X2 Digital Wireless Problem - Impedance?

[Tweeker]

Are there other X2 users that cannot use wah or fuzz with this digital wireless unit? It causes my Teese wah and Neo fuzz to greatly increase in volume and sound unbearably harsh. I use the exact 15 foot cable from the transmitter to the pedalboard and 10 foot cable from pedalboard to amp that I do when going wired.

The spec that the manufacturer gives is 1.8K ohms for the transmitter output. Is it possible that a 1.8K ohm signal is causing the problem? Also, the tech at X2 says that out of the thousands of units sold, no one else has mentioned incompatibility issues with wah or fuzz. What gives?

[WKG]

I haven't had any problems with mine. I run mine into a Tonepress then into a Budwah. No different than before with the Tonepress on or bypassed.

[Tweeker]

I haven't had any problems with mine. I run mine into a Tonepress then into a Budwah. No different than before with the Tonepress on or bypassed.
WKG,
All of my pedals work fine with the X2 EXCEPT for fuzz and wah. A compressor isn't so sensitive to pickup impedance and should work fine.
Regarding your wah - does the Budwah use a buffer circuit?

[Tweeker]

I Am Not Crazy

I'm not a tech and don't know ohms from mV, but I trust my ears. Sometimes I just need reassurance from those in the know. Luckily, MI Audio has responded to my inquiry asking about fuzz turning to crap with the X2 wireless:
On Jun 15, 2007, at 9:50 PM, MI Audio Info wrote:
...it will certainly sound harsher. The Neo's input is designed to interact with the output impedance of your guitar pickup....So in short, yes. Putting a buffer such as this one at the input of the Neo will certainly change the tone...
Regards
Michael

The Neo fuzz is so versitile and such a part of my sound - I use it to layer, eq, attenuate, and of course, as a fuzz. Without some work around, there's no way I can use the X2 Digital Wireless system with my set up. I can't believe I'm only one of thousands with this situation?!?!?!?!?!?!?!:munch

[bigroy]

I've not tried the X2, but I've had problems in the past using a wah with a wireless.

[JCM 800]

This isn't an X2 problem. This would be true for every wireless system out there. It is an impedance issue. Nothing you can really do about it.

[Tweeker]

This isn't an X2 problem. This would be true for every wireless system out there. It is an impedance issue. Nothing you can really do about it.
I am beginning to believe this is true. But there are players out there that use traditional (non-buffered) wah and fuzz with wireless systems (maintaining their tone and gain structure). How do they do it??!?!?!!?!??!?!??!!???:jo

[JCM 800]

I am beginning to believe this is true. But there are players out there that use traditional (non-buffered) wah and fuzz with wireless systems (maintaining their tone and gain structure). How do they do it??!?!?!!?!??!?!??!!???:jo

Like who?

[Tweeker]

Like who?
You're saying that wireless guys don't use wah and/or fuzz?

[JCM 800]

Usually a wah by itself won't have any issues with wireless. A fuzz, will always have issues if you are using a wireless. Any of the fuzz guys I know use a cable. It's the traditional fuzz circuit that is the issue. Can't really do much about it.

[ClinchFX]

There is a page at AMZ, http://www.muzique.com/lab/pickups.htm that shows how to make a simple pickup simulator. This would go between the wireless receiver and the fuzz, and may help.

Peter.