Another Eventide Timefactor question. . .

[g-nem]

Who knows anything about the looping functions? There is a definite shortage of info about this. Apparently the timefactor has 2 seperate sections- I'm curious whether that means two seperate loopers, of 1 looper + delay. Also, I'm curious about the standyby looper functions- reverse, half-speed, etc. Since it's 'based' on the orville algo's I'm thinking there's a chance it'll have a lot of these features, but you never know. . .

Anyone have any info?

[bluesmann]

I've been looking for more info on this pedal also. Even at the eventide site there is no info? I've been waiting, plus a t rex is on my list if they dont spill the beans soon.:horse

I think their counting on their name alone to sell this pedal.

[bluesmann]

Eventide sound in a stompbox!
The TimeFactor is a stunning advancement in the world of stompboxes. Bringing studio-quality delays from Eventide's massive arsenal of amazing effects to the studio or stage has never been easier. The TimeFactor is loaded with 10 of Eventide's best delays. The TimeFactor can also employ tap tempo and MIDI sync, and has an expression pedal input. The TimeFactor features a pair of inputs and a pair of outputs for stereo operation and the software can be upgraded via USB. Expect to see this rolling out later this year.

Eventide TimeFactor Features:

Studio-quality Eventide sound in a stompbox

10 time-tested delay effects in mono or stereo

MIDI sync, tap tempo, and an input for an expression pedal

True bypass

Guitar or line level inputs

USB

DigitalDelay

VintageDDL

TapeEcho

ModDelay

DuckedDelay

BandDelay

FilterPong

MultiTap

Reverse

Looper

[g-nem]

See this list doesn't answer the important questions- like does instant program change mean that there is instantly a loud pop everytime you switch programs? What kind of midi implementation is there- what kind of midi message controls looper functions, tap tempo, etc.

I did watch a video where the spokesguy said the looper has all the standard features like "varispeed"- I guess that's a good thing if I knew exactly what "varispeed" is!

[bluesmann]

:) i know what your sayin. you'd think they'd put a bit more info out than that. Dont let the hype get ya wait for the info.

aint no better than a line 6:jo

[GtrWiz]

:) i know what your sayin. you'd think they'd put a bit more info out than that. Dont let the hype get ya wait for the info.

aint no better than a line 6:jo



Do you have one? The demo I heard sounded much better than Line 6, mainley in the A/D conversion. Even my Keeley modded DL-4 basically sounds like crap...

[bluesmann]

Do you have one? The demo I heard sounded much better than Line 6, mainley in the A/D conversion. Even my Keeley modded DL-4 basically sounds like crap...

you fell for the line 6 stuff:jo lesson learned:mad: :) video's can be deceiving to the ear. Dont let the gas and hype get ya! Well, i guess we can always return the thing if we find it to b a POS

[GtrWiz]

you fell for the line 6 stuff:jo lesson learned:mad: :)


I was young... :NUTS :crazy :RoCkIn

[bluesmann]

I was young... :NUTS :crazy :RoCkIn


hey! i bought one of their amps years back. Big mistake!:jo

[g-nem]

So I sent an email to eventide asking for details, and they very quickly responded with this:

"First, just to clarify dual delay; although the TimeFactor has two inputs and two outputs, this does not enable the ability to send one effect to one output and another effect to the second output. For example, if you were running a mono in/mono out connection to the TimeFactor, you only have the ability to control two different delay times (Delay A & Delay B) to the same mono output. Or if you were connecting using both output channels, you could assign Delay A's time to channel 1 and Delay B's time to channel 2.

Only one effect i.e. "Vintage Delay" and its parameters can be used at one time. This also applies to Looper. Also, looper is a mono in/out connection only. If you were connected to a stereo source, the inputs are automatically summed to the input and the same mono signal drives both outputs identically.

Unfortunately Looper's exact specs have not been released to me at this time. However please continue to visit www.eventidestompboxes.com for updates.

BTW - I checked out your page and I enjoyed your Insidium group. I used to spin DnB, but now I am just a lover of it. Your group sounds great! Reminiscent of the great stuff of the Partisan label. You must love 4hero!"

Very cool of them to get back to me so quickly, and to really try to answer my questions! While this doesn't answer all my questions still it is nice to get a few more details.

But this does clarify one point- both delays are always of the same type- for example, vintage delay- what that means is that you CAN'T have vintage and tape delays, or looper and any delay. OK- well that is good to know.

[Angle Loss]

If they just released the manual as a pdf on their website, we could learn everything we needed to learn about. They could get a lot more people excited about it. The unknown usually equates to either unwarranted hype or scepticism as we have all been disappointed by some of the gear we most hoped for. For example, the DL4 cannot be programed for dotted eights! Sure you can do triplets, and quarters and whatever, but it was a major oversight. I'd like to know the specifics of this pedal. I have a friend getting one out of the first batch due here in a week or so---you think they could release the manual online already:jo

I'm a little :drool and a little :rolleyes: and need a whole lot more :BEER .

-Angle Loss

[autopilot]

But this does clarify one point- both delays are always of the same type- for example, vintage delay- what that means is that you CAN'T have vintage and tape delays, or looper and any delay. OK- well that is good to know.

That just killed my Gas for it, DD20 here i come

[whoismarykelly]

You cant do that with the DD20 either BTW.

[Alias Archtop]

I'm getting one

Delay is my favorite effect and I've owned a lot of good ones (fulltone TTE, maxon, SIB, moog, etc)

Each one does it's own thing...and drives me nuts cuz I'm tired of messing with multiple set ups etc.

now I just want one simple pedal...kinda like a line 6 on steroids... eventide seems perfect

[ChazMania]

I'm on a waiting list......eagerly awaiting.

[les]

How long before they start shipping?

[Angle Loss]

last half of may

[g-nem]

Another response from eventide re: multi-tap delay:

my question: how much control there will be over the multitap delays, as far as number of taps, volume and spacing of taps?

"You will definitely be able to adjust all three. The amount diffusion from least to greatest; the relative taper of the taps, which is quietest and which is loudest; and the spacing between, from the least amount of spacing to an equal amount to the greatest amount of space between taps.

I hope this helps!"

Sounding better and better- I have a feeling eventide will allow a lot of depth in editing. At least, I'm hoping so. The 'only one style of delay' -thing is a bit of a bummer, but understandable. I've been really GASing for the damage control timeline, but I think now I'm gonna hold off til I get a better feel for the timefactor.

[lifeinsong]

Sweetwater is getting them before most of the other dealers.They told me the first week of April...the bad news is that they all are already presold and won't be getting their next batch for 2-3 months.

[BmoreTele]

That's probably a good thing. I can wait to hear about the experiences of the folks who got in line first, instead of jumping in myself.

There's a few cliffs I've jumped off that I regret ... Flanger Hoax, ModMax, .......... Zendrive (just kiddin' :D )

[valen]

I am hoping the added features will be twice as good as the DD-20 (since its over double the cost). Then again all the extra features in the world mean nothing if they are not useful past the wow factor on first listen. I am just waiting to try one out before I go and buy the DD-20. I am hoping I won't have to.

[bluesmann]

Well guys, I said to heck with it and ordered a T rex today:hiP Not that the timefactor is out. I just want a good delay now!:JAM

[g-nem]

There's no point in waiting for an unreleased product as long as one exists that will do what you need it to. So good for you bluesmann- hope the t-rex rocks!

[jazzguitarplay]

i dont like having a big wall wort to power it and I dont like having to have to use a expression pedal to change parameters Can your audience really tell the diff in quality compared to a DD-20? or is it more for the the player, id rather have the real thing if possible, I hated the modeler line 6 amp I had and sold it, is this an other modeler? if it is, im sticking with a dd-20, why so freakin expensive?

[bluesmann]

Is it a modeler?
DigitalDelay

VintageDDL

TapeEcho

ModDelay

DuckedDelay

BandDelay

FilterPong

MultiTap

Reverse

Looper
:confused: :jo

[drolling]

Is it a modeler?
DigitalDelay

VintageDDL

TapeEcho

ModDelay

DuckedDelay

BandDelay

FilterPong

MultiTap

Reverse

Looper
:confused: :joYeah, I think it is!!

I'm a die-hard analog junky, but this's one of the few digital pedals that's really, really piqued my interest lately!

[bluesmann]

the only analog pedal i've ever liked was the old green MXR delay for short delay. Nothing i've ever heard is like it. Other than that, i like digital delays in general.

[Enjoyer]

I must confess that I am an analog delay zealot.

This pedal is, however, of great interest to me. As is the Echolution (and for other reasons, the new Mad Professor digital delay).

I am seriously considering wading into the "0's and 1's" pool and giving the Eventide a go. I may lose my ludite, analog delay cred just by posting this.

[aleatoric]

Anyone have a clue how preset changing works?

[Mincer]

you fell for the line 6 stuff:jo lesson learned:mad: :) video's can be deceiving to the ear. Dont let the gas and hype get ya! Well, i guess we can always return the thing if we find it to b a POS

my dl-4 absolutely rocks. as someone who makes a living using looping, i am interested in the timefactor, but sound quality is just one factor- it has to be as intuitive to use for live improvisations.

[bluesmann]

my dl-4 absolutely rocks. as someone who makes a living using looping, i am interested in the timefactor, but sound quality is just one factor- it has to be as intuitive to use for live improvisations.


rock on then:dude