posted some videos of Rick Estrin Tour with my band in Brazil:
- Handle with Care:
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=7s2w0SV29LM
- Slow in D:
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=DVjAGSDIehc
- Lw´s Groove:
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=BCPMKsFOy_4
- Rick and Bass Player:
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=pqQBGEx0Mhs
All the best!
Igor PradoFABulous, Igor! :dude
Swingblues
04-11-2008, 10:48 PM
- Keep it to yourself:
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=h-vWVlD-weY (http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=h-vWVlD-weY)
- When your woman is gone:
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=wJm0WAlqcK8 (http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=wJm0WAlqcK8)
-Off the Wall:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLiq6k5x6lE
ALL THE BEST!
IGOR PRADO
pete kanaras
04-12-2008, 08:22 AM
most excellent igor, danke
jumpnblues
04-13-2008, 07:52 AM
Wakin' up to Anson, Sam, and the boys "Rack 'Em Up". Tremendously underrated CD. I'll bet I've had it for 15 years, played it a gazillion times and didn't realize how rich Anson's bridge pu sounds. He's more known for that sweet sounding mid pu but, man, that bridge pu sounds rich too. Great playin' and singin' on that CD. Not West Coast stuff but great, great, blues just the same. Man, I wish Anson was playing around here this afternoon. What better way to spend a Sunday afternoon than listening to Anson and the Rockets layin' it down live? :bandI got the blues really bad today...and that's good! :cool::cool:
Tom
sethr
04-13-2008, 10:09 AM
All those Anson CD's stand the test of time, for me. I can always listen to any of them and enjoy them. They never get old.
jumpnblues
04-13-2008, 11:22 AM
For anyone interested I posted a review on my new Louis Tremblelux on the Louis Electric forum.
Tom
bluesjuke
04-13-2008, 04:09 PM
Good, cause we're not interested in hearing about great gear that gives killer tone and all that here- LOL!
Seriously, what's the link?
I'd like to read all about it.
jumpnblues
04-13-2008, 10:04 PM
Good, cause we're not interested in hearing about great gear that gives killer tone and all that here- LOL!
Seriously, what's the link?
I'd like to read all about it.
Well, umm, let's see...www.louisamps.com. Is that how you do it? Never posted a link before. :jo :confused:
Tom
bluesjuke
04-14-2008, 01:06 AM
That was close enough.
Here's a direct link to your thread;
http://louisamps.net/board/viewtopic.php?t=68
bluesjuke
04-14-2008, 02:18 AM
Originally Posted by Swingblues http://img.thegearpage.net/board/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?p=3968043#post3968043)
Hey guys,
I´ve posted some videos of Rick Estrin Tour with my band in Brazil:
Igor, you guys always do it just right!
GOLDENSTRAT
04-14-2008, 08:52 AM
Saw John Nemeth and Jr. Watson 3 times this last week. Great shows, slim crowds though. They are touring through the midwest next, check Nemeth's website for the schedule. Watson was playing his strat and stratotone. Nemeth keeps getting better each year I see him, pulled out "Sweet Sixteen" and wailed , with my eyes shut it was like hearing a mid 20's B.B. King. Bob Welsh on bass and Marty Dobson on drums are great too. Lots of good drum fills and accents and some bass solos, too. fred
sethr
04-14-2008, 10:02 AM
I saw John and Junior a while back. One of the best shows ever. John's coming to the New York State Blues Fest in July, and I really hope he brings Junior.
This festival is going to be great, no matter what. I highly recommend it to anybody anywhere near Syracuse.
John Nemeth
T-Birds
Jimmie Vaughn/Lou Ann Barton
Anson F. with James Harman
Toni Lynne Washington
Nappy Brown
Rebirth Brass Band
Bruce Katz
bbarnard
04-14-2008, 10:24 AM
I saw Mick Taylor play through a red knob twin at a Wentus Blues Band gig a few years ago. He sounded excellent.
He uses one on the John Mayall 70th Birthday CD/DVD as well and also sounds incredible on it. Interesting contrasts in tone on that DVD, Mick with the red knob twin, Buddy Whittington with a Dr Z (and a Lentz) and Clapton through the Cornfords I believe.
Super4
04-14-2008, 10:47 AM
West Coast Blues would not be complete without mentioning The Charles Ford Band.There influence today is still felt through players like Chris Cain,and Andy Just,Only In there early twenties the three brothers Patrick,Robben,Mark along with Stan Poplin,and Michael Osborn took there West & East Coast Blues influence and supercharged it.If you have not listen to The Charles Ford Band album or CD 1972 Arhoolie Records you should,I never get tired of Robben Fords chops and Mark Ford blistering Harmonica playing.What ya treat, check it out Thanks Cheers Phill
Stringmaster
04-14-2008, 02:04 PM
I absolutely love Ronnie's tone (and playing) on this CD:
http://www.amazon.com/Feel-Like-Goin-Ronnie-Earl/dp/B00008J2PR/ref=pd_bbs_10?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1208199624&sr=8-10
I assume it's his standard Strat through a Super--but many of the tunes don't sound like a Super to me? Any info on this recording? Anyone know what kind of speakers he favors in his Supers? Thanks
fretshop
04-14-2008, 03:38 PM
I absolutely love Ronnie's tone (and playing) on this CD:
http://www.amazon.com/Feel-Like-Goin-Ronnie-Earl/dp/B00008J2PR/ref=pd_bbs_10?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1208199624&sr=8-10
I assume it's his standard Strat through a Super--but many of the tunes don't sound like a Super to me? Any info on this recording? Anyone know what kind of speakers he favors in his Supers? Thanks
Things may have changed, but the last time we worked with Ronnie was at an afternoon Blues Fest in the parking lot of The Barbary in Springfield, Mass, about four - five years ago. The Super he brought with him that day was loaded with what appeared to be two OEM ceramic CTS speakers, and two Celestion G10S-50's which are no longer made.
maxVsf
04-14-2008, 03:41 PM
West Coast Blues would not be complete without mentioning The Charles Ford Band.There influence today is still felt through players like Chris Cain,and Andy Just,Only In there early twenties the three brothers Patrick,Robben,Mark along with Stan Poplin,and Michael Osborn took there West & East Coast Blues influence and supercharged it.If you have not listen to The Charles Ford Band album or CD 1972 Arhoolie Records you should,I never get tired of Robben Fords chops and Mark Ford blistering Harmonica playing.What ya treat, check it out Thanks Cheers Phill
Phill
You might find that the folks who live on this thread don't have much love for Robben Ford or even Chris Cain. They are FROM the west coast, but their blues is not what people in this thread refer to as West Coast Blues. I am also a big fan of Robben and Chris as well as the "West Coast" style players. And I've heard Cain do some of the best T Bone Walker I've heard. They all have something to say. Read some of this huge thread, and you'll find more love here for the jump/swing style blues, and folks like Junior Watson and Charlie Baty. And learn a lot about this type of blues. Maybe we could start a new thread... West Coast but NOT "West Coast" blues...
I like to hear cats that can play. Like Sonny Boy said... call it what you wanna... call it yo mama if you wanna... :)
Strat-O
04-14-2008, 05:22 PM
Well it seems to me that Robben Ford and his crew were influenced more by Paul Butterfield (don't know where he's from) than the west coast blues artists that came BEFORE Butterfield and his crew including Mike Bloomfield.
I'm not much of a Robben Ford, Paul Butterfield, or Mike Bloomfield fan but the album Ford and his bro's did as a tribute to Butterfield is really good.
Surely Robben Ford listened to alot of classic blues artists including those who migrated west and settled on the west coast in the 30's, 40's and 50's. But if you listen to his tone and "blues" playing, you can hear that he came from the Bloomfield school. Which to me means he got it second hand rather than those who defined the style prior to the 60's.
Not a bad thing...he's a great guitar player loved by many. But even though he lives or came from California, I still wouldn't consider him a 'west coast' influenced guitar player...in the biblical sense of the style.
Just my own opinion. Doesn't mean that I'm right. :tapedshut
Scott Miller
04-14-2008, 05:29 PM
Well yeah, a little bit of Robben Ford goes a long way for me, but I really like Chris Cain. He's half the reason I got a 335 (the other half was Kieth Richards).
I didn't know Stan Poplin played blues; I used to hear him play jazz a lot.
maxVsf
04-14-2008, 07:00 PM
Strato - It isn't necessarily my desire to come on this thread and root for Robben Ford, although I've enjoyed him for many years. My personal gods happen to be BB King, Albert King, Freddie King, and Albert Collins. You speak of Robben and the influence of Mike Bloomfield and Paul Butterfield (who were from Chicago, BTW). Whether you like or dislike their music, they opened the door to the white blues scene. Many of our generation got turned onto the real thing that way. And Butterfield and Bloomfield weren't just learning their stuff off records, they were in Chicago playing with the real cats. And I mean Muddy, The Wolf and a bunch of others. So yeah, they were the first big influence supposedly on Robben. I don't get how you can say that he got it second hand? I think if you give him a listen, and on earlier stuff, there was a lot more than Bloomfield going on in his playing. A lot of jazz influence that not many others were incorporating at that point in time. And he worked with Jimmy Witherspoon enough that right there it should prove his blues credentials. And if you listen to the tribute to Bloomfield, Chris Cain plays all the note for note Bloomfield stuff (and kills!), Robben's solos are nothing like Bloomfield. You are right, he is not a 'west coast' influenced guitar player. But he has certain influenced a lot of west coast guitar players. I don't see any difference between someone getting turned on to the blues by Mike Bloomfield, than the ones who get turned on to it by Hollywood Fats or Junior Watson. All great players.
Sorry for the rant. I just think that in the historical sense, folks need to consider Butterfield and Bloomfield as important players. They paved the way for the others to break into a larger playing field by giving credit where credit was due.
Swingblues
04-14-2008, 07:33 PM
Sorry S.W Erdnase! hehehe...
Answering your question, Rick uses a vintage Black Face Super Reverb in some gigs in Brazil included in Harmonica Festival/Sao Paulo (youtube videos).
But I think the amp for Rick doesn´t matters, He´s a monster, have a BIG harp tone without amp!
All the best
Igor Prado
Goldie295
04-15-2008, 02:49 AM
Super4 & maxVsf,
Welcome to the West Coast thread. I don't think Robben Ford is really a 'West Coaster', though he does come from that region. I have a lot of his albums (from a previous life) and would rate 'Tired of Talking' as a song that helped to steer me in the West Coast direction.
Cheers,
Phil
S.W.Erdnase
04-15-2008, 03:33 AM
Sorry S.W Erdnase! hehehe...
But I think the amp for Rick doesn´t matters, He´s a monster, have a BIG harp tone without amp!
You're right! He sure does have THE TONE.
fretshop
04-15-2008, 07:09 AM
Posted by MaxVsf :
Sorry for the rant. I just think that in the historical sense, folks need to consider Butterfield and Bloomfield as important players. They paved the way for the others to break into a larger playing field by giving credit where credit was due.
Every time I spin "The Paul Butterfield Blues Band" I hear something in the production and the arrangements that I hadn't appreciated before. That bunch were very serious about what they were doing, and they hit the formula the first time around. Paul and I did not communicate much...hardly at all, and in many ways, it seemed to me...as an outsider, that he kept himself at arms length socially from the rest of the band. Mike took a liking to me, he tried giving me a few guitar lessons...with all the patience he could muster, and once gave me a Danelectro he had obtained at Dan Armstrong's shop on 48th st. (which is now on display at Anson Funderburgh's home studio) in lieu of payment for some guitar work. Mike was serious about his tone, Regretfully, I was too young, and too "Claptonized" at the time to fully appreciate and learn from what was apparent, and going on all around me. When I mentioned Clapton...my queries were met with nothing more than quizzical shrugs.
We went shopping for tweed and other obscure amps, stopping at Pawnshops and music stores all over Manhattan. I don't remember Michael actually commenting about a particular favorite amp, although he described what each model did best in his opinion. He further intimated to me that he favored "tired" (old, broken in) tubes. He finally persuaded me to let go of my new '65 Telecaster, look for an old one, and in the mean time...buy a '54 Gold Top (which I eventually traded to a family friend for his '63 ES-345). Mike, Paul, and Nick Gravenites were a walking encyclopedia of the mid west blues experience. I dutifully purchased a variety of LP's they suggested at Greenwich Village's Folk Lore Center, most of which I still have. Sadly though, It took me a couple decades to actually sit down in earnest, open my ears and appreciate what these people were doing for me. The Butterfield consortium inspired a entire generation of young musicians here and abroad. I wish I had accepted, and understood their message earlier.
Dave Orban
04-15-2008, 07:11 AM
Sorry S.W Erdnase! hehehe...
Answering your question, Rick uses a vintage Black Face Super Reverb in some gigs in Brazil included in Harmonica Festival/Sao Paulo (youtube videos).
But I think the amp for Rick doesn´t matters, He´s a monster, have a BIG harp tone without amp!
All the best
Igor Prado
Indeed!
bbarnard
04-15-2008, 08:38 AM
I'm not much of a Robben Ford, Paul Butterfield, or Mike Bloomfield fan but the album Ford and his bro's did as a tribute to Butterfield is really good.
It is indeed. The Bloomfield tribute is also stellar.
Stringmaster
04-15-2008, 11:15 AM
I think our early "roots" help define our later preferences. I grew up listening to BB, Bloomfield, Peter Green, etc in my early teens, and still have a "fondness" for them--it's all good!
Curious if anyone's played guitar through a boutique dedicated Harp Amp, like the Meteor. Seems like it might be a cool thing--typically lower gain, darker, etc, from what I understand. Might be good for "old school" sounds, but on the other hand...
valcotone
04-15-2008, 11:20 AM
Every time I spin "The Paul Butterfield Blues Band" I hear something in the production and the arrangements that I hadn't appreciated before. That bunch were very serious about what they were doing, and they hit the formula the first time around. Paul and I did not communicate much...hardly at all, and in many ways, it seemed to me...as an outsider, that he kept himself at arms length socially from the rest of the band. Mike took a liking to me, he tried giving me a few guitar lessons...with all the patience he could muster, and once gave me a Danelectro he had obtained at Dan Armstrong's shop on 48th st. ....[...]
fretshop.... do you ever plan on writing a book about your experiences like this? I'd buy a copy!
I would like to write a Book, with say 10 other long Time Musicians, in the Blues.
We could all retire and have some great stories to tell!
susudio
04-15-2008, 12:29 PM
Posted by MaxVsf :
Sorry for the rant. I just think that in the historical sense, folks need to consider Butterfield and Bloomfield as important players. They paved the way for the others to break into a larger playing field by giving credit where credit was due.
Every time I spin "The Paul Butterfield Blues Band" I hear something in the production and the arrangements that I hadn't appreciated before. That bunch were very serious about what they were doing, and they hit the formula the first time around. Paul and I did not communicate much...hardly at all, and in many ways, it seemed to me...as an outsider, that he kept himself at arms length socially from the rest of the band. Mike took a liking to me, he tried giving me a few guitar lessons...with all the patience he could muster, and once gave me a Danelectro he had obtained at Dan Armstrong's shop on 48th st. (which is now on display at Anson Funderburgh's home studio) in lieu of payment for some guitar work. Mike was serious about his tone, Regretfully, I was too young, and too "Claptonized" at the time to fully appreciate and learn from what was apparent, and going on all around me. When I mentioned Clapton...my queries were met with nothing more than quizzical shrugs.
We went shopping for tweed and other obscure amps, stopping at Pawnshops and music stores all over Manhattan. I don't remember Michael actually commenting about a particular favorite amp, although he described what each model did best in his opinion. He further intimated to me that he favored "tired" (old, broken in) tubes. He finally persuaded me to let go of my new '65 Telecaster, look for an old one, and in the mean time...buy a '54 Gold Top (which I eventually traded to a family friend for his '63 ES-345). Mike, Paul, and Nick Gravenites were a walking encyclopedia of the mid west blues experience. I dutifully purchased a variety of LP's they suggested at Greenwich Village's Folk Lore Center, most of which I still have. Sadly though, It took me a couple decades to actually sit down in earnest, open my ears and appreciate what these people were doing for me. The Butterfield consortium inspired a entire generation of young musicians here and abroad. I wish I had accepted, and understood their message earlier.
A few days ago there was a thread on the merits of Mike Bloomfield,
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=372513&highlight=bloomfield
The First Butterfield LP in 65, turned me on to Little Walter... a Good thing.
I prefer not so fast in Solo's...
YMMV,
groove_king
04-15-2008, 04:15 PM
Curious if anyone's played guitar through a boutique dedicated Harp Amp, like the Meteor. Seems like it might be a cool thing--typically lower gain, darker, etc, from what I understand. Might be good for "old school" sounds, but on the other hand...
S.W. has a new Meteor. I haven't had the chance to hear it yet (I'm bugging him to bring it to a session I want him to play on). I'm sure he'll post his observations as soon as he gets out of bed. :)
S.W.Erdnase
04-15-2008, 05:10 PM
S.W. has a new Meteor. I haven't had the chance to hear it yet (I'm bugging him to bring it to a session I want him to play on). I'm sure he'll post his observations as soon as he gets out of bed. :)
It's a great harp amp. I'm thinking it might also be okay for guitar. It has a Mid control that is a feedback trigger for harp. The builder told me he always leaves it on zero. So I'm thinking that circuit element comes from some guitar amp circuit and that he built the amp based on maybe an old Masco or something.
I have heard a live cut of a band where the guitarist went through the Meteor and the tone was tweed-ey. (The playing was meh, but the tone was okay). I'll take the amp to this session and Dave can give it a blat.
Years ago I bought a Sonny Jnr.1 for harp. Dave tried that and it was poo for guitar. I also thought it was poo for harp, but that's a whole 'nother story.
Back to the Meteor. It's got good barky tone and heaps of cut. It has crisp crunchy treble in the signal - although the bass response is solid. My "problem" is that I have a Clark Pro (I think it's a Super with 1x15) and the bass response on that is TO DIE FOR. I hate to say it, but I'm thinking of selling the Meteor already and getting another Clark - the Piedmont or the Tyger - to cover off larger gigs. The Pro is great for Medium size venues and I bought the 50 watt Meteor for larger gigs.
Nobody tell my wife, okay? She wouldn't understand.
:worthless
pete kanaras
04-15-2008, 05:26 PM
folks i sincerly apologise for being incoherent but i am at a complete loss for words here. sean costello was found dead in an atlanta hotel room late today. i got the call an hour ago. no cause was given as they're waiting for all the tests to come back. he would have been 29 in two days. he was my friend and i loved him dearly, and i am just shattered for this senseless loss, my god. those who knew him knew what a special soul he was. rest in piece my friend, you touched everyone with your talent and kindness.
this is just so so sad
jimfog
04-15-2008, 05:31 PM
folks i sincerly apologise for being incoherent but i am at a complete loss for words here. sean costello was found dead in an atlanta hotel room late today. i got the call an hour ago. no cause was given as they're waiting for all the tests to come back. he would have been 29 in two days. he was my friend and i loved him dearly, and i am just shattered for this senseless loss, my god. those who knew him knew what a special soul he was. rest in piece my friend, you touched everyone with your talent and kindness.
this is just so so sad
Wow.......that's just ****ing awful, Pete.
What a talented, amazing musician.
I'm really sorry for your loss.
- Jim
mouldynudger
04-15-2008, 05:33 PM
folks i sincerly apologise for being incoherent but i am at a complete loss for words here. sean costello was found dead in an atlanta hotel room late today. i got the call an hour ago. no cause was given as they're waiting for all the tests to come back. he would have been 29 in two days. he was my friend and i loved him dearly, and i am just shattered for this senseless loss, my god. those who knew him knew what a special soul he was. rest in piece my friend, you touched everyone with your talent and kindness.
this is just so so sad
I`m so sorry.
I`ve not posted in this thread before but I couldn`t be more shocked.
I heard about Sean through this thread.
What a huge talent.
What a terrible thing.
Damian.
valcotone
04-15-2008, 05:35 PM
This is the worst news. Freaking terrible. I met Sean at a show in Dallas once and he was kind enough to share a few minutes after the gig to talk music and gear with me. I really admire his recordings. What a damn shame.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pPmIPaWdChU
.
westchesterdave
04-15-2008, 05:45 PM
folks i sincerly apologise for being incoherent but i am at a complete loss for words here. sean costello was found dead in an atlanta hotel room late today. i got the call an hour ago. no cause was given as they're waiting for all the tests to come back. he would have been 29 in two days. he was my friend and i loved him dearly, and i am just shattered for this senseless loss, my god. those who knew him knew what a special soul he was. rest in piece my friend, you touched everyone with your talent and kindness.
this is just so so sad
So Sad...
Great Player, Great Talent.
Irreplaceable Loss.
Hope his soul finds peace.
mr tom
04-15-2008, 05:48 PM
the worst. a great friend, gone.
Guitarzan
04-15-2008, 06:03 PM
WTF! This is horrible. What a loss.
GOLDENSTRAT
04-15-2008, 06:09 PM
This is too sad. fred
Schwalbe
04-15-2008, 06:21 PM
folks i sincerly apologise for being incoherent but i am at a complete loss for words here. sean costello was found dead in an atlanta hotel room late today. i got the call an hour ago. no cause was given as they're waiting for all the tests to come back. he would have been 29 in two days. he was my friend and i loved him dearly, and i am just shattered for this senseless loss, my god. those who knew him knew what a special soul he was. rest in piece my friend, you touched everyone with your talent and kindness.
this is just so so sad
Wow!! This is terribly sad news. My condolences to all his family and friends. I met him once, a very nice young man and such an amazing talent.
Stringmaster
04-15-2008, 06:48 PM
I too am shocked--great talent, and way too young! Best thoughts to his family and friends through hard times. Dana
Strat-O
04-15-2008, 06:53 PM
its completely ****ed up. that's what it is. I cannot believe it!
bluesjuke
04-15-2008, 07:38 PM
Just reading post to post when I came to your's Pete.
Started reading nonchalantly and jumped out of my chair when it sunk in.
I'm so sorry to hear this most sad news.
Sean and his gift to the rest of us will be surely missed.
Dave Orban
04-15-2008, 07:40 PM
folks i sincerly apologise for being incoherent but i am at a complete loss for words here. sean costello was found dead in an atlanta hotel room late today. i got the call an hour ago. no cause was given as they're waiting for all the tests to come back. he would have been 29 in two days. he was my friend and i loved him dearly, and i am just shattered for this senseless loss, my god. those who knew him knew what a special soul he was. rest in piece my friend, you touched everyone with your talent and kindness.
this is just so so sadUnbelievably sad.
I've been listening to his "We Can Get Together" CD in my car all week.
God bless you, Sean.
Guitarzan
04-15-2008, 07:44 PM
As its sinking in I'm just more and more shocked. I'm the same age as him and I've known him a long time. Hard to believe someone so young with so much life left to live is gone.
Ryguy
04-15-2008, 07:49 PM
That is horrible, I don't what else to say. Such a wonderful talent, that was just getting better and better, and so young. I didn't know him, but feel as if a close friend just passed.
RIP Sean Costello.
Birdseye
04-15-2008, 08:03 PM
Sean was a good friend. Just too sad for words. It is the worst.
hahpin
04-15-2008, 08:23 PM
Real shocker about Sean Costello. I met him a few times, interviewed him and had fun hanging out with him at a couple of festivals.
Man this sucks. What a devastating loss for his family and the blues world
valcotone
04-15-2008, 08:50 PM
DeltaGroove has an acknowldgement on their site, I'm sure there will be more. : http://www.deltagrooveproductions.com/
Still can't believe it.
saggybottom
04-15-2008, 09:16 PM
Wow...I was going to see him this Sat. at the Northside Tavern...
He will truley be missed... such a huge loss to the music we love.
jumpnblues
04-15-2008, 09:40 PM
RIP Sean. Don't know what else to say.
TwoFeets
04-15-2008, 09:42 PM
Just devastating.
It is devastating,
What a Super talented Player and Singer, He will be missed.
I had one of his cds and dug it a lot.
God Bless Him,
Shades
04-16-2008, 12:19 AM
Simply horrible. A great loss.
Goldie295
04-16-2008, 03:12 AM
I have lost a few friends this week, people I have played with over the past few years.
Loosing Sean hits me just as hard. Only 29. I can not take it in.
I have been listening to Moaning For Molasses almost constantly for the past two months. I just can't get over how amazing his voice is on It Takes Time. It's like Otis Rush is in the room. IMO, his was the best blues voice of the new wave. I can't express how sad this is.
glblues
04-16-2008, 03:27 AM
oh my goodness.
i rarely post due to lack of time but this is too shocking. sean was a freaking great player! he could have only gotten better.
what a tragic loss of talent
safecracker
04-16-2008, 06:24 AM
Sad,Sad Day. R.I.P. Sean Costello. He was a incredibly gifted and inspiring musician who will be missed greatly.
RickyKing
04-16-2008, 07:04 AM
Just got the news, Had the pleasure of playing w/ Sean,
a sweet young guy, too much really....I guess the good do die young.:confused:
RIP...
afenderman67
04-16-2008, 09:41 AM
Rip
zappafrank
04-16-2008, 11:38 PM
wow....bad news indeed---RIP, Sean, and my condolences to all who knew him here---
ac
Goldie295
04-17-2008, 12:36 AM
There is a great recorded interview with Sean here (http://www.bluepower.com/2008/04/sad-replaysean-costellowe-can-get.html).
Cheers,
Phil
susudio
04-17-2008, 12:38 AM
Very sad indeed. Too talented and too young to be gone. RIP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPmIPaWdChU
bbarnard
04-17-2008, 08:19 AM
So sad about Sean. Here's info on services from his management company:
Arrangements for Sean Costello have been made and are below.
VIEWING:
Mayes Ward Dobbins Funeral Home
180 Church Street
Marietta, GA
Fri 6:00-9:00
FUNERAL:
Shrine of Immaculate Conception
48 Martin Luther King Jr Dr SW
Atlanta, GA 30303
(404) 521-1866
BURIAL:
Crest Lawn Memorial Cemetery
2000 Marietta Blvd NW
Atlanta, GA 30318
11:00 AM
FOUNDATION:
Sean Costello Foundation for Bi-Polar Research
Toby Ray @ BB&T: 678.384.0063 / tray@bbandt.com (tray@bbandt.com)
jawjatek
04-17-2008, 11:35 AM
Goodbye, Sean my friend. I will miss you. Thanks for your help and inspiration, and your music.
I went to Northside last night, but couldn't stay very long. My condolences to all his friends and family.
stevieboy
04-17-2008, 01:29 PM
Very sad. My best wishes to all his friends on this thread.
blueskalle
04-17-2008, 01:33 PM
R.I.P Sean
fretshop
04-17-2008, 02:17 PM
Bill Wax at XM Radio did a spectacular tribute to Sean Costello. I was caught in a 2 hour traffic jam, turned up to Bose system in my Avalanche and was mesmerized by this young man's genius as both a guitarist and a composer. I would have loved to have seen Sean collaborate with someone like Jeff Turmes on a project. RIP Sean.
I have spent all day searching for the three CDs : Sean Costello, Cuttin' In, and Moanin' or Molasses. Every place I've called, including Blue Beat, and every internet music site I've checked out are back ordered.
Sean Had it all goin for him,
A huge Loss for the World, I pray for Him & His Family.
jawjatek
04-18-2008, 10:37 AM
...I have spent all day searching for the three CDs : Sean Costello, Cuttin' In, and Moanin' for Molasses. Every place I've called, including Blue Beat, and every internet music site I've checked out are back ordered.
I'll check/call around Atlanta for you. "Cuttin' In" is my personal favorite for selfish reasons. He used my ES-345 on 2-3 tunes including the title cut, and gave me a thank you in the notes. He is the ONLY person I would have ever loaned that guitar to.
TwoFeets
04-18-2008, 10:47 AM
I'll check/call around Atlanta for you. "Cuttin' In" is my personal favorite for selfish reasons. He used my ES-345 on 2-3 tunes including the title cut, and gave me a thank you in the notes. He is the ONLY person I would have ever loaned that guitar to.
Felix has a bunch of pics up on his myspace with him and Sean playing somewhere and they're playing a 345. Is that yours? I know Fe has one but his is red; this one is black, I believe. I can't look at them right now as I can't get on myspace at work.
jawjatek
04-18-2008, 12:23 PM
No, not mine. Mine is a cherry red. It had a Bigsby ("66 TDC model) that I took off (too heavy, to much trouble restringing) and replaced with a 335 trapeze tail piece drilled out to match the Bigsby holes. The nylon saddles were chewed up and I replaced them with the graphtec ones. I bought it from Luther "Houserocker" Johnson, a long-time Atlanta bluesman who often does the house gigs at Blind Willies. This was after Felix moved to Fla, Seans band at the time was Paul Linden (harp, piano), Melvin (bass), Tim Gunther on drums (RIP), Matt Wachope (piano). He had it for a month or so, and I believe they were tracking at Jeff Bakos' place.
fretshop
04-18-2008, 01:18 PM
I'll check/call around Atlanta for you. "Cuttin' In" is my personal favorite for selfish reasons. He used my ES-345 on 2-3 tunes including the title cut, and gave me a thank you in the notes. He is the ONLY person I would have ever loaned that guitar to.
Thank you so much... !!! None of the stores I contacted up here the North East, or the internet sites like Amazon, CD Universe, etc. has any of Sean's stuff. Sean's stuff is all on either special order, or back order. Blue Beat has nothing.
ES-345 : What a guitar !!! I have a mint '63 Ice Tea sunburst that I traded straight up for my '54 Gold Top more than twenty years ago. I removed the Bigsby and installed a stop tailpiece and tune-o-matic bridge. When I took it apart to clean it....lo and behold....the surprize of a life time !!! Authentic Patent Applied For humbuckers, Ca. '57-'58. One is a black coil, and the other a tiger stripe (black and white coil). It is the best sounding and playing guitar I have ever owned...but I very rarely take it out of the house.
Strat-O
04-18-2008, 01:25 PM
Felix has a bunch of pics up on his myspace with him and Sean playing somewhere and they're playing a 345. Is that yours? I know Fe has one but his is red; this one is black, I believe. I can't look at them right now as I can't get on myspace at work.
Those photos are from an Electromatics show at Blind Willie's on 12/23/07. The guitar looked shiny and new, but it may not have been new. I'm not one for chatting about gear at shows. Felix sat in for three or four songs and Sean was playing with the Electromatics the whole night. Felix played several shows that weekend and I missed them all because I was gigging. It was musician central that night at Willie's and packed. Pretty weird for Sunday and the day before Christmas eve. I played Willie's the day after Christmas and every joint on that street was really slow. I'm glad someone took photos. There's some video of that night too. May have even been the last time Felix had a chance to play or see Sean, I don't know.
Sean played some killer Luther Tucker licks that night that have stayed with me since.
:(
Strat-O
04-18-2008, 01:28 PM
Thank you so much... !!! None of the stores I contacted up here the North East, or the internet sites like Amazon, CD Universe, etc. has any of Sean's stuff. Sean's stuff is all on either special order, or back order. Blue Beat has nothing.
G - You must be doing something wrong with your searches.... http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=sean+costello&x=12&y=17
fretshop
04-18-2008, 01:38 PM
G - You must be doing something wrong with your searches.... http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=sean+costello&x=12&y=17
Amazon:
Cuttin' In (http://www.amazon.com/Cuttin-Sean-Costello/dp/B00004RDMQ/ref=rsl_mainw_dpl?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER)
Not in stock; order now and we'll deliver when available and eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping
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CD Universe :
Costello, Sean CD
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Availability: Backordered since 4/17/2008
Cuttin' In & Moanin' For Molasses : Back ordered since 2/4 & 2/7/2008
This is the response I get when I add the selection to the shopping cart....(?)
Autopilot Slim
04-18-2008, 03:38 PM
Truly a sad loss.
Never had the chance to see him live.
I have most of his CD's. What a soulful player and singer.
Our thoughts and prayers for his family and friends.
It looks like Triangle Music http://www.triangle-music.com/
has most, if not all of Sean's catalog.
I have been watching his You Tube (& got a cd a few years back) Sean was already one of the Best out there, a truly Soulful Musician...
I am at a loss for words.
Raymond
04-18-2008, 04:28 PM
April 15th, 2008 What a sad day.
R.I.P. Sean
I was at Sean's show at the Nix Blues Club here in Holland,I think it was in 2003.Great show it was.The Nix Club made sure to include him on their programme each an every European tour he did after that first one.
On april 24 they have scheduled a Sean Costello Memorial evening scheduled.Listening to his cds and recordings of his Nix performances.
Ray
www.guitarray.com (http://www.guitarray.com)
S.W.Erdnase
04-19-2008, 02:24 AM
Guys,
Some bedroom blasting on my Clark Pro. I put this up for the harp nerds at another site. My chops she is rusty, but you get to hear it sahib...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33eHcnvdSoE
cheers
Drew
Goldie295
04-19-2008, 03:53 AM
Thank you so much... !!! None of the stores I contacted up here the North East, or the internet sites like Amazon, CD Universe, etc. has any of Sean's stuff. Sean's stuff is all on either special order, or back order. Blue Beat has nothing.
If you try iTunes and eMusic.com you can download these albums. I believe eMusic give you quite a few free dowloads when you first register. Could be just the ticket !
Cheers,
Phil
Goldie295
04-19-2008, 03:59 AM
As regards Sean's set up, I know he had a 53 Gold Top, but more recently I believe he was using a 54' Gibson Historic Reissue or something. Does anyone know? Was it stock? Also, what amps did he use and did he ever run into two amps at the same time?
I also read he used a Fulltone Supa-Trem. Is that right?
Cheers,
Phil
bluesjuke
04-19-2008, 07:41 AM
Guys,
Some bedroom blasting on my Clark Pro. I put this up for the harp nerds at another site. My chops she is rusty, but you get to hear it sahib...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33eHcnvdSoE
cheers
Drew
I like the tone you're getting there, mostly the player though.
It hit me when you posted this that I've never ran a harp through my Stu Hopkins built Pro.
I'll have to give that a go this weekend.
jumpnblues
04-19-2008, 09:40 AM
As regards Sean's set up, I know he had a 53 Gold Top, but more recently I believe he was using a 54' Gibson Historic Reissue or something. Does anyone know? Was it stock? Also, what amps did he use and did he ever run into two amps at the same time?
I also read he used a Fulltone Supa-Trem. Is that right?
Cheers,
Phil
Goldie,
I'm not an expert on Sean's equipment, but I believe you're right about the guitars. He just started using and, I think, endorsing Goodsell amps. Although in the past he used various vintage Fender brown and blackface amps. The young man certainly was a monster talent in both blues and early, traditional, R&B. And he blended both effortlessly. Just a massive loss of talent to contemporary blues.
IMHO, the only other young player that I'm aware of to carry on the traditional/straight blues torch so competently might be Matt Schofield. Although I'm still taking a wait and see attitude with him. Lots of young, blues influenced, rockers out there but the cupboard's getting pretty thin as far as young traditional/straight blues players are concerned. As I mentioned above, Sean did a beautiful job of mixing early R&B and blues. And Matt does a nice job of mixing traditional blues and jazz, so I'm not sure that "traditional/straight blues" is an accurate description for either player. But both certainly have very strong traditional leanings. Damn, I miss Sean though.
Tom
jumpnblues
04-19-2008, 10:04 AM
I have a chance to buy back a walnut colored ES-335 with Bigsby tailpiece, about 1968 vintage, that I bought new in 1969. It belongs to the widow of the man I sold it to. She's asked me if I want to buy it back. I'm not sure I can afford it. I sold it to her husband for $325. (I think I needed the money for a car) after owning it for about a year or so. I'm afraid to ask what it's worth and wouldn't think of taking advantage of her. It's been so long ago that I owned it I can't remember whether it was a good sounding/playing one or not.
Did 335s of that vintage usually sound and play good? Would it have '57 style PAFs or was it too new for those? It probably has the skinny neck (I can't remember), which is OK with me as I have small hands. What would it be worth (please be gentle, LOL!)?
Tom
sethr
04-19-2008, 10:23 AM
the only other young player that I'm aware of to carry on the traditional/straight blues torch so competently might be Matt Schofield.
Check out Sean Carney.
TwoFeets
04-19-2008, 10:26 AM
As regards Sean's set up, I know he had a 53 Gold Top, but more recently I believe he was using a 54' Gibson Historic Reissue or something. Does anyone know? Was it stock? Also, what amps did he use and did he ever run into two amps at the same time?
I also read he used a Fulltone Supa-Trem. Is that right?
Cheers,
Phil
Pretty sure Sean had retired the '53 from touring and was using an older R6 goldtop that had been his backup guitar. It was very light as far as R6's go; I acted as his impromptu guitar tech at a show here in Sanford about 2 years back and changed out strings for him. He hadn't had a chance to change strings before the gig and he was one of those guys with the sweat that rusted them out in no time at all. I think he had Fralins in it although it's possible he switched over to Lollars after Jason wound a replica P90 based on the neck pickup in his '53, for the custom Tele StephenT made for him.
You want to talk about Tone in the Hands, that night when he busted a string he had no backup guitar. While I changed his string, the house handed him their spare guitar that they keep on hands for the drunks on jam nights. It was a cheap-ass Squier Affinity Strat. I couldn't believe what he was getting out of that thing, it sounded great.
RE: amps - a couple of years back I saw him with a BF Vibrolux Reverb that was stolen from him shortly thereafter. Just this January he was using a BF Pro Reverb and had the Goodsell along as his backup. He had just started his tour and at BB King's here in Orlando the amp died on him. I saw him the next night, again in Sanford FL, and he told me he couldn't find any decent tubes in town so he was going to use the Goodsell though he preferred the Pro. I gave him my spare set of 6L6's which was a pretty good pair, to get him by. Who'd have thought it would be the last time I'd see him. It just boggles the mind.
mr tom
04-19-2008, 11:45 AM
Fralins in the R6 (and the 335 Sean used to play), Lollar rewind in the '53 neck after it crapped out. Lollars also in the Jazzmaster copy Sean played for a while.
What a week.
Schwalbe
04-19-2008, 12:03 PM
IMHO, the only other young player that I'm aware of to carry on the traditional/straight blues torch so competently might be Matt Schofield. Although I'm still taking a wait and see attitude with him. Lots of young, blues influenced, rockers out there but the cupboard's getting pretty thin as far as young traditional/straight blues players are concerned. Check out Sean Carney.
A couple others to check out, Vyasa Dodson, JW-Jones.
Guitarzan
04-19-2008, 12:15 PM
A couple others to check out, Vyasa Dodson, JW-Jones.
and Kirk Fletcher and Mike Welch. Its a shame there aren't more, but there are young guys out there that are the real deal.
karmadave
04-19-2008, 12:21 PM
and Kirk Fletcher and Mike Welch. Its a shame there aren't more, but there are young guys out there that are the real deal.
Check out Kai Strauss, from Germany, too...
jumpnblues
04-19-2008, 12:25 PM
Man, my age is showin'...I did indeed forget some young guys that are doing a great job of carrying on the blues. I've always thought of Kirk as one of the "older" guys...not sure why? But, yep, forgot Mike and J.W. My apologies to both. I'm not familiar with Vyasa Dodson or Sean Carney. I'm relieved to know there are some others out there.
Tom
Schwalbe
04-19-2008, 12:52 PM
Man, my age is showin'...I did indeed forget some young guys that are doing a great job of carrying on the blues. I've always thought of Kirk as one of the "older" guys...not sure why? But, yep, forgot Mike and J.W. My apologies to both. I'm not familiar with Vyasa Dodson or Sean Carney. I'm relieved to know there are some others out there.
Tom
Those kids are pretty darn good! Carney's here: http://www.myspace.com/seancarneyband
Dodson leads the Insomniacs, check 'em out here: http://www.myspace.com/insomniacsblues
sethr
04-19-2008, 01:24 PM
Course your definition of kid has to be pretty loose. Sean Carney, e.g., is 35 (or so). But he's still considered an up and coming "young" guy. Hey, he's young compared to me.
Dave Orban
04-19-2008, 01:53 PM
Course your definition of kid has to be pretty loose. Sean Carney, e.g., is 35 (or so). But he's still considered an up and coming "young" guy. Hey, he's young compared to me.It's ALL relative, ain't it...? LOL!
Short Bus
04-19-2008, 06:52 PM
RIP Sean and condolences to his family and friends.
Last night I caught the Mark Hummel/Curtis Salgado/Rick Estrin Harp show at Ace's Lounge in Bradenton, FL. Great show! Rusty Zinn on guitar, RW Grigsby on Bass and Jay Hanson on drums. Curtis is in great shape! Two sets each-Mark played 3 or so, Curtis played 3 or 4, then Rick played 3 or 4.
Then they all did a tune with a couple local harp players, T.C. Carr and Kid Harpo. Then a final encore of Scratch My Back.
Rusty was playing his red Epi 335 thru a BF Super and just smoked all night!
Short Bus
04-19-2008, 06:53 PM
BTW
There was some talk of Junior on the tour w/ Nemeth. I recently remembered that his H44 is tuned down to D.
S.W.Erdnase
04-19-2008, 10:33 PM
I like the tone you're getting there, mostly the player though.
It hit me when you posted this that I've never ran a harp through my Stu Hopkins built Pro.
I'll have to give that a go this weekend.
Thanks for the compliment. I just uploaded a heap of harp clips of the Meteor plus my Princeton repro. I kind of like the 1940s astatic crystal in the lower gain MEAT channel, plus the Turner dynamic in the Princeton...
If I get the courage I may upload some clips of the Meteor using a guitar. On second thoughts, nah, maybe not.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Ev630
'56 Merc
04-20-2008, 12:14 AM
Show'n my age here but I believe Igor Prado, Nick Curan & Kid Andersen are all young guys too.
Also Rusty's red Epiphone is a Riviera not a 335.
Scott Miller
04-20-2008, 01:40 AM
More youth of note:
Matt Stubbs
Nathan James
I dunno, everything I've heard from Matt Schofield is that kind of blues that's too much "Comin' at ya," and not enough "Come on in."
TwoFeets
04-20-2008, 02:37 AM
I seem to remember a guy named Mike Welch who is a pretty good player too.
OK so he's not a snot-nosed 18 year-old ripping up the Boston scene anymore but he is comparatively young!
Stringmaster
04-20-2008, 05:25 AM
S.W.--Since I was the one who originally asked about a guitar through the Meteor, I'd love to hear some clips through the channels, come on, don't be shy! Thanks
Thanks for the compliment. I just uploaded a heap of harp clips of the Meteor plus my Princeton repro. I kind of like the 1940s astatic crystal in the lower gain MEAT channel, plus the Turner dynamic in the Princeton...
If I get the courage I may upload some clips of the Meteor using a guitar. On second thoughts, nah, maybe not.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Ev630
Schwalbe
04-20-2008, 10:15 AM
I seem to remember a guy named Mike Welch who is a pretty good player too.
OK so he's not a snot-nosed 18 year-old ripping up the Boston scene anymore but he is comparatively young!
Yeah! Mike is great. We've got several tremendous young Blues artists right here on this thread. If I start with names I'm bound to leave somebody out. The genre' certainly isn't hurting for lack of interest on the musicans side of things.
Strat-O
04-20-2008, 10:26 AM
No disrespect meant to anyone but there is no young (under 40) guy playing electric blues who can touch the depth of Sean Costello's talent and soul. Sorry.
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad there are some great young guys who embrace traditional/classic blues but he was peerless.
Except for his age, Sean Costello is in the same class as Otis Rush, Buddy Guy, Hubert Sumlin and BB King.
pete kanaras
04-20-2008, 11:13 AM
the only other young player that I'm aware of to carry on the traditional/straight blues torch so competently might be Matt Schofield.
Robert Frahm is another. take it from me, keep an eye on this guy
he actually IS young, 22 or so
pete kanaras
04-20-2008, 11:18 AM
No disrespect meant to anyone but there is no young (under 40) guy playing electric blues who can touch the depth of Sean Costello's talent and soul. Sorry.
i agree wholeheartedly with you, and no need to apologize about it either. it has been a very dark week; i lost 3 people, waddya gonna do. but sean's senseless passing simply tore me up to shreds. i dearly loved that young man. godspeed bro
jumpnblues
04-20-2008, 03:28 PM
No disrespect meant to anyone but there is no young (under 40) guy playing electric blues who can touch Sorry.
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad there are some great young guys who embrace traditional/classic blues but he was peerless.
Except for his age, Sean Costello is in the same class as Otis Rush, Buddy Guy, Hubert Sumlin and BB King.
Ya' know, Strat-O, I've wracked my brain and I'm having a very difficult time finding fault with your statements. "[...the depth of Sean Costello's talent and soul...]". Indeed.
Tom
Strat-0 is the one who brought Sean to my attention many years ago and I'm very thankful for that. I only got to see him once but, it made me a believer that he was one of the greats!
I was stunned hearing the news he had passed away.
RIP
Birdseye
04-21-2008, 09:44 AM
No disrespect meant to anyone but there is no young (under 40) guy playing electric blues who can touch the depth of Sean Costello's talent and soul. Sorry.
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad there are some great young guys who embrace traditional/classic blues but he was peerless.
Except for his age, Sean Costello is in the same class as Otis Rush, Buddy Guy, Hubert Sumlin and BB King.
Word. Thanks for posting this. I had the same thoughts myself. Sean was truly one of the greats. I've loved his music for as long as I've known it, which has been quite a few years now. He really was as good as it gets.
fretshop
04-22-2008, 09:21 AM
A couple others to check out, Vyasa Dodson, JW-Jones.
Saron Crenshaw....The REAL deal.
Dave Gross
These fellas have great technique and presentation. Let me clarify one thing though, Sean was in his own league as a writer, instrumentalist and vocalist....
fretshop
04-22-2008, 09:52 AM
I have a chance to buy back a walnut colored ES-335 with Bigsby tailpiece, about 1968 vintage, that I bought new in 1969. It belongs to the widow of the man I sold it to. She's asked me if I want to buy it back. I'm not sure I can afford it. I sold it to her husband for $325. (I think I needed the money for a car) after owning it for about a year or so. I'm afraid to ask what it's worth and wouldn't think of taking advantage of her. It's been so long ago that I owned it I can't remember whether it was a good sounding/playing one or not.
Did 335s of that vintage usually sound and play good? Would it have '57 style PAFs or was it too new for those? It probably has the skinny neck (I can't remember), which is OK with me as I have small hands. What would it be worth (please be gentle, LOL!)?
Tom
The necks were a little slim, but those guitars were equipped with early T series humbuckers...Milton Campbell, Freddy King, and Otis Rush Favorites,
Black beauty caps, and the GOOD potentiometers. Gibson experimented with the neck angle on some of those instruments, and some of the Bigsby outfitted guitars won't work with a tailpiece and tune-o-matic conversion.
I have a Tailpiece/tune-o-matic walnut 335 which is a KILLER.
Now for the bad news: I've seen 'em go for over $2,500 in Manhattan...but that's Noo Yawk....yanowatteyemeen ?
fretshop
04-22-2008, 09:54 AM
Course your definition of kid has to be pretty loose. Sean Carney, e.g., is 35 (or so). But he's still considered an up and coming "young" guy. Hey, he's young compared to me.
He's young enough to be my kid, and for that matter...Dave Orban's grand kid.
GOLDENSTRAT
04-22-2008, 10:11 AM
For all you Bill Jennings fans, I have had "Stompin' with Bill" and "Glide On" for awhile as well as some cuts with Bill Doggett. A buddy turned me on to his recordings with Willis Jackson, the cut "Back and Forth" on the cd "Keep On Blowin'" is really amazing. There is a cd on the series "Legends of Acid Jazz" that includes two Jackson records "Blue Gator" and Cookin' Sherry". The great Jack McDuff is on all these as well. Lots of fine grooves on these alblums. Bill shows that there is a lot of room between the 4th and flat 5 as well as between the flat 5 and 5th. fred
RickyKing
04-22-2008, 11:20 AM
Flat 5 = The Delta
Flat 7 = The Holiest
Flat 3 = That Spoonful
sethr
04-22-2008, 12:33 PM
He's young enough to be my kid, and for that matter...Dave Orban's grand kid.
Hey, watch it. Dave's younger than I am.
glblues
04-23-2008, 05:24 AM
argh, junior watson's tone is glorious here but i cant figure out the amp he's using.
its his tokai LP with p90s OOP going thru a 4x10 combo what???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btXjDXkdWvA&feature=related
Dave Orban
04-23-2008, 07:08 AM
He's young enough to be my kid, and for that matter...Dave Orban's grand kid.You guys behave yourselves, or I'll run you over with my walker.
fretshop
04-23-2008, 07:26 AM
You guys behave yourselves, or I'll run you over with my walker.
I was wondering what happened to you...you haven't posted much. Have you heard from Jim Fogarty?
I got the green light at the studio for the Swing Session. It'd be a Sunday afternoon, and there is a very good non-smoking restaurant and bar across the street. I'd like to wait until Jim is able to attend.
Dave Orban
04-23-2008, 07:29 AM
I was wondering what happened to you...you haven't posted much. Have you heard from Jim Fogarty?
I try not to. He's so hurtful.
saggybottom
04-23-2008, 09:29 AM
argh, junior watson's tone is glorious here but i cant figure out the amp he's using.
its his tokai LP with p90s OOP going thru a 4x10 combo what???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btXjDXkdWvA&feature=related
Maybe a modified Vibro King? I know per Marc @ Victoria he use to use a 5e7 moded w/ 4x 10 cab.
jumpnblues
04-23-2008, 09:39 AM
argh, junior watson's tone is glorious here but i cant figure out the amp he's using.
its his tokai LP with p90s OOP going thru a 4x10 combo what???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btXjDXkdWvA&feature=related
I was thinking his LP GT with P90s was a Dillion? Did he get a different one? Not that it's a big deal anyway.
Tom
TwoFeets
04-23-2008, 09:55 AM
His LP GT is a Tokai with a Gibson overlay on the headstock. It's all gold.
Here in the States he plays a Pro that's been modded to 4x10, I believe, and a white '64 reverb tank (that's what he was using here in Orlando the last time I saw him, a couple years ago).
That video is with Knockout Greg and Blue Weather backing him, it's overseas, so I don't know if he would have brought his own amp, or is using provided backline.
Birdseye
04-23-2008, 09:59 AM
The amp in that video looks like a brown Concert, probably a 1961. But I don't think he's playing through it. Is there a harp player in the band? Those are great for harp, it might be there for that.
jimfog
04-23-2008, 11:49 AM
Uh-oh....the Brits are coming?
Firs