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shooto
02-14-2007, 09:52 PM
is one more open than the other?...are they both low to mid gain pedals?

I've been looking at the vids on the site but they just have me confused now-

I'm leaning toward an AC to put in front of my Laney (not playing clean)...I need something to add a lttle hair with seperate bass/treble control-

thanks

mavrick10_2000
02-14-2007, 10:22 PM
AC Always has a little bit of grit even at the lowest setting. The RC does CLEAN.

shooto
02-15-2007, 06:19 PM
up for more

lv
02-15-2007, 06:23 PM
ac booster - medium overdrive design to boost an ac-30
rc "rig conductor" booster - clean boost with some very very light overdrive

JCM 800
02-15-2007, 06:28 PM
I suggest watching the demo videos on the Prosound site. You'll be able to get a much better idea of what each pedal can do.

shooto
02-15-2007, 06:44 PM
I did watch the vids....just got me confused...maybe to much input at once

the the RC is a VERY VERY light overdrive? not even up to a medium?

EddieFeder
02-15-2007, 06:54 PM
is one more open than the other?...are they both low to mid gain pedals?

I've been looking at the vids on the site but they just have me confused now-

I'm leaning toward an AC to put in front of my Laney (not playing clean)...I need something to add a lttle hair with seperate bass/treble control-

thanks

2 diodes in the loop, that's it.

bluesjuke
02-15-2007, 07:15 PM
I did watch the vids....just got me confused...maybe to much input at once

the the RC is a VERY VERY light overdrive? not even up to a medium?


The RC doesn't really get all the way to what I would call a medium gain but it can give you more gain than most of the description you will read.
I had all of the same questions that you have & ended up with both with the RC being first.
The AC followed very soon after.

The RC will give you a very good amp breaking up sound but not saturation.
The AC is close to leaving off where the RC leaves off with the RC adding sparkle & more open than the C.
The AC is darker with substaintially more gain than the RC.
They also go well with each other.
The AC has a lot of gain but doesn't get to much more than medium gain.

My advice is buy the one yout hink you will liike the most first & then get the other.

whoismarykelly
02-15-2007, 07:19 PM
RC = Really Clean
AC = Almost Clean

shooto
02-15-2007, 07:29 PM
thanks bluesjuke- do you use them with a high-gain amp?....I keep hearing the RC "opens" up the sound...makes it "bigger"...does the AC do the same due to it's treble/bass eq?

I want something to just give a little hair to a Laney GH100L (high-gain, marshall-y...not Mesa-y) and "open up" what I get out of it-

been experimenting and I have a powerblock for practice, I thow a Bad Monkey in front of it for more hair and a "bigger" sound due to it's high/low eq knobs.. so I tried it in front of the Laney and it's great but makes a terrible howl, even just as a boost with no gain....I like how I get a little extra hair and boost with it though-

I'm wondering if I get a "better" pedal for that umpf I won't have that howling problem so I'm looking at the Xotics because they have the seperate bass/treble eq-

I like the sound of the AC, does it do "bigger"?...but maybe the lower gain RC is enough with a bit of gain and it's rep for "opening up" your sound-

JCM 800
02-15-2007, 07:32 PM
RC = Really Clean
AC = Almost Clean

Actually that's not really what those mean. That's just an internet forum misnomer. Here's what Xotic says:

RC = Rig Conductor
AC = Vox AC series amps
BB = Blues Breaker

JCM 800
02-15-2007, 07:34 PM
I did watch the vids....just got me confused...maybe to much input at once

the the RC is a VERY VERY light overdrive? not even up to a medium?

Check out the Allen Hinds videos. I think he demos them about as well as you could. You should be able to tell exactly what pedal does what!

bluesjuke
02-15-2007, 07:35 PM
Sounds like the RC will do what you want.
As I said it is an open sound- like your amp onkly more of it.
It gives a nice sparkle and adds presence too.

The active EQ on the Xotics work great for adding or subtracting bass and treble. The EQ knobs have a center detente where their effect is neutral.

The amps I use are a Victoria Tweed Deluxe, Fender Bassbreakers, and a Blues Jr..
The Xotics work great with them & with my Bad Monkey & OCD.

shooto
02-15-2007, 07:37 PM
thanks for the input guys...I'll check Allen's vids again

whoismarykelly
02-15-2007, 07:40 PM
Actually that's not really what those mean. That's just an internet forum misnomer. Here's what Xotic says:

RC = Rig Conductor
AC = Vox AC series amps
BB = Blues Breaker

Regardless of what they really stand for, the "fake" titles reflect the sound of the pedals.

bluesjuke
02-15-2007, 07:45 PM
Actually they both sound better than the videos in person.

lifeinsong
02-15-2007, 08:25 PM
The RC is a great clean boost pedal and extremely versatile, and it can add a bit of hair if you want
The AC is kinda like a Tube Screamer without some of the mids
The BB(Blues Breaker)has even more gain than the AC and sounds a bit more compressed

*All 3 of the Xotic pedals are great in their own right and have really nice EQ controls, and when used together they sound phenominal!

cameron
02-15-2007, 08:44 PM
I have an RC and BB. I use the RC as my volume boost for solos, last item in my "lead loop".

My BB has been on loan to my keyboard playing collaborator for nigh on a year now. Probably won't get it back. He's getting good use out of it getting some Jon Lord growl out of his organ.

The RC is an excellent booster, with good tone controls. The little bit of gain that it gives by itself fattens up quite a bit if you put another dirt box in front of it. I really like the OCD -> RC combination. For a while I had been using a Hellbilly as my lead boost, and it's pretty good too, but for some reason the RC sounds much better with the OCD, so when the OCD came back onto the board, off went the Hellbilly.

The RC even sounds good with a raunchy fuzz cranked into it.

The BB can get you into almost as much gain as the OCD. But the OCD doesn't have the very noticable compression of the BB. I like the OCD as a crunch rhythm pedal, and the RC after it sounds amazing for leads. The BB is too compressed for a good crunch rhythm sound. It'd be a good lead pedal for someone who uses only the tiniest bit of grit or totally clean for a rhythm sound.

Never tried an AC pedal. I'm sure I'd find some use for it. Even if it did involve giving it out on permanent loan to a keyboard player.

shooto
02-16-2007, 08:37 AM
any more thoughts?