The New 65 Amps Bass Amp

[wstsidela]

I just heard about it from my friend. Does anyone else know anything about it?

I guess I'll have to give Dan Boul a call and find out what's going on.

:RoCkIn

[mgrier1]

Westside,

Keep us posted... This will be a very cool bass amp, I'm sure!

Best,

Mike

[wstsidela]

Here is Dan Boul's response to my inquiry:

Bass amp . . . 100watts . . . .big, rich, detailed . . . .smoooooooth! I’ll tell you more when we catch up!

I'll see Dan in a couple of weeks. I'll post more info when I get it.

:munch

[Shane S]

Thank god I don't play bass otherwise I would have to add this to my 65 collection.

[wstsidela]

Thank god I don't play bass otherwise I would have to add this to my 65 collection.

I hear ya. I have a nice little bass setup (Fender Jazz bass, Eden Nemesis 200 watts bass amp) for my studio. I consider myself a guitar player but I love playing bass. It definitely makes me appreciate the instrument.

[Doug's Tubes]

Thank god I don't play bass otherwise I would have to add this to my 65 collection.

It wouldnt be the first bass amp that possibly sounded good with a guitar though would it?(Fender Bassman, Marshall, Gretsch/Valco)...........

[Shane S]

It wouldnt be the first bass amp that possibly sounded good with a guitar though would it?(Fender Bassman, Marshall, Gretsch/Valco)...........

Can't say that until I get the chance to play one. That said, I have no real use for a 100-watt amp at this time. The KT-77 Royal Albert is more than enough for me.

[dookie]

65 Amps Soho and the cab with the H30 and blue on order...

I can't wait...

[Swampash]

Can't say that until I get the chance to play one. That said, I have no real use for a 100-watt amp at this time. The KT-77 Royal Albert is more than enough for me.
Try your bass through that for a little change-up...... ;)

I predict it will bring smiles! :D

[wstsidela]

Ok, here's the 411.

Dan Boul created the new 65 bass amp after hearing Keith Urban play his bass through the Royal Albert at rehearsal. The new amp is modified for bass. Meatier transformer. He's not doing the cabs. He said he has about a dozen orders already. I told him to make it 13!!

[jokerjkny]

i know i'm totally jumping the gun here, but...

...great...

yet another underpowered bass amp. :(

[wstsidela]

i know i'm totally jumping the gun here, but...

...great...

yet another underpowered bass amp. :(

The amp is 100 watts. I have a gig in a couple of weeks and I'm picking up the prototype. I'll know more then.

[Swampash]

i know i'm totally jumping the gun here, but...

...great...

yet another underpowered bass amp. :(
The LA pro players who have been helping with R&D say it's as loud as an SVT! :eek:

The KT-77's are just plain LOUD (somehow beyond their apparent rated output)...also, the output tranny - by Mercury - is wound to go down to 20 hz. I understand that it's - the output tranny - the size of a double-wide trailer. :roll

After Keith Urban's bass player played the Royal Albert, as a bass amp, the idea was born. Before the day was done, 65 Amps had 3 MORE orders from other LA guys who had heard ABOUT it.

It totally took Dan Boul by suprise...they were not even intending to make a bass amp. It just grew from people hearing it, and the momentum took it into a whole new product line.

[mainsale]

Sounds promising but 100 watts is 100 watts. I'm not convinced that it is enough, but we'll see.

[jokerjkny]

The amp is 100 watts. I have a gig in a couple of weeks and I'm picking up the prototype. I'll know more then.

100 tube watts might be great for a good ol' thick midrangey rock 'n roll 4 string bass sound, but it'll most likely it'll make my low B string sound like a flubby mess. :(

to truly feel the punch of big low frequencies, you need power. period. i.e. try telling a soundman to use just 100 watts for his PA's sub.

[thunderbroom]

100 tube watts might be great for a good ol' thick midrangey rock 'n roll 4 string bass sound, but it'll most likely it'll make my low B string sound like a flubby mess. :(

to truly feel the punch of big low frequencies, you need power. period. i.e. try telling a soundman to use just 100 watts for his PA's sub.

Basses have 4 strings. Only banjos have 5.:crazy




I totally joking and not trying to start a 4string vs. 5+ string war

[Bassomatic]

Basses have 4 strings. Only banjos have 5.:crazy




I totally joking and not trying to start a 4string vs. 5+ string war

That's good cuz that war ended long ago, and both sides won.:BEER

[thunderbroom]

Any updates on the 65 amps bass amp?

[Robal]

It's voicing is still being refined, so a few proto units have been shipped to pro players for their input. The latest version of the OT (custom wound by Mercury Magnetics for 65amps) is huge, about the size of the huge PT.

[pete kanaras]

Sounds promising but 100 watts is 100 watts

man, 100 bass watts is palenty loud IF you know what you're doing. it sounds like they're on the right track for sure. you can't waste a single watt, and the results can be shocking. i for one can't wait to hear it, and i'm sure it'll change people's misconceptions about massive juice needed for bass. imho it just ain't so, and i'll tell you why. feel free to laugh at this, but i am one happy mofo these days

i just had my long time dream project finished. a bf bassman i've had forever just grew up. it's been my only bass amp for 20 years, and was loaded with el34's and stock iron from the day i got it. it just got bumped up to a blonde showman OT(enormous; a 150% upgrade over stock), a beefier Allen upgrade bassman PT, pair of winged C 6550's and some mild circuit tweaks to greatly reduce that Famous Fender Farting down low. it's now putting out around 65 watts clean and is Very deep and tight sounding. Ampeg BT15 cab with an EV15B Eminence clone. new caster tray with 4" blue Guitels. had the 1st gig with it saturday night with a fairly loud 5piece blues band with keys. 150 seat club, medium sized. everything's mic'd up, and on the first tune the Entire band looked over at that rig, just bug-eyed. me too! a big comfy cushion of phat it was. oh, '62 ri P with very old LaBella flats. the keyboardist simply could NOT believe it, shaking his head laughing and pointing at it. my bud pulled me right out the mix because the reinforcement simply was'nt needed, and i then dialed the amp down too, from 6 1/2 to 6 and left it there all night. he then eased me back in a bit, just barely he said. haha, i think he was just telling me that to appease me! anyway imagine that, with a "little 'ol" 60 watt head.

so, count me among the converted; this rig is simply outrageous. and i can only imagine what it'd sound like with 2 B15 cabs....

[thunderbroom]

I've been thinking about what cab(s) to pair witht the 65 bass amp and i think i'm going to order a repro tone ring showman cab a nd load it with a jbl d140 to go for that crazy horse live at the fillmore bass tone. I have some bigger cabs to try it out with like bergantino nv610 and a nv215. Plus i have a divided by thirteen bass 4x12 on the way. i can't wait to hear this thing.

[PB+J]

I've done a bunch of gigs with just a 30 watt ampeg B-15, but for that to work takes a lot of things

drummer who can swing without heavy hitting--rare
other players who understand about eq'ing for a mix, instead of for "my sound"--also rare
a bass tone that's all midrange/low mid--a nice soound, but not the only sound out there
a bass tone that works with some distortion--also a nice tone, but not the only one out there


I like all these things, I just can't count on getting them. And over time my bass playing has evolved to where now I want a very clean tone, controlled, with no distortion. And I play a five string, so I need more power and range.

A lower wattage tube amp can work, but you sacrifice a lot of options IMHO, and the rest of the players have to be good--not just flashy, but good in the sense of listening and knowing how to blend. That's my opinion/experience anyway

[wsaraceni]

i think the purpose is to get 4 of em. 4 stacks always look better on stage than 1 anyways

[Steeltoe]

100 watts of tube bass power is not enough if you are in a rock band.
200 is better, and 300 is best.
My bassist tried out his V4 into a 610 cab, and it turned to mush at
band volume. He then bought a SVT VR and now he is swinging.
With a strong drummer and guitarist with a typical 50 or 100 watt amp,
you will not cut thru with a measly 100 watts.
It is more suited to low volume situations or home practice.

[jay42]

It really depends on whether you're using the amp to monitor your self on stage, or pump it out to the crowd. I've been at a concert or two, where all the bass player had was a Music Man HD-130 into an approprite cab or two...miked.

[wstsidela]

I borrowed the prototype last night for my gig at the Pechanga casino (http://www.pechanga.com/entertainment/cabaretlounge.asp) and resort.

I have a one word description for the amp: Amazing!! It has a big fat juicy bottom without that annoying mid-freq honk.

IMHO It was the best bass sound I've ever heard on that stage and the soundman agreed.

I have to drive back to LA and drop it off but I'll be back to answer any questions.

Victor

[Swampash]

I borrowed the prototype last night for my gig at the Pechanga casino (http://www.pechanga.com/entertainment/cabaretlounge.asp) and resort.

I have a one word description for the amp: Amazing!! It has a big fat juicy bottom without that annoying mid-freq honk.

IMHO It was the best bass sound I've ever heard on that stage and the soundman agreed.

I have to drive back to LA and drop it off but I'll be back to answer any questions.

Victor
OK...I'll play.


Let's hear more about it. :D

[wstsidela]

OK...I'll play.


Let's hear more about it. :D

The sound seemed to hang in the air, waist high. Does that make sense? Instead of big and boomy, it was fat and low. Our bass player used a Fender Jazz with an Ashdown cab. I'm not sure what was in it but it wasn't a big cab.

[pete kanaras]

hey wstsidela, how about getting your bass player to chime in here?

[wstsidela]

hey wstsidela, how about getting your bass player to chime in here?

Will do. I'll email him and ask him.

[Loni Specter]

I know that Keith Urban's bass player will be using the head through an svt cab Sat night at Staples.

[FFTT]

I'm sure the tone is wonderful and would be fantastic for recording.
Also in situations where you have excellent cross stage monitoring.

The trouble with that power range comes when stage volume gets out of hand and the bass player has to play harder to cut through.

It may sound good out front through the PA, but the bass player may have to work a lot harder than he might want to.
That's where that reserve power of a vintage SVT comes in handy.

The choice of speaker enclosure would definitely be critical in a live
situation.

Not sure how it would sound pushing a heavy duty 18" driver or a pair of 15"s.

I can only guess that the enclosure of choice would be a 4X10 or 8X10
to help the sound cut through the mix.

[enharmonic]

The sound seemed to hang in the air, waist high. Does that make sense? Instead of big and boomy, it was fat and low. Our bass player used a Fender Jazz with an Ashdown cab. I'm not sure what was in it but it wasn't a big cab.

Very cool description. I had a similar experience with an early Eden amp. If it's anything like the Royal Albert, I might have to pick one up for the heck of it :D

[biffonbass]

I've used a Bassman 100 quite a bit.
Not mine, wish it was.
Much more headroom than a B-man 50.
Good tone thru almost any cab.:RoCkIn

[biffonbass]

I posted on the wrong spot.
My bad.