How about some studio drum miking pics?

[1bender]

Don't know if this has been asked previously but I'd like to see pics of drum kits already miked up in the studio. I have a home recording studio and am always interested in seeing(more than reading about) successful miking techniques....so pics and maybe a run down of what mics are being used. :AOK

[vladshap]

Although I don't have pictures, I can describe to you how I mic up the drums.

Snare:
Bottom - SM57 about 1/4th of an inch away from the head w/reverse polarity
Top - SM57 almost flat across the snare, maybe about a 10-15 degree angle. The tip of the microphone is about 1 inch from the top of the snare, and 1 inch from the rim of the snare (horizontally) inside.
Bass Drum:
Outer head - ElectroVoice N/D868 - depending on how the drummer likes it, but I like it only about 1 inch inside the bass drum, to get a nice bass response. I also usually point it at the beater.
Beater Head - PG52 pointed straight at the beater about 3 inches away to get that that punchy clicky sound.

Toms - SM57s, though I one day I will replace them with 421s :) About 3 inches up 45ish degree angle, pointed to the center of the tom.
Overheads - 3-4 feet up, using AKG C1000s.

[thesedaze]

The bad thing about both reading particular setups and even seeing pictures is not knowing what style they were capturing (unless you are familiar w/ the particular recording).

Different styles call for different mic'ing techniques as well as mic's.

Not to mention even the type of drum, drum head, muffling, etc. can really change a lot of variables.

A great resource is mixonline.com

I use their search engine extensively to find out what such and such engineer used on this or that recording....Often times successful engineers have done so many recordings that none of it really gets documented.

Best way to find out who engineered what, is to search for albums on allmusic.com, then look at the credits and find the engineer[s]. Then do the name search in mixonline.com

[1bender]

Thanks for the input guys. I have been lucky seeing/copying various drum mic set up's from pics in the past. I realize there are tons of variables involved but I have a load of different mics to choose from. The way I see it, there will never be the "perfect" drum track.

[thesedaze]

Not mine...

Variation of the Glyn Johns setup:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/83/279188468_65d1dfcb37.jpg?v=0
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/93/279188579_875a8ff123_o.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/140/350927420_08ba3fb390_o.jpg

[1bender]

Looks great...keep them comming!

[hw2nw]

ok, I can play this game. From our most recent CD, done in a rehearsal hall for choir/ensembles.


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b393/rlerds/IMG_0789-1.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b393/rlerds/IMG_0783-1.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b393/rlerds/IMG_0771-1.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b393/rlerds/IMG_0759-1.jpg

[jhfire]

Variation of the Glyn Johns setup:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/83/279188468_65d1dfcb37.jpg?v=0
QUOTE]

Can you elaborate on this? I loved the drum sounds he's captured. Have you worked with him or did you read something?

[mdog114]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v35/mdog114/studiosession1.jpg

[E-Rock]

This is a cabin we rent for the weekend and record improv jams.
Pretty sweet way to spend a weekend!
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/E-Rock000/IMG_0593.jpg

[E-Rock]

ok, I can play this game. From our most recent CD, done in a rehearsal hall for choir/ensembles.


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b393/rlerds/IMG_0789-1.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b393/rlerds/IMG_0783-1.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b393/rlerds/IMG_0771-1.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b393/rlerds/IMG_0759-1.jpg

Holy crap, that's quite a room!
So are those Royers for the room mics?
Charter Oaks for the OH? I can't tell what they are.

[zenfreud]

1bender, here is a thread on the Gearslutz website that is exactly what you asked for:

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/high-end/6803-pictures-miced-up-drum-kits-studio.html

hw2nw, cool pics, thanks for posting, looks like a serious room for playing & capturing music. I see a guy sitting at a laptop, he must be doing the recording, no? Is there a dedicated control room at that space?

[loudboy]

Not mine...

Variation of the Glyn Johns setup:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/83/279188468_65d1dfcb37.jpg?v=0
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/93/279188579_875a8ff123_o.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/140/350927420_08ba3fb390_o.jpg

You just MIGHT want to consider some new heads on those toms, at some point... <g>

[1bender]

zenfreud, thanks for that link...good stuff here, there everywhere...I love this place...

[hw2nw]

hw2nw, cool pics, thanks for posting, looks like a serious room for playing & capturing music. I see a guy sitting at a laptop, he must be doing the recording, no? Is there a dedicated control room at that space?


Yeah, the guy at the laptop was doing the recording. His name is Paul Miner, he just did the latest New Found Glory and Eisley records. I am still a student at a music school so I was able to get the keys to a huge rehearsal room for the weekend. Usually it houses a 66-piece wind orchestra. The drums came out awesome. For the guy who posted above asking about the room and OH mics, I don't remember off the top of my head which they are. Below is the rack it was all running into:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b393/rlerds/IMG_0752-1.jpg

[E-Rock]

Mmmm API's :)