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trisonic
11-02-2003, 10:54 PM
Can I be the first "poster" of a megalength thread extolling the virtues of Bill's guitars? NO? Too bad.
Someone stick some clips here, ho,ho.

Pete.

abergdahl
11-03-2003, 01:32 AM
Here's a link to the collection of Chapin Clips and pics.

Enjoy.. Let's see how long this thread can get.:D

abergdahl
11-03-2003, 03:16 AM
Well it's REALLY early here in Stockholm so i guess i was a bit sleepy and kinda forgot the link, well well.

I few new pics of Chapins will be even scarier than you're dog, at least for the wife :D

cnardone
11-03-2003, 06:35 AM
riley looks mad. Did you take his bone? Yes more pics please. Actually I find the sounds are more interestings. Gives me more things to think about.

TNJ
11-03-2003, 07:53 AM
Hey Bill,
When our kitty kat Meer gets that look, my wife calls him 'Devil Eyes'. :D
Nice doggie you have there!
Oh...and your guitars are super nice too! :cool:
S.
j

trisonic
11-03-2003, 08:01 AM
Originally posted by Shades
Riley Guardian of the Hoarded Tonewoods

Riley and I should get on well, our eyes are the same colour.

Pete.

hawkeyeinexile
11-03-2003, 10:00 AM
my Chapin Hawk:

http://www.rjsanders.com/guitars/Chapin_Hawk/jeffcomplete2.jpg

mahogany bod, black limba neck, RW board, walnut pickguard w/hand-carved matching walnut pickup covers from the same hunka wood. love the Earvana nut & locking tuners, too. Gibsonesque 24 5/8" scale, big@$$ neck profile (.980).

rings like this! (http://www.hsdejong.nl/burma/mandalay/target_pages/mingun_bell.html) :eek:

:cool:

TNJ
11-03-2003, 11:25 AM
Beautiful!
What make of p90's?
S.
j

hawkeyeinexile
11-03-2003, 11:34 AM
Originally posted by TNJ
Beautiful!
What make of p90's?
S.
j

Harmonic Design & i forget if they're P90 or VP90 or what... - Bill?

and btw, all you rascally Hawk owners (there are several of you here now) - i'm still the only one with a review on Harmony Central. time to spread the word amongst the poor benighted types who haven't found their way here. :D

:cool:

abergdahl
11-03-2003, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by hawkeyeinexile
Harmonic Design & i forget if they're P90 or VP90 or what... - Bill?

and btw, all you rascally Hawk owners (there are several of you here now) - i'm still the only one with a review on Harmony Central. time to spread the word amongst the poor benighted types who haven't found their way here. :D

:cool:

Soon..

VetteLover
11-03-2003, 09:32 PM
Well, here's Strata-Houla #2 I've barely played anything else since it arrived . . . I love this thing :D

http://www.jfrancis.net/family/latest/chapin1.jpg

Dr Rico
11-04-2003, 09:44 AM
No problemo, hermano:


http://chapinguitars.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/media/ricohawk1.jpg

Slow Burn Hawk both humbuckers together, Two Rock octal prototype: http://www.chapinguitars.com/sounds/riconeckbridge1.mp3

Slow Burn Hawk neck humbucker, Two Rock octal prototype: http://www.chapinguitars.com/sounds/riconeck1.mp3

Slow Burn Hawk Bridge Pickup, Two Rock octal prototype: http://www.chapinguitars.com/sounds/ricobridge1.mp3

Slow Burn Hawk bridge clip 2, Gjika mini-amp through a Dr Z Z28 into a single greenback reissue: http://www.chapinguitars.com/sounds/RicobridgeBJB.mp3

Slow Burn hawk through several switch positions, Gjika mini-amp through a Dr Z Z28 into a single greenback reissue: http://www.chapinguitars.com/sounds/RicoBJB2.mp3

Slow Burn hawk with Cornell 45/50 on 45 side: http://www.chapinguitars.com/sounds/Ricornell1.mp3

Slow Burn Hawk bridge pickup with Komet 60 (6L6s): http://www.chapinguitars.com/sounds/Rikomet.mp3

Slow burn Hawk with Komet 60 (6l6s): http://www.chapinguitars.com/sounds/Rikbeckomet.mp3

Slow Burn Hawk bridge pickup with Komet 60 (6L6s): http://www.chapinguitars.com/sounds/Rikbeckomet.mp3

Slow Burn Hawk unplugged. Remember this is an unplugged solidbody: http://www.chapinguitars.com/sounds/Ricounplugged.mp3

Slow Burn hawk straight into the Z28: http://www.chapinguitars.com/sounds/Ricoz28.mp3

Slow Burn Hawk semi-clean cornell 45 side clip: http://www.chapinguitars.com/sounds/RicoBBDC1.mp3

abergdahl
11-05-2003, 04:50 PM
A HC reveiw is posted, shuld be there in a day or two...

http://www.chapinguitars.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/media/andershawkHZ2.jpg

merkenball
11-05-2003, 09:19 PM
Great pics! More please.

bluesdoc
11-05-2003, 09:58 PM
Beautiful, just gorgeous axes, Bill and all. Jeff, yours is amazing looking!!

jon

abergdahl
11-06-2003, 03:51 AM
My HC reveiw can be found here (http://www.harmony-central.com/Guitar/Data4/Chapin-Guitars/Hawk-01.html) .
Bill feel free to quote.

abergdahl
11-06-2003, 12:35 PM
I will try to take some pictures soon.

abergdahl
11-07-2003, 04:39 PM
Bill,

You have mentioned a Spruce top Hawk, what’s the thought around that - body material, what sound are you aiming for etc.

BTW all that haven't noticed there are even more Hawk clips on my Soundclick page, some are even "Shades approved" :D

Thanks...

abergdahl
11-07-2003, 05:51 PM
So IF i was looking for a guitar with a smooth yet open sound that would sound good clean or overdriven with a big sound and dynamics, tones like RF or Carlton 335 but with more wood in the tone, would the Spruce Fatline Hawk be a good match?

IF i was looking ;) :rolleyes:

abergdahl
11-07-2003, 06:02 PM
Well i guess that BLUE is not an option so I'm safe..or :confused:

jzb
11-07-2003, 06:11 PM
harumph!

Not a lefty in the bunch.

Your not a rightist are you?

Dr Rico
11-07-2003, 06:50 PM
Be the first to step up to the plate to order a lefty!

Stevo57
11-07-2003, 06:52 PM
Bill, When are the D-Dogs gonna be in production? I really liked the body shape on the prototype! One of those in the same styling as Jeffs Hawk would have to be mine. Is #2 or #3 already spoken for? I think a lot of people are going to dig that body style.

Stevo57
11-07-2003, 07:59 PM
Time is not a problem. I'll lay claim to #3 cuz threes a charm. It'll give more time for putting the dough together anyway. We can discuss next Sunday at the Tonefest. Any progress with the SG?

trisonic
11-07-2003, 08:24 PM
That Left handed Strata Houla looks magnificant, Bill, totally stunning - I am certain that it will sound even better - makes me almost wish I had stayed a Lefty as opposed to a Lefty/Righty!

Glad you are so busy, that's important these days, take some time off for the family though, yer hear?

Pete.

Dr Rico
11-07-2003, 08:38 PM
Originally posted by Shades
http://chapinguitars.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/media/leftahoula.jpg

I'm SOOOOOOOOOOO glad I'm not a lefty...my bank account just can't take it, Bill.

Very pretty.

jzb
11-07-2003, 08:41 PM
um...actually... how much does a lefty strata-houla cost any way?

-j

:confused:

Shades
11-07-2003, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by jzb
um...actually... how much does a lefty strata-houla cost any way?

-j

:confused: Lefties start at $2599, with the maple top, etc it's $2775

jzb
11-07-2003, 08:48 PM
:eek:

jzb
11-07-2003, 09:02 PM
Originally posted by Shades
is that a good:eek: or a bad :eek: ?

:D

Let's just say I don't see a Chapin in my future. I'd spend that kinda money on recording gear well before a single guitar. I've never paid more than $800 for any instrument.


LP studio with Wagner Filmore set ($650 + $250 for pups)
Mexi-Strat ($325)
Ovation Elite (US made) ($315 a steal @ daddy's)
Kinal fretless & headless bass ($300 on FleaBay)

theFaf
11-07-2003, 11:54 PM
Bill,

That Lefta-houla is a real looker. I'm sure it'll sound even better than it looks too. :)

Scott

Shades
11-08-2003, 02:31 AM
Originally posted by Stevo57
Any progress with the SG? I should have it done by wednesday.

VetteLover
11-08-2003, 07:14 AM
Originally posted by jzb
Let's just say I don't see a Chapin in my future. I'd spend that kinda money on recording gear well before a single guitar. I've never paid more than $800 for any instrument.
Fair enough.

I've got an 85 MIJ 62 reissue Strat that sounds great. But it doesn't even come close to my Chapin Strata-Houla in terms of feel, playability or tone. Also, fine instruments are inspirational to play (and some of us need all the inspiration we can get) :BluesBros

jzb
11-08-2003, 07:27 AM
Originally posted by VetteLover
Fair enough.

I've got an 85 MIJ 62 reissue Strat that sounds great. But it doesn't even come close to my Chapin Strata-Houla in terms of feel, playability or tone. Also, fine instruments are inspirational to play (and some of us need all the inspiration we can get) :BluesBros

The way I see it: Since I suck as a guitarist anyway I don't see what a $3k guitar is gonna do for me. I too want a good feeling guitar to play. I don't really play for others, just myself. It's my therapy if you please.

It's sticker shock I guess. No offence to Mr. Chapin. I'm sure the price is fair for the craftmanship and time that goes into each piece.

ymmv

-j

VetteLover
11-08-2003, 08:07 AM
Quite understand that - no flame intended. I'm pretty much in the same boat as a guitarist, but my point was that a really nice guitar can make you a better player, which in my case is not difficult :D

trisonic
11-08-2003, 08:40 AM
You know they are really quite reasonable compared to any other totally hand crafted guitar - Bill starts from scratch not from a rack of CNC made necks and bodies.

Anyone bought a professsional quality Violin or Cello lately? Jeez, they are really expensive!

Best, Pete.

Stevo57
11-08-2003, 09:31 AM
I want one so folks will concentrate on the new shiny thing I'm holding and the awesome tones coming out of my equally priced amp instead of my under achieving playing!

Really, pictures don't come close to doing Bills work justice.

Michael
11-08-2003, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by jzb
I'd spend that kinda money on recording gear well before a single guitar. I've never paid more than $800 for any instrument.

I can certainly understand that. I felt the same way for many years. This is a personal decision that really depends on how important your playing is in your life. I can only relate my experience over 46 years of playing, after having tried just about everything, starting with 50's Les Pauls and continuing through a number of the "custom" builders building today.

For me, Bill's instruments have taken the enjoyment of playing to a completely different level. The instruments feel so wonderful and sensual to play, and sound so magical, that your playing just naturally progresses beyond what you've done before. I can't wait to get into the studio every day. It is just a totally different experience, and a real blessing.

I might also add that the process of designing the guitar with Bill, based on the particular tones you are seeking, is in itself a wonderful learning experience. You end up with a guitar that does just what you want.

As you can tell, I am a believer. It is hard to adequately communicate this, unless you have talked with Bill and played his guitars.
Mike

hawkeyeinexile
11-08-2003, 01:33 PM
Originally posted by abergdahl
My HC reveiw can be found here (http://www.harmony-central.com/Guitar/Data4/Chapin-Guitars/Hawk-01.html) .
Bill feel free to quote.

very nicely done, Anders. i'm diggin' on the new clips, too...

:cool:

hawkeyeinexile
11-08-2003, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by bluesdoc
Beautiful, just gorgeous axes, Bill and all. Jeff, yours is amazing looking!!

jon

hey, jon, that's the one that's got all the chatoyancy. :dude: subtle, amazing cat's eyes beneath the surface as the light plays over it :angel. it's been my numero uno most of this year (got it in March).

:cool:

hawkeyeinexile
11-08-2003, 02:12 PM
so, in anticipation of my fourth Chapin arriving, the humbucking :Devil Dog, i'm struggling with the choice of which one to gig with: Hawk, 'houla, 'bird, or ba-ad doggie...so, i've come up with this:

if the gig is North (+/- 45o), it's the DD,
if the gig is South (+/- 45o), the Hawk,
if the gig is West (+/- 45o), Strata-houla,
if the gig is East (+/- 45o), T-bird.

howzat? (rhetorical)

:JAM

:cool:

VetteLover
11-08-2003, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by hawkeyeinexile
if the gig is North (+/- 45o), it's the DD,
if the gig is South (+/- 45o), the Hawk,
if the gig is West (+/- 45o), Strata-houla,
if the gig is East (+/- 45o), T-bird.
Tough decisions . . . :D :RoCkIn

trisonic
11-08-2003, 06:41 PM
jeff,
Which Pick ups and finish are you having on the Devil Dog?
Pete.

hawkeyeinexile
11-08-2003, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by trisonic
jeff,
Which Pick ups and finish are you having on the Devil Dog?
Pete.

well, right now i'm leaning toward a Beelzebucker in the neck and maybe a Powertron in the bridge, but haven't really decided. finish will be natural rub. but the big decisions are going to be scale length (24" vs. 24.6") and neck profile. i love the .980 on my Hawk and the .870 on my T-bird. maybe i'll split the difference. and, of course, there's Bill's guidance to rely on. warmth, clarity, pop&snap, sustain are key.

:cool:

decay-o-caster
11-08-2003, 11:04 PM
Bill is a bad bad person. There's a Gibson scale-length Stratahoula due to be completed any day now with a stealth P90 in the bridge, red stained mahogany, and a korina neck w/ blackwood board that's got me gnashing my teeth. :mad:

Fortunately, I'm not a Strat guy. I'm telling myself that, but it's not proving to be the safety net it always has been in the past. I fear that if I play that guitar once it's done, bad bad things might happen... :(

trisonic
11-09-2003, 08:42 AM
Originally posted by hawkeyeinexile
well, right now i'm leaning toward a Beelzebucker in the neck and maybe a Powertron in the bridge, but haven't really decided. finish will be natural rub. but the big decisions are going to be scale length (24" vs. 24.6") and neck profile. i love the .980 on my Hawk and the .870 on my T-bird. maybe i'll split the difference. and, of course, there's Bill's guidance to rely on. warmth, clarity, pop&snap, sustain are key.

:cool:

I want to try a 24" Scale. You've seen the Devil Dog proto in the "flesh" - is it smaller, bodywise, than the Hawk?

Pete.

hawkeyeinexile
11-09-2003, 08:52 AM
Originally posted by trisonic
I want to try a 24" Scale. You've seen the Devil Dog proto in the "flesh" - is it smaller, bodywise, than the Hawk?

Pete.

yeah, i stop by about once a week and hold it in playing position, just to remind me the wait is worth it. of course, that only aggravates things.:rolleyes:

i'm waiting on a re-try of Amitar's Rustic Hawk to help me decide. if i go 24", i'll also go with a longer string length Bill's proposed. yes, the body is noticeably smaller than the Hawk, which is somewhat smaller than a T-bird.

:cool:

hawkeyeinexile
11-09-2003, 09:09 AM
Originally posted by decay-o-caster
Bill is a bad bad person. There's a Gibson scale-length Stratahoula due to be completed any day now with a stealth P90 in the bridge, red stained mahogany, and a korina neck w/ blackwood board that's got me gnashing my teeth. :mad:

...

mm-hmm...and tell us how it felt, d-o-c...:D


:cool:

decay-o-caster
11-09-2003, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by hawkeyeinexile
mm-hmm...and tell us how it felt, d-o-c...:D


:cool:

[gulp!]

oh, um, well, feather-light, since you ask. why?

:(

hawkeyeinexile
11-09-2003, 03:22 PM
Originally posted by decay-o-caster
[gulp!]

oh, um, well, feather-light, since you ask. why?

:(

hmmm, beautiful color, select woods, feather light, classic shapes. hmmm....y'know, i never thought of m'se'f as a strat-type guy either. till i got my strata-houla. then after i got my second strata-houla, well...

(i hear a little voice telling you, "go ahead, d-o-c...everything will oh-ka-ay...") :p

:cool:

trisonic
11-11-2003, 09:54 AM
jeff,
Did you hear Anders' Hawk thru the Mystic Blue amp yet? I must say that I was pleasently surprised by the tone being that I am normally totally prejudiced against that sort of amplifier:AOK

Just showed me once again to keep open ears, open mind.....

Pete.

hawkeyeinexile
11-11-2003, 10:18 AM
Originally posted by trisonic
jeff,
Did you hear Anders' Hawk thru the Mystic Blue amp yet? I must say that I was pleasently surprised by the tone being that I am normally totally prejudiced against that sort of amplifier:AOK

Just showed me once again to keep open ears, open mind.....

Pete.

yeah, about an hour ago. tough to keep up here, what with the recent influx & all. me, i'm on the lookout for a do-it-all EL84 amp, so, looking forward to the Tonefest Sunday. there'll be some good'uns there...

:cool:

trisonic
11-11-2003, 11:07 AM
jeff,

Can you (and Bill) check out the Aikens for me? I am looking for that DC 45/50 sound in a smaller package (yeah I know Dean said there is a ten watt on the way).

The "Tom Cat" and "Europa" look interesting also Randall Aiken is using a new Greenback type design in his cabinets. Sorry to be so demanding!

You know what sound I like.....those clips of Bill with the DC plus the Gijka - Z28 and Z28 standalone.

Thanks, I know it will be hard work!

Pete.

hawkeyeinexile
11-11-2003, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by trisonic
jeff,

Can you (and Bill) check out the Aikens for me?
...


o-oh, very well. if i must...:rolleyes:

:dude

:cool:

abergdahl
11-11-2003, 01:57 PM
Guess who is learning that one Chapin is not enough :D

Intense mailing is going on between Sweden and San Jose.. Spruce top, Hawk, 24.6 more decisions to be made...

hawkeyeinexile
11-11-2003, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by abergdahl
Guess who is learning that one Chapin is not enough :D

Intense mailing is going on between Sweden and San Jose.. Spruce top, Hawk, 24.6 more decisions to be made...

:dude

and carved top, maybe? ;)


:cool:

abergdahl
11-11-2003, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by hawkeyeinexile


and carved top, maybe? ;)


:cool:


and Shades, but that will be the ONLY inlay.
Let's put it like this, If Chinery was alive it would fit in his collection of blue guitars, now it will fit inte my Blue Guitar Collection :cool:

Michael
11-11-2003, 07:57 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by abergdahl
[B]Guess who is learning that one Chapin is not enough :D

Alas, history repeatedly tells us that one is never enough. :dude

Mike

abergdahl
11-12-2003, 06:34 AM
Originally posted by Michael
[QUOTE]Originally posted by abergdahl
[B]Guess who is learning that one Chapin is not enough :D

Alas, history repeatedly tells us that one is never enough.

Mike

I just caught my self thinking about replacing all of my guitars with Chapins, not the Roukangas, but the others. One Les Paul jr sounding Hawk, a Albert Lee hardtail sounding guitar, and so on. I most think of something else or i will be...broke and :NUTS

Bill has put the spell on me

Also for the new project i wanted a light blue burst, Bill suggested dark blue and gold, i said NOPE i want a whiter shade of blue, now I'm ordering a Black'n'Blue with gold hardware or if possible all black "hardware" (a blackwood bridge have been mentioned, we don't know if it's possible).
This is a color ideas:
http://members.cox.net/kwakefield1/hollenbeck/Ebonynblue.jpg
Here's another cool, hot, blue:
http://www.manzer.com/media/manzerjpg/22.m294.jpg

hawkeyeinexile
11-12-2003, 08:54 AM
Originally posted by abergdahl
I just caught my self thinking about replacing all of my guitars with Chapins, not the Roukangas, but the others. One Les Paul jr sounding Hawk, a Albert Lee hardtail sounding guitar, and so on. I most think of something else or i will be...broke and :NUTS
...

another fine example of advanced thinking.

me, i'd like a 12-string and a fretless bass. and a job... :eek:

:cool:

trisonic
11-12-2003, 09:23 AM
Anders and jeff,

Part of the fun (or a way to pass the time until one can order) is to plan in your head the new guitar (so long as you are not making sandwiches for your daughter, see passim).

My current "proposed" Chapin consists of:

Devil Dog, 24" inch fixed neck, Translucent Red to Black burst, probably Mahogany, Blackwood Fretboard - now get this two Beelzebuckers!
I've been losing sleep over the switching options...............:YinYang

Naturally by this afternoon I'll be back to Stratahoula, 2-tone Sunburst, p90 in bridge etc., bloody, etc.

What impresses me most about Anders is that he is unswerving in knowing what he wants, sort of, well Blue anyway.

Pete.

hawkeyeinexile
11-12-2003, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by trisonic
Anders and jeff,

Part of the fun (or a way to pass the time until one can order) is to plan in your head the new guitar (so long as you are not making sandwiches for your daughter, see passim).

...

this morning i made a sandwich for my daughter. peanut butter and jelly. shaped like a Devil Dog. 1/12 scale. really.


no, really.

;)

:cool:

abergdahl
11-12-2003, 10:54 AM
I LOVE it when bill write like this:
"The Korina Neck because is is similar to mahagany, lighter weight (avoids
the neck heavy possible issues with guitars this light) has a bit more
foucus to the upper mids (allows the alder to be smooth without going muddy)
and has a bit tighter tone (the hollow and the spruce should get you plenty
of roundness, the korina keeps it together)"
The KING of tone woods.

My new Hawk will probably have hollow alder body, carved spruce top, Blackwood finger board and as you can see above a Korina neck :cool:

Shades
11-12-2003, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by abergdahl
I LOVE it when bill write like this:
"The Korina Neck because is is similar to mahagany, lighter weight (avoids
the neck heavy possible issues with guitars this light) has a bit more
foucus to the upper mids (allows the alder to be smooth without going muddy)
and has a bit tighter tone (the hollow and the spruce should get you plenty
of roundness, the korina keeps it together)"
The KING of tone woods.

My new Hawk will probably have hollow alder body, carved spruce top, Blackwood finger board and as you can see above a Korina neck :cool: note to self..spell check emails in the morning

Michael
11-12-2003, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by abergdahl
I just caught my self thinking about replacing all of my guitars with Chapins, not the Roukangas, but the others.

Anders, this is exactly what I am in the process of doing. I have sold all my other guitars except for two: 1979 Les Paul Custom and 1976 Travis Bean Artist. And I have only kept these two for sentimental reasons; both stay in their cases in another room.

In the studio, there are only Chapins, and more are on the way. Bill's masterpieces are just in a world of their own.................and we get to reside there and play 'em. :cool:
Mike

decay-o-caster
11-12-2003, 04:20 PM
Yah, every once in a while I start thinking about branching out into non-Chapin brand guitars again. The Hamer guys are making a good case, obviously the Lentz folk have a lot of love for what he's up to, and I bet we can all name another brand or two that causes each of us GAStronomic pain.

Then I think, why bother? No one's going to make me better necks (for my playing, at least), no one seems to be quite as pathologically intimate with the tonewood matchups, and no one seems to be quite as sneaky about pickup choices.

Bill's just a freakin' magician...

hawkeyeinexile
11-12-2003, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by decay-o-caster
...
Then I think, why bother? No one's going to make me better necks (for my playing, at least), no one seems to be quite as pathologically intimate with the tonewood matchups, and no one seems to be quite as sneaky about pickup choices.

Bill's just a freakin' magician...

hey, guess what i saw today (i stopped by briefly to pay a balance on a Beelzebucker) - that purty li'l red 'houla w/the golden gleamers fore and aft...yessir, that's one purty little filly. just about ready for electronifications... ;)

:cool:

decay-o-caster
11-12-2003, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by hawkeyeinexile
hey, guess what i saw today (i stopped by briefly to pay a balance on a Beelzebucker) - that purty li'l red 'houla w/the golden gleamers fore and aft...yessir, that's one purty little filly. just about ready for electronifications... ;)

:cool:

LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!
I CAN'T HEEEAAARRRR YOU!!!

:(

I saw it too when I dropped off the ol' Fatline for Bill to do some clippage with it. It was Very Bad for decay's eyes...

:(

trisonic
11-13-2003, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by hawkeyeinexile
that purty li'l red 'houla w/the golden gleamers fore and aft...yessir, that's one purty little filly. just about ready for electronifications... ;)

:cool:

jeff,
What are Golden Gleamers? I thought you meant P'ups until I read electronifications?

Pete.

Shades
11-13-2003, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by trisonic
jeff,
What are Golden Gleamers? I thought you meant P'ups until I read electronifications?

Pete. I'm gonna go with either tuners or hardware.

hawkeyeinexile
11-13-2003, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by trisonic
jeff,
What are Golden Gleamers? I thought you meant P'ups until I read electronifications?

Pete.

the hardware. forgive me, i was rhapsodizifying...

y'hear that rhapsody, d-o-c?

hey, how come my devil emoticons don't work? :rolleyes:

:cool:

decay-o-caster
11-13-2003, 02:19 PM
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP!!! :(

You know, as depressing as it is to be incapable of buying new guitars right now, at least I know he'll be making some new, equally depressing ones down the road when I can swing the cash to make another one happen. But then it'll just get worse. Because, much as I'd like to, you can't buy them all!

So I desperately need an exact match to BrewBeck's Tele-Gib, one just like the red 'Houla that's under discussion, an LPJr-Hawk, an Albert Collins TBird, a Keef-Bird...

But if I get even one of those, just knowing the others exist (or could exist) would make me crazy too! This SUCKS!!! :mad:

hawkeyeinexile
11-13-2003, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by decay-o-caster
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP!!! :(

... This SUCKS!!! ...


:p

:cool:

hawkeyeinexile
11-13-2003, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by Shades
... off volume 8:00 gradual mode....in other words you are really hearing the Gjika)
...

so, how was the ambient loudness? comparable to the London Power mod maybe?

:cool:

decay-o-caster
11-13-2003, 05:48 PM
so how come it doesn't sound like that when i play it?!?

i mean, aside from details like lack of chops, taste, talent...

Shades
11-13-2003, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by hawkeyeinexile
so, how was the ambient loudness? comparable to the London Power mod maybe?

:cool: Ambient loudness is roughy 3 times the volume of the guitar unplugged.

On the other end of the universe.

Baconfat clean clip (http://www.chapinguitars.com/sounds/BFOCclean1.mp3)

trisonic
11-13-2003, 06:06 PM
Aaah, at last an "Homage to Pete" - I missed the "Blue Moon"?
That was one of the tunes whereby I learnt riffery. I was just listening to the BBC version too.

What I love about your guitars is the way they handle clean and distorted equally, I don't think any of mine do that so well at all, regardless of how expensive they may be.
Your cleans have such an inherent beauty as to make the most ardent heavy metaller give up his craft....as you can tell I loved the clean clip!

David has a nice guitar.

Best, Pete.

Shades
11-14-2003, 05:25 PM
same setup Rhythm both Z90s plus the middle strat coil, single line middle single coil alone.
Bacon fat clean clip #2 (http://www.chapinguitars.com/sounds/BFOCclean2.mp3)

Shades
11-14-2003, 06:12 PM
Anders upcoming carved top spruce Hawk will actually take The basic tones of doc's but bigger,sweeter, rounder, more sustain and better archtop type tones. I'm really psyched about them. The internal design evolved out of our nylon string acoustic guitars, and studying a handful of new approaches to Jazz archtop design from several very talented archtop makers (Ribbecke, Sakashta, and a couple of others) However, doc's will still have the better strat on steroids tones, raw growl, and mean rock and roll tones.

cnardone
11-14-2003, 06:28 PM
Every single guitar you build has this incredible warmth in the clean tones. Beautiful.

cmn

trisonic
11-14-2003, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by Shades
same setup Rhythm both Z90s plus the middle strat coil, single line middle single coil alone.

Gawd, that sounds good, Bill!

I hope Dean Pink Strat listens to that one, sounds right up his street too. That's one of the most beautiful middle P'up sounds I've heard.

Pete.

Shades
11-14-2003, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by cnardone
Every single guitar you build has this incredible warmth in the clean tones. Beautiful.

cmn Thanks Chris. That's really a big part of my aesthetic as a builder. I'm a clean tone freak (though lord knows I love dirty tone too.) Compared to the Baconfatocaster, your upcoming Fatline (between the woods, the shorter scale, the smoother pickups, set neck and the design changes to the chamber and top) will be a bit warmer and fuller still. Where doc's has more stratty quack.

Shades
11-14-2003, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by trisonic
Gawd, that sounds good, Bill!

I hope Dean Pink Strat listens to that one, sounds right up his street too. That's one of the most beautiful middle P'up sounds I've heard.

Pete. Thanks Pete,
The middle pickup on Doc's is the stealth killer. Really it is about voicing the pickup to the design. There are tons of higher regarded pickups out there but for this guitar the duncan voiced out best. I still need to record some who stuff. Doc's fatline has the best tone for who tunes I've ever heard....simply massive and Raw

VetteLover
11-14-2003, 09:12 PM
Bill, that clean clip was really, really, sweet :dude

Can't wait for the Who clips (major Who fan - saw them twice in the UK back in the 70's),

I think we are going to be talking about doubling the Chapin collection real soon . . . . :D :D

trisonic
11-14-2003, 09:20 PM
Do my favourite "The Kids are Alright".

Last time I was back in England when my Mother passed away her lawyer invited me out for a drink and he did this with his band (three piece, two acoustic one harp) with three part harmonies - I'd forgotten what a great song that is - I was astounded; real pro quality from a bunch of lawyers and no PRS in sight!

Pete.

hawkeyeinexile
11-14-2003, 11:40 PM
Originally posted by trisonic
Do my favourite "The Kids are Alright".
...

naw, do "Can't Explain"!:dude


:cool:

hawkeyeinexile
11-14-2003, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by Shades
KIid's alright is probably my favorite who tune but it also unlike the rest of their stuff.....you know Bombastic. Of course, in the end I'll do what I can find a backing track for.

you don't need a 12-string to do "Can't Explain". just plug into a nice fat chorus and make it real wobbly, then a TBIAC and crank it. then maybe another chorus ;) :p

:cool:

abergdahl
11-15-2003, 05:26 AM
Originally posted by Shades
Anders upcoming carved top spruce Hawk will actually take The basic tones of doc's but bigger,sweeter, rounder, more sustain and better archtop type tones. I'm really psyched about them. The internal design evolved out of our nylon string acoustic guitars, and studying a handful of new approaches to Jazz archtop design from several very talented archtop makers (Ribbecke, Sakashta, and a couple of others) However, doc's will still have the better strat on steroids tones, raw growl, and mean rock and roll tones.

WOW, the clips of doc's are amazing, I really like the clean clips. If you lare ooking for a Jazz guitar that can do Strat thing that guitar is a dream guitar!! And the the amazing rocjing almost LesPaul sounding overdrrive tones!
For my next guitar I'm looking for a bigger, rounder tone kind of archtop but better sustain :D .
9 months ... I know it is worth the wait. I can survive by playing the Blue Rider.
And, yes the clean tone of Bills guitars are amazing, i played "Don't let me be mistundertood" with the band using the Hawk and my Mystic Blues, that clean tone is like Robbens but BETTER, kind of Cooders emotional sound combined with the Robben's clear cutting and fat tone. Made ME sound rather good :dude

hawkeyeinexile
11-15-2003, 08:13 AM
Originally posted by abergdahl
... i played "Don't let me be mistundertood" with the band using the Hawk and my Mystic Blues, that clean tone is like Robbens but BETTER...

:BITCH :Spank :eek:


blasphemy!...can it be???


(you betcha)
:cool:

abergdahl
11-15-2003, 08:21 AM
Originally posted by hawkeyeinexile



blasphemy!...can it be???


(you betcha)
:cool:
:D

Well i do feel that the Chapin would make Robben sound better than he sounds with his Tele.:dude

trisonic
11-15-2003, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by abergdahl
:D

Well i do feel that the Chapin would make Robben sound better that he sounds with his Tele.:dude

Someone give him Bill's phone number!
P.

trisonic
11-15-2003, 03:08 PM
What do you record into?

I have just had it loud enough to make my desk shake - Great attack! Dynamics still very nice. Sounds like you've got the tone wound back a tad, that's all.

Pete.

Shades
11-15-2003, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by trisonic
What do you record into? p. I use an e-100 into a mackie 1402 for phantom power into m audio delta1010 into cubase sx

trisonic
11-15-2003, 03:14 PM
What's the "maudio delta1010"? An interface?

Sorry I keep editing! What audio card do you use in the PC?

P.

Shades
11-15-2003, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by trisonic
What's the "maudio delta1010"? An interface?

Sorry I keep editing! What audio card do you use in the PC?

P. M-Audio delta 1010 (http://www.midiman.net/products/m-audio/delt1010.php) The 1010 is basically an 8 in 8 out soundcard, a/d d/a converter, and interface.

if you don't need the 8 in 8 out the delta 4/4 is cool and cheaper by quite a bit

trisonic
11-16-2003, 10:35 AM
Thanks I'll take a look at that and the M-Box (which is protools compatible, so they say...)

Pete.

abergdahl
11-18-2003, 04:54 PM
Time for Bill to start tapping wood :D

hawkeyeinexile
11-18-2003, 05:34 PM
Originally posted by abergdahl
Time for Bill to start tapping wood :D

7!

(lucky dice)

:cool:

Shades
11-18-2003, 11:18 PM
As it effects a few guys here I have an announcement.

Things have been even crazier than normal around here (basically a small crisis) with my finisher moving. I talked to him today and unfortunately everything I shipped him is currently not finished and is making the move with him (which unfortunately means 5 current custom orders as well as most of what we were going to take to NAMM is delayed and won't be completed until after christmas.) I have cancelled my christmas break (with the exception of christmas day itself) to be here to complete all the instruments as promptly as possible upon return from the finisher. I've got wiring harnesses and every other operation I can complete prior to finish set up to greatly reduce the time needed to get these guitars off to their owners. I gave him a list a while back prioritizing the custom orders for completion first. I apologize for the delays if you have an order in with me at this stage of completion. I'm doing everything I can to expedite the process and I'm trying to think of possible extra touches that I might be able to through in for your continued patience.

thanks

trisonic
11-19-2003, 09:23 AM
I'm tempted to take a flight out there just to shlep things around for you for a week to save you some time.

Pete.

DerekMinnich
11-19-2003, 06:29 PM
Bill....just hold on to that neck of mine! I'll have the money in a couple weeks...just been in a huge bind lately...plus, I need the guitar coming up here so hopefully I will be able to get it back to you sooner then later to stick on that neck...I'm going crazy cuz I really want that neck on Linda-Lou.

Shades
11-19-2003, 06:31 PM
don't sweat it derek. whenever

abergdahl
11-20-2003, 10:04 AM
A found a new Texas style backing so i took out my favorite guitar, The Blue Rider, first i use neck PU in HB mode together with bridge, second half is bridge pickup alone.

So guess which two texas guitarist i try to honor :confused: (or maybe they spinn in the grave :D )

TEXAS (http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/abergdahlmusic.htm)

ONE CHAPIN IS NOT ENOUGH..

hawkeyeinexile
11-20-2003, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by abergdahl
A found a new Texas style backing so i took out my favorite guitar, The Blue Rider, first i use neck PU in HB mode together with bridge, second half is bridge pickup alone.

So guess which two texas guitarist i try to honor :confused: (or maybe they spinn in the grave :D )

TEXAS (http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/abergdahlmusic.htm)

ONE CHAPIN IS NOT ENOUGH..


well done, bud. hey i thought i heard 3 - freddie king, jimmy vaughn, and albert collins

:cool:

abergdahl
11-20-2003, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by hawkeyeinexile
well done, bud. hey i thought i heard 3 - freddie king, jimmy vaughn, and albert collins

:cool:
THANKS,

I was trying for Freddie for the first part and Albert for the second, first part is pick and fingers the attempt to play like Collins is all fingers, one take.
Cool that you could hear what i was going for :cool:
Jimmy V, hmm maybe we steal from the same guys, which part sound like him?
Actually Collins was one of the big reasons for getting a Tele years ago...
The bucker really makes this a flexibel guitar.

Waiting for the next Chapin...

trisonic
11-20-2003, 12:55 PM
Anders, Good job - I'm not a big "fan" of Albert Collins, I liked your take on him better!
Of course all Brits love Freddie King. I think he must have had a "decent" record deal in the UK in the early sixties - Thank God, consider who else might have influenced us all......

Best wishes, Pete.

trisonic
11-20-2003, 01:14 PM
I meant to add for Bill and jeff's benefit a heads up to a current thread headed "anyone try a GT6L6-GE" (I must learn how to pull threads over). There's some real interesting stuff from "Myles" on there. Sorry, Anders, I did not mean that it would not interest you too!

Pete.

abergdahl
11-20-2003, 01:39 PM
Thanks guys...

Pete HERE's (http://63.151.115.106/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22172) thread on GT6L6-GE which i find to be quite interesting.

Just klick on the http:// button when you write you're message, first enter the text you want dispay then the URL you want linked. You can copy the URK from the adress field of the browser. The adress to this thread is:
http://63.151.115.106/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20468

Cheers :dude

hawkeyeinexile
11-20-2003, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by abergdahl
THANKS,

I was trying for Freddie for the first part and Albert for the second, first part is pick and fingers the attempt to play like Collins is all fingers, one take.
Cool that you could hear what i was going for :cool:
Jimmy V, hmm maybe we steal from the same guys, which part sound like him?
Actually Collins was one of the big reasons for getting a Tele years ago...
The bucker really makes this a flexibel guitar.

Waiting for the next Chapin...

the more open position & double-stop stuff between the Freddie and Albert reminded me of Jimmy Vaughn, tho your tone was much hotter.

(hey, i'm waiting on mine, too:) - i can hear Tom Petty moaning in the background...)

:cool:

hawkeyeinexile
11-20-2003, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by trisonic
I meant to add for Bill and jeff's benefit a heads up to a current thread headed "anyone try a GT6L6-GE" (I must learn how to pull threads over). There's some real interesting stuff from "Myles" on there. Sorry, Anders, I did not mean that it would not interest you too!

Pete.

thanks, Pete. by coincidence i was just scanning Myles' site last night. IIRC he was (is?) one of the few voices of experience and reason on AGA.

:cool:

trisonic
11-20-2003, 05:01 PM
This is a test but it includes useful info:

Check out the new DC18/20 specs at bottom of page from Nickcha: See Below

Now that sounds really interesting, looking forward to Dean's clips.
Pete.

http://63.151.115.106/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22088&perpage=15&pagenumber=2

trisonic
11-24-2003, 06:29 PM
Yeah, I like that too.
Pete.
:AOK

abergdahl
11-26-2003, 02:48 PM
Seems like i need to update my Chapin clip'n'pics page. :)

Btw i have some new clipsof the Hawk, The Blue Rider, and my Mystic Blues amp, Ruth, Texas style :dude

Look at my soundclick page, link below. Meanwhile I will start working on my Chapin page..

trisonic
11-26-2003, 03:03 PM
You know, Anders, I am not a big fan of those type of amps but that amp of yours is really stunning! I know absolutely nothing about Mystic Blues, what's the story on them?

Pete.

Michael
11-26-2003, 03:39 PM
Anders,
Thanks again for the Chapin Pages. Just a fantastic resource and time saver.

You will be able to add a jpeg of my Chapin #3 veeeeery soon. And possibly some clips, if Bill has the time.
:D
Mike

trisonic
12-02-2003, 04:39 PM
Bill,
Have you finished the Sunburst/Maple neck Strata-houla sufficiently to post a few clips?
You may have emailed me, I haven't accessed it in a couple of days.....
Pete.

theFaf
12-02-2003, 08:50 PM
Pete,

I think that that is one of the guitars that I played last night at Bill's place. If it was, it's a sweet sounding guitar. Nice chime and sustain for days.

Scott

trisonic
12-02-2003, 09:56 PM
Scott,
Now you're making my palms go all sweaty......

Pete.

theFaf
12-03-2003, 01:11 AM
Pete,

Is it this one?

http://chapinguitars.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/media/boardflame2.jpg

That's the one I played. It has a really comfortable soft-V shaped neck. Bill said that it was just about ready -- he just wanted to put a few final touches on it. I liked it quite a bit.

Scott

hawkeyeinexile
12-03-2003, 01:15 AM
Originally posted by theFaf
Pete,

Is it this one?

[pic dele'd - rjs]
That's the one I played. It has a really comfortable soft-V shaped neck. Bill said that it was just about ready -- he just wanted to put a few final touches on it. I liked it quite a bit.

Scott


oh, that's all well and good. if you like that sort of thing.

:eek:

(welcome back, Scott)

:cool:

trisonic
12-03-2003, 06:09 PM
I think it is the same one, everyone has raved about the look of the neck but I love the body.
What are the specs on it, do you know? I sent an email to Bill but haven't been able to check my mail the last couple or few days.
Does Bill use the same frets on the "spec" guitars? I like em not too big not too small, I'd rather err on the smaller side (I have a grip of steel unfortunately).

Pete.

Shades
12-03-2003, 07:59 PM
6.5 lbs, very soft v shape flamed maple neck with really flamed maple board, 8.5"-10" compound radius, Stew mac #148 fretwire (between vintage fender and vintage fender wire,) 22 frets, very light weight swamp ash body. Black dog pickups, "vintage style trem with steel block and titanium saddles, 25.5" scale, tobacco burst, 5 way switch with a push pull allowing 7 settings, Master volume, neck tone (with cap optimized for neck pickup, bridge tone (with a different cap optimized for bridge pickup), tele style baseplate under bridge pickup for a slight lean toward tele-esque sounds without really fully leaving stratville and maintaining the classic bridge middle/strat tone.

sanhozay
12-03-2003, 08:16 PM
very nice, bill.

is it friday yet?

JoeR

Shades
12-03-2003, 08:18 PM
not yet

theFaf
12-03-2003, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by hawkeyeinexile
(welcome back, Scott) Thanks Hawk! :D

Shades
12-03-2003, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by trisonic
Bill,
Have you finished the Sunburst/Maple neck Strata-houla sufficiently to post a few clips?
You may have emailed me, I haven't accessed it in a couple of days.....
Pete. Pete, for you
a little christmas arrangment using said houla

houla christmas clip Rhythm neck/bridge, single line bridge middle with slight tone control roll-off (http://www.chapinguitars.com/sounds/grinchahoula.mp3)

same thing only Rhythm neck/bridge, single line neck pickup (http://www.chapinguitars.com/sounds/grinchsketch-02.mp3)


enjoy merry christmas

trisonic
12-04-2003, 03:17 PM
Very nice, Bill! The Cornish sounds very nice too. Do have Paul Rodgers' Tribute to Muddy Waters? There's a track on there with Dave Gilmour (Can't remember title - it's in the car) which has the most beautiful rendering of the SS2 (I can't believe it is anything else) it's kind of MORE STRAT when he kicks it in.

Do you remember in the other mighty thread when you did a Jimiesque type clip? I'd like to hear that on front/middle and middle / bridge if you get a chance, mate (and a bluesy front pick up no effect with that slow blues backing from ScottL). Sorry to be so picky!!!!!

BTW I'm not sure I fully understand when you say "between vintage Fender and vintage Fender wire" Can you elucidate?

I think I am in love (not with you, although I like you.....)
Pete.

Shades
12-04-2003, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by trisonic

BTW I'm not sure I fully understand when you say "between vintage Fender and vintage Fender wire" Can you elucidate?

Pete. basically it's about .05" wider than old vintage fender small frretwire and about .012" narrower than the old gibson jumbo wire (modern jumbo is over .025" wider) height is basically the same as fender wire.

I

trisonic
12-04-2003, 04:47 PM
Thanks, Bill. I thought that must have been a typo......how does it feel compared to the Red One with the shorter scale length? I must say I really loved the rather unique voicing of that one as well.

Pete.

sanhozay
12-04-2003, 05:10 PM
Bill,
Is it almost Friday?
Sleepless in MA

Shades
12-04-2003, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by trisonic
Thanks, Bill. I thought that must have been a typo......how does it feel compared to the Red One with the shorter scale length? I must say I really loved the rather unique voicing of that one as well.

Pete. The longer feels a bit tighter. This particular houla is a chime beast, really open sound. The red one had a punchier fender with some more LP jr qualities to it.
here's a short clip like the one you requested. Although I'm using a Maz38 Sr. instead of the Komet on this.


Houla clean (http://www.chapinguitars.com/sounds/mbhoulamm.mp3)

VetteLover
12-04-2003, 08:26 PM
Oh God . . . that's too gorgeous . . . :eek: :eek: :dude

Shades
12-04-2003, 11:31 PM
Originally posted by BrewBeck
Very nice clips Bill!

Where can I find that Stumble backing track? give me a call and I'll get you some tracks.

Cybercat
12-05-2003, 06:36 AM
Originally posted by trisonic
Very nice, Bill! The Cornish sounds very nice too. Do have Paul Rodgers' Tribute to Muddy Waters? There's a track on there with Dave Gilmour (Can't remember title - it's in the car) which has the most beautiful rendering of the SS2 (I can't believe it is anything else) it's kind of MORE STRAT when he kicks it in.

(snip.)
Pete. "Standing Around Crying" - & I believe it may be the original Soft Sustain he's using, rather than the SS-2. From my rather limited Japanese (I have the import version of the CD) it seems the track was recorded in January 1993.

Shades
12-05-2003, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by sanhozay
Bill,
Is it almost Friday?
Sleepless in MA It's friday

"out for delivery" :AOK

sanhozay
12-05-2003, 12:21 PM
Bill,

I'm at work but I have the wife & kids at home on a Houla Watch.

I left explicit instructions for them to not leave the house unattended for any duration, no matter what.

I even had a long talk with my dog, Zack, about how the UPS man is a nice man, and a kind man full of solid values and virtues. And a man who carries biscuits that he may choose to distribute to Zack if he promises not mangle him to pieces when he delivers Daddies Houla.

Life’s good today, real good. What could be better than a new guitar and a big old snowstorm coming in right behind it?
JoeR:)

VetteLover
12-05-2003, 01:25 PM
Ahhh . . . Houla-Day . . . . :D :dude

hawkeyeinexile
12-05-2003, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by VetteLover
Ahhh . . . Houla-Day . . . . :D :dude


i calculate he's been playing it for some time now...

:cool:

VetteLover
12-05-2003, 07:27 PM
So where's the pics . . .the tone report . . . the gushing review . . . . there's no excuse for this . . . :D

hawkeyeinexile
12-05-2003, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by VetteLover
... there's no excuse for this . . . :D



must be rapture ;)

:cool:

Shades
12-09-2003, 03:01 AM
Well, kinda cool news. I'm going to be building a Semi-solid tenor guitar for a guy named Gordon Stevens (used to work with the second incarnation of Moby Grape.) Great guy and I love doing cool and different designs so it ought to be a lot of fun. He's cool with the time frame (something like this with a totally new design pretty much doubles to triples the wait time of our established designs) Anyhow, I'm pretty pysched about it.

trisonic
12-09-2003, 09:14 AM
That is interesting news, Bill.
Could you possibly post pics as you move along on the process? Fun to see what design you come up with.

I like my 335 a lot, it covers a lot of ground - including my Les Paul and in many ways is the most "useful" of my guitars, certainly the most "dynamic" but I just cannot get used to the size, it's one of those that just doesn't fit me somehow. Therefore I rarely play it and am actually considering getting rid of it, shame, really.

I've just re-read your post, Bill, and realized that it was a tenor guitar. What would it be used for? I've never understood them.

Pete.

Shades
12-09-2003, 09:34 AM
Originally posted by trisonic

I've just re-read your post, Bill, and realized that it was a [B]tenor guitar. What would it be used for? I've never understood them.

Pete. It's tuned in fifths, 4 strings. Gordon is a violinist/mandolinist who also plays guitar. This kind of blends the two. When Jazz switched from the predominance of banjo into guitar, the tenor banjo was what many of the Banjo players switched to. Tiny Grimes is really my favorite tenor guitarist. It's s cool sound and the fifths lead to different kinds of things. I'm going to try to document the guitar well in the process, I'll try to drop a few pics around here.

trisonic
12-09-2003, 06:28 PM
There are some guitarists who tune their (or some of) guitars in fifths - I think possibly John Etheridge does (I'm grasping at straws because I knew his partner when she worked as assistant to the head of EMI Classics in London). You familiar with Etheridge's work?
I'd like to hear a Tenor, I've always been fascinated by the oddities like the occasional SG tenor guitar that sometimes turn up.

I meant to add have you seen the new GP with the article on SRV's #1? It seems it had a broken headstock repair. I've never heard of one on a Strat? Maybe you did it (it says it's near perfect)!

Pete.

John Hurtt
12-09-2003, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by sanhozay
Bill,

I'm at work but I have the wife & kids at home on a Houla Watch.

I left explicit instructions for them to not leave the house unattended for any duration, no matter what.

I even had a long talk with my dog, Zack, about how the UPS man is a nice man, and a kind man full of solid values and virtues. And a man who carries biscuits that he may choose to distribute to Zack if he promises not mangle him to pieces when he delivers Daddies Houla.

Life’s good today, real good. What could be better than a new guitar and a big old snowstorm coming in right behind it?
JoeR:)

This is great!!!

Ian

trisonic
12-11-2003, 06:21 PM
Any feedback yet from the two new Stratahoula owners? 'Specially JoeR, man I love that Red One!
Pete.

VetteLover
12-11-2003, 08:09 PM
I think JoeR posted on another thread that he was enjoying his - when he wasn't shovelling snow at least . . . :eek:

Mine is still being 'tweaked' by Bill. I hope to get it later next week :D

abergdahl
12-17-2003, 04:33 AM
Great looking guitar, where are the sound clips ;) .

The Hawk body shape is great! This axe really looks like a Gibson style guitar, a cross between SG and LesPaul, with tele style hardware it looks a lot like a Tele. Very Good indeed.

Shades
12-17-2003, 10:43 AM
oops , fixed now...Pretty bad when you can't figure out how to spell your own name in a web address:rolleyes: :o

hawkeyeinexile
12-17-2003, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by Shades
...


oops , fixed now...Pretty bad when you can't figure out how to spell your own name in a web address..

oh i dunno. "Chaspin" has a nice ring to it. hate to have to change all my headstocks, tho :eek:

;)

:cool:

trisonic
12-17-2003, 05:57 PM
I'm not listening to those clips (I know what I want and don't want to be sidetracked).
Pete.

sanhozay
12-17-2003, 06:12 PM
http://chapinguitars.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/media/sanhohoula1.jpg

man, what a body on that Houla. And she's got brains, charm and a world class set of pipes.

anybody wanna talk about uptown girls...

a few nights ago i kissed her goodnight and i swear she said "thank you, loverboy."

anyway, me and Houla are off to a great start.

gotta go feed the penguins...
JoeR

abergdahl
12-18-2003, 02:52 AM
Great looks and sound!! As usual VERY GOOD, VERY GOOD.
What is the body and neck woods? How does this guitar differ from a carve top, soundvise?.

Shades
12-18-2003, 03:03 AM
Originally posted by abergdahl
Great looks and sound!! As usual VERY GOOD, VERY GOOD.
What is the body and neck woods? How does this guitar differ from a carve top, soundvise?. From your's, pretty different. The woods on this one are quilted mahogany top on flamed mahogany body, semihollow (in the more traditional way, ie like 335 and many other chambered guitars, whereas yours is basically a braced top hollowbody.) mahogany neck 24.6 scale, african blackwood fingerboard. however, it will give Cnardone a glimpse as his is similar only with a bit punchier and more percussive tone with a bit more growl to the bottom.

VetteLover
12-18-2003, 06:16 AM
Bill - great clips - you have to stop posting this stuff :eek: :confused:

hawkeyeinexile
12-18-2003, 07:48 AM
Originally posted by abergdahl
Great looks and sound!! As usual VERY GOOD, VERY GOOD.
What is the body and neck woods? How does this guitar differ from a carve top, soundvise?.

i don't know - there's no way on my computer that the pic does justice to that beauty. it's got this wave to the top - it may be my favorite top i've seen come out of the shop yet. reminds me of a Hollywood starlet's hairstyle from the '20s or '30s. and it's got a kind of auburn cast to it.

and the sound - up 'til now my favorite fatlines have been d-o-c's and one that "left for the coast" earlier this year (the one with the baby grand bridge). those are both standard fatlines. this one being a Fatline Hawk...

this one here may be my favorite. i haven't played it yet, but it'll have to go a ways to feel as good as d-o-c's.

:cool:

theFaf
12-18-2003, 11:44 AM
That's another sweet sounding (and looking) guitar!

Bill, you still have me dreaming about (or is that losing sleep over) that other guitar we discussed. ;)

Scott

cnardone
12-18-2003, 03:10 PM
I saw the color and almost pissed myself. I thought "holy cow my guitar is done 'early'!! ". I then saw all of the differences, and got sad. As it is, I do not think I can play for another week or so anyway. I had rotator cuff surgery and I am in an immobilizer. I like the sounds. It is a very cool guitar.

cmn

theFaf
12-18-2003, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by Shades
You don't even want to know what else I've been up to:D :eek:

Oh, I probably don't need to know (or at least my wallet doesn't), but I sure do want to know. :D

Scott

theFaf
12-18-2003, 04:05 PM
Originally posted by cnardone
I had rotator cuff surgery and I am in an immobilizer. Yikes! I hope that you heal up quickly.

Scott

cnardone
12-18-2003, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by theFaf
Yikes! I hope that you heal up quickly.

Scott

Thanks guys. I am in the immobilizer for 6 weeks. then therapy. I've been playing ball in pain for two years. the shoulder finally died in october. When I get the guitar (name tbd), I'll have nothing else to do but play her and look after my new baby girl sophia. 2 weeks old tomorrow. these are good days.

cmn

hawkeyeinexile
12-18-2003, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by cnardone
Thanks guys. I am in the immobilizer for 6 weeks. then therapy. I've been playing ball in pain for two years. the shoulder finally died in october. When I get the guitar (name tbd), I'll have nothing else to do but play her and look after my new baby girl sophia. 2 weeks old tomorrow. these are good days.

cmn

well this is a bummer but among blessings. which arm is affected?

:cool:

VetteLover
12-18-2003, 08:07 PM
I came sooo close to the same surgery. I was scheduled to have it done almost exactly a year ago. A week before the surgery it was feeling a little better (the cuff was clearly torn on the MRI) so a cancelled it. I carried on working out with reduced weights and limited range of motion. It's not 100% but I'm lifting as heavy as I did before the injury.

sanhozay
12-18-2003, 08:22 PM
cnardone:

i, too have a sophia. mines a big girl, though. she was seventeen months on 12/10/03.

i, too have a chapin. mines a houla. she's only been in my life for a few weeks.

i, too played ball in pain. i had my last cortisone shot when i was 30 and hung up my glove. i still can hit the long ball but i can barely make the cut off man from leftfield.

get well soon.

JoeR

Shades
12-19-2003, 01:52 AM
On the positive end of things. My heartfelt congratulation on the birth of your daughter. take it easy and get well soon Chris.

Shades
12-19-2003, 02:38 AM
here's another clip of the Fatline hawk

Distorted clip Fatline Hawk bridge pickup split to bridge side coil of the Black Dog Beelzebucker. (http://www.chapinguitars.com/sounds/fathawkbridgesplit90side-01.mp3)

VetteLover
12-19-2003, 06:33 AM
Beautiful stuff.

Not bad for a guy with only only one good hand :D

Bill, what do you use to record these clips?

VetteLover
12-19-2003, 07:32 AM
Stratahoula now somewhere in Orlando . . . .

Waiting for the Brown Truck . . . . :confused: :confused:

VetteLover
12-19-2003, 05:40 PM
It's here - beautiful guitar :dude

Thanks Bill!

hawkeyeinexile
12-20-2003, 05:05 AM
i'm not sure if the Gear Club for Men is open today, but if so, i'm there. gotta give take this honey out for a spin :D

:cool:

theFaf
12-20-2003, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by hawkeyeinexile
i'm not sure if the Gear Club for Men is open today, but if so, i'm there. gotta give take this honey out for a spin :D
Well, if you do, we expected a full tone report to follow you know. ;) :eek: :D

Scott

theFaf
12-20-2003, 11:52 AM
Man, Bill, that Fatline Hawk sounds darn good! And it's really easy on the eyes too. :D

Scott

hawkeyeinexile
12-22-2003, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by theFaf
Well, if you do, we expected a full tone report to follow you know. ...

Scott

okay, well you've heard some clips above & read about the woods, so let me tell ya 'bout playing it. i spent a little time with it Saturday @ The Shop and plinked & plonked through through three different amps. my fave was the Komet, but the pre-Opal octal Two Rock was real nice, too.

the neck profile is real close to Bill's #1 (Black Prince, "it's only a flesh wound") - about .840, soft D? the p'ups are Chapin Beelzebuckers with pull pots on the vol. & tone controls, trad tele-style 3-way switch. i did some single-note stuff, chromatic low to high, some chord stuff (ragtime fingerstyle, rockin' bluesy, jazz-like, countryish), wacky stuff ("Rondo a la Turka") and just had a blast. flippin' switches & a-pushin' & a-pullin' & a twirlin' - it was a ball. i'll need Bill to detail the settings, cuz i'll get it wrong. will just say that a Beelzebucher has two coils - one fendery & one P90ish. so, with two of these in their respective positions & lotsa coil-tapping, you get lotsa tones. and then more & different ones by fiddling w/the tone & vol. spectra.

Bill's #1 has a VHHA humbucker in theneck and a TBX (these are Velvet Hammers) in the bridge & 7-way switching, i think. with that he gets tele, strat, & buckery sounds. it's still one of my all-time favorite guitars for sound and feel. with this Hawk you can get those sounds, tho not quite as tele-like or strat-like, but a very archtop-y bloomy, full sound. the full bucker sound is somewhere between my old '68 LP Custom and a big@$$ Gibson and maybe Gretsch. Bill was not finished with final setup but it still played like a dream. the acoustic sound is simply the most pleasing to my ear i've ever heard on any guitar of this type. lots of sustain, even balance on open chords. my Chapins have bigger & different neck feels & profiles (.870, .940, .980), but this was as comfortable as any i've held. and @ 6 1/2 lbs or so, well...:D

and the look! - i tell ya, of all the transparent & natural finish guitars i've seen anywhere (Gibsons, Heritages, NAMM guitars, Chapins (the tele-gibby Pale Ale and some others like a Fatline w/a TonePros baby grand bridge) this is maybe my favorite wood & finish. it's been made "on spec", so not to anyone's particulars, but i'd love to have this darn thing. hell, i'd love to be worthy of it ;)

o.y. (& oh yeah) i also saw a new unfinished carved top Hawk (tres sensuous) and a black one w/double binding (white - the "tuxedo Hawk"?). wowzah.

:cool:

theFaf
12-23-2003, 04:43 PM
Hawk & Brew, thanks for the details! Sounds like another winner. Good thing (for me) that the neck is too thin. ;)

Scott

Amitar
12-23-2003, 07:59 PM
I checked out the guitar the other day. Real nice. Has some ES-335 in it too. Very cool. Very tempting.

abergdahl
01-11-2004, 05:02 PM
Is that Mahogany Hawk sold yet??

I have uploaded some pics of "The Blue Rider" my blue hotrod Hakt together with two of my other blue guitars, The Roukangas Duke, Blueburst, and MJ Mirage GT, LPD.

Blue Guitars (http://photos.yahoo.com/abergdah)

Let me know that you can see the pictures..

http://w1.894.telia.com/~u89404043/bilder/103_0354small.JPG
Left to right; Mj Mirage GT, Roukangas Duke Special Deluxe, The Blue Rider.

abergdahl
01-11-2004, 05:14 PM
http://w1.894.telia.com/~u89404043/bilder/HawkPart50.jpg

http://w1.894.telia.com/~u89404043/bilder/hawk68p50.JPG :dude

trisonic
01-11-2004, 08:15 PM
Pic's came out great and big!
You have some cool blue guitars Anders....

Pete.

hawkeyeinexile
01-12-2004, 02:22 PM
hey, AB, saw the other thread, too. is your next one gonna be blue, too? :D

:cool:

abergdahl
01-12-2004, 02:26 PM
;) No inlays, exept :cool: on 12th fret..

Cotton
01-12-2004, 04:21 PM
Bill! I know there's Shady Hawk in my future. Just need to finalize specs and sell some gear... I'm thinking it will kind look like this....

Cotton Esquire (http://www.lilypix.com/photos/showpic.php?aid=1740&uuid=426&pid=24478)

Keep my spot warm!

Cotton

Cotton
01-14-2004, 02:09 PM
Under the all Rosewood top and surrounded by Creme binding is the Swamp Ash body. Maple neck, Rosewood board, no inlays (I like that), side position dots.

15 year old Van Zandt wound by the old man himself (I miss ya, Brother). Simply the best Tele bridge pup blessed from Heaven above.

Heavyweight Vintique hardware. I've got a Vintique neck kit to add.

When the time comes, I want the Shades as the only inlay at the 12th. Perhaps, to be different we'll expand the Shades across the 10th thru 15th or 7th through 12th frets...

Cotton

trisonic
01-20-2004, 06:56 AM
Bill,

Sounds nice, reponds well to pick (or finger) attack dynamics. Good rich tone. Derek should be well pleased.

It's that Focus/Tommy backing again!

I'll email you when I can!!

Best, Pete.

DerekMinnich
01-20-2004, 03:44 PM
Sounds awesome, I'm so psyched about the guitar with this neck. The rosewood one was just a replacement for those of you who don't know, there was an unfortunate accident at Bill's shop where a shelf collapsed denting my neck so the thickness wouldn't have been the same after smoothed down. Bill lent me a rosewood neck while building me a flamed maple neck with the blackwood board. The rosewood neck on the houla was the best sounding strat guitar I've ever played...but this blackwood is going to really take it over the top. I get that extra dose of note seperation, more percussion and pop, and more sustain. I'm really psyched and these soundclips are nice for something to hold me over.

trisonic
01-20-2004, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by Shades
Here's with a little light overdrive from the Gjika and the Vstack together. the amp on both clips is the Dr. Z Z28.

Bill, Are you just using the V-Stack as a "treble boost" in that clip and is the Z28 clean?

Pete.

trisonic
01-20-2004, 05:55 PM
Bill,
Oooh, yeah, "Born under a Warped Sign" - nice harp type tone in places! Sounds real good when you dig deep. Derek's a lucky feller.

I like the Z28, how would you describe its' influences?

Pete.

theFaf
01-21-2004, 12:56 AM
Bill, that guitar sounds really, really good. WOW, you weren't kidding.

Scott

theFaf
01-21-2004, 01:32 AM
Cool!!! The Red Menace, eh? I cannot wait to hear it. :D

Scott

trisonic
01-21-2004, 06:25 AM
Originally posted by Shades
f "the Red Menace"

Sounds good, already!
Pete.

Amitar
01-21-2004, 09:08 AM
"The Red Menace" Great name. theFaf, is this your guitar? Looks like I'll have to stop by and have a listen from Bill.

theFaf
01-21-2004, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by Amitar
"The Red Menace" Great name. theFaf, is this your guitar? Looks like I'll have to stop by and have a listen from Bill. Yep, Chapin #2 for me. It should be really awesome! I'm really looking forward to getting it. Let me know what you think, Chris.

Scott

DerekMinnich
01-21-2004, 01:56 PM
Hell yes, Chapin #2 for me might not be in the NEAR future but the future yes....can't wait for a Hawk one day!

theFaf
01-21-2004, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by DerekMinnich
....can't wait for a Hawk one day! A Hawk will probably be my #3 --- Bill has some ideas he's mentioned to me (sort of like setting the trap, dangling a carrot, fanning the fire, etc). :D

Scott

theFaf
01-22-2004, 12:50 PM
Hmm, now that could be very, very interesting :D (says the man currently walking around with a VERY sore back ) :(

It sounds like we will be having another conversation soon. :eek:

Scott

daveS
01-23-2004, 11:35 AM
Hey there Bill-
Any more info on that lefty ? It looks killer ! Any specs you can share ?
Cheers
-Dave

trisonic
01-23-2004, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by Shades
Well, I have a Fatline Hawk model that I'm planning out right now that I'm pretty pysched about. if my estimate is right the whole guitar should weigh in at around 4 lbs (possibly a bit less). The woods tap out wonderfully. spanish cedar body and neck, carved western red cedar top, hollow, rosewood fingerboard, 24.6" scale, 2 humbuckers. Of course, this would be the antidote for the backache caused by the guitar we've been discussing rather than the guitar we've been discussing.:D

Bill, When you plan a piece like this do you know to 90% what sort of tonality it would have when finished? How do you expect this to sound, for instance (sorry to put you on the spot)? I'm really interested in the process you use to select woods and P'ups.

Thanks for indulging me! Pete.

Shades
01-23-2004, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by trisonic
Bill, When you plan a piece like this do you know to 90% what sort of tonality it would have when finished? How do you expect this to sound, for instance (sorry to put you on the spot)? I'm really interested in the process you use to select woods and P'ups.

Thanks for indulging me! Pete. I pretty much know what I'm going to get. Every now and then it comes out better than I could have imagined. I have enough experience to get something great every time using woods that I know. I will check out entirely new woods that sound promising but with those I don't even mention anything until I've done enough tests to know whether it pans out or not. with woods like cedar I've built plenty so I know what I'm gonna get for the most part. I will fine tune the sound though through several methods (some physical aspects, some electronic voicing ,etc) to bring the most out of it.

Shades
01-26-2004, 06:44 PM
General announcement over in the pub (http://63.151.115.106/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27494)

abergdahl
01-27-2004, 08:59 AM
A new clip of the Blue Rider is posted under Member soundclips.
http://63.151.115.106/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27549

Quite nice strat like tones in this as well as smooth OD..

abergdahl
01-28-2004, 05:43 PM
Thanks Bill, i will shoot you a mail soon.

Amitar
01-28-2004, 09:28 PM
Stopped by Chapin's on the way home from work just to take a look at cnardone's guitar.

The body is back from the finisher and Wow! Redwood top that has a figure that moves all over the place depending on the lighting. I just walked around it and saw the figure take on all kinds of looks. The black binding really looks sharp on it. The color is natural redwood, really nice.

DerekMinnich
01-28-2004, 09:34 PM
I called as Chris(amitar) knows when he was there and Bill said it was some awesome stuff.....It's be hyped if i was cnardone.

cnardone
01-28-2004, 10:14 PM
I am hyped!! I got a pic today. looks great. I am excited and really itching to get this guitar. We still need to finalize the bridge pickup. I think this is going to be a great match for my Beagle. Hopefully, it will match the amp I am building as well. Actually, I am sure it will be. What I am really hoping for is that the amp doesn't squeeeeeel like a stuck pig. Anyway, the guitar needs a name. My wife has said, no names of women I used to know. So, I was thinking "Red". After seeing the picture, I am not so sure. I am open to suggestions.

I might get it next week. I am giddy.

cmn

DerekMinnich
01-28-2004, 10:22 PM
Yeah...a copper top....like duracell.

cnardone
01-28-2004, 10:49 PM
Could be. It is a cool color. The only problem is that my sisters dog, a beagle, is named "Copper". Speaking of which, my amp is a Beagle. It is mahogany cabinet that is similair in color. Is someone trying to tell me something?

cmn

trisonic
01-29-2004, 05:28 AM
That top is amazing! It reminds me of a Satin covered duvet I saw once or twice in Montevideo, er.... forget that.
No, it's really stunning - looks luxurious, - "Luxy" ?

Pete.

cnardone
01-29-2004, 07:38 AM
Check that. My sisters dog is a Basset Hound. Pete, Hopefully I will be able to attend the NYC Tonefest. I will definitely bring it.

cmn

trisonic
01-29-2004, 08:45 AM
Me, I'm not 100% certain yet either, you have given me another incentive.....

Have you decided on the P'ups yet? What type of sound are you looking for from this one? I can't remember what your main amp is.

Pete.

cnardone
01-29-2004, 12:05 PM
My main amp is a Alessandro Beagle (2XEL84). The neck is going to be a Harmonic Design Humbucker. The bridge is not finalized. Bill thinks the Beezlebucker. The humbucker tone is more important than any split sounds. I really liked the Slow Burn bridge tones. But that was a short scale. We'll see.

cmn

DerekMinnich
01-29-2004, 12:06 PM
Def. go with the Beelzebucker, and the split sounds on that thing are awesome, you can get a p90ish tone and a strat sound. And yeah, it's got a great humbucker tone....it's a killer sound.

hawkeyeinexile
01-29-2004, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by cnardone
My main amp is a Alessandro Beagle (2XEL84). The neck is going to be a Harmonic Design Humbucker. The bridge is not finalized. Bill thinks the Beezlebucker. The humbucker tone is more important than any split sounds. I really liked the Slow Burn bridge tones. But that was a short scale. We'll see.

cmn

cmn,

i just swung by Chapin's to drop off a loaner & saw your new honey w/the neck fitted (not set in quite yet)...

oh, ma-a-an...:D

:cool:



:dude

trisonic
01-29-2004, 05:29 PM
Bill,
I was just listening to the clip you made of Vettelover's Strat - ahoula Bridge Pick up, overdriven. Don't think I heard it before, what is that P'up? Bloody good sound (if I've asked this question before humour me......).
Pete.

trisonic
01-29-2004, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by hawkeyeinexile
cmn,

i just swung by Chapin's to drop off a loaner & saw your new honey w/the neck fitted (not set in quite yet)...

oh, ma-a-an...:D

:cool:



:dude

I know Copper has been bandied around as a name (and it really is not for me to name it, of course) but "Luxy" seems to suit it so well.

Pete.

cnardone
01-29-2004, 05:55 PM
Hawkeye,

You are killing me. I can't wait. Any other information you get must be shared.

Pete,

I was thinking about your post last evening and I remembered you writing silk instead of satin. Then I thought, "oh silk is nice." However, it may not sound like a "Silk", so "Luxy" is still a possibility.

cmn

hawkeyeinexile
01-29-2004, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by cnardone
Hawkeye,

You are killing me. I can't wait. Any other information you get must be shared.

...

cmn

well, i could only stay for a minute, cuz the Lord of the Abyss(mal) is a busy Lord indeed. but he showed me the finished body & the pic is nowhere in the remote vicinity of how gorgeous & deep (no reference to abysses) & flowing that top is. then he showed me the baby grand bridge in place. and with the binding, well...

then he fitted the neck into place & described the other hardware appointments. had me whimpering in my finest d-o-c fashion. if i had any gluing or setup or wiring skills, i'da entertained highly low felonious notions...:eek:

:cool:

cnardone
01-29-2004, 07:07 PM
"highly low felonious notions" You are talking to an electrical engineering major. What does that mean?

cmn

hawkeyeinexile
01-29-2004, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by cnardone
"highly low felonious notions" You are talking to an electrical engineering major. What does that mean?

cmn

i'm just babbling as i go along. highly felonious notions of low intent, i guess. like, "how fast can i grab this thing & get out the door". and get away with it. ;)

:cool:

DerekMinnich
01-29-2004, 07:42 PM
I'm pretty sure Vettelovers bridge pickup is a big dog, which is basically a single coil sized P90 sound.....it kills though in those clips. At least I think your thinking of the mahogony one that used to be volpicella's.

trisonic
01-29-2004, 09:33 PM
That's the one, Derek!
Nice, complex sound.

Pete.

VetteLover
01-29-2004, 09:47 PM
Killer guitar :D :D

Amitar
01-29-2004, 10:02 PM
Originally posted by hawkeyeinexile
the pic is nowhere in the remote vicinity of how gorgeous & deep
I thought the same thing. The picture is nice but it looks a little darker in color and more alive in person.

I have a Beezlebucker in the bridge position of my Hawk Rod. First one put in a guitar I do believe. I like it a lot. The humbucker sound is real nice with a biting growl... Just what I wanted. Actually I think its a mean little pickup in the humbucker mode........panting.....MAN I LIKE MY CHAPIN HAWKROD....Oh where was I?

I really like the strat coil a lot by itself and with the neck pup. The P90 coil is also nice. Very cool thing to split the Beezlebucker and get other sounds too that are themselves very, very good. No compomise in the humbucker sound at all, IMHO. I guess you could always swap pickups later if the Beezlebucker didn't suit you.

cnardone
01-31-2004, 05:05 PM
This is great. The two pics almost look like two different tops. Soooo cool. I didn't realize how much the finish makes the figuring pop. We want sounds!! We want sounds!! OK, maybe "we" is actually "I". I can only be patient for so long.

cmn

DerekMinnich
01-31-2004, 05:15 PM
Is that a blackwood board, it looks like it.....Bill, what are the tonal qualities of redwood and what woods are used in the other places. Whats to expect tonally in the end.

cnardone
01-31-2004, 10:37 PM
That is a blackwood board. Mahogany back and neck. 25' scale. A fair amount of chambering I believe. Bill, correct me here if I am wrong. It does have its own character but the redwood is similar to spruce but with a little more strength so it iwill have more snap and bite.

I have a HBII that can be a little bright and boomy at the same time with my Beagle. But I love that way the notes bloom. I've played the spruce top and liked the focus (compared to the HBII). I believe I also mentioned that I liked the HBI (Mahogany back Maple Top) tonal area. However, the only one that I played though didn't have any ummppff. The notes did not jump off/out of the guitar. I definitely wanted to stay away from being to bright.

Shades
01-31-2004, 11:03 PM
Redwood is warmer than Spruce, more like cedar in tone but fatter. Spruce is actually a little stronger than redwood. I have other design aspects that will keep snap. The top on your fatline is thinner than a PRS top, and the guitar will have more oomph.

DerekMinnich
02-01-2004, 10:28 AM
\Chris, sounds like your guitar should be really fat, have lots of pop and sound great. Blackwood is just the perfect fingerboard so at least you'll have a piece why it's available...how thick is your neck?

cnardone
02-01-2004, 12:41 PM
.83 with a C-Shape. We tried to find specs on the Anderson Cobra. I played one with an all rosewood neck that was the smoothest guitar I've ever played. I think that the short scale in combination with the strat style headstock has something to do with it though.

cmn

trisonic
02-01-2004, 12:46 PM
Whereabouts should a neck's depth be measured? Do you include the fret height or not?

I have a '58 Strat ( Custom Shop replica, alas) and I want to spec out the neck, 'cos it's nice.........

Advice appreciated, Pete.

DerekMinnich
02-01-2004, 12:47 PM
Chris...so you like a pretty thin neck ehhh? I don't actually, I like them big...the neck I had on my stratahoula was .980 or something like that(the replacement neck) then this neck turned out to be .960. My next chapin which will probably be a hawk with be in the .96-.98 range. I like em BIG. Just feels so comfortable especially with the neck finish, you'll be BLOWN away when you feel it!

DerekMinnich
02-01-2004, 12:49 PM
You'll have to hit up bill on that one...I DON'T think it involves frets but I may be wrong. I actually am starting to get fond of smaller frets(i have a smaller fretsize on my strata-houla) and I can really tell the difference in clarity. They feel good too, now if my neck was really think, I probably wouldn't be able to do it feelwise because I have to have some thickness. The necksize and frets though on the houla and just perfect though.

trisonic
02-01-2004, 01:04 PM
Derek - Ah, yes, you must be getting older.....I prefer frets on the smaller rather than the larger size but I have a grip of steel and hate the variant of tuning with the too tall frets plus I think you get a woodier response with less mass in the frets....

Also I may be talking out of my rear end........maybe Bill will jump in soon.

best, Pete.

DerekMinnich
02-01-2004, 01:13 PM
Yes, and another thing about frets, I will never use stainless steel.....that'd just be too brashy.

trisonic
02-01-2004, 03:24 PM
Derek,
I've never had Stainless frets, I was going to ask Bill about that too - someone else over the pond recommended them to me......
everyone has their own views and amen to that!

Best, Pete.

DerekMinnich
02-01-2004, 03:31 PM
Ask bill what frets are on mine, it's a good sounding wire.

cnardone
02-01-2004, 04:10 PM
I never thought I liked them slim. I guess in comparison, that is slim. I do not mind too much thicker. My HBII is definitely bigger than that and it is ok. I do know that I do not like them real fat like yours though. Just too much. Perhaps if I ever dedicate a guitar to slide (I am really horrible at it), I would go with a big neck and smallish frets.

I always thought that the thickness was measured right next to the nut. No, frets. I certainly could be wrong though.

cmn

Shades
02-01-2004, 04:41 PM
Back side of the first fret to the top of the board at the middle, no frets.

DerekMinnich
02-01-2004, 04:50 PM
Hey Bill, you've got mail.

Tag
02-03-2004, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by Shades
Ummm, I think you forgot something:rolleyes: :D

Here's the link to your page (http://w1.894.telia.com/~u89404043/chapin/)

BTW Thanks guys...nice to know your thinking of us.

I'll try to get some more instrument pics up in the next couple of days.....meanwhile here's a photo of a scary Halloween Catahoula
Riley Guardian of the Hoarded Tonewoods
http://chapinguitars.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/media/metastophafleas.jpg

Bill, That is a GREAT picture of Riley!! That look says it all! "Go ahead punk, make my day" :eek:

trisonic
02-06-2004, 06:58 PM
Bill,
You know I would probably love Riley, when I meet him - as I said before we share the same eye colour.....however it's friday night here, peeing down with rain, got any new guitar photos not seen? Even bits of nice wood would cheer me up?

Pete.

Tag
02-06-2004, 07:10 PM
Originally posted by trisonic
Bill,
You know I would probably love Riley, when I meet him - as I said before we share the same eye colour.....however it's friday night here, peeing down with rain, got any new guitar photos not seen? Even bits of nice wood would cheer me up?

Pete.

Yea, maybe a picture of mine??:D :cool:

trisonic
02-06-2004, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by Tag
Yea, maybe a picture of mine??:D :cool:

I saw your neck blank, Tag, that's going to look staggering when it's finished.

Has your "lake" overflowed yet, mate?

Pete.

Tag
02-06-2004, 07:49 PM
Originally posted by trisonic
I saw your neck blank, Tag, that's going to look staggering when it's finished.

Has your "lake" overflowed yet, mate?

Pete.

Hey Pete!
Of course not. I built in an extremely complicated overflow, to keep the water level consistant no matter what the weather. :eek: Exacty 3 inches below patio grade. :cool:
This weather is AWFUL. I lost my voice while I was on my vacation, and still can not say a word. :mad: Close to 3 weeks now! They tell me its a bad sinus infection........
Cant wait to see more pics of the guitar. I hoping with a one piece neck and real light one piece body, it will really resonate. Still debating on putting a humbucker in the neck postion to make it a true jazz machine, but I think I will regret it. That will be for my second tele style Chapin. ;)

trisonic
02-06-2004, 08:09 PM
Yeah, you should wait for the next one viz the Humbucker. It may just be me but I don't think a humbucker looks right on a Strat-a-houla (or any guitars of that shape).

Sorry to hear about your sinus, I have had the same thing for about 2 months (but I haven't lost my voice). I don't know whether it's the bloody weather or the dryness that starts it off. I've got allsorts of hunidifiers in my house and I still can't get above 25% humidity.

Pete.

Shades
02-06-2004, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by trisonic
Bill,
You know I would probably love Riley, when I meet him - as I said before we share the same eye colour.....however it's friday night here, peeing down with rain, got any new guitar photos not seen? Even bits of nice wood would cheer me up?

Pete. Here's a few shots you might find interesting. also Saul Koll mentioned he'd be interested to see so shots of this particular chambering design which is fairly substantially different from anything used by anyone else I'm aware of. Basically it is a full hollow with a tone bar carved into the back that acts as bracing. By carving this brace you fine tune the back resonance. The top is braced using a modified version of Fan bracing I developed for this guitar.

http://chapinguitars.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/media/chamber1.jpg

Shades
02-06-2004, 09:13 PM
more in progress.

http://chapinguitars.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/media/fatlineset.jpg

http://chapinguitars.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/media/fatback.jpg

http://chapinguitars.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/media/setneck1.jpg

trisonic
02-06-2004, 09:14 PM
Bill,

You're right that's certainly not chambering! How did you get the idea for the back tone bar?
Fascinating and exquisite.

Thanks for sharing it!

Pete.

trisonic
02-06-2004, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by Shades
more in progress.

http://chapinguitars.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/media/fatlineset.jpg

http://chapinguitars.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/media/fatback.jpg

http://chapinguitars.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/media/setneck1.jpg

That top will look truly great when it has finish on it, what'll it be (the finish I mean)? The one in the middle is different, right?

Pete.

Shades
02-06-2004, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by trisonic
Bill,

You're right that's certainly not chambering! How did you get the idea for the back tone bar?
Fascinating and exquisite.

Thanks for sharing it!

Pete. Building Acoustics using some Kasha concepts got me thinking in the whole resonant "Back soundboard" vein, really it's a variation on top bracing. LIkewise, the hollow carved hawk incorporates a few Kasha concepts as well.

Shades
02-06-2004, 09:26 PM
Originally posted by trisonic
That top will look truly great when it has finish on it, what'll it be (the finish I mean)? The one in the middle is different, right?

Pete. I'm leaning a unburst type of thing. The mi