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Griff
09-30-2006, 10:26 AM
Posted here and BAM.

First off, thanks for the help on my last post about trems. You guys are the best.

Next issue: I need a wiring diagram for a pickup configuration. My goal is a three nob system. I went a volume pot, a tone control and I would love to have a PRS style five way rotary nob because I often hit the blade on my Strat and knock it out of position. This is the pickup configuration I want a diagram for:

Pickups are Hum-Single-Single.

Position 1: Bridge Hum only
Position 2: Coil tapped bridge hum to single coil and middle single coil
Postion 3: Middle single coil only
Position 4: Middle single coil and neck single coil
Position 5: Neck single coil only

I have looked on the WWW (Reranch, Project Guitar etc). Maybe I missed where the diagrams are or maybe I don't know how to search correctly. In any event can somebody point me in the direction of a wiring diagram like the one I'm looking for?

Or at least something that would achieve the same result? Maybe the thing to do is have a McCarty-like switch to tap the hum to single coil and then have a three way nob for the rest of the tones?

Thanks

PS: Does anyonme know if Warmoth can/will rear rout for rotary nobs? I know I could call and ask them but I just haven't done yet and thought maybe somebody here would know.

scottlr
09-30-2006, 10:51 AM
http://www.guitarnuts.com/wiring/index.php

Might be something here... not sure.

Griff
10-02-2006, 01:53 PM
Thanks Scott. Cool sight.

Clorenzo
10-02-2006, 05:32 PM
Use this switch: http://www.guitarelectronics.com/product/SWR51

and wire like this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v677/Clorenzog/rotary-SSH.jpg

The switch is as seen from the bottom. The blue, purple and red are the hot wires of the pu's, the black ones are the ground wires and the green is the "middle" wire of the bridge HB (it's usually two wires that you connect together in a 4-wire HB, for example the red and white in a Seymour Duncan).

This assumes that the slugs coil of the bridge HB is the one that cancels hum with the middle pu, so that's the one active in position 2. If it's the screws coil, connect that black wire at the bottom of the switch to the bridge pu hot wire instead of ground. If then, as most people do, you prefer the active coil to be the one closer to the middle pu, simply turn the bridge HB around (screws coil towards the neck, slugs coil towards the bridge).

All the GND wires go to the back of the vol. pot. The "To Vol. and Tone" wire goes to the standard master vol. + master tone configuration as seen for example in this diagram:

http://static.zoovy.com/img/guitarelectronics/-/wdu_hss5l11_02

Re. the Warmoth question, I asked for custom sized holes once and they said no, but you can always simply tell them not to drill that hole (they do do that) and do it yourself.

gfguitar
10-04-2006, 07:31 AM
hi griff

i installed a prs 5--way rotary switch and like you i cant find a diagram
for this switch anywhere .

mine has the newer pcb board on it . these come on prs - ce--22s and also on custom 22s . these switches work great , they split the coils and give you that straty 2nd and 4th position tone which i love .

i ended up wiring mine up like the diagram someone sent you with there
5-way switch , thats the old version of prs switch . it works ok .

im still trying to find a full diagram of the pcb newer switch .
i have talked to prs 2--times and they cant find that diagram .

i guess im going to have to find someone that installs these switches to get a diagram . or has a ce--22 or a custom i can look at .

if i find anything new ill let you know . if you happen to find on please let me know .
see ya
gary f.
asheville n.c

Clorenzo
10-04-2006, 08:30 AM
Just to clarify: the PRS switch has the specific wiring for their well known pu combinations (Bridge, Outer, Inner series, Inner, Neck) realized on the PCB tracks. All you can do is wire the pickups and pots to it and get the above combinations.

The only way to get a different switching scheme with it is either to cut some PCB tracks and add some jumper wires (see this thread: http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=45522 where I explain how to get Neck+Bridge in position 3 with this method) or to remove the PCB completely and then you have a generic 4-pole, 5-way switch just like the one above, only with the lugs laid out differently. I actually did remove the PCB in my CE22 because I wanted a different wiring. It's not easy to remove it and then the switch is a pain to wire manually because the lugs are very close together, but it's doable.

Griff
10-05-2006, 08:12 AM
Wow guys! Thank you for all the info.