Dxmble Inspired

[Robbie]

Here's a new pedal that is Dumble inspired. The top channel provides overdrive and the bottom is clean. The front panel toggles are typical of the dumble with exception of the Classic / Modern. The Classic is based on the 60-70's tone stack and the Modern is the Sky. The toggles on the right side of the box (barely viewable) provide compensation going into a classic Fender amp or straight (going into a power amp), and the lower toggle provides two options for speaker simulator miking (Eminence RWB versus a Celestion G12M-70).


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[therhodeo]

Who makes it?

[guitarman_1]

Looks interesting.

[GearOnTheBrain]

Yeah, who makes it, and whats the cost?
The new Menatone Howie is gonna have most of those features except the rock/jazz toggles and speaker toggles.
Interesting though.

Luke

[SamPaoli]

Well it looks interesting but I bet ordering one would be a nightmare. You'd have to pay up front for and wait for delivery at an undetermined future date. If you are not famous enough and happen to contact the builder to find out "how it's going" your order will be immediatley cancelled with no refund. Your only chance of having it completed would then be to force said builder into completing your pedal with a big bag of Coke and a pistol. Oh wait, this is not being made by Howard? Crap, my bad....

[Jim Salman]

Is this a hoax? If not, then this box had better be, sonically, the ultimate Dumble ODS simulation pedal, given its looks and features. The only thing is, I would want mine custom ordered so that the OD channel has its gain and volume knobs labeled "CONTENT" and "RATIO"!

But this is just a hoax, right?

[therhodeo]

Is this a hoax? If not, then this box had better be, sonically, the ultimate Dumble ODS simulation pedal, given its looks and features. The only thing is, I would want mine custom ordered so that the OD channel has its gain and volume knobs labeled "CONTENT" and "RATIO"!

But this is just a hoax, right?

I wondered that too but who knows. I kinda hope it isnt.

[yZe]

RObbie, that looks killer

A 2 channel dumble machine

if there's a list and you're selling them , sign me up !!

[fr8_trane]

Well lets see now...I've gone through about a grand in revolving door OD pedals in the past year. I finally came to my senses and just sent the SF bassman head I got for $50 to Andy Fuchs for his Dumble mod.

Last year this time I spent $400 to have David Allen service my $50 amp and mod the bass channel. That money, like everything I spent on OD pedals was wasted (the work was excellent just not what I really wanted). 2 years ago before I ever heard of the zendrive I could've had a Fuchs mod for $800. But no, the vintage snob in me protested and I wasted the opportunity and $200 (the current mod price is $1000). What I'm saying is - IF YOU WANT A DUMBLE GET A FUCHS MOD AND BE DONE WITH IT!!!!

There is no pedal that does it - period. Take it from someone who has tried to turn his vintage fenders into something they are not with pedals- it ain't happening.

[Robbie]

I posted this after my bedtime last night, so I was not able to provide the background on the pedal, so here goes. The pedal is a prototype I have been developing over the past 5 years. I have built numerous versions of the dumble clones based on the schematics on the web to see what all the hype is about, and yes I am bit by the Dumble bug. From this point on I decided to develop a pedal emulating the dumble by emulating every circuit in the amp. Right now the pedal is being circulated to various guitarists for review and tweaking. If all goes well, eg there's an interest, and I can get the pedal to a reasonable price point, production release could occur late this spring. I will be posting some sound clips soon.

Thanks for the responses,

Robbie

[memphisrain]

Dude, your taking your chances using the 'D' word around here with describing your product. Thats like showing up with a kilo at a crackhead party around here. I mean look at Alf Hermida, that man is going to be making zendrives until rapture.

That being said, looks interesting, and I'm looking foreword to hearing some clips....


mR

[Matt Gordon]

Looks great Robbie. Is this a preamp thing (like direct to board) or a typical stompbox (before amp) type OD?

[Robbie]

Hi Matt,

To answer your question, it does both. The "speak sim" output can be used to go direct into a board or PA (with 2 speaker curves available). The "out" output has two options, in one mode (Fender guitar amp compensated) it compensates for the typical Fender notch making the amp flat band so the pedal is not effected by the amp. In the other mode (non-compensated) the signal is flat and can be used to plug into a power amp then into a standard 12" speaker. So in summary the options are:

1.) direct box
2.) stomp box
3.) preamp into power amp

Thanks,

Robbie

[Matt Gordon]

Very, very nice. Already saving, as we speak! :)

[slopeshoulder]

If it sounds right, I'd buy one, but for hundreds, not many of them and not thousands. In other words, $350 max? OK, $500 if it was the shiznit, otherwise $180.

[n8b]

This looks like a cool project, Robbie. Good luck on the venture. I'd love to try one.

[carlygtr56]

Good luck with it. It looks great!

[jzucker]

From this point on I decided to develop a pedal emulating the dumble by emulating every circuit in the amp.

How are you emulating the preamp tubes? Do you have an analog circuit that mimics an AX7? If so, you should consider making a full amp. Eric Pritchard is doing that and selling a 1x12 combo amp for $2200 !

[Denyle_Guitars]

How are you emulating the preamp tubes? Do you have an analog circuit that mimics an AX7? If so, you should consider making a full amp. Eric Pritchard is doing that and selling a 1x12 combo amp for $2200 !

There's a schematic on the web for a D circuit adapted to pedal using jfets. It's supposedly pretty good although I haven't tried it. I would imagine this pedal is similar in it's use of jfets in place of tubes. It's fairly common among pedal builders to use them for their "tube-like" soft clipping qualities.

Robbie, it looks like a winner. When do we get to hear it?

[Jim Salman]

There's a schematic on the web for a D circuit adapted to pedal using jfets. It's supposedly pretty good although I haven't tried it. I would imagine this pedal is similar in it's use of jfets in place of tubes. It's fairly common among pedal builders to use them for their "tube-like" soft clipping qualities.

Robbie, it looks like a winner. When do we get to hear it?
The Menatone Howie does this sort of thing. The circuit looks very close to a Dumble ODS preamp, except the tube triode stages are replaced by JFETS (or similar transistors). The only problem is, from my experience owning a first generation Howie, is that overdriven JFETs still don't really sound like overdriven tubes. They may be less harsh than other types of transistors, but they don't generate the same harmonic overtones as real tubes running at high voltage.

Also, from my experience owning (and then usually returning or selling shortly after buying) OD pedals that are designed as full-blown preamps with an option to filter the signal before sending it to a guitar amp input - designing that filter properly is KEY to making the pedal sound good with guitar amps. Most of the time I've found the filtering to be wanting - either the pedal is too bright, or too scooped in the midrange, or both - such that even a 3- or 4-band EQ on the pedal itself cannot properly compensate for this. I suspect designing such a filter is not easy. Also, I don't know if a filter designed for one style of amp (such as Fender blackface) will work well for others (such as Box AC30 or plexi-style Marshall).

To Robbie - I'm VERY interested in your pedal, but PLEASE, get the filtering right before releasing it to the public. It won't be successful if it sounds great with a power amp (or even into a PA) but only so-so with a guitar amp.

One more thing - why simulate a G12M-70 speaker? That is not known to be a popular speaker to use with D-style amps. Why not the 65-watt Celestion or at least the 80-watt "Classic" one?

[GuitarsFromMars]

I posted this after my bedtime last night, so I was not able to provide the background on the pedal, so here goes. The pedal is a prototype I have been developing over the past 5 years. I have built numerous versions of the dumble clones based on the schematics on the web to see what all the hype is about, and yes I am bit by the Dumble bug. From this point on I decided to develop a pedal emulating the dumble by emulating every circuit in the amp. Right now the pedal is being circulated to various guitarists for review and tweaking. If all goes well, eg there's an interest, and I can get the pedal to a reasonable price point, production release could occur late this spring. I will be posting some sound clips soon.

Thanks for the responses,

Robbie

How much would you be talking about in terms of cost?

[guitarpkr67]

I fthe price is reasonable, sign me up. It looks awesome.

[Jim Salman]

More questions/suggestions for Robbie:

Is the "Boost" footswitch function the Dumble tone stack bypass boost or the mid-boost (that switches in a larger value treble cap in the tone stack)? Assuming it's the tone stack bypass boost, I suggest replacing the bright switch in the OD channel with a mid boost switch. I think the bright switch is rarely used in combination with the OD section on actual Dumbles and their clones.

Also, will there be internal EQ trimmers that are enabled when "sky" mode is selected?

[jzb]

me 2... always looking for a good pedal.

I fthe price is reasonable, sign me up. It looks awesome.

[lv]

Looks very interesting.

[r9player]

Looks like a lot of work and thought went into this.
Would love to hear some clips.

[Robbie]

Hi everybody,

Thanks for all the feedback, I really appreciate it. Here's a couple answers to some of the questions. Right now I modeled the speak sim on the Celestion 70 based on it sounded good and also the fact that I don't have a 1265 to put on the frequency analizer. I hear the 65's sound great and would love to model one. The boost function is equivalent to the PAB function on the amp, it is not the mid boost circuit. Also to clarify, the classic/modern switch is:

Classic: Pre TS = 70s
Modern: Pre TS = 80s - 90s (also referred to as skyliner in some cases).

Thanks,

Robbie

[gw_bluesman]

Looks cool to me Robbie .... if your taking names and numbers, add me to the list.

Regards,

[mountain blues]

Definitely intriguing!

[Brain2Me2]

If this thing does what you say it does...you better make like a 1,000 of them before taking any pre-orders.

[Macaroni]

Let us know when you have clips posted.

What's the target price?

[gpro34]

Interesting, very interesting indeed. Put me in for one!

[jspax7]

Unless the clean channel gets dirty, I'd suggest dual OD channels. 1 70's-80's and 1 Skyliner. If you can switch jazz to rock you'd have 4 different OD tones, and the 2 jazz channels do the cleaner tones. Most of the raves I hear about Dumbles are related to the OD tones.

Much more versatility IMHO.

[screamtone]

How much?

[Mickey_C]

I want one!

[johan]

me too...
add me!

[riverastoasters]

Hi everybody,

Thanks for all the feedback, I really appreciate it. Here's a couple answers to some of the questions. Right now I modeled the speak sim on the Celestion 70 based on it sounded good and also the fact that I don't have a 1265 to put on the frequency analizer. I hear the 65's sound great and would love to model one. The boost function is equivalent to the PAB function on the amp, it is not the mid boost circuit. Also to clarify, the classic/modern switch is:

Classic: Pre TS = 70s
Modern: Pre TS = 80s - 90s (also referred to as skyliner in some cases).

Thanks,

Robbie

That's intriguing. I have a Dumble with the late tonestack but I've always wanted the early one.

I suppose I will get in line for this if possible.

[B Vance]

Put me on the list. I want to get on it before this becomes like the waiting list for the King of Tone. If the price is right I want one tomorrow.

[Robbie]

Here's a sound clip I put together very quickly the other night (one take, ouch!) Anyways here's the details:

1.) Amp: Fender Deluxe Reverb, Norm channel, Treble on 6, Bass on 3
2.) Speaker: Eminence Red White and Blue
3.) Mic: SM57 off-center 3" at 45 degrees
4.) Volume: 85 db
5.) Guitar: PRS Santana, SD PAF Neck, SD Jeff Beck Bridge
6.) Recording settings: No EQ or Compression, just a touch of reverb

Track 1: Clean straight into amp, then BO clean channel switched in
Track 2: Overdrive: All knobs at 12:00, Brite off, Modern, Rock

I apologize in advance for the playing.:jo

Thanks,

Robbie

lo-fi URL: http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=4997833&q=lo

hi-fi URL: http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=4997833&q=hi

[B Vance]

Here's a sound clip I put together very quickly the other night (one take, ouch!) Anyways here's the details:

1.) Amp: Fender Deluxe Reverb, Norm channel, Treble on 6, Bass on 3
2.) Speaker: Eminence Red White and Blue
3.) Mic: SM57 off-center 3" at 45 degrees
4.) Volume: 85 db
5.) Guitar: PRS Santana, SD PAF Neck, SD Jeff Beck Bridge
6.) Recording settings: No EQ or Compression, just a touch of reverb

Track 1: Clean straight into amp, then BO clean channel switched in
Track 2: Overdrive: All knobs at 12:00, Brite off, Modern, Rock

I apologize in advance for the playing.:jo

Thanks,

Robbie

lo-fi URL: http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=4997833&q=lo

hi-fi URL: http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=4997833&q=hi

It sounds like I want one.

[bigroy]

Sounds like I want one as well. My wife does not want one..:Spank

Let me know when available and the pricing. Don't worry about her.

[hunkowood]

Um..what have you done. Sign me up for 1+

Hunk

[Curt]

I just listened to your clips.
It seems, that you've built what sooo many Dumble owners said "couldn't be built". I love it.
I have a feeling that those clips are going to scare the hell out of some very revered boutique pedal builders around here.
Please, put me on the list.

[Matt Gordon]

Nice Robbie! Very nice. I'm a buyer. :AOK

[JofZ]

wrong thread

[muddy]

why do you keep side-stepping the numerous requests for a price? it does sound good, though, i'll give you that.


ml

[guitardude5]

I'd also inquire as to the price. I know it's tough to firm up a price at this point, but a range is all we are asking for. If it's too far out to put a price on it, then that's OK, too, but please clue us in. It does sound good.

[4nkam]

Sounds very nice indeed :) I'd love to check one out as well.

[Reverb]

Here's a sound clip I put together very quickly the other night (one take, ouch!) Anyways here's the details:

1.) Amp: Fender Deluxe Reverb, Norm channel, Treble on 6, Bass on 3
2.) Speaker: Eminence Red White and Blue
3.) Mic: SM57 off-center 3" at 45 degrees
4.) Volume: 85 db
5.) Guitar: PRS Santana, SD PAF Neck, SD Jeff Beck Bridge
6.) Recording settings: No EQ or Compression, just a touch of reverb

Track 1: Clean straight into amp, then BO clean channel switched in
Track 2: Overdrive: All knobs at 12:00, Brite off, Modern, Rock

I apologize in advance for the playing.:jo

Thanks,

Robbie

lo-fi URL: http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=4997833&q=lo

hi-fi URL: http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=4997833&q=hi


Robbie, nice tones. So far very impressed, Nice tasteful notes too!

Put me on your list, I think I could really dig this pedal.

Reverb

[Robbie]

Hi everbody,

I apologize for not posting a price yet. I need to productionize the design to determine a sell price and this unfortunately is going to take a little time. Right now I could sell hand wired units (like the prototype), but nobody could afford them, and I could only build one a week. I am presently in the process of designing a printed circuit card and am working with a manufacture to support production and determine a build cost. Once I get a better handle on this I will be able to post a price. Again, I'm really sorry for the delay and appreciate your patience and support.

Thanks,

Robbie

[object47]

let me know when they're available, I'd like to hear one too!!!

[Sniper-V]

Hmmm....

If this "demand" keeps up...
and
We keep asking for price...

We maybe the ones setting the price, if you know what I mean.







With that said... in response to that clip put me down for one!

[daveg777]

Robbie,

I LOVE the tone of your pedal! Congrates on a unique and great sounding pedal. Put me on the list as well!

Dave

:dude

[chappy]

Cool tones and layout! Put me on the list as well.

[MightyGuru]

Put me on the list. I'm very interested.

[james russell]

Put me on the list, if there is a list. The tone is excellent!

[shallbe]

Put me on the list as well. Very sweet! Nice work, it seems.

[yZe]

whoa !!! nice clips

HAO & Mena have got some competition !!

Put me on the list !!

I'm sorry if I missed it, butI am assuming that is your point to point pedal

[GuitarsFromMars]

I would like to be on the list to buy one.

[Robboman]

NICE!

My only issue is that during stage use I would stomp all over those knobs being so close to the switches... just like my other pedals, except there's so many MORE knobs here. Am I the only guy who has this issue? I'm singing, looking out at the audience and have to kick in the OD at the same time. It's easy to miss the target with my toe, and it's not that I'm all THAT drunk...

But then again, tone comes 1st!

[Frosty]

My only issue is that during stage use I would stomp all over those knobs being so close to the switches... just like my other pedals, except there's so many MORE knobs here. Am I the only guy who has this issue? I'm singing, looking out at the audience and have to kick in the OD at the same time. It's easy to miss the target with my toe, and it's not that I'm all THAT drunk...

But then again, tone comes 1st![/quote]

I agree. The knobs seem too close. That being said, I want one!
If there is a list, put me on too.

[fuzzyratfarts]

Add to me list if there is one.

[golfcalle]

I'd like to be added as well !

[RETROFX]

Add me please

[Joe Perry]

So, Is there a list or not? Becuase if there is ....I guess I should be put on it also.:) After all - I wouldn't want to be left out.

[lannyhall]

Put me on the interest list.

[El Salvador]

I'd love to be on the list too! :BEER

[Ronnie99t]

I want to be on the list!

[Brain2Me2]

My advice is, Just sell a couple of hand wired prototype ones...to some guys that can give you insight and advice on how you can make this great sounding pedal, Perfect! Specially with the Speaker Sim, options.

Instead of producing it right now as Ver. 1.0, and after a month of people complaining having to make some changes to it, then you would have to release Ver. 2.0, then the people that bought Ver. 1.0 will want you to update their pedals, and the you won't have time to make Ver. 2.0 or even to update those from Ver. 1.0.

Then before you can notice, you'll have a one year waiting list for your pedal. And threads complaining that Robbie doesn't have his crap together business wise, etc etc... You get the point.

By the way, I want to be on that list.:rolleyes:

[jca345]

I just listened to your clips.
It seems, that you've built what sooo many Dumble owners said "couldn't be built". I love it.
I have a feeling that those clips are going to scare the hell out of some very revered boutique pedal builders around here.
Please, put me on the list.

And "D" clone amp builders too. Robbie, that sounded pretty darn good man.

[MoRawk]

Great sounding piece there. If there's a list, please add me as well. Thanks!

[PierreL]

Definitely interested here as well...but of course the price will play a major role in my final decision.
I would also like to hear how it reacts to single coils.
Nice job anyway, that's definitely a GAS inducting pedal :)

[bigroy]

Any clips using other amps besides the DR?

[jrigg]

I want one too!

[gregory70]

Well, that did sound cool... Depending on the cost, I'd like one as well.

[cleansed leper]

Count me in, depending on final cost.

[Stratclaw]

If a list does exist, please add me to it. Sounds great.

[Swampash]

Add one for me too please.

[gregory49]

i'm game- add me.. depending on the price..

[Frankenstrat2]

This is hilarious.

[Frankenstrat2]

Meaning scam?
No- and not a slam against Robbie, whom I am sure is a fine fellow.
It is some kind of comment on the members who populate TGP that people are lining up to pre-purchase/pre-order a product that is:
Unproven
Unheard
from a maker that is Unknown
at a price that is Undecided
based largely upon
One thread on TGP.
Pedal builders take note:
Start cloning the Dumble-in-a-box
NOW!
Its never too early to rip off an idea, even one that's half baked and un-built.
You cloners can also start taking orders now, for half of whatever Robbie decides to charge when he decides.
You already have the layout and enough techie hints to go on.
Make sure to use plenty of goop.
Like I said:
Frikkin hilarious.

Hey Robbie- Put me on the list too.
I'm serious, man.
This way I can get one of the first 50, and sell it right away on eBay for a premium while you slave away in your basement or garage or wherever trying to fill all the orders for the parts you haven't even ordered yet.
Its the TGP way, after all.
This can be such an amazing place!
A microcosm of free enterprise.

[Reverb]

No- and not a slam against Robbie, whom I am sure is a fine fellow.
It is some kind of comment on the members who populate TGP that people are lining up to pre-purchase/pre-order a product that is:
Unproven
Unheard
from a maker that is Unknown
at a price that is Undecided
based largely upon
One thread on TGP.
Pedal builders take note:
Start cloning the Dumble-in-a-box
NOW!
Its never too early to rip off an idea, even one that's half baked and un-built.
You cloners can also start taking orders now, for half of whatever Robbie decides to charge when he decides.
You already have the layout and enough techie hints to go on.
Make sure to use plenty of goop.
Like I said:
Frikkin hilarious.

Hey Robbie- Put me on the list too.
I'm serious, man.
This way I can get one of the first 50, and sell it right away on eBay for a premium while you slave away in your basement or garage or wherever trying to fill all the orders for the parts you haven't even ordered yet.
Its the TGP way, after all.
This can be such an amazing place!
A microcosm of free enterprise.

Is this really any different (other than size and financial backing) of what the big boys do at Namm. They introduce new products which are 6-9 months away from production. People see the prototypes but the masses never get to hear them other than clips. Yet they all line up and get in line with their wallets out.

Robbie has built a unit, a prototype, and is costing out boards for mass production to get the cost reasonable. He has recorded clips which the mini TGP masses seem to like and now they want t oget in line. Not really hilarious,,,,,,actually more of the norm. Unfortunately the norm is not always a good thing.

[Frankenstrat2]

Is this really any different (other than size and financial backing) of what the big boys do at Namm. They introduce new products which are 6-9 months away from production. People see the prototypes but the masses never get to hear them other than clips. Yet they all line up and get in line with their wallets out.

Robbie has built a unit, a prototype, and is costing out boards for mass production to get the cost reasonable. He has recorded clips which the mini TGP masses seem to like and now they want t oget in line. Not really hilarious,,,,,,actually more of the norm. Unfortunately the norm is not always a good thing.
I've been to NAMM quite a few times. There is a small amount of 'vaporware'. It is largely a non-delivery show to the trade. Generaslly the products are already in the pipeline, the prototypes built and on display to touch, feel, and play.
You have to admit this situation is a bit different.
Keep in mind that I was the director of the NYC ToneFest where Tomo Fujita instroduced the Clay Jones pedal. I know the back story on that pedal, and how it was marketed.
I told you this is not a slam on Robbie.
But I am entitled to be highly amused at the thread, and the eagerness of our brethren to put their money down.
It is awe-inspiring.
I AM in the wrong business, for sure.
I am also mystified as to why Paul Cochrane (TIM,Timmy), Alf Hermida (Zen Drive), Scotty Smith (Pro Analog), Bjorn Juhl (BJFE) etc, etc, etc, are not, and will never be filthy rich rolling in do-re-mi.
Something is wrong with this picture.

[Reverb]

I've been to NAMM quite a few times. There is a small amount of 'vaporware'. It is largely a non-delivery show to the trade. Generaslly the products are already in the pipeline, the prototypes built and on display to touch, feel, and play.
You have to admit this situation is a bit different.
Keep in mind that I was the director of the NYC ToneFest where Tomo Fujita instroduced the Clay Jones pedal. I know the back story on that pedal, and how it was marketed.
I told you this is not a slam on Robbie.
But I am entitled to be highly amused at the thread, and the eagerness of our brethren to put their money down.
It is awe-inspiring.
I AM in the wrong business, for sure.
I am also mystified as to why Paul Cochrane (TIM,Timmy), Alf Hermida (Zen Drive), Scotty Smith (Pro Analog), Bjorn Juhl (BJFE) etc, etc, etc, are not, and will never be filthy rich rolling in do-re-mi.
Something is wrong with this picture.

Last point well taken ( oh and I never meant to imply that you were slamming Robbie) That is why Clay Jones got out of it, he couldn't make a buck. Too much labor time to build these things by hand.
That is why the big boys need the volume and the Pacific Rim Labor. Obviously they are using high volume production techniques and hard tooling to bring costs down.

[bigroy]

I've been to NAMM quite a few times. There is a small amount of 'vaporware'. It is largely a non-delivery show to the trade. Generaslly the products are already in the pipeline, the prototypes built and on display to touch, feel, and play.
You have to admit this situation is a bit different.
Keep in mind that I was the director of the NYC ToneFest where Tomo Fujita instroduced the Clay Jones pedal. I know the back story on that pedal, and how it was marketed.
I told you this is not a slam on Robbie.
But I am entitled to be highly amused at the thread, and the eagerness of our brethren to put their money down.
It is awe-inspiring.
I AM in the wrong business, for sure.
I am also mystified as to why Paul Cochrane (TIM,Timmy), Alf Hermida (Zen Drive), Scotty Smith (Pro Analog), Bjorn Juhl (BJFE) etc, etc, etc, are not, and will never be filthy rich rolling in do-re-mi.
Something is wrong with this picture.

One of the things we're missing in this converstion is the fact that while we as players find this type of product very interesting and desirable, it is one of the smallest market segments in the world. We are the only people who still have an interest in vacuum tubes. I live in a town of 8500, and there are only maybe 5-10 folks within 20 miles that would know what we're talking about here.

Guys like Paul, Alf and the rest build this stuff not for the love of money, but because the like what they do...and they are good at it.

Robbie may or may not have something, but if it turns out like it sounds, and at an affordable price, there are at least 6 pages of folks who are interested. Not many out of the millions here in the USA and elsewhere, but perhaps enough to start something that will keep Robbie busy for a long time.

That being said, if I do a rough count of posters, I should be #10 on the list..:AOK

[Frankenstrat2]

Last point well taken ( oh and I never meant to imply that you were slamming Robbie) That is why Clay Jones got out of it, he couldn't make a buck. Too much labor time to build these things by hand.
That is why the big boys need the volume and the Pacific Rim Labor. Obviously they are using high volume production techniques and hard tooling to bring costs down.
As I understand it, Clay never meant to get into pedal building production to begin with. He built some pedals for friends and got backed into a situation where he was committed to do a limited run that he never asked for, intended, or wanted to build. The rest is history.
My point was/is that Clay, Paul, Alf, even Dumble hinself could each make boatloads of money, *if* that was what they were interested in doing.
Apparently these fine folks are each committed to their own fiercly independent visions of what success and happiness means to them. Money for money's sake doesn't seem to be part of that vision.
FWIW, another very well-known and respected builder is also working on a D*mble inspired pedal
*Edit, and quote from builder:
"Skyliner EQ is gay IMHO, I've worked on 3 early 80's Dumble ODS 50's with the Music Man tranny's and this pedal will be based on those model ODS 50's (7 controls, footswitchable boost (12AX7), true bypass and have the option of 1/2 watt 8 ohm output or slap it on your pedalboard or straight into poweramp and use the effects loop). Both skyliner EQ's I played were 100 watters and never sounded as good as 50's I played and worked on. The ODS 50's I played had an incredible BF Fender Pro Reverb type of clean and the best sounding one had ALL ceramic coupling caps across the board! Weird... The other had orange drops.... Few ceramics too... Plus with all those switches and knobs, I'd rather try to figure out how to operate the Space Shuttle or go pound salt".... either way, it's tedious tweaking and can become boring in a pedal for some! :-)" End quote

You heard it here first. Should be available this summer. Let the D*mble-clone pedal wars begin!

[Frankenstrat2]

One of the things we're missing in this converstion is the fact that while we as players find this type of product very interesting and desirable, it is one of the smallest market segments in the world. We are the only people who still have an interest in vacuum tubes. I live in a town of 8500, and there are only maybe 5-10 folks within 20 miles that would know what we're talking about here.

Guys like Paul, Alf and the rest build this stuff not for the love of money, but because the like what they do...and they are good at it.

Robbie may or may not have something, but if it turns out like it sounds, and at an affordable price, there are at least 6 pages of folks who are interested. Not many out of the millions here in the USA and elsewhere, but perhaps enough to start something that will keep Robbie busy for a long time.

That being said, if I do a rough count of posters, I should be #10 on the list..:AOK
I think you are underestimating the power of the internet for direct sales to a niche market. One small thread here, buried in the Manufacturers and Dealers Discussion Area has spawned 7 pages of conversation in less than a week with posters standing in line with their wallets open. Guitar players a fanatical about tone, and toyz. A $300-$500 pedal that sounds amazing can easily compete with things like modeling pedals if it kicks *ss. Landgraff is an obvious example. The pedal market is much larger than boutique amps because the price-point is lower. If there are 10 people waiting to order Robbies pedal, there are 1,000 who will be ready to buy it when it is ready. Unfortunately, judging by the pitfalls that PaulC and Alf ran into with the Zen and Tim, meeting the deamnd is the real challenge for small builders who are fanatical about quality and control of their product.

[hunkowood]

It really depends.If Robbie is business savvy then this is his way to test the waters so to speak.He now knows the demand and can set up production to match it. Not to knock Paul C or Alf but their products blew up so fast they couldn't keep up with demand.

Hunk

[bigroy]

I agree with you now Frankenstrat2, I wasn't thinking about the internet.

But we're still a small market compared to say pet vitamins or damn near anything else.

[ericb]

I think this is the funniest thread I've ever seen bar none.. I've been dying to post that for a few days, but seems Barry beat me to it. I was wondering if there was a list to get on the list of the people who review the list that is the original list of the people who are allowed to be able to spend a thousand dollars on a completely unknown unproven pedal that will allow me to sound like I was playing a Boss BD2 but maybe a little different? This is only attempt at humor, not at putting down the unknown pedal! It might be the best pedal in the world, but I surely would not buy an unknown pedal for an unknown price . Best of luck to the hundreds of you who will though, and because of my resistance I miss out on these good things! Eric

[Macaroni]

No one has agreed to buy an unknown pedal for an unknown price. :rolleyes:

Most people have indicated that they are interested (myself included), pending the final product and price. In other words, when it's 'finished', we'll listen to the final clips, and depending on the price, we may order one.

That doesn't seem so odd to me. He's got a working prototype that we've heard a clip of, and that is currently being tested, ie: not vaporware, and will refine it to the point where he feels it's ready to sell. That's a realistic proposition, IMO.

[jakeddy]

Add my name to the list please.

[John Hurtt]

I think the idea is great, and if the price point makes sense I could see myself buying one. Who doesn't want a "Dumble in a box" for a few hundred dollars?

Edit: Just want to make sure that Robbie knows "I want to be on the list"...

[mtlin]

The clip sounded really good. I'm not a fan of the D*mble sound myself, but who cares? I too, however, I'm mystified that someone would ask to be on "the list" for a pedal the price of which is unknown.

[hunkowood]

Jeez guys this thread is not a contract ! Robbie put a proto out and there are ALOT of us interested. Get onboard or stop worrying about it.

Hunk

[journo]

Hi Robbie,

I'd like to be on your list of potential customers as well.

Good luck!

Cheers,

Mats N

[Frankenstrat2]

Jeez guys this thread is not a contract ! Robbie put a proto out and there are ALOT of us interested. Get onboard or stop worrying about it.

Hunk
No worries.
I'm on the list.
Right Robbie?

[Reverb]

Robbie is smart enough to lay really, really low.

Notice his responses are very very sparse, almost non-existent.:crazyguy

Robbie, you do have the list right? What number am I ?:D

[mouldynudger]

Please put me on the list of people not on the list.

,Damian.

[mtlin]

Jeez guys this thread is not a contract ! Robbie put a proto out and there are ALOT of us interested. Get onboard or stop worrying about it.

Hunk

Good point. I promise not to worry about your finances anymore! ;)

[davec69]

Add me to the list of interested persons. I really like the tone from that prototype unit.

[scottl]

Excellent clips Robbie..... Some of the best pedal tone I have heard. Way to go!!!

[blue_lu]

Robbie, pm-ed you - please put me on the list as well.


Thanks, Lu

[radialaced]

I'm interested, please put me on the list Robbie.

Thxs

[dbx]

What an "eclectic" bunch we are ;) ...I guess as long as deposits aren't taken up front the list members won't be out of pocket and won't be inconvenienced if there are production delays...

[Rock-On!!]

Is it too late to get on the list?:worried

Great sounding clips Robbie,
...........Put me on your list as well:crazyguy

[Alambler]

Count me in!! ... um... what is the list for again?

[SGFan]

If there is a list, please put me on the list as well. Thanks.

[Robbie]

Hi Everybody,

I have been working very hard on the productionizing phase of the project, but took a minute today to put together a quick sample of the protoype BO recording direct. I used the same format as before:

Guitar: PRS Santana.
Pickups: SD PAF on Neck, SD Jeff Beck on Bridge
Recording Info: No EQ, or Compression, just a bit of Reverb.
Track 1: BO Clean Channel
Track 2. BO OD Channel

Again, apologies for the playing!

Thanks for all your feedback and support,

Robbie




lo-fi URL: http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=5024782&q=lo

hi-fi URL: http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=5024782&q=hi

[imissmj]

Ummm please put me on the list :)

Chris

[WhosYourPal]

I can't resist...please add me to the list.

[Frank C]

any new developments on this pedal?

[fugot]

all pedals are good, some are just better then others.

Robbie,
I am interested depending on price. I'd like to be on the list for one of these pedals also. peace, mike

[yZe]

Robbie, could you key us in on where your gain is set?

[pinner]

I would also like to be added to the list if it exists.
Thanks
Stephan Lipinski

[Robbie]

Hi Everybody,

I have been asked about the BO settings on the DI clip. They are as follows:

Clean Channel:
Gain 9:00
S1 Brite off
S2 Modern
S3 Rock
Treble: 2:00
Middle: 7:00
Bass: 5:00
Presence: 12:00

Overdrive Channel
Gain 1:00
S1 Brite off
S2 Modern
S3 Rock
Treble: 11:00
Middle: 10:00
Bass: 12:00
Presence: 12:00

Thanks,

Robbie

[BigEv]

I'd like to be added to the list please.

[jakeddy]

I can't get the samples to play. Can someone post them in another way? I'd like to hear these.

[rhp52]

If the production models sound like this proto, I'd like to be added to the list.
thanks

[r9player]

If you are being blocked because of a pop up blocker, hold down CRTL before clicking the link to launch the player.

Also Robbie that pedal sounds great, not my style of music but none the less sounds great!
I can't get the samples to play. Can someone post them in another way? I'd like to hear these.

[Ah Xoc Kin]

I don’t know whether this has been asked or suggested, but how about being able to blend the different channels? Perhaps a switch to run them in series or parallel?

[Arp488]

this is awesome... i have been waiting for someone to do this soooooo bad. I love how it has all the controls just like the dumble does...

absolultly sick man!!!!
please keep us updated on production


ps if one were to want to buy one now, how much would it cost (yes i did read your post about the handmade thing and $$)

[Macaroni]

I can't get the samples to play. Can someone post them in another way? I'd like to hear these.

Use this link, and you can download the mp3s...

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=662595

[stevie2600]

Sounds REALLY good! List me.

[tonecat]

My initial impression of Robbies pedal clips is that this seems to step beyond the Zendrive and is more amplike . The zendrive hints at D-tones but this one seems to say very confidently I speak D-tone. If this pedal becomes available at a price that is less than a Klon , I and many others will be willing victims . Please put me on a list and please keep us updated.
I have a good feeling about this !

[jakeddy]

Use this link, and you can download the mp3s...

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=662595


Ron, thanks bro! :AOK

[the_Chris]

Great sounding pedal! If you're starting up a list, put me on there :AOK

[Robbie]

Hi Everybody,

I have been receiving numerous requests to build PTP pedals. I would love to do this, but right now I need to focus on productionization and rolling in tweaks from reviewers. Building PTP's is very time consuming and would unfortunately take me away from these activities. I thank everbody for their patience, feedback and support.

Take Care,

Robbie

[AaeCee]

Hi Everybody,

I have been receiving numerous requests to build PTP pedals. I would love to do this, but right now I need to focus on productionization and rolling in tweaks from reviewers. Building PTP's is very time consuming and would unfortunately take me away from these activities. I thank everbody for their patience, feedback and support.

Take Care,

RobbieBut how 'bout just one for me? http://www.thegearpage.net/board/images/icons/icon12.gif

[glogulus]

Put me on the list if there is one!

[guitardude5]

What an "eclectic" bunch we are ;) ...I guess as long as deposits aren't taken up front the list members won't be out of pocket and won't be inconvenienced if there are production delays...

Holy crap, you ain't kiddin'. I'm still waiting on my money back on that one. I think everybody backed out of that deal. We were supposed to have our money back by Tuesday. I guess his IP address got lost somewhere in cyberspace and his keyboard was missing the "X" key he needs for his password to log in to his PayPal account.:puh

[van_wylde]

Put me on the list

[r9player]

At this rate I think I should buy Robbie stock :D

[tedm]

I'd like to try one out.


Hi Matt,

To answer your question, it does both. The "speak sim" output can be used to go direct into a board or PA (with 2 speaker curves available). The "out" output has two options, in one mode (Fender guitar amp compensated) it compensates for the typical Fender notch making the amp flat band so the pedal is not effected by the amp. In the other mode (non-compensated) the signal is flat and can be used to plug into a power amp then into a standard 12" speaker. So in summary the options are:

1.) direct box
2.) stomp box
3.) preamp into power amp

Thanks,

Robbie

[Jim S]

Lemmings, myself included :)

[jzb]

Robbie,

I haven't see this much excitement about a pedal since the TIM came out. Before that it was the KLON. Perhaps you can tell us a little about yourself and what you do? Are you a full time manufacturer or is this a hobby? Do you have other products out?

I count myself as a very interested party in your product. Is there anything else you tell us before too many more "me too" post clog this thread totally?

-jzb

[Galejt]

I'd like to be put on the list of people waiting to be put on the list.

If that's okay.

[blue_lu]

So Robbie...

The response is overwhelming - now I'd to know three things, please

1.) Is there a "list", or do we (= all the people who "signed up" for one of your pedals here in this particular thread ) have to keep our eyes opened for you to release the pedal?

which leads to the next point...

2.) When will the pedal be available to the public/when will you go into production ? Any estimation?!

3.) How much ...?!

Regards, Lu

[Robbie]

Hi Everybody,

Here's a quick note about myself and then back to business.

I got my EE degree back in 1984 and have been designing electronics at an aerospace firm for the past 23 years. We build subsystem and black box electronics for military and commerical aircraft. I have been playing guitar since I was 12 years old and have been in numerous bands ever since. I've been making amps and pedals for 25 years. In the past few years I have gone into limited productions on a couple of designs. I am totally obsessed with tone and love music and gear.

Here's a quick business update:

I have been rolling in design tweeks from reviewers. It looks like I will be performing several design to cost iterations to get price down. I am working with a company out of Canada that will be producing my first PCBs. They will be providing me with ROM PCB quotes soon. Once I get the quotes I will roll-up the cost and post the prices. I may offer two designs, a single channel and a dual channel that will present two price points.

In my earlier post I was targeting an intial production release in late spring. This is still the plan if all goes well.

Finally, I have had a lot of requests to be on "the list" Here's my position on the list. I have collected all the names of the folks who want to be on it. When production nears, I will PM each of you on the list (in the order I received your input) to see where your interest is at and make arrangements accordingly.

Thanks Everyone,

Robbie

[trisonic]

Put me on the list too.
Sounds very nice and a neat design.

Best, Pete.

[LL1]

Hi Robbie,
Please add my name as well to "the list"
I would be interested in the dual channel.

Thank you,
Lann

[krbentley]

Please also put me on the list.

[thepimpdaddy]

Robbie - Impressive clips, and thanks so much for sharing this pre-production model with us all - we're so lucky on this board to get to preview some of the best in boutique pedals. I've never been terribly impressed with other pedals that claim to do the Tr*inwreck, or D*mble thing, but your pedal has some nice warmth to it.

Please put me on "the list" (for point of clarification - since everyone is specifying, and since I didn't specify in this post earlier, i am interested in the two-channel box only). I'm especially interested in this pedal's capability of being used as a pedal or as a preamp, as I use my effects that have that capability in both ways.

Cheers, and good luck - while there's many a slip twixt a cup and a lip, I'm hoping you see this idea through to its fruition (PS - if you need another guitarist to help you tweak the prototype, I'd love to help out - pm me if you want to send a trial pedal out my way - I have a 24-bit home studio, and I'd be happy to post clips for the pleasure of putting your OD through its paces before sending it back to ya).

PD

[blue_lu]

Robbie, thanks for your comment - I'm really lookin forward to your design; hope everything runs smoothly!

Maybe you should send one of your pedals to scott lerner ("scottl" here on the forums) - he seems to be quite an authority regarding the kind of tones you aim to achieve with this pedal. I think his input could be really helpfull - but then again - it already sounds really nice - so you just keep doing whatever you think is necessary and let us know when you're ready. :AOK


Regards, Lu

[MightyGuru]

Thx for the update, Robbie. A very exciting pedal. I'm already on the list here. Really cool to hear about a single channel version!!

[jaco]

Hi Robbie, looks like and impressive design. Please put me on "The List" , can't wait to hear more....

[teestone]

Robbie...

The pedal sounds great! I would love to be added to "The List". I will PM you as well. Time to be patient.....

[blue_lu]

DADUMMMMM Ladies and Gents - I present you "The List"!!!....:eek:.... that's some funny sh*t.:D

[Luke V]

Very impressive, very impressive. I was very skeptical, that is an amzing tone for a direct recording.

Where's the sign up sheet? I hope it comes in at a reasonable price.

I like to hear some clips with single coils, preferably a Strat.

[sparrow]

Robbie, please put me on the list for the 2 channel version.

thanks kindly

[maxVsf]

Put me on the list, as well!

[guitardude5]

Yeah, dude. Put me on the list for a two channel model as well. I didn't want to jump the gun until a "list" was offered. Thanks and have a nice day :)

[scottl]

Hey Robbie! So where is the tourbox demo at now?? LOL

I keep looking for the Fedex guy but he hasn't come.... ;)

[blue_lu]

Hey Robbie! So where is the tourbox demo at now?? LOL

I keep looking for the Fedex guy but he hasn't come.... ;)

Sorry Scott, I didn't mean to impose something on you when I was refering to you as an authority on this particular matter - I was merely making a suggestion to Robbie on who I think would be a competent player, listener and tweaker to optimise the pedal. Didn't mean to be too intrusive, sorry about that!

Regards, Lu

[zoooombiex]

I'll hop on the list as well if I may :)

[yZe]

Robbie I had requested to be put on a list before you had posted the
single or 2 channel option

I'd like to update my standing to that of the 2-channel one

Wow !! Thread started on 02-09-2007 and over 8,000 views !!

That's gotta be the sickest stats for TGP yet

[Frankenstrat2]

Robbie-
Are you planning on doing any limited edition Artist models in red suede?
Sorry, couldn't resist.
Almost posted the lemmings picture from another thread, but I don't want to lose my place in line for inciting bad karma.
Looking forward to being one of the first on my block.
Barry

[blue_lu]

I'll take the blue suede - with white leds! :)

Since everybody and their mother is updating their status regarding which list (one or two channel) I'm gonna do the same thing - two channel modell please! :D


Lu

[thelionsden]

I wanna be LISTED.... (please) :munch

[Notes]

I don´t know if you have a name for the pedal but, call me crazy...i have no idea why...something tells me you could name it: "The List".

J.

[fyrwyr]

"The List" is a great name!!!

[zapp_yz]

Put me on the list for the dual-channel one, please. Looking forward to this, and good luck!

[the_Chris]

Dual Channel please :BEER

[LVC]

Please add me to 2 channel list.

thanks -- PM sent as well

[Jim S]

PM sent yesterday but heck, I'll join up for the list too.

You guys realize that if nobody likes the pedal, you can't put it for sale in the Emporium because everybody here will have one! :NUTS

[thepimpdaddy]

Robbie - Sorry if I'm slow on the uptake but:

The "out" output has two options, in one mode (Fender guitar amp compensated) it compensates for the typical Fender notch making the amp flat band so the pedal is not effected by the amp.

So if I'm reading this correctly, the pedal has an output with a built in mid-boost to neutralize the typical blackface Fender mid-scoop? Do you have more detail on the Q and frequency range of the mid-boost from that output? Curious . . .

BTW - you indicated you've been working on this for five years - it certainly looks/sounds like you thought everything out very well - nice eye to the details :)

PD

[trisonic]

t

You guys realize that if nobody likes the pedal, you can't put it for sale in the Emporium because everybody here will have one! :NUTS

I'm not sure I only joined so I can "bitch" about nothing happening in one years time!

I wish him luck though.

Best, Pete.

[Thor]

Please add my name to the list.

Cheers,

Edward

[Herf]

Hi,
Please add me to the dual channel list.

Thanks!

[bc-cosmo]

Hi, Robbie--Please add me to the dual channel list too. Thanks and good karma your way as you productionize.

[PlayAndersons]

Robbie - I'm all in! Please add me to "The List" . Thanks!

[Uma Floresta]

Great sound clips... good luck with the product, I think it's a good one!

[ebenezer]

Please put me on the list!! Thanks!

[JingleJungle]

Whoa.
I had misse out completely on those clips.
Nice tone... I'm a willing guinea pig ;)
Put me on da' list - let's see what happens!

Paul Weber
aka JingleJungle

[amigo30]

Please "sign me up for a 2 channel, please!"

Good luck on your pedal business...sounds like you know how to get where you're going, and the clips sound great!

[GregS]

Please add me to the two channel list.

[rgsss14]

I'll take one of the two channels... can you put me on the list?

thanks,

[Garygtr]

Jeez....can I get on the "WTB" list in the Emporium? :crazy

[m3g]

Hey Robbie,

In order for you to spend more time on productionization, I wouldn't mind managing the list for you.

let me know!

pm also sent.

[tga-3]

I'm in. I'd like to be added to the list as well.
Thanks,
Rick

[JRL]

Please add me to the 2 channel list .

Thanks JL

[tonecat]

Please add me to the list

[Gearhunter]

Jot me down on the 2-channel list.:BEER

[Balance]

Please add my name to the list as well. As I don't know the price points, I could be interested in either or both the single and dual-channel pedals.

[Robbie]

Hi Everybody,

I took a minute to record a quick clip with a great backing track provided by Scott Lerner. (Thanks Scott!) I wanted to see how the box came through in a more complex mix. My earlier clips used a single guitar playing in the background.

A couple of notes: I only used the guitar's volume pot to control the amount of harmonics on the notes. I started off clean in the beginning of the song then gradually opened it up towards the end. The levels in the mix were kept constant with exception of the fade out at the end. I also purposely overran the backing track so you could hear the pedal by itself.


Thanks,

Robbie



BO HTPD
lo-fi URL: http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=5081931&q=lo

hi-fi URL: http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=5081931&q=hi

[blue_lu]

noice! just wondering though - is this a direct recording or through an amp? If so what amp were you using?

I'm still so excited about this pedal - it sounds so good!

Regards, Lu

[JingleJungle]

W/regards to my previous "reservation" - pls note I'd be interested in the 2 channel version.

Thx

JJ

[thelionsden]

W/regards to my previous "reservation" - pls note I'd be interested in the 2 channel version.

Thx

JJ

likewise....

[gw_bluesman]

WOW, almost 14 pages of posts .... glad I said "add me to the list" back on page 2, lol.

Any way, last clips sounded great Robbie and it seems you have serious interest here so however it works out, best of luck!!

I'll be looking forward to hearing from you when you are ready to ship.

Regards,

[scottl]

Nice playing Robbie! I can't wait to try one out! Nice top end clarity it has compared to many of the other OD pedals. Shoot me an email, would ya??

Hi Everybody,

I took a minute to record a quick clip with a great backing track provided by Scott Lerner. (Thanks Scott!) I wanted to see how the box came through in a more complex mix. My earlier clips used a single guitar playing in the background.

A couple of notes: I only used the guitar's volume pot to control the amount of harmonics on the notes. I started off clean in the beginning of the song then gradually opened it up towards the end. The levels in the mix were kept constant with exception of the fade out at the end. I also purposely overran the backing track so you could hear the pedal by itself.


Thanks,

Robbie



BO HTPD
lo-fi URL: http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=5081931&q=lo

hi-fi URL: http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=5081931&q=hi

[pinner]

Regarding my previous post, I would like the 2 channel.
Thanks
Stephan

[jzb]

Has it got a name yet? (or did I miss that part in the thread....)

[Sid]

Wow,
thats the best dumble pedal ive heard on a recording...as soon as someone can inform me of the price,Id like to get on the "the list":BEER

[Notes]

Has it got a name yet? (or did I miss that part in the thread....)

I don´t know if you have a name for the pedal but, call me crazy...i have no idea why...something tells me you could name it: "The List".

J.

:)

:D

.

[Robbie]

Hi Everybody,

It was very late when I posted the clip last night and didn't get a chance to provide the details.

Here they are:

Amp: None, Recorded Direct
Effects: Reverb only, No EQ, or compression was used.
Guitar: PRS Santana, bridge only, SD JB

Later, I plan to post clips that include different guitar and amp types.

Thanks,

Robbie



I

[blue_lu]

Amp: None, Recorded Direct
Effects: Reverb only, No EQ, or compression was used.



Wow! I *NEED* this pedal!

[curehardy]

add me to the list please :) ... what am i? # 3043?

[Mastervolume]

I'll take a 2 channel.

That is crazy.

[guitarpkr67]

When did the list start? I asked to be added on the 2nd page. Does that count? This thing looks awesome.

[dbx]

Has an estimated price been mentioned yet?

[rockindillo]

Yes please! I'll take one - and also put you in touch with someone who would love to distribute them in the UK!

[FlyingVBlues]

Please add me to the list as well......

FVB

[gandolf203]

Me too, me too. I'd like to be on the list for "The List".:crazyguy

[gregory49]

id like to know the price...

[Arp488]

if we could get a rough estimate of the price for the production model that would be great

[Robbie]

Hi Everybody,

Here's an update on productionization. I have been working very hard balancing part availability and cost. This is a very iterative process. Presently I have gone through 3 different board layouts and 2 different enclosure designs. The box is relatively hardware intenstive, eg 12 controls, 8 toggle switches, 3 footswitches and 3 jacks, so this becomes a bit more complex and costly than putting together a typical 3 knob pedal, so I have to do it right. I really appreciate everybody's feedback, patience and support. I'm targeting a price to be posted by the end of the month if all goes well.

Thanks,

Robbie

[Jim S]

...The box is relatively hardware intenstive, eg 12 controls, 8 toggle switches, 3 footswitches and 3 jacks...

Here's a pic of the unit: :)


http://www.photohome.com/pictures/texas-pictures/houston/nasa-mission-control-1a.jpg

[Reverb]

Here's a pic of the unit: :)


http://www.photohome.com/pictures/texas-pictures/houston/nasa-mission-control-1a.jpg


Is this a pic of the Single Channel or dual channel:roll

[xmentalpilot]

Please add me to the list of the dual channel buyers!

XmP

[cmogi10]

Put me on the list as a dual channel buyer as well

Carl

[dspblues]

Please add me to the list as well.

[Axeshack]

Why not, add me to the list also.

[jda]

Please add me to the list, probably 2 channel.

[Stratocast]

Please add me to the list.

[tonecat]

Robbie- What will the power requirements be? 9 volt, 18 volt ? battery ?
or A/C?

[Robbie]

Hi Everybody,

The unit operates via a 9V battery. There's also a jack for external power.

Thanks,

Robbie

[riker4208]

If there's a list.....please add me too it. This thing sounds AWESOME>>>>>>

thanks

[AaeCee]

OK. We've waited and been taunted long enough. Where are our pedals?!!! http://www.thegearpage.net/board/images/icons/icon10.gif

[RC2]

Here's a pic of the unit: :)


http://www.photohome.com/pictures/texas-pictures/houston/nasa-mission-control-1a.jpg

OMFG.... a new "NASA" inspired pedal with knobs and chairs... put me on the list I'll worry about what it sounds like and how much it costs later. It is true by pass though?

[Robbie]

Hi Everybody,

In the in-active mode the boutique overdrive utilizes a flat band unity gain buffer having an input impedance of 1 megohm and source impedance of 1kohm. This approach is required to support the internal switching topology of the unit and also helps mitigate pedals/cables loading effects down stream.

Thanks,

Robbie

[thelionsden]

OMFG.... a new "NASA" inspired pedal with knobs and chairs... put me on the list I'll worry about what it sounds like and how much it costs later. It is true by pass though?

No but is is true sky-pass :)

[soulohio]

I pm'ed you Robbie...great clips! put me on the list for a dual channel! how many miles to the gallon does this thing get?

[homerayvaughan]

PUT ME ON THE LIST TOO
please,
thank you!

[jonbaker]

I'd like to be added to the list for the two-channel pleaseee.

thanks

[mlp-mx6]

Put me on the list also - 2-channel version.

Thanks.

[markom89]

oh what the heck... PUT ME ON THAT LIST! :D... This looks pretty cool. When do you expect to start rolling them outta' tha' "factory"???- 2 channel version too.

[ryo84]

I'd be happy to be on the list, 2ch!

[Garygtr]

I can't stand feeling left out-please add me to the list for the 2 channel version ;)

[Frater B]

please add to "THE LIST" 2 channel

Thanks
B

[eames]

Please add me to the list for the two-channel.

thanks

[Stratocast]

Are there any clips of the pedal with the gain dimed? I'd like to hear them.

[Robbie]

Hi Everybody,

Just a quick update. The productionization is coming along. A couple notes of interest.

Housing Design
The BO housing will be a die cast alum box with dimensions roughly 7.4 x 4.7 x 1.3 inches. I went back and forth between this and a steel sheet metal design, and the diecast won for cost, robustness and compact size.

Amp Compensation
I have made quite a few tweaks to the amp compensation section of the pedal after trying it through numerous amps. This circuit has finalized to one switch and one knob. The switch inserts a circuit that compensates for the guitar amps tone stack as I had explained in my earlier posts, and the knob acts as a variable hi-cut which provides addtional control to compensate for amps having different high end characteristics.

Speak Sim Testing
Last weekend I had an opportunity to try the unit through the new BOSE stick PA system using the Speak Sim Output. The tone was equivalent to coming through my computer sound system. No tweaks were necessary.

Quotes
All data has been submitted to mfgs and am just waiting for final quotes. If all goes well, I should be posting prices within the next couple of weeks.

Thanks,

Robbie

[zion]

Thanks for the update!

[MightyGuru]

Awesome news, Robbie. Thx for the update....*umble fever....hehe.

[Robbie]

Hi Everybody,

Here's a quick update.


Price Update:
If all goes well, next week I should be posting a price for the dual channel Boutique Overdrive. The feedback received indicates there is greater interest in the dual channel version than the single channel. Once I do that I will be asking for your feedback/confirmation on "the list".

Sound Clips:
Based on many requests, I plan to post new sound clips at the end of the month based on the following guitars:
- Strat (single coil)
- Tele (single coil)
- PRS (humbucker)

The amp post configuration will be
- Fender Deluxe
- Marshall Valve State
- Direct.

For each sample the BO will be:
- bypassed
- clean channel,
- overdrive channel
- PAB (preamp boost).

I would like to thank everybody for their unbelievable support and patience.

Robbie

[lapis]

Robbie, please add me to the list.

Thanks

[rgsss14]

Hi Robbie -

I'd like to be added to the list, thanks!

[dennyman]

me too!

[Reverb]

Looking forward to hearing more clips soon!

[Jamnad]

Sounds great Rob!
I would like to be on the list for a dual channel pedal,
Thanks

[chipdog]

boutique 2 channel list please

[kennyz1955]

Robbie
please add me to the list
for the 2 channel
Thanks,
Kenny

[mattattack]

That looks incredibly versatile. For me, that amp sim out would be very useful. I wish more pedals had that feature.

please add me to the list!

[tjs]

Put me on the list, please.

[Dom]

Please add me to the list (2 ch.) as well. Thanks.

[stevie2600]

Please update my list status to the "2 channel" pile. Thanks.

[twangbanger]

Oh what the hell,you can add me to the 2 channel list.

[Stratocast]

Please update my list status to the "2 channel" pile. Thanks.

Please do the same with mine, thanks.

[rdamato]

Add me to the list. What about a group buy? Cheaper raw materials hence less cost to us.

[bluesdoc]

Isn't that essentially what's happening?

jon