Need some opinions from the Tyler owners

[LordRiffenstein]

I currently own a SE HD Burning Water (V60LPs + SD JB, midboost, rosewood neck) and absolutely love this guitar. I hardly pick up any of my other strats. Consequently, I´m thinking at getting another Tyler. I have been doing a lot of research the last couple of days and was close to getting a 2nd hand Landau Classic but it was already reserved for someone.

I´m looking to get one with a bit different vibe and tone then my BW. The BW is what I´d call a darker sounding guitar and I´d love something a bit brighter and mellow so that they would compliment each other. The 2 guitars that have peaked my interest most are:

-Hollow SE with a maple neck and Tyler single coils + custom SD bucker (all slanted), midboost
-Tyler Classic with rosewood board, same pickups as the BW

I´m wondering which one would be the most different from the BW. I love the look of both, they have the 59 shape neck that I LOVE. How different does a Classic sound from a SE when they have the same pickups? Another thing is that I had a Suhr SSH set (V54s + SSV+) at home that I could drop into the Classic to get a different vibe.

Oh yeah, I´m unable to test them before buying but get a tryout period, they are not at the same shop so I can´t get one to test and then the other. Descisions, descisions...

[mgrier1]

In my opinion, you have the archetypal Tyler guitar... Which is goodness...:AOK

I'd say if you went with either of those two other choices you'd have about as much difference as Tyler can provide from your current git... Maple neck and single coil being the largest tone differential in all liklihood...

Only difference I'd go for next time from my SE HD would be maple board - that's it... Personally, though... I don't know that I'd own two Tylers at once, though... This one is already a "swiss army knife"...

My 2 cents...

Best,

Mike

[imonabuss]

I am saving my money for a Tyler, and hopefully will have enough soon. My two favorite guitars I currently play are an ash bodied Strat with Barden pickups, and a Sur Pro-Series 1 in Alder, both rosewood. The Suhr is more comfortable to play, and I miss less notes on it, but the Strat is more "ringy" in sound. I'm not into pure old vintage type pickups as you can tell from what's on my guitars, but I still like a edgy version of single coil sound. There is no one near me with Tylers, and I'd really like to get close to what I want the first time. There are so many combinations of Tylers out there (ash, alder, mamy, hollow, Duncans, DiMarzios, Suhr's, and now Tyler pickups!), can anyone with lots of experience advise me what combination is likely to give me the sound I want?

[Pa'ani]

Give David Pillips at L.A Sound Design a call or email. www.lasounddesign.net
He has a bunch of killer Tyler Guitars in stock.
He's a great guy to deal with and really knows his stuff!

[matt5150]

I would probably go with a Classic with a maple neck and three singles or H/S/S.

My BW is darker as well, and my Classic is definitely more open and warm.

You may also want to consider a hollow Tyler like the SE Retro.

Matt

[dkaplowitz]

I had a Tyler SE BW2K with V60LPs and a mamywo body and it was very punchy and aticulate. Definitely wasn't dark. It had a r/w fingerboard too.

I currently have an Alder/maple with r/w classic that's very vintage strat sounding. with 2 JTV scs and a Landau Secret humbucker in the bridge. The bridge is more bite-y than vintage though.

Great sounding guitars. I want a new SE bad.

[Flinto2002]

Two words.....GO HOLLOW

Seriously, the hollow option is awesome, i have a hollow alder Jimburst that probably weighs around 6lbs, it's ridiculously good sounding, either clean or diry and is so light you can play it all night and not even know it's on. She's on the left.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e191/FLINTO2002/2tylers.jpg

Or you coul get one of these.....Mongeese are fun, and they are also hollow (at least this one is)
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e191/FLINTO2002/MUSIC%20PHOTOS/Tyler001.jpg

Depending on the year of your BW you might want to check the pots, My BW had 250K pots and was dark....I switched to 500K and the guitar opened up huge.

[Ed DeGenaro]

Got a Holow BW and the alder/ash sandwich hollow SE HD...I'd say you can't go wrong with hollow. Although it will give you a bit more honk.

[imonabuss]

Thanks for all the great advice, everyone.

[brent]

My BW is my number 1 guitar, I joke that it will have to be buried with me
Since it is all I played and I am addicted to the neck, I decided to go all Tyler last year.
I just got a Mongoose as a 2-bucker axe - hollow mahogany; mahogany neck I believe is from the same piece of Mahogany as the body with Jim's fat carve (his typical feel but slightly fatter) and a rosewood board
Next step is going to get a Alder/Ash hollow, maple board Classic (while he still makes them) with the standard neck, Jim's singles with the Suhr system installed for strat tones.
I'll consider telebastar or a p-90 Mongoose later.

Everything else is going.

yep, I just kinda like them a little

[LordRiffenstein]

In my search the last couple of days I found another one that is even more peaking my interest. Tyler Classic, alder body, maple neck, SSH and a schmear. The only thing I´d rather see different is the fact that it has non-locking tuners but that won´t spoil the fun I guess.

Still undecided, I would love the hollow with maple neck but it´s again an SE and I´d rather have a Classic I think, he also might not be making them when ever I get to buy another :roll:roll

[gerryguitar]

I don't own a Tyler... yet.. but I once borrowed a BW from a friend for about a month and it was fantastic.. he had my old Valley Arts guitar.. it had 9 guage strings on it which I don't like so I stuck a set of 10's on there and it was like a different guitar... totally full of vibe and mojo... I did about 6 gigs with it and totally got what the fuss is all about... it was the best strat type guitar I have ever played... when I got my VA back again.. I was stuck by fact that it was slicker and smoother than the Tyler but the Tyler had a vibe that was addictive... I'm gonna get one soon for sure.. awesome musical instruments...:drool

[imonabuss]

There are a lot of derivatives in Tyler's stuff, with little description of what makes them different. I spoke last week with a salesman at a dealer who sells them, and he was clueless. I will call the fellow mentioned above in LA next week. Do any of you know what the differences are between a SE and a SE HD and a SE retro for example? On TYler's web site, there are of course different pictures for each, but the specs seem the same.

[Flinto2002]

In my search the last couple of days I found another one that is even more peaking my interest. Tyler Classic, alder body, maple neck, SSH and a schmear. The only thing I´d rather see different is the fact that it has non-locking tuners but that won´t spoil the fun I guess.

Still undecided, I would love the hollow with maple neck but it´s again an SE and I´d rather have a Classic I think, he also might not be making them when ever I get to buy another :roll:roll

you can order a hollow classic. Hollow is an option on either the studio elite or classic

[Flinto2002]

There are a lot of derivatives in Tyler's stuff, with little description of what makes them different. I spoke last week with a salesman at a dealer who sells them, and he was clueless. I will call the fellow mentioned above in LA next week. Do any of you know what the differences are between a SE and a SE HD and a SE retro for example? On TYler's web site, there are of course different pictures for each, but the specs seem the same.

The SE has the midboost, lead/rhy circuit (the 3 mini switches and blower), 5 way, vol, tone, boost knob. Usually a VS50 bridge (2 post, stainless saddles)

The SE HD is same as above but without the lead/rhy circuit. so it's only a 5 way, vol, tone, mid and a boost bypass button.

The SE HDP is as above but no midboost...the "P" denoting passive

The SE retro is typically passive, 6 screw trem, locking klussons, and usually has 3 singles.

[imonabuss]

Thanks for the additional info, Flinto. It seems like most dealers have the HD I guess, since none of the guitars I am seeing in their stores have the switches.

[LordRiffenstein]

After looking at pretty much any Tyler available I came back to the one I have been lusting about for well over a year. I got a great deal on it too so I have a Classic coming my way. Pics and thoughts when she arrives!

[JeffD]

The SE has the midboost, lead/rhy circuit (the 3 mini switches and blower), 5 way, vol, tone, boost knob. Usually a VS50 bridge (2 post, stainless saddles)

The SE HD is same as above but without the lead/rhy circuit. so it's only a 5 way, vol, tone, mid and a boost bypass button.

The SE HDP is as above but no midboost...the "P" denoting passive

The SE retro is typically passive, 6 screw trem, locking klussons, and usually has 3 singles.

Thank you! Care to offer a brief description of the lead/rythym circuit?

[Flinto2002]

Lead/Rhythm works like this....

(Lead) Blower switch engaged....Bridge pickup in series, regardless of 5-way or mini switch setting

(Rhythm)Blower switch not engaged....now you have your standard 5 way switch, plus individual control over the pickups with the mini switch, each mini switch gives you series, split, parallel over each pickup.... so you can set say bridge and middle to split, for a nice quacky strat sound....then set neck for series for a thick round solo tone...then for full on mayhem you engage the blower switch and quickly go to bridge pickup in series for hi gain stuff.

it's pretty versatile and works similarly to the Andserson system but also incorporates the 5 way so you're not just limited to one rhythm setting. Anyone who has used the anderson system has noticed the dificulty changing pickup settings on the fly....turn off one pickup, turn on another....oh wait, you want series or split...better turn the guitar over and get at the switcheroo. Andersons are great, don't get me wrong, this setup is just a little better for live use. IMHO