View Full Version : Lollar Blackface or Blonde for my strat
cbpickin
08-30-2006, 12:02 AM
Anyone have any experience with the Lollar Blackface strat set? I have read a bunch of good reviews of the Blonde set, but nothing on the Blackfaces. His site says they are a good pre CBS strat sound, but the Blondes say they are great with od pedals.
I am an od pedal user, but I still want great cleans and that '60's sound.
Blackface or Blonde?
hendrix2430
08-30-2006, 02:11 AM
IMO? Tweeds. :D
IMO? Tweeds. :D
thats what i was going to say, but he says 60's so Blondes.
J Purcell
08-30-2006, 06:13 AM
No experience yet but I went with the Lollar Blackface for the K-Line Strat that Chris is building me. I wanted the classic pre-CBS Strat sound.
Chris said it should be ready next week. Can't wait.
cbpickin
08-30-2006, 07:36 AM
thats what i was going to say, but he says 60's so Blondes.
I was under the impression the tweed were really low output, then the Blondes, then the Blackface with the Specials being the highest.
Lollar's website says the Blackface are the '60's sound, so why the Blondes. Could you expand a little more? He does say the Blondes are perfect for od pedals, and I love my od pedals.:D
straightblues
08-30-2006, 07:38 AM
I have a blackface in the neck of my Squier 51. It is a great pickup. It sounds like a great old strat.
Curly
08-30-2006, 09:28 AM
you might try asking Jason
gkelm
08-30-2006, 10:29 AM
Was wondering too a while back...here are a couple threads I foudn helpful:
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=162607&highlight=lollar+tweed
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=155765&highlight=lollar+tweed
cbpickin
08-30-2006, 12:54 PM
I have a blackface in the neck of my Squier 51. It is a great pickup. It sounds like a great old strat.
So, nobody is running a set of the Blackface in a strat? Sounds like the Blondes may be the way to go. Jason recommended Blondes with a Special in the bridge.
Festus
08-30-2006, 01:04 PM
I've got Jason's Blackface pickups in the neck and middle, and a Special in the bridge. I really like this setup. The blondes are great sounding pickups, to be sure, but a bit too polite for my taste. Very clean, great Mark Knopfler sounds. I needed a bit more growl when you dig in, so I went with the Blackface/Special set. I use a couple of different pedal boards with OD's, and the blackface/special setup works great. I suppose I was after more of a David Gilmore kind of tone, if a name needs to go with the sound.
leftyaxeslinger
08-30-2006, 01:04 PM
I have set of Lollar Blackfaces and couldn't be happier with them. They sound exactly how I want a strat to sound. They've got nice spank and quack in the middle positions, and great low end too. With my rig I can some nice Layla era Clapton strat sounds as well as some 70's era Gilmour tones. SRV is not too far away, but I don't use super thick strings or have his hands!
cbpickin
08-31-2006, 07:26 PM
So, to the Blonde users,
Can the Blondes do the Texas/SRV (for the sake of a well known tone) thing, or are they too "polite?"
Do they sustain well with od's?
I am thinking I want something similar to the sound of my EJ pickups, which is supposed to be a '63 neck, '54 middle and overwound bridge.
Anyone have an EJ AND some Lollars?
Casey
09-01-2006, 09:57 AM
I have a set of Blackface pups in my Senn Strat. They are nice and chimey (very pre-CBS sounding as Jason describes), but they have a good full sound to them at the same time. They work excellent with OD pedals, I haven't found a pedal they don't agree with. If I were you I would start with the Blackface set, and if you find you need something else proceed from there. I've tried all of this Strat sets and that is my favorite. Two thumbs up from me....whatever that is worth to ya.
cbpickin
09-01-2006, 12:42 PM
I have a set of Blackface pups in my Senn Strat. They are nice and chimey (very pre-CBS sounding as Jason describes), but they have a good full sound to them at the same time. They work excellent with OD pedals, I haven't found a pedal they don't agree with. If I were you I would start with the Blackface set, and if you find you need something else proceed from there. I've tried all of this Strat sets and that is my favorite. Two thumbs up from me....whatever that is worth to ya..
Interesting. I listened to the clips on the Acme site and thought the Blackface were pretty close to the Fralin Blues Specials I have in another strat. The Blondes definitely have the chime going on, but I thought the BFs were a little strong in the mids and may not sparkle/chime enough in comparison. I may go with the BF, but I definitely want something with more high end chime than the Fralin Blues Specials.
Casey
09-03-2006, 09:28 PM
I've had the Fralin Blues Specials before, and the Blackface sets doesn't have the overwound mid thing going on like the Fralins. Jason voices these pickups very nicely. The mids are nice and full, but not hot/overwound. Where the mids are voiced at in his pickups sit nicely in a band mix, and keep a nice note clarity (even when overdriven.) The Blondes I had were a little thinner and more scooped in comparison to the Blackface set. The 2&4 positions have the nice strat quack, where I didn't get that as much with the Fralin Blues Specials.
Anyhow, those are just a few observations...being as I have owned both sets I hope I can help you with a decision one way or the other.
cbpickin
09-03-2006, 11:55 PM
Yes, you did help. I'm gonna go with the blackfaces. Did you try the Special in the bridge by chance? I think I'm gonna go with a straight blackface set, but I have been considering a Special in the bridge because Jason Lollar said I could even do that with the Blondes and still get the quack.
cbpickin
09-04-2006, 11:00 PM
Well a local guy was nice enough to let me check out his Blonde-loaded strat and I really liked them. I totally get all the descriptions people have been using and they were pretty true to the clips at Acme. I did compare them with my EJ and they are a little similar in that they are very articulate, but definitely not the same. The EJ's have more output and body, but some of the smoothness is similar. The Blondes really do chime extremely well and the neck of the Blondes was little brighter than the EJ. They sounded like a great 50's strat should.
Now I am almost more indecisive because I can't directly compare them with the Blackface.
If the Blackface can give me a fair amount of the strat chime that I heard in the Blondes, but add some mids and body, I would be set. My fear is that the BF's may not have the crisp, chimey high-end that the Blondes do when you dig in and may be too mid heavy. I know they are both great pups, so I can't go wrong.
Well, I've got a few more weeks to torture myself before I have to decide.
Casey
09-05-2006, 09:27 AM
Sorry for the delayed response...I've been feeling a bit under the weather lately. The Blackface will do what you just said..."a fair amount of the strat chime that I heard in the Blondes, but add some mids and body." I have a Special in the bridge...and surprisingly still get a nice bridge/middle quack. I wired my tone controls for Master Volume/Neck Tone/Bridge Tone. I assure the Blackface set is very chimey. I can roll down the bridge tone a bit and use just the bridge pickup and get a very cool greasy/chimey strat tone. Try doing that with most strat bridge pickups! But if think the Blonde set will do it for you then by all means give it a shot. Only your ears know what you want to hear. I've had every set of Jason's but the Tweed...and for the sound you are wanting....I feel confident the Blackface set will get you there. I'll see if I can find a sound sample or two of my Strat with the BF set in there so you can have another reference.
cbpickin
09-05-2006, 03:49 PM
I've had every set of Jason's but the Tweed...and for the sound you are wanting....I feel confident the Blackface set will get you there. I'll see if I can find a sound sample or two of my Strat with the BF set in there so you can have another reference.
That would be really great. I really like the Blondes I played, but I am a little concerned they may get too bright. I played them with an ash body with maple neck and I'm thinking my alder/rosewood may mellow them out a little, but no way to predict. The Blondes are by no means harsh, just a tad bright.
cbpickin
09-07-2006, 06:17 PM
Still got some time. Any more responses? I have been reading and listening to everything I can find comparing the two. Of course, it sounds like I want what is right in the middle of the Alnico II and Alnico V. Chime, sweet high end AND some good mid, lower fullness. It looks like I have to choose one way or the other. Currently, I am leaning toward the Blondes with a Special in the bridge.
Casey, any luck with some clips of the Blackface?
Seegs
09-07-2006, 08:22 PM
My experience with the Blackface set was different...I had them in an alderbody/Rw necked strat and they are quite a bit darker and warmer than the Blondes...email Bryan/Tonedog at ACME to confirm this he has vast experience with all of these pus in fact it was his old BF set that I had...btw there a ton of clips of all three sets at the ACME Guitarworks site...
the neck was too fat and bloated for my tastes and the in-betweens were unusable due to the volumn loss...I didn't get sparkle and chime I got warm and fat...too fat for my taste...and while the pickups sounded nice at home they did not cut through the mix while using an excellent SF Deluxe on stage...I had sore hands the next day and sold them...
IMO the Blondes...stock set are the safest bet of all of the sets but for my needs I went with the tweeds which are by far and away my favourite set but my needs are different than most...I am an articulation junkie...I wanted a thinner clear and articulate strat tone for RnB and Blues rhythm work and for that the tweeds are my fave...for reference I wanted an RnB funk rhthm machine which would cut...when need be....through dense mixes and the tweeds are perfect for that...what I didn't bank on was how good they really are...they sound great with every kind of amp I've put them through so much so that I reach for my strat first these days even though I am primarily a tele player...
If my guitar was on the bright side I would most likely opt for the Blonde stock set as the tweeds can get really glassy but I would always miss the articulation factor that the tweeds give me especially the neck pu which is really amazing...
as far as with pedals the Blonds and Tweeds sound really fantastic and creamy with pedal od with the Blondes being fatter when soloing than the Tweeds...the in-betweens on both sets is amazing with the Tweeds also having the edge there...both sets are very touch sensitve and stay clear and articulate even with massive amounts of gain...dig in and you get more treble lay back and they are sweet round and smooth...
as far as the too bright worry I think you can really tame that by the pu height adjustment...with these pus a little adj. makes a huge difference...just set the treble side a tad lower as the trebles are really rounded and sweet on the Blonde set and this would make them less prominent...what you didn't say is what amp your using as that can be a factor in which is the right set for you!
Chow,
Seegs
cbpickin
09-07-2006, 08:53 PM
Seegs,
Thanks for your response. I have read your responses on a few forums, actually.:AOK
I am running a Fargen Blackbird 4x6V6 most of the time. I also have a Clark Beaufort and 1966 Super Reverb that I gig occassionally.
I like the Blondes, I am just curious about the Blackface.
Seegs
09-07-2006, 09:12 PM
Hey CB,
Sounds like a great arsenal...I'm running 6L6s in my Dual Classic combo w/pine cab and it's already fat enough on its own so that has a lot to do with my pu choices...what I didn't bank on was the Tweeds killin in my Bad Cat Cub...don't get me wrong the BF set sounded fine at home what I wasn't banking on is how they reacted on stage...I was totally frustrated by the lack of cut...between the 2nd guitar and the bass I was nowhere to be heard...
I understand the curiosity part:) thats why I had to have all three sets in just to hear it for myself when I knew from listening to the ACME clips that I loved the Tweeds:dude
if you can swing it getting them in for a trial is the way to go...in the end I really didn't lose much if anything when I resold them...
Chow,
Seegs
cbpickin
09-07-2006, 09:34 PM
Hey CB,
don't get me wrong the BF set sounded fine at home what I wasn't banking on is how they reacted on stage...I was totally frustrated by the lack of cut...between the 2nd guitar and the bass I was nowhere to be heard...
I play in a blues trio and I'm thinking the fatness of the BFs will help carry the rhythm and I'm a little afraid the Blondes may be too thin. But, I have heard NOTHING but rave reviews by everyone who has the Blondes. I did a get a chance to play them, and they were very sweet. The guy may come by my gig with his guitar tomorrow night and actually play a couple of tunes on it so I can hear them live. Very cool cat indeed. Then I will have a better idea of how the Blondes will work for me in a real world/gig environment.
I have the Blues Specials in my G&L and I'm thinking the BFs are probably somewhere between the BS and the Blondes, maybe more like the Fralin Vintage Hots, since they are Alnico V.
Seegs
09-07-2006, 10:14 PM
I play in a blues trio and I'm thinking the fatness of the BFs will help carry the rhythm and I'm a little afraid the Blondes may be too thin. But, I have heard NOTHING but rave reviews by everyone who has the Blondes. I did a get a chance to play them, and they were very sweet. The guy may come by my gig with his guitar tomorrow night and actually play a couple of tunes on it so I can hear them live. Very cool cat indeed. Then I will have a better idea of how the Blondes will work for me in a real world/gig environment.
I have the Blues Specials in my G&L and I'm thinking the BFs are probably somewhere between the BS and the Blondes, maybe more like the Fralin Vintage Hots, since they are Alnico V.
they may be ok in a trio setting...but I think it is always easier and sounds more natural to me to fatten up a guitar tone that it is to thin it out...my Klon with the Tweeds does just that without losing articulation...just think with the Blondes you'd have a reason to go pedal shopping;)
Chow,
Seegs
Aruntang
09-07-2006, 11:29 PM
I have been gigging my Custom shop '69 strat with the Lollar Blackface set and don't find them dark at all. The are perfect. To me they are similar in output and tone to the Fralin Vintage hots but without that mid peak that the fralins have. I have never been happier. I have played with them in a 9-piece funk band to a Blues Rock Power Trio to backing singer songwriters playing folk, alternative and alt. Country to even Jazz and have never been so happy with my Strat. I wholeheartedly recommend the Lollar Blackface set. Especially to start with. After having them on your guitar for a while it will be easier for you to decide if you want to stay with them or go to the brighter but less aggressive Blonde set. I am not a fan of overwound strat pickups so I stayed away from the Lollar Specials though I hear that they are great as well and have a lot of clarity while still sounding full and hot.
james russell
09-07-2006, 11:50 PM
Just wanted to jump in and say thanks for all the excellent responses to this thread. I'm also looking for pickups for two Strat style guitars that I'm currently building and have narrowed it down to Lollar Blondes and or Blackfaces.
cbpickin, please post a report if your friend comes by and plays his Blondes. I want to know what you think of them.
Thanks
AJ Love
05-01-2007, 05:58 PM
I just installed some Lollar Blackface pickups in my Fender American Deluxe Strat and they have completely transformed what was a great Strat into an UNBELIEABLY INCREDIBLE Strat
These pickups are very "old school" Pre-CBS Strat sounding, but a 60's Pre-CBS Strat, a little more Midrange. They can get very ballsy and rude when you dig in, and can nail an old school Muddy Waters Chicago Blues tone or an SRV tone in spades
My favorite local guitar tech was over here helping me install them because I needed to do some things that I don't know how to do (completely re-wired the Strat with new electronics, Pots, everything, and wired the Bridge pickup to a tone pot) and when I was playing the Strat after we installed them, he just kept saying "Wow" over and over
If you are looking for a Strat pickup that can go from Beautiful to Rude depending on how hard you pick, the Blackface pickups are the bibbitty-bomb
stratman89
05-01-2007, 06:18 PM
I just installed some Lollar Blackface pickups in my Fender American Deluxe Strat and they have completely transformed what was a great Strat into an UNBELIEABLY INCREDIBLE Strat
That is exactly how I felt when I installed the Blackface pups in my Am Strat. My tech was blown away as well when he fired it up after installing the pickups. I've had them in them in for over a year now and absolutely love their tone.
cbpickin
05-02-2007, 12:00 AM
I have grown to really love the Blondes over the time I've had my KLine. The Blackface are great for a fuller, yet vintage, strat sound. I still have them in my G&L, but the Blondes are just awesome for my ideal vintage strat tone. A little scoop in the mids and just beautifully smooth, articulate Alnico 2 tone.
The Alnico 5's have a little more bite, but are excellent as well. If you're looking for a fuller strat pickup with good mids and bottom, yet still vintage tone, the Blackface are tough to beat. I much prefer them over the Fralins I've had.
AJ Love
05-02-2007, 12:39 AM
The Blondes are cool, most definitely. They completely NAIL the Robert Cray tone on the in-between position of Bridge/Middle, and also get some beautiful Knopfler type tones too... I just love the rude in your face nastiness that the Blackface pickups can get, especially through a 5E3 amp. I've been searching for that tone for too long
Taller
05-02-2007, 06:55 AM
After non-satisfaction with the stock Delta Tones in my ash/maple Y2K American Series Strat (actually not too bad, but the between tones were lacking something), then a time with Fender Fat 50's (that guitar didn't get along with those either), I went through the same agonizing process of trying to choose some pickups from the infinate amount of choices that are available.
I took a dive and went with the Lollar Blackface set after e-mailing Jason and trying to describe my guitar, how it sounded to me, the amp I'm playing through and style of music.
I couldn't be happier.
I wouldn't dare try to describe the sound, as it's all so subjective to one's own ears and the guitar involved, but to me, they sound like what I imagine an old Strat should sound like.
cbpickin
05-02-2007, 09:48 AM
The Blondes are cool, most definitely. They completely NAIL the Robert Cray tone on the in-between position of Bridge/Middle, and also get some beautiful Knopfler type tones too... I just love the rude in your face nastiness that the Blackface pickups can get, especially through a 5E3 amp. I've been searching for that tone for too long
+1 on the 5E3 amp thing! I still gotta try set of tweeds with a tweed amp though.:AOK
Jim S
05-05-2009, 01:33 PM
I'm having my 10 year old Kinman Avn Blues set replaced with a set of Lollar Blondes. I called Lollar and Greg? was very helpful. They are going into a Sadowsky alder maple board strat.
frankiestarr
05-05-2009, 02:12 PM
I like the blondes, but they are very polite. Clean and pretty. If you want something to rock a little, go black-face. I have also had great results with Bare Knuckles Irish Tours, and several others....Don Mare Super Sports are amazing. Very vintage and clean with beefy out-put. I don't know how he does it. The cream of the crop when it comes to strat Pickups....
Jim S
05-05-2009, 02:35 PM
I want an open pretty tone and dynamic responsive pickups with good low end and & attack.....I want to hear fingernails and skin and string windings...Hendrix' Bold As Love and Little Wing.
I can always add gain with pedals,my SLO, and morning breath.
cugel
05-05-2009, 03:54 PM
blonde user here in a alder/maple strat. i love these things and can get all the tones i need. low output for sure (compared to what i am used to) but great in all positions. they LOVE treble boosters .
frankiestarr
05-05-2009, 07:26 PM
You know....You might consider The CS 69's. They really fit your description. For those Axis sounds. They are some great sounding PU's. Good luck with the project! One thing about the blondes, they really don't have a good low-end like you want.
Jim S
05-05-2009, 08:04 PM
You know....You might consider The CS 69's. They really fit your description. For those Axis sounds. They are some great sounding PU's. Good luck with the project! One thing about the blondes, they really don't have a good low-end like you want.
:thud
frankiestarr
05-06-2009, 01:43 AM
I've owed the Tweeds, blondes, blackface, several other great ones....Bare Knuckles are great....The CS 69's really are good ! If you can deal with not having RW middle. Some say it gives you more quack in pos. 2 and 4.....As far as the blondes go, I think it comes down to how often you use the "in between" sounds. If you want that serious quack the lower out-put PU's deliver...If you want to rock a little something a little hotter will shine, but looses a little of the quack. The way I look at it...a strat is by nature a bright sounding guitar.....I want it to quack and chime. If I want to get heavy, I bring in the Gibsons. There has never been so many good ones to pick from. Take your time and read and listen...But still say CS 69's will give you good cleans and quack with a decent output that is hotter then the blondes. Just my opinion. Take it for what it's worth. I have 8 strats all with various after market PU's....Happy Hunting !
Jim S
05-06-2009, 07:31 AM
I have 8 strats all with various after market PU's....Happy Hunting !
That's 24 strat pickups!
I have another RW alder strat that has --I think--Duncan Antiquities and they rock pretty well for me. Anyway, I'm sure there's nothing to hate about the Blondes and I did love the sound clips on Lollar's website.
jamison162
05-06-2009, 09:22 AM
The CS 69's really are good ! If you can deal with not having RW middle. Some say it gives you more quack in pos. 2 and 4.....
I actually find the opposite to be true. I put a set of 69's in a customers guitar and while the neck and bridge alone are great pickups, the set overall wouldn't work for me. Neck is clear, but not quite glassy enough for me, the bridge is freakin sweet with overdrive, but still just a tad on the weak/bright/thin side. The RW middle makes the set noisy. The set is all the exact same windings/output, non calibrated (hence the weak bridge). And in the 2/4 positions I actually find them dull and muddy, nothing like that quacky out-of-phase kind of tone I'm used too.
Just wanted to give some opinions on those from my experience.
cugel
05-06-2009, 10:10 AM
this thread promted me to light up my 18 watt with a cjod clone in front with my blondes: amazing huge tone, nothing polite about it
SLBlues
05-06-2009, 10:59 AM
I am just a hack player but my alder/maple mia has blonde neck, bf middle, and special bridge Lollar pickups. I like the combo pretty well. Had all BFs in it before and that too was good. Have debated going back to all BFs but have not done so yet. Both ways work well through my Richter 5E3 .
Kingbeegtrs
05-06-2009, 11:49 AM
Blonde
Abandoned
02-24-2012, 06:18 AM
Ok well I want something that's going to make my Strat fatter... I have the 2011 stock pickups in my new 2011 fender am std Strat. I just bought it in the end of October.
I using a Dr. Z Maz38 Sr.
I really want the dirty blonde set but I think from the sounds of everything that they are a thinner sound.
I still want all the chime and shimmer/sparkle of a Strat - but I want thicker tones from it.
Should I just go with the specials all around then?
K-Line
02-25-2012, 08:19 AM
Ok well I want something that's going to make my Strat fatter... I have the 2011 stock pickups in my new 2011 fender am std Strat. I just bought it in the end of October.
I using a Dr. Z Maz38 Sr.
I really want the dirty blonde set but I think from the sounds of everything that they are a thinner sound.
I still want all the chime and shimmer/sparkle of a Strat - but I want thicker tones from it.
Should I just go with the specials all around then?
Sure, the Specials are a big fat sound, less sparkle than the Blackface. Think about this...Blackface in the neck and middle with a Special bridge./ Best of all areas with plent of mids to fatten the tone. Klein makes a set for me called the Klein K-Line Custom Set that is big yet have a nice sparkle.
SuperSonic
02-25-2012, 08:24 AM
Dirty blonde set on the way. Will update.
galibier_un
02-25-2012, 12:16 PM
Coming from a Tele perspective, this aligns with my thoughts as well.
To my way of thinking, it's easier to dial down a touch of brightness with a clean boost, for example (or of course, or your tone controls), than it is to brighten something you find to be too dull.
Of course, I'm not talking about the kind of bright, ice-pick, rip the fillings out of your teeth sort of bright, but rather something that's just a touch on the bright side.
Does anyone know the pickup set (Lollars) in Barry Sless' guitar made by Scott Walker (http://www.scottwalkerguitars.com/Attrezzo.html). Maybe Steve K can comment.
Cheers,
Thom
... IMHO the Blondes...stock set are the safest bet of all of the sets but for my needs I went with the tweeds which are by far and away my favourite set but my needs are different than most...I am an articulation junkie...I wanted a thinner clear and articulate strat tone for RnB and Blues rhythm work and for that the tweeds are my fave...for reference I wanted an RnB funk rhthm machine which would cut...when need be....through dense mixes and the tweeds are perfect for that...what I didn't bank on was how good they really are...they sound great with every kind of amp I've put them through so much so that I reach for my strat first these days even though I am primarily a tele player...
If my guitar was on the bright side I would most likely opt for the Blonde stock set as the tweeds can get really glassy but I would always miss the articulation factor that the tweeds give me especially the neck pu which is really amazing...
Seegs
Amplite
02-25-2012, 12:30 PM
Dirty Blonde set for me does everything I want a Strat to do!
Different amps, pedals, clean, dirty, quack everything. I'm dying to try the Blackface set but if I do I'm gonna have to do it in another Strat because my #1 with Dirty Blonde set is perfection! Alder/rosewood 7.3 lbs.
dean111music
02-26-2012, 04:30 PM
Hi,
Great thread guys! I'm up for putting some life into my strat. It currently sounds quite weak and hasn't got much top end.
I'm looking at the blackface set or have you guys heard of
Amalifitando pickups? I'm a big fan of Matt schofield and he uses them and has even got his own svl set.
The sp set is what I think everyone would prefer as they have a bit more balls.
Let us know what you think
http://www.amalfitanopickups.com/sp_stratocaster_pickups.php
dean111music
02-26-2012, 04:46 PM
What order would you put
Lindy fralin vintage hot
Lindy fralin blues specials
Lollar blonde
Lollar blackface
Lollar special
Amalfitano sp
Going from thin/quackest to big smooth sounding?
jamison162
03-29-2012, 11:01 PM
My thoughts on mix and match Lollars...BTW he'll do flat or staggered poles.
Neck Position: Staggered for more vintage character.
Blonde Bridge (6k, A2 - a little beefier than the Blonde neck @ 5.6k but not as warm/beefy as the BF neck)
Middle Position: Staggered for more vintage character.
Blonde Middle (5.8k, A2, RWRP still - the lower wind and stagger gives better 2/4 quack tones)
Bridge Position: Flat Poles for smoother od tones and best string to string balance for this position.
a) Blackface Bridge (6.8k, graded A5 - Special bridge is too muddy IMO, the BF bridge is the same output as the Special neck, better balance and clarity)
b) Blackface Neck @ 6.4k for even more clarity and detail in the bridge @ quack position
Abandoned
07-02-2012, 05:28 AM
Bump.
thesooze
07-07-2012, 12:02 PM
Bump.
Yah, I'm interested in this as well.
It looks as if Blackface-Blackface-Special might be the way to go... I'm more of a Tele/Jazzmaster player, so the Strat has always seemed a little thin for me. Not really looking for "quack," but just a different character to my other Fender gear.
The Blondes might be too polite, as some have mentioned, especially if you put the Special in the bridge. I've had a Lollar Special in some Tele builds I've owned, and if the Strat special is anything like those, they're very hot, and very thick sounding. I think there might be too much disparity between the Blondes and Special in that case.
I think having all Specials might be too much of one sound-- plus I like Necks to be a little underwound when compared with Bridges.
Yeah... so... I might give the BF-BF-Special a try... but I need a Strat first :rotflmao
Abandoned
03-16-2013, 11:27 PM
I like that the Blondes are sparkly and chimey and polite and smooth and work with OD pedals great... I just wanna make sure they will not have a weak and thin low end. If they have a full and not anemic low end then I'm all in.
Rock72
03-17-2013, 02:50 AM
I like that the Blondes are sparkly and chimey and polite and smooth and work with OD pedals great... I just wanna make sure they will not have a weak and thin low end. If they have a full and not anemic low end then I'm all in.
I am interested in knowing this too
Stratobuc
03-17-2013, 04:56 AM
Dirty Blonde - tone knob wired to bridge - HEAVEN!
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cbpickin
03-17-2013, 09:22 AM
I like that the Blondes are sparkly and chimey and polite and smooth and work with OD pedals great... I just wanna make sure they will not have a weak and thin low end. If they have a full and not anemic low end then I'm all in.
My Blondes are definitely not weak in the low end, they still have a very nice fullness. I will also add though that the individual guitar does play a signinficant role in the sound. I have a set of Blondes in another strat (in the middle and bridge) and they sound pretty different from my main strat that has Blondes in all three positions. But, the Blondes are definitely not too weak, and they work beautifully with pedals.
Abandoned
03-17-2013, 09:34 AM
My Blondes are definitely not weak in the low end, they still have a very nice fullness. I will also add though that the individual guitar does play a signinficant role in the sound. I have a set of Blondes in another strat (in the middle and bridge) and they sound pretty different from my main strat that has Blondes in all three positions. But, the Blondes are definitely not too weak, and they work beautifully with pedals.
Great to know thank you!
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