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Fred_C
11-27-2006, 08:23 PM
also posted this on the FDP, hoping to get as much input as I can. Also hope this is posted in the right place here. I've been lookinng at baritones lately and considering these two. It seems used dano baritones go for around $275-375, and used Jerry Jones for around $500-700. Is the improved quality of Jerry Jones instruments worth this, and if so, why? Thanks for any help!

Jon C
11-27-2006, 08:25 PM
IMO, yes... the Danos are OK but intonation is spotty and quality of pots, etc., are merely OK... I thought it was worth the diff. IMO>

Chris T
11-27-2006, 08:36 PM
Owned several Danos both old ones and re-issues-I have kept an old Silvertone/Dano U2 but as per quality differences between the re-issue Dano stuff and Jerry Jones there is no comparison at all IMO. The Jerry Jones guitars have better bridges, better tuners, better pickups, better fret work, truss rods that work and are easy to get to. The Danos are fun guitars but in the end the Jones guitars are easily worth the extra $$$. Plus I have had several Dano re-issues cross my path that were just plain dogs. Never played a bad Jerry Jones guitar period. Too bad you didn't post this a week ago-I sold my Jerry Jones baritone to a fellow in Norway who is very happy right now...:dude

JRenn
11-27-2006, 08:43 PM
I'll agree with Chris and Jon on this one. Danelectro's often have very cheap hardware, and the intonation is usually off, too. The Jerry Jones's I've played have been consistently higher quality and much better-sounding when plugged in, IMO.
ESPECIALLY with the baritone models. I almost bought a Bari from Jones or Danelectro, and did some extensive testing. Played about 4 Jerry Jones and 5 Danelectros, results were in favor of the Jones EVERY time. I even tried a blind test, not looking at the headstock, and again - Jones every time. I ended putting the extra money towards an amp though, but no regrets. I will probably come back around to getting a baritone. Really cool guitars, and a great way to "rethink" how you play.

Fred_C
11-27-2006, 08:51 PM
Chris, was yours the green longhorn? If so, I saw it, and it was one of the things that has really got me looking. My timing has really been off lately on a number of good deals I have seen around here!

z3
11-27-2006, 08:57 PM
copperburst JJ longhorn here w/ the no longer available rosewood bridge. i wish they still had those available.
but yeah, the jerry jones is a no brainer. not even close. fine guitars despite being made out of glued and stapled poplar frames and masonite fronts and backs. danged fine.

Chris T
11-27-2006, 09:17 PM
Chris, was yours the green longhorn? If so, I saw it, and it was one of the things that has really got me looking. My timing has really been off lately on a number of good deals I have seen around here!

Yep that was it. I just couldn't warm up to the baritone idea-I was just lost on it but the guitar itself played and sounded great. I still have two Jerry Jones guitars-a two pickup single cutaway and a three pickup shorthorn-and just think the world of Jerry Jones guitars.

GuitarDiscountCenter
11-28-2006, 10:37 AM
One problem I have had with reissue dano guitars is that the bridges are cast with some cheap metal and they collapse.

KRosser
11-29-2006, 06:00 PM
Yes, the Jerry Jones is ten times the guitar at twice the price.

James
11-29-2006, 06:59 PM
+1 :dude

PlexiBreath
11-29-2006, 09:11 PM
Lets start with the thinner finish of the Jerry Jones, just like the old Danelectros making them much more resonant. The Jerry Jones lipstick pickups are sublime! If you really want a Danelectro, get the real deal (an old one), or a Jerry Jones. The new Danelectros to the old ones are like comparing a Squire to a '58 Stratocaster.

z3
11-30-2006, 09:59 AM
Lets start with the thinner finish of the Jerry Jones, just like the old Danelectros making them much more resonant.

and once U hear the beautiful sound of that masonite top resonating....
well, there's no going back.
i have a shorthorn w/ 3 PUPs and the neck PUP may be the sweetest sounding neck PUP on all my guitars. think of those classic strat neck PUP sounds and multiply it times the square root of evil. i know that we're supposed to be talkin' about baritone guitars, but...
OH MY GAWD!!!

KRosser
04-19-2007, 12:11 AM
and once U hear the beautiful sound of that masonite top resonating....
well, there's no going back.
i have a shorthorn w/ 3 PUPs and the neck PUP may be the sweetest sounding neck PUP on all my guitars. think of those classic strat neck PUP sounds and multiply it times the square root of evil. i know that we're supposed to be talkin' about baritone guitars, but...
OH MY GAWD!!!

Dude - Jerry Jones' lipstick pickups are the best-kept secret in guitar history....I love those things....

z3
04-19-2007, 04:29 AM
^^^
geez ken, what a coincidence.
i was just finishing tracking a project and i made liberal use of my jerry jones guitars. the other guitar picker had one of the modern danelectro's and absolutely everybody was falling over themselves from the tones i was getting. i was thinking that i needed to use the JJ's more often as they've been ignored a bit over the last year.
then U resurrect this 'nugget' from last year.
funny thing is, the new guitars have essentially the same PUPs. i really don't hear much of a difference from mine, which are 10+ years old. i wish they still did the non-adjustable rosewood bridge. there's a bit more of a twang factor than the adjustable 'neptune' bridge.

Kalalau Hiker
04-19-2007, 06:48 AM
I have a Ibanez Mike Mushok Baritone that is an EXCELLENT value - I love it -

it plays and sounds excellent and with the natural wood top and no inlays - is an elegant looker IMHO

http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0_mall/key/cabinet/itemimg05/img12918888.jpg?_ex=250x250&s=2&r=1

z3
04-19-2007, 08:10 AM
it plays and sounds excellent and with the natural wood top and no inlays.

but it will never have the tone of a glued and stapled poplar frame w/ masonite top and back.
i really don't care if masonite is and endangered species. just cut 'em down and make more danelectro copies.

KRosser
04-19-2007, 04:50 PM
^^^
geez ken, what a coincidence.
i was just finishing tracking a project and i made liberal use of my jerry jones guitars. the other guitar picker had one of the modern danelectro's and absolutely everybody was falling over themselves from the tones i was getting. i was thinking that i needed to use the JJ's more often as they've been ignored a bit over the last year.
then U resurrect this 'nugget' from last year.
funny thing is, the new guitars have essentially the same PUPs. i really don't hear much of a difference from mine, which are 10+ years old. i wish they still did the non-adjustable rosewood bridge. there's a bit more of a twang factor than the adjustable 'neptune' bridge.

I got so many stories about JJ's guitars and my working life - I have four of them - 3 p/up single cut, 2 p/u 12-string, electric sitar and baritone.

Jerry's current bridge p/u is a tad beefier. I had him send me one to put in my old 3 p/u singlecut and it does keep up with the neck p/up better.

My bari has the old wood bridge - twang city, baby.....

KRosser
04-19-2007, 07:25 PM
Because we're all being sensitive about these things these days, I am not a JJ endorser in any official way and I get no breaks from him at all, on anything....

I'm just an 'unofficial' cheerleader here, sometimes....

z3
04-19-2007, 08:04 PM
I'm just an 'unofficial' cheerleader here, sometimes....

is there even such a thing as a jerry jones endorsement program?
if there is, where do i sign up.
i'd love one of those new ones w/ a bigsby.

KRosser
04-19-2007, 08:21 PM
is there even such a thing as a jerry jones endorsement program?


From what I understand, no...

Kalalau Hiker
04-19-2007, 08:58 PM
but it will never have the tone of a glued and stapled poplar frame w/ masonite top and back.
i really don't care if masonite is and endangered species. just cut 'em down and make more danelectro copies.

:rotflmao:rotflmao

you tree thugger! :BEER

I hear Suhr is starting to use staples to get that ultimate tone!

z3
04-20-2007, 04:53 AM
I hear Suhr is starting to use staples to get that ultimate tone!

U know, it's weird because jerry jones took the original design and only improved it in areas that made practical sense, ie., really nice PUPs that aren't too high output and nicer tuners that don't feel like a POC. the original dano's were a bit 'iffy' from guitar to guitar as well. some weren't very solidly built and because of that have tuning issues (they feel flimsy because they are). the jerry jones maintained the same sort of staple and glue frame construction, but for some reason have achieved extraordinary consistency doing so. poplar is a fairly cheap wood and they could have just taken a poplar blank and routed out tone cavities or whatever, but i'm certain that the tonal qualities would have been affected.

when i'm around the house i play 'unplugged' a lot. the jerry jones are very resonant and a are a pleasure to play unplugged. when one does plug in, they are rewarded w/ a very responsive guitar w/ a very unique voice. sure, playing a guitar w/ a glued and stapled frame and masonite top and back might seem wrong, but if it is wrong, it is a very bad wrong.

highly recommended for those looking for a very funky, stable and well built POC.

KRosser
04-20-2007, 08:10 AM
U know, it's weird because jerry jones took the original design and only improved it in areas that made practical sense, ie., really nice PUPs that aren't too high output and nicer tuners that don't feel like a POC. the original dano's were a bit 'iffy' from guitar to guitar as well. some weren't very solidly built and because of that have tuning issues (they feel flimsy because they are). the jerry jones maintained the same sort of staple and glue frame construction, but for some reason have achieved extraordinary consistency doing so. poplar is a fairly cheap wood and they could have just taken a poplar blank and routed out tone cavities or whatever, but i'm certain that the tonal qualities would have been affected.

when i'm around the house i play 'unplugged' a lot. the jerry jones are very resonant and a are a pleasure to play unplugged. when one does plug in, they are rewarded w/ a very responsive guitar w/ a very unique voice. sure, playing a guitar w/ a glued and stapled frame and masonite top and back might seem wrong, but if it is wrong, it is a very bad wrong.

highly recommended for those looking for a very funky, stable and well built POC.

Whenever I take them out for gigs, people are always surprised at how great those things sound.

Yeah, I agree - he took the Dano 'blueprint' and just did it up right in terms of workmanship and hardware, setup, etc. I will never get rid of any of my JJ's.

jordanL
04-20-2007, 08:15 AM
I own 2 Dano reissues(hodad 12 and bari) and have played a few Jerry Jones guitars. For basement jamming and light amatuer use (I'm a bedroom player) the Dano's get the job done, plus I got them stupid cheap. If I were going to use it seriously, I wouldn't hesitiate to get the Jerry Jones models.

z3
04-20-2007, 08:43 AM
I will never get rid of any of my JJ's.

me neither.

single cut baritone.
double cut 3 PUP.
longhorn 6 string bass.
electric sitar.

i'm kind of lusting after a single cut 2 PUP w/ bigsby.

KRosser
04-20-2007, 11:52 AM
me neither.

single cut baritone.
double cut 3 PUP.
longhorn 6 string bass.
electric sitar.

i'm kind of lusting after a single cut 2 PUP w/ bigsby.

I'm lusting after a double cut 2 p/up, which I'd like to set up for slide, and an octave shorty...

Though I gotta say, whenever I see one of those old bari/6-string doublenecks of his I go weak in the knees...

Chris T
04-20-2007, 12:04 PM
U know, it's weird because jerry jones took the original design and only improved it in areas that made practical sense, ie., really nice PUPs that aren't too high output and nicer tuners that don't feel like a POC. the original dano's were a bit 'iffy' from guitar to guitar as well. some weren't very solidly built and because of that have tuning issues (they feel flimsy because they are). the jerry jones maintained the same sort of staple and glue frame construction, but for some reason have achieved extraordinary consistency doing so. poplar is a fairly cheap wood and they could have just taken a poplar blank and routed out tone cavities or whatever, but i'm certain that the tonal qualities would have been affected.

when i'm around the house i play 'unplugged' a lot. the jerry jones are very resonant and a are a pleasure to play unplugged. when one does plug in, they are rewarded w/ a very responsive guitar w/ a very unique voice. sure, playing a guitar w/ a glued and stapled frame and masonite top and back might seem wrong, but if it is wrong, it is a very bad wrong.

highly recommended for those looking for a very funky, stable and well built POC.

I finally sold off my older Danos for this very reason. As cool as they sound after playing the JJs for a while I got to where I just couldn't stand the feel of the old ones. I still like them for what they are but I really enjoy playing the JJ guitars whereas I felt like I had to fight with the old Danos. The JJ are like the PRS of the POC guitar world IMO..:cool:

Here is a little JJ porn. A very unusual reverse slant version he did a while back for some store...this thing has the chunkiest neck I ever felt on a JJ and it just sounds fantastic in every position..
http://members.aol.com/cwtugwell/jjr.jpg

z3
04-20-2007, 05:21 PM
The JJ are like the PRS of the POC guitar world IMO..:cool:

:D

Here is a little JJ porn. A very unusual reverse slant version he did a while back for some store...this thing has the chunkiest neck I ever felt on a JJ and it just sounds fantastic in every position..

...and the sexy one piece non-adjustable tailpiece i wish they still made available. the neptune bridge is a cool choice, but...
choice, man. gimme a choice.
that's a pretty sexy gee-tar. i've never seen a jerry jones w/ (what i assume is) a volume control on the lower horn. very cool.

I'm lusting after a double cut 2 p/up, which I'd like to set up for slide, and an octave shorty...

just in the past year i've really started to use alternate tunings. i like the actual string gauges to be somewhat consistent for tension. this is requiring the purchase of more guitars for specific tunings.
that's my excuse and i'm sticking to it.

damn U for mentioning the octave shorty.
i have my jaguar and musicmaster strung w/ really light gauge strings and tuned up to a 'soprano' range. great for layering guitars and doing different inversions and stuff.
octave shorty? what???
get thee behind me, satan.

Though I gotta say, whenever I see one of those old bari/6-string doublenecks of his I go weak in the knees...

personal weakness alert...
i have my eBay set up to notify me when 'jerry jones guitar' is listed.
these double necks show up a few times a year and i, too, have a thing for them.
i talk myself out of it by imagining myself tryna sing in as high a range as geddy lee.

KRosser
04-20-2007, 05:45 PM
...and the sexy one piece non-adjustable tailpiece i wish they still made available. the neptune bridge is a cool choice, but...
choice, man. gimme a choice.
that's a pretty sexy gee-tar. i've never seen a jerry jones w/ (what i assume is) a volume control on the lower horn. very cool.



Yeah - methinks that's an old one. I will say, though, I prefer the Neptune bridge to the Gotoh-esque one they use now.


damn U for mentioning the octave shorty.


Dude, that cracked me the f*ck up....


personal weakness alert...
i have my eBay set up to notify me when 'jerry jones guitar' is listed.


You too, huh?

Well, then...I'll see you out on the battlefield....

Chris T
04-20-2007, 05:45 PM
:D



...and the sexy one piece non-adjustable tailpiece i wish they still made available. the neptune bridge is a cool choice, but...
choice, man. gimme a choice.
that's a pretty sexy gee-tar. i've never seen a jerry jones w/ (what i assume is) a volume control on the lower horn. very cool.




I like the one piece bridge better myself. Both mine have it. A while back I had a third JJ with the Neptune bridge and I emailed Jerry Jones about getting a rosewood bridge but they no longer make them and had none left in stock.

Yes that is a master volume control on the lower bout. To be honest I haven't found any real practical use for it. I will probably rewire the beast at some point-put in a three way to control the bridge and neck pickups and use that extra volume control to dial in the middle pickup. Someday...

Kalalau Hiker
04-20-2007, 08:54 PM
check THIS OUT : how bout tacky but over priced ... kind of a Danelectro at PRS price - for the TRUE gasaholic masochist!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230118795201&indexURL=0&photoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting

http://i14.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/8e/44/1860_3.JPG

:):)

KRosser
04-20-2007, 09:50 PM
check THIS OUT : how bout tacky but over priced ... kind of a Danelectro at PRS price - for the TRUE gasaholic masochist!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230118795201&indexURL=0&photoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting

http://i14.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/8e/44/1860_3.JPG

:):)

$3K, huh? No, I don't think so.

Besides, it has sparkles. I don't do sparkly guitars. Ever.

Mondoslug
04-20-2007, 10:01 PM
also posted this on the FDP, hoping to get as much input as I can. Also hope this is posted in the right place here. I've been lookinng at baritones lately and considering these two. It seems used dano baritones go for around $275-375, and used Jerry Jones for around $500-700. Is the improved quality of Jerry Jones instruments worth this, and if so, why? Thanks for any help!
The quality, playability, intonation, sound...all of it. Yes it's worth it.
I just picked this up this week. Very pleased.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d38/mostlyslim/BariWhole.jpg

Crazyquilt
04-22-2007, 10:51 AM
Jerry Jones. It's definitely worth it. I've got a 90s RI Convertible, which is quite cool, but my Jerry Jones Neptune is a far superior instrument. And it's super cool. :cool

walterw
04-26-2007, 12:34 AM
i'm the proud owner of a "pre-dano" (90's) singlecut two pickup with the neptune bridge, and it rules! i won't insult you guys with crappy cell-phone photos, but it's a lovely all-copper color neck and body.

i actually tried a bunch of different pickups in it, ending up with the duncan lipstick set, which sounds fantastic for a "lo-fi", roots-rock sound. more powerful than stock, but still possessing that diffuse twangy sparkle that doesn't hurt like a tele can.

my only complaint is that the neck is wide and thin, instead of round and fat. is that how the necks are on your older jj's?

the post dano jj's with the diecast keys and newer type bridge don't seem quite as cool, as if the flood of new $200 danos made it hard for jerry j to spend as much time with each one of his far better instruments. am i wrong?

rorschah
04-26-2007, 01:12 PM
Danos are toys. Fun toys. But toys.

Jerry Jones has slowly sneaked past my strats, teles, 335... it may be my favorite guitar.

z3
04-26-2007, 01:19 PM
the post dano jj's with the diecast keys and newer type bridge don't seem quite as cool, as if the flood of new $200 danos made it hard for jerry j to spend as much time with each one of his far better instruments. am i wrong?

U have to go for the "JJ Originals" (http://www.jerryjonesguitars.com/JJ%20Original.htm) to get the real goodness going on.

http://www.jerryjonesguitars.com/JJorigPG3.jpg

Crazyquilt
04-26-2007, 01:48 PM
Yep. Take out the middle pickup, and that Shorthorn is the guitar I've got, not a Neptune as I said above. :jo A lot of my favorite guitars have had to grow on me, but that JJ grabbed me from the first time I strummed it. Right now, I have it strung with 11 Chromes (flatwounds) and I generally keep it in DADGAD.

wsaraceni
04-26-2007, 02:03 PM
i like the looks and feel of the jerry jones baritone

Chris T
04-26-2007, 02:23 PM
i'm the proud owner of a "pre-dano" (90's) singlecut two pickup with the neptune bridge, and it rules! i won't insult you guys with crappy cell-phone photos, but it's a lovely all-copper color neck and body.



Like this?

http://members.aol.com/cwtugwell/jj2.jpg

z3
04-26-2007, 02:39 PM
http://members.aol.com/cwtugwell/jj2.jpg

i want that tailpiece.

walterw
04-26-2007, 08:20 PM
that's it! except mine has the neptune tailpiece, just like that one except with 6 metal barrel saddles for intonation. the new strat-style bridge just doesn't look right to me.

i know that wood bridge saddle seems to be coveted, but i prefer my metal ones, and have made bone and even brass replacement saddles for people with good results, i.e., kept the character, but added clarity and sustain.

wsaraceni
11-26-2010, 10:10 AM
bumping an old thread. i'm jonesing for a JJ bari. does anyone know if he is making both bodies now or just the old dano style. im a much bigger fan of the more edgy ones like pictured above in blue.

p.j.
11-27-2010, 04:17 AM
One problem I have had with reissue dano guitars is that the bridges are cast with some cheap metal and they collapse.

You can replace the bridges w/ something decent. I had my luthier switch out the bridge in my DC-3 so now it is string-through like a tele. It makes a big difference in both the sound and the sustain. Danos are cool because they are cheap and fun to mod. I also switched out the tuners for some locking tuners. I still probably paid less for the guitar and all the mods than I would have for a Jerry Jones.

PJ

EuroCool
11-28-2010, 07:58 AM
The edgy body ones are the more recent JJ models.
I love my JJ black longhorn 6 string bass but the real 50's Danos, Silvertones & Corals are where it's at IMO. also had 90's Dano reissues... I like the ones by Jaydawg, here.

wsaraceni
12-01-2010, 12:39 PM
bumping an old thread. i'm jonesing for a JJ bari. does anyone know if he is making both bodies now or just the old dano style. im a much bigger fan of the more edgy ones like pictured above in blue.


for anyone wondering. i emailed JJ and his reply was that he can still make them.

roverover
01-14-2012, 03:10 PM
I was hoping to find a Neptune or JJ Baritone Guitar, Bigbsy is preferred but without is ok too... I prefer a clean example, If anyone wants to sell one, please let me know. I Will pay STRONGLY for a Nice one.