Marshall JVM video walkthough (youtube) with close mic audio

[MikeLivesley]

Hi guys, I made this for another forum but thought some people might like to watch it. Basically just me playing through the channels and modes of the amp, audio was close mic'd SM57.

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmVupUndwXU
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPVmb2NXTCY

[jlagrassa]

Nice Demo Mike, that's one versatile amp.... Thanks for sharing!

[MikeLivesley]

Wow 35 views and 1 reply (!). Must have made an impression!

Thanks for watching/listening, jlagrassa. I appreciate it. Had fun making it.

[HeeHaw]

I see Marshall managed to keep the angry, buzzy bees in a tin can sound just like the TSL and DSL.:D

[mranonimouse]

Enjoyable. Entertaining as well. Good to see some one playing some chords and not just noodling all over the fretboard as well.

[Radagacuca]

nice job!

i just got home from checking out the jvm besides others (2266vm / 1959slp / orange ad30htc / vht deliverance / orange rocker combo / h&k trilogy...)
i found the jvm to be a very easy to play and dial in amp that sounds good on ALL volume levels and through most cabs. i really liked it! great versitality and tone for the price!

:dude

[photios]

Thanks for that Mike...great demo...should be very helpful for those giving the JVM a serious look...makes you wish everyone would do that with their amps.

[conundrum]

I see Marshall managed to keep the angry, buzzy bees in a tin can sound just like the TSL and DSL.:D

Hmm, I didn't hear any bees in those clips, and I'm a pretty anti-bee sorta fellow. I find Mesa's usually have the most bee-to-tube ratio.

[bailnout]

Good demos, dude! I like the text that you added to the video and the humor. I think I'll go check one of these out. Would love to hear it in person and through a 4x12 now that I've heard your demo. Thanks!

[hamfist]

Great demo. Thanks bud ! I definately heard bees though !

[HeeHaw]

Hmm, I didn't hear any bees in those clips, and I'm a pretty anti-bee sorta fellow. I find Mesa's usually have the most bee-to-tube ratio.


Sounded like thin fizz to me.

[carlygtr56]

Sounded like thin fizz to me.


I agree. Sending that head into a 10" speaker doesn't help either.

[SvenHock]

I tried one at the local store today, really liked the clean channel but couldnt crank it up much so asked if I could bring it home, I did, cranked it up and found that I can only use two channels, clean and crunch. The rest is too gainy for me. I can get the crunch sounds from my JCM 800 and guess I'll pick up a Vibrolux Reverb or something similar for cleans. It goes back to the store tomorrow.

[Plexihacker]

Great demo but I think it does the amp a disservice to be using a single ten inch speaker for the demo. You lose the bottom end and over-accentuate the top-end fizz. Through a proper 4X12 cab with G12H speakers the amp sounds fantastic and well-rounded, IMHO.

[mike@nortoncable.com]

I think allot of people that RAVE about this amp really need to try
JCM800 2210s or 2205s!! You have no idea what your missing if you havent! JVM & VM are No match to 800s in tone quality. Don't get me wrong. Both amps are good but the JVM and VM's are Lacking the Classic Marshall tonal dynamics that Plexis and JCM800 base amps have.. They arent emulating or replicating any Classic Marshall purist tone like Marshall claims. Its a modern hi gain amp like a mesa dual rec or a Diezel.. All my years of playing I've never seen marshall have such Massive success with amps like that DSL,TSL, AVT etc that they've had with JCM800's, Plexis etc.

Marshalls Legend *corny term* is built on 59' Plexis/JMPs/Super leads/800s etc and they really hit it massive with JCM900's. I think this JVM/VM is gonna fizzle and fade like the last 3 lines of amps they released..

Marshall is going after Mesa Rectifier sounds and thats not what there about. I've yet to be impressed with these new JVM and VM amps you can get a good JCM800 for the same money that will deliver better tone and give you the best of all worlds - if you want the insane gain your a $120 away with a good tube over drive pedal.

Sorry if this post insults anybody just my .02 cents and what I notice being involved with several music stores sales etc.

[SvenHock]

[QUOTE=-Analog-;2745565]I Its a modern hi gain amp like a mesa dual rec or a Diezel.

Marshall is going after Mesa Rectifier sounds and thats not what there about.QUOTE]


Agreed to a point. Marshall is just trying to please us all and with the JVM, they came close but I do not need a 4 channel amp and gobs of gain.

[Roodboy]

Its alright to not like the amp but if you think Marshall "hit it massive" with the 900 I don't know of many who would agree, myself included and I've owned a 900.
However, if you want a more vintage tone the VM is there or the RI 800/1959/1974 etc.

As far a classic Marshall tone, the JVM cops the vibe of a 1959 and 2204 and thats not too shabby, does it nail it ... no but I don't know of amp that does that has 4 channels. But it comes closer than the TSL/DSL's I've owned.
Does it do recto, I don't think so. But I think OD2 red is a lot of fun.
Maybe I'm still in the honeymoon stage but its been over 4 months. Overall I really like mine.

[mike@nortoncable.com]

just speaking with a marshall rep a few months ago. We were talking and He claims marshall made more $$$ with JCM900 then 800s or DSL/TSL since so I would consider they hit it big. Lots more JCM900s out there amps/cabs. I just dont understand why Marshall doesnt reissue 2 channel 800's they would be suprised.

My recto reference was to the distortion sound of OD2 red its Thin-buzzy- bee like distortion like my recto. And thats not really what marshall is about. 4 months is a long honey moon- time to have an affair.

[Roodboy]

I could see how hey made a lot of$ with the 900 since it was supposed to satisfy the appettite for a modded Marshall and so many people were hacking Marshalls up back then. I think it alos was a big step down in build quality which probably helped add to the profit.

I do agree about the fidelity thing though I plan on having an affair with a hot German amp @ bonus time.

[MikeLivesley]

Thanks for listening everyone.

I don't hear bees myself and certainly not when playing it in a room. Bear in mind this audio has gone through compression to .avi and then .wmv before youtube's processing takes hold of it. The amp has a DSL green channel crunch mode flavour to it in the Clean Red and Crunch Green modes but I don't think that's altogether a bad thing. It doesn't sound anything like a TSL to my ears.

Apologies on the 1x10" cab for those that were offended by it. I recorded this upstairs in my house on a weekend and wanted to keep the noise down for the neighbours and also didn't feel like dragging a 2x12" or 4x12" up the steep stairs in my house. Maybe the next free weekend I get with the missus out shopping I'll remedy that.

Anyway thanks again for listening and the comments, it doesn't sound thin or buzzy to me though, but then again that's just my opinion.

[MikeLivesley]

Enjoyable. Entertaining as well. Good to see some one playing some chords and not just noodling all over the fretboard as well.

haha.. well I'm a sort of augmentative lead player in my band, primarily playing rhythm with the occasional lead section. I think chords really help you tell what the spectrum of the EQ sounds like rather than noodling.

nice job!

i just got home from checking out the jvm besides others (2266vm / 1959slp / orange ad30htc / vht deliverance / orange rocker combo / h&k trilogy...)
i found the jvm to be a very easy to play and dial in amp that sounds good on ALL volume levels and through most cabs. i really liked it! great versitality and tone for the price!

:dude

I like the AD30HTC very much also, the JVM is deceptively easy to use though, a lot of people seem put off by the number of knobs. it's amazing for the price what this amp can do.


Thanks for that Mike...great demo...should be very helpful for those giving the JVM a serious look...makes you wish everyone would do that with their amps.

Cheers! I'd love it if people were as nerdy as me. My take on it Gearwire with more fun, god knows those guys are morose!

Hmm, I didn't hear any bees in those clips, and I'm a pretty anti-bee sorta fellow. I find Mesa's usually have the most bee-to-tube ratio.

Ta! For me the Mesa sound just doesn't do it - never been a fan and never will be.

Good demos, dude! I like the text that you added to the video and the humor. I think I'll go check one of these out. Would love to hear it in person and through a 4x12 now that I've heard your demo. Thanks!

I agree. Sending that head into a 10" speaker doesn't help either.


Thanks. It does sound great through a larger cab. As I explained though, I couldn't be bothered and I think it still sounds better than a lot of amps would in that setup.

I tried one at the local store today, really liked the clean channel but couldnt crank it up much so asked if I could bring it home, I did, cranked it up and found that I can only use two channels, clean and crunch. The rest is too gainy for me. I can get the crunch sounds from my JCM 800 and guess I'll pick up a Vibrolux Reverb or something similar for cleans. It goes back to the store tomorrow.

I find that the Green modes in the OD1 and OD2 channels are perfectly useable if you're a low/mid gain player like myself - you just need to not be scared to pull the gain controls back.

[Unabender]

A Telecaster for high gain sounds. Yeah, that always works...

[MikeLivesley]

Um.

1) I don't play high gain sounds but I thought I'd throw some on the demo so it wouldn't be incomplete
2) I'm not going to buy another guitar for a style of music I don't play, I only have one electric guitar
3) It's a Telecaster deluxe and has humbuckers
4) Who says only certain types of guitars can be used for certain genres? Sounds close-minded to me
5) Do you get paid to just be a jerk or is it just for pleasure?

[Spectre]

Great demo mate.....thanks

[Unabender]

Um.

5) Do you get paid to just be a jerk or is it just for pleasure?

Well see I do this for free, and this IS a public forum. I guess there's some pleasure in it, as I would not post otherwise(?).

Anyway, I have never seen a metal band with Telecasters of any kind, Deluxe or not, on stage. Maybe it's a secret studio weapon...

For what it's worth, yes I like your review for most parts. Helluva lot better than most JVM demos on youtube.

[MikeLivesley]

Great demo mate.....thanks

Thanks :)

[BryanMatthews]

at jvm410.com there is a lot of duscussion about extreme noise on the OD settings, have you found this to be the case with yours ?

Bryan:AOK

[Janne.M]

Anyway, I have never seen a metal band with Telecasters of any kind, Deluxe or not, on stage. Maybe it's a secret studio weapon...

John 5, playing with Marilyn Manson and now with Rob Zombie, well known Telecaster slinger, Fender even does a John 5 signature Tele.

[BryanMatthews]

John 5, playing with Marilyn Manson and now with Rob Zombie, well known Telecaster slinger, Fender even does a John 5 signature Tele.


thats true, you ever see the headstock oh the john 5 sig tele...........oh dear .

Bryan

[MikeLivesley]

at jvm410.com there is a lot of duscussion about extreme noise on the OD settings, have you found this to be the case with yours ?

Bryan:AOK

Hi, yeah I post there, my name is "Mike" on that forum. I don't notice any problems at all with the amp noisewise. I use the Clean (Green/Orange), Crunch (Orange) and OD1 and OD2 Green modes and it's quiet as a mouse.

On OD1 and OD2 Orange and Red modes there is some increased background hiss at high gain levels but this is completely in line with the amount of signal gain you are applying to the guitar signal - nothing that would bother me and it's not a problem unless you're on top of the amp.

A noise gate would solve it even if it was an issue.

[MikeLivesley]

thats true, you ever see the headstock oh the john 5 sig tele...........oh dear .

Bryan

Yup, they really ballsed that up. Ugly.

I don't get why his signature guitars are so awful when you consider that he has a fine collection of stock 50s and 60s Teles.

[HeeHaw]

Thanks for listening everyone.

I don't hear bees myself and certainly not when playing it in a room. Bear in mind this audio has gone through compression to .avi and then .wmv before youtube's processing takes hold of it. The amp has a DSL green channel crunch mode flavour to it in the Clean Red and Crunch Green modes but I don't think that's altogether a bad thing. It doesn't sound anything like a TSL to my ears.

Apologies on the 1x10" cab for those that were offended by it. I recorded this upstairs in my house on a weekend and wanted to keep the noise down for the neighbours and also didn't feel like dragging a 2x12" or 4x12" up the steep stairs in my house. Maybe the next free weekend I get with the missus out shopping I'll remedy that.

Anyway thanks again for listening and the comments, it doesn't sound thin or buzzy to me though, but then again that's just my opinion.

The one I tried at the local music store sounded pretty buzzy to me.:AOK

[MikeLivesley]

Fair enough, anyone can dial an amp in to sound bad. :AOK

With my settings, for the sounds I want to get and to my ears it sounds great. And that's all that matters to me.

[gooma]

Thanks for takng the time to post that video Mike, good to see some humour in a review for a change too.

I must admit the JVM isnt for me but if your happy with it then thats all that matters mate:AOK

[HeeHaw]

Fair enough, anyone can dial an amp in to sound bad. :AOK

With my settings, for the sounds I want to get and to my ears it sounds great. And that's all that matters to me.

No problem. Marshall builds the JVM for those with lowered expectations.:D

[conundrum]

No problem. Marshall builds the JVM for those with lowered expectations.:D

What's your opinion of the Vintage Modern series?

[HeeHaw]

What's your opinion of the Vintage Modern series?

Not my thing either. In my opinion either 1973 or 1974 was about the last year a real Marshall was produced. I just dig the old JMP circuits. Maybe I'm eccentric, or just plain old and bitter. Call it whatever you like, but not one of them sound as fat as a JMP circuit cranked into a 4x12. Compared to that, anything from the DSL to current sounds buzzy and overcompressed.:messedup

[MikeLivesley]

No problem. Marshall builds the JVM for those with lowered expectations.:D

The end user being really pleased with the product and not caring what a bunch of people on an internet message board think is "lowered expectations"?

What a ridiculous thing to say. It's being open minded and using your own brain. Good luck spreading "they don't build them right anymore" hyperbole. I'm not listening to your tripe any longer.

[mike@nortoncable.com]

Dont forget the JMP evolved into the JCM800 2203-2004s :)

[AndrewSimon]

Nice demo.
I play this amp every time I go down to the local GC.
I really like the clean and crunch channels, I don't see my self ever playing the other 2, it's a cool amp at a reasonable price.
It really shines with LP's.

:cool:

[JamesHealey]

You're a funny guy! I enjoyed that video the amp left a lot to be desired though ;)

[conundrum]

Not my thing either. In my opinion either 1973 or 1974 was about the last year a real Marshall was produced. I just dig the old JMP circuits. Maybe I'm eccentric, or just plain old and bitter. Call it whatever you like, but not one of them sound as fat as a JMP circuit cranked into a 4x12. Compared to that, anything from the DSL to current sounds buzzy and overcompressed.:messedup

Well as long as you're consistant. I wanted to like the VM series better, but I found there were just a lot more bees in them than in the JVM. Like, I was almost going into anaphylactic shock.

[mrmojorisin]

I find these threads amusing. Anyone that thinks they can gauge an amp from clips shot with a videocam is, frankly, pretty er unsophisticated, lets say.

I have owned/own a number of old Marshalls, Blockheads, and a long list of others. The JVM is a VERY usable amp for me. There are LOTS of great tones in this amp, but you have to learn the amp out - there are so many options, its not for everyone - its not a plug in and play amp like a two knob tweed.

And speakers and tubes do make a huge difference (what a surprise, huh?). The stock tubes are crap. Try some quality glass. I put old Mullards in mine throughout. I bought the combo..comes with a V30 and Lead 80. Replaced with Heritage G12-65's.

I might be selling an amp or two in the near future but it will not be the JVM. Once you tweak it out and learn it out, its a great tool.

I am convinced there are a lot of folks in the world who DO NOT want to see Marshall produce a useable modern amp. Seems to be analogous to folks general resistance to change. There is a certain nostalgia and comfort to always living in the past.....as there is never anything to change.

[MikeLivesley]

I find these threads amusing. Anyone that thinks they can gauge an amp from clips shot with a videocam is, frankly, pretty er unsophisticated, lets say.

If you actually read my posts (or even the title) you'll realise that the amp sound is from the SM57 close mic'd on my small cabinet, not the video cam.

However there is still the video audio compression x2 and the youtube processing to contend with. Regardless I'm fairly happy with how it came out and the feedback has been overwhelmingly positive with the vast majority of people being really interested and kind about the clips I made.

Some people like to use any mention of a modern Marshall to harp on about 2204s and the like, I've played one non stop for a few months. Guess what? I prefer the JVM Crunch Orange sound.

Sorry purists!

[sethmeister]

Mike, I enjoyed your vids. Thanks for posting them!

I confess I'm a plexi snob but the JVM does look like it has some interesting possibilities.

[MikeLivesley]

Thanks Seth.

[mrmojorisin]

Mike,

Wasnt critizing your clips at all. Thank you for them. Rather I was expressing some disdain for the folks ragging on the JVM tone based on what they were hearing in the clips or walking into GC and playing one for a bit with stock tubes and who knows what for speakers.

Peace man...

[BSHARP]

I think Marshall has a couple of real winners with both the JVM and the VM. The old 4-hole NMV amps are fantastic, but hard to find a clean one at a decent price these days. The JVM amp covers a lot of ground without the need for pedals. The gain circuit doesn't need to be set as high as the DSL series. Too much gain and you will get noise, but this true of pedals too. The sound of these amps are pure Marshall. There is no need to tweek the knobs to find the sweet spot. All your tweeking can be done right at your guitar. A true joy to play.

[crabby]

i own the jvm,
i have recorded with the jvm
i love the jvm

i have owned a few different marshalls thru the years,
i love zakk wyldes tone,i love marshalls clean as well
jvm has a lot to offer,evh/zakk/slash/plexi/rock/metal/classic/country whatever.
its a brilliant design,it recorded very well,and live it cuts,i bought it to compliment my diezel herbert.
jvm all the way.

[Plexihacker]

Crabby, you are now voted out of the Elitist Amp Snob Country Club because you don't trash the JVM for having a PCB and it doesn't cost $1,000,000. Oh, and it has too many knobs, making it too confusing for all the professional bedroom players.

Just kidding...couldn't resist. LOL

[jayhawk]

No problem. Marshall builds the JVM for those with lowered expectations.:D

These days, I usually ignore these kinds of comments for the sake of keeping conflict off the forum but, in your case, I have to say that you're being a 5-star a--hole. You seem to think you're funny or adding some kind of insight with your insulting and obnoxious comments but you are mistaken. A forum member posts a useful and humorous demo of an amp and you're crapping on him. What exactly is wrong with you? How does your behavior benefit the forum or anyone reading it?

[HeeHaw]

These days, I usually ignore these kinds of comments for the sake of keeping conflict off the forum but, in your case, I have to say that you're being a 5-star a--hole. You seem to think you're funny or adding some kind of insight with your insulting and obnoxious comments but you are mistaken. A forum member posts a useful and humorous demo of an amp and you're crapping on him. What exactly is wrong with you? How does your behavior benefit the forum or anyone reading it?

Now if I didn't know any better, I'd think you are trying to make me feel bad about telling the truth about the JVM.

Clearly it isn't working man. You should try harder.:AOK

[MikeLivesley]

I think that pretty much says everything we need to know about this guy, doesn't it? I certainly won't be paying attention to anything he posts in the future.

[lv]

Nice clips, and you're a funny dude too!

I was surprised by how nice the clean tones are.

[MikeLivesley]

Thanks Lou, it's actually even more sparkly in person, I had my tele tone control down a little...

[nenad100janovic]

This is good, but too expensive for ordinary guy....

[MikeLivesley]

I don't understand what you mean? In England the amp is £750, that's only £200 more than your AC30, which has one channel.

It's also much cheaper than the other channel switchers from Mesa and the like.

[LaXu]

Nice demo, though I would never suggest YouTube as the place to post videos for any kind of sonic evaluation. Anyway I think you covered the amp quite well. Before I'd only heard the mega gain + lead wanking type clips. Tonewise the amp reminds me of the JCM2000 DSL head I had, the JVM seems to be essentially just an evolution of those by combining the DSL and TSL, throwing in a (supposedly, haven't tried 'em yet) better master volume and even more features.

The biggest problem I see with modern Marshalls aside from the not-exactly-top-grade construction is that the gainier channels are just WAY over the top. I could never bear turning the gain on the DSL "Ultra Gain" channel over 4 in either mode, it would just turn into a fizzy mess and the JVM seems to go even further from that.

I don't think modern Marshalls are (aside from the afore-mentioned construction) worse than old Marshalls, just different. Even Marshall needs to be aware of what kind of sounds the current generation of guitarists are after. Not everyone wants to sound like Hendrix or Page or <insert your favorite 60s/70s guitar hero>. For those who do, they offer all the reissues and for those who need something more modern sounding but still packing some of that classic Marshall vibe, they offer the more elaborate JCM2000s and now the JVM.

IMO the JVM isn't too expensive, at least by European standards. At roughly 1500€ for the head it's still about 1000€ cheaper than a Dual Recto for example, actually cheaper than a Peavey JSX, about as much as an ENGL Powerball but only a few hundred euros cheaper than a Diezel Einstein head. Prices based on Thomann, I'm sure you can find some of the amps a bit cheaper in other stores and it seems that in the UK the JVM is quite a bit cheaper too!

[MikeLivesley]

I definitely wouldn't argue with the fact that the OD1 and OD2 Red modes are very gainy.

I use only use the low/mid gain sounds so it doesn't bother me at all. It's superior to the DSL Ultra channel though in many ways.

[Plexihacker]

Yes, thanks for the video, Mike! It does a much better job of showing the versatility of the amp.

The output section of the JVM is based upon the JCM800, unlike the DSL/TSL amps. There are so many features in the JVM that go beyond anything else Marshall ever produced. And just because there is a LOT of gain available doesn't mean you actually have to turn the gain dial to "10". LOL

The tone knobs are also much better and you can start with all knobs at 12:00 and have a good base tone. The JVM is obviously created with a gigging musician in mind - not the bedroom player. It's as if they got a roundtable focus group of guitarists together and discussed everything that was lacking in all the other amps available on the market, as well is offered by the other high-end amp manufacturers. Then they started from scratch except for the JCM800's power section and built what I consider to be a brilliant amp. They also considered construction design and went with a heavy PCB and very clean (for a multi-channel amp) layout. Compare a gut shot of the JVM to any other multi-channel amp on the market and you will likely be impressed. I find it humorous when reading some of the internet ex-spurts bagging on the design of the JVM and then turn around and praise the 5150III, which is obviously (to me) built with a lower quality layout and construction. Also, take a look inside an Ecstacy, Powerball, or any other currently "in-vogue" amp and compare to the neatness and quality of the JVM build.

[The Pup]

Great clips of a great amp. Thanks again!

...there should be a 6-star rating for some reprobates.

[HeeHaw]

Let me tell you boys this. I went back to the store and played both the JVM and the VM today because I wanted to be sure that I wasn't giving them an unfair evaluation.

My review still stands. The JVM is overcompressed and buzzy, while the VM is farty sounding. I'm sure Marshall has scored a hit with the bedroom jamming crowd. If you enjoy them, then so be it.:BEER

[mmorse]

Well Heehaw, I see you've been winning a lot of friends on this thread. :) I can't for the life of me figure out why the JVM has sparked so much animosity on both sides of the aisle so to speak. It's just an amp! When it first came out it seemed you were an inept, deaf, fool if you didn't think it was the "second coming" and now you're a complete boob if you do think it's a great amp.

We all hear a certain tone in our heads and we tend to judge amps based on that singular "ideal". For most of us, that tonal ideal is formed by the music and equipment that prevailed when we first got into music. For old farts like me, it was rock from the late 60's and early 70s and a LP through a cranked plexi or superlead. To younger guys, it may be a much higher gain, modern type tone.

I wanted very much to like the JVM. I was hoping it would be everything I needed for both my LP and Strat all wrapped up in one nice package. No more lugging around and caring for 2 amps. No pedals to mess with. I couldn't wait to try one. But when I did, I heard the same things HeeHaw did. No matter how much knob turning I did, I couldn't bond with it. I just couldn't hear that ideal tone that is floating in my head. The cleans were nice enough for me but the crunch and gain I grew up with was just not there. For me it's not just the JVM. I had similar experiences with DSLs, TSLs, H&K switchblade, practically every Mesa and many other modern high gain amps. Just not my kind of overdriven tone.

For me the JVM went from too little gain to too much with the slightest turn of the gain knob. There was no happy medium. Does that make the JVM a bad amp? Of course not. Just not the amp for me. Does that make me tonally challenged? I would hope not. Just like it doesn't for people who like the amp.

I also tried the VM, and while I like that amp much more than the JVM, I would not take it over either of the Marshalls I presently own. And as far as how they are built, I don't give a tinker's damn about that. If I can get my tone out of it, I could care less what sits inside of it.

Anyway, just thought I would throw my .02 in. Now back to the regularly scheduled slamfest.

[The Pup]

For me the JVM went from too little gain to too much with the slightest turn of the gain knob. There was no happy medium.

You may need to explore the Clean and Crunch channels which I found did not respond as you have stated above.

I found that the JVM and the 1960BHW Heritage G12H-30 was the best match-up for me. The 1960B and 1960BV cabs did not sound good unless cranked up. However, the Heritage G12H30 speakers retain a smooth and creamy texture even at low-to-moderate volumes.

I also found my "jazz" guitar likes the Clean/Green channel better than my other "jazz" standby amps (Bruno U30, Tone King Meteor II, '64 BFSR and '64 VV). I'd say it cleans up very well.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/RCA6L6GC/IMG_1351c.jpg

[Lution]

you are a funny guy!

thanks for the clips.

[MikeLivesley]

Let me tell you boys this. I went back to the store and played both the JVM and the VM today because I wanted to be sure that I wasn't giving them an unfair evaluation.

My review still stands. The JVM is overcompressed and buzzy, while the VM is farty sounding. I'm sure Marshall has scored a hit with the bedroom jamming crowd. If you enjoy them, then so be it.:BEER

Who's a bedroom jammer? Not me. I play my Tiny Terror at home.

I play out at least twice a month and rehearse at volume twice a week with the JVM.
If you're going to debase yourself to that level at least get it right.

[MichaelX]

I'm looking for an amp and have been considering the JVM so I'm watching this thread. Thanks Mike for the vid.

You guys might want to make use of the ignore function. It's pretty handy in times like these.

[carlygtr56]

I had the JVM.
Here's what I didn't like about it.
The clean channel had a reversed tone stack. so the dead clean was nice....the 2 OD modes didn't sound like any Marshall I ever heard.

The Crunch channel didn't have enough gain.
The OD1 and OD2 channels were thin. If you put the gain below a certain point it got very bright and even thinner. Beyond a certain point..too much gain. No happy medium, IMO.

I got the VM as well and I liked this head better, still, I don't think it's a good design. The Detail and Body controls were a mistake IMO. to have two controls that control tone as well as gain, IMO is not good.
If you set them a certain way for tone, you may not get the gain you want and visa-versa.
It is also sensitive to what pedals you use to OD the gain channel. It can quickly turn to mush.
This VM like clean boosts, IMO.
Also, somebody else mentioned it and I agree. These new Marshalls, including the DSL, TSL have a hollow sound with single coils.

I got the two VM cabs which I think are excellent, but as soon as I get my Reinhardt Vintage-100, this VM is history.

For me, I like a NMV amp and pedal.

[MikeLivesley]

I'm looking for an amp and have been considering the JVM so I'm watching this thread. Thanks Mike for the vid.

You guys might want to make use of the ignore function. It's pretty handy in times like these.
I didn't realise the forum had one, I'll get on that.

Carly - I don't find the crunch channel lacks in gain at all. When you get the master up past three everything sounds a lot fuller on that channel.

As for thinness - I don't have a problem, I set my OD1 and OD2 gains at 12-1 o clock and there is plenty of bass. I use the Green modes.

[CocoTone]

I'm looking for an amp and have been considering the JVM so I'm watching this thread. Thanks Mike for the vid.

You guys might want to make use of the ignore function. It's pretty handy in times like these.


Anyone that needs to use the ignore function needs therapy. I like to think that most here can engage in conversation without having to "hide". Out of sight out of mind is childish.
If you are gonna give critcism, you got to be able to take some too.

CT.

[CocoTone]

I had the JVM.
Here's what I didn't like about it.
The clean channel had a reversed tone stack. so the dead clean was nice....the 2 OD modes didn't sound like any Marshall I ever heard.

The Crunch channel didn't have enough gain.
The OD1 and OD2 channels were thin. If you put the gain below a certain point it got very bright and even thinner. Beyond a certain point..too much gain. No happy medium, IMO.

I got the VM as well and I liked this head better, still, I don't think it's a good design. The Detail and Body controls were a mistake IMO. to have two controls that control tone as well as gain, IMO is not good.
If you set them a certain way for tone, you may not get the gain you want and visa-versa.
It is also sensitive to what pedals you use to OD the gain channel. It can quickly turn to mush.
This VM like clean boosts, IMO.
Also, somebody else mentioned it and I agree. These new Marshalls, including the DSL, TSL have a hollow sound with single coils.

I got the two VM cabs which I think are excellent, but as soon as I get my Reinhardt Vintage-100, this VM is history.

For me, I like a NMV amp and pedal.

Wow thats an about face. I thought you were high on the amp??:jo

CT.

[John Hurtt]

Wow thats an about face. I thought you were high on the amp??:jo

CT.


:crazy He was, and several people got beat up disagreeing with him that it was the ultimate Marshall...

Pretty funny, actually....:messedup

[MikeLivesley]

I thought it was the same guy...

I don't hold any creedence in what he says then. In the same way it was the best thing ever when he owned the amp I'm inclined to think he's knocking it down now that he's sold it and moved on.

I bought my amp to play out and keep.

[carlygtr56]

Wow thats an about face. I thought you were high on the amp??:jo

CT.


I bought it, I used it, I liked it. Like any amp, over time, the things you don't like about it show up.
I had the advantage of having it next to a VM, and I prefered the VM for what i like to hear.
That said, I'm finding things about the VM I don't like either.
for me and what I like, there is still nothing like a 100 watt NMV amp, which is why I'm going back to one.

[carlygtr56]

I thought it was the same guy...

I don't hold any creedence in what he says then. In the same way it was the best thing ever when he owned the amp I'm inclined to think he's knocking it down now that he's sold it and moved on.

I bought my amp to play out and keep.


I didn't knock it down. I pointed out why over time it wasn't the amp for me.
I never said it was the best thing ever either.:rotflmao

[Echoes]

I bought it, I used it, I liked it. Like any amp, over time, the things you don't like about it show up.
I had the advantage of having it next to a VM, and I prefered the VM for what i like to hear.
That said, I'm finding things about the VM I don't like either.
for me and what I like, there is still nothing like a 100 watt NMV amp, which is why I'm going back to one.

the grass is always greener eh Carl? hahaha, if only we can have *ALL* of the amps we have ever played in one room and a few weeks to compare all of em, then maybe....just maybe we would....er, naw... nevermind, we would still go a 'amp whoring' !:jo it's all about the elusive chase!:BEER

[carlygtr56]

:crazy He was, and several people got beat up disagreeing with him that it was the ultimate Marshall...

Pretty funny, actually....:messedup


Actually, my clips showcased that amp quite well.:rolleyes:

[mrmojorisin]

...there is still nothing like a 100 watt NMV amp, which is why I'm going back to one.

I think the operative words here are "going back".

As in had, sold, now buying again.

Will be interesting to see if a JVM enters back into your world in the future.

Maybe we should start a pool?

[Iceman8.6]

I think the JVM causes more arguements than any other amp....

[The Pup]

Quite poralizing indeed.

...and none of the polarizing opinions mean anything in the big scheme of things.

I suppose in the end it is better to like something than not (as long as the "golden-rule" is not broken).

I empathize with those who cannot achieve a desirable tone from the gear they plug into.

[jhale]

I love my VM combo.It gets two great sounds and its convenient.I also love my 66 plexi superbass.