Eventide Timefactor Round II

[The Pup]

I just ordered another Eventide Timefactor again...I'm hoping for a low noise variant; because it was a great delay pedal.

Hoping for the best!

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[enocaster]

Stop posting pictures of this thing! Are you trying to drain my bank account or something?

[The Pup]

Sorry mate.

[OOG]

so this will be your third?

[The Pup]

so this will be your third?

Second.

[BTBAM]

where from? I'm wanting another one too.

[The Pup]

where from? I'm wanting another one too.

From a friend inside the gates....

[BTBAM]

From a friend inside the gates....


dang.

[GtrWiz]

I just got one 2 days ago, no noise problems! Best delay I've ever used.

Now I'm really gassing for a ModFactor...

[jelyfinger]

I just got one 2 days ago, no noise problems! Best delay I've ever used.

Now I'm really gassing for a ModFactor...

Me too my man! I want the Modfactor in a bad way. I know it will be stellar. Not going to hit stores until 1st week in Dec.

[slopeshoulder]

I'm #10 in line at sweetwater for a mod factor.
I so rule.

[lv]

I think I may try another one as well now that they have added the shielding.

[Boogie92801]

is there a new shoot out with this and the T.C. Nova?

[BTBAM]

I currently have one on my board, and I haven't noticed any problems. I got it pretty early on too. What exactly is wrong and what shielding have they done?

[lv]

I currently have one on my board, and I haven't noticed any problems. I got it pretty early on too. What exactly is wrong and what shielding have they done?

Some people had some static sounding noise issues. My noise issues went away if I ran a buffer before the TF, but I don't always use a buffered pedal so I ended up sending the TF back. If you aren't having problems, nothing to worry about. Seemed to only effect certain rigs.

[the_Chris]

I'm eagerly awaiting reviews of the new revisions. This looks like the end-all delay pedal so hopefully it fixes a few issues customers found with the initial run.

[freak4liferu]

Any Timefactor owners, does this nail dotted 1/8th stuff and how hard is that to dile in? Also, can you use the midi-clock and have it set at .1/8th and it automatically be right on for your. i. e., if you use alot of click tracks and/or loops live??? Really wanting one of these pedals, but just need to know this info before the drop in cash...

[Angle Loss]

I don't know about the midi stuff, but the dotted eigths are easy. In fact you can do dual delays synched with the tap-tempo at different intervals (dotted eighths and quarters etc). The best thing for you to do is download the manual, as it is pretty large and can help you figure out all that it is capable of. I highly suggest this pedal to anyone who really wants a delay they can tweak.

On a side note, I just made a pretty cool flanging patch on it. Kind of makes me excited to hear the modfactor.

[jamison162]

is there a new shoot out with this and the T.C. Nova?

Not needed. The TimeFactor is from another planet far, far away. But seriously, I did my own shootout with the Nova and my DD-20, and my DD-20 won, seriously.

[lukeII]

There is a review of the timefactor in the Guitar Player with Brad Paisley on the cover, it got a pick award. Review does not mention any noise issues with the pedal and only negative points are the wall mart and not being able to name the patches. Aside from that seems outstanding.

I am waiting for them to come into dealers in France because ordering one from the states (unless you have a us credit card and adress) and then getting the correct wall mart shipped is just way too complicated.

[opultam]

I'm really torn with this thing. When the EHX HOG came out, I had read the manual before hand, tried it out, done all the essentials to know that I wanted it bad. So I bought it, with the additional footwitch, for close to $700. Now, not too long after, you can get it all for about $500 (maybe a little more).

Now it's the TF. I have read almost the entire Timefactor manual, read every review, and I am 100% sure I want this on my board. I just don;t want to rush into this initial round of buying it, and then they drop the price a bunch next year.

That said, do you think Eventide would work this way? If they're ever actually at a point where their supply is meeting demand on this pedal, do you think they'll drop the price?

I can wait to buy it, but I'd rather not

[BTBAM]

I don't know if they will drop a big price next year, when every place selling them right now is on backorder.

[BTBAM]

It's every bit of worth 400 bucks. I have two of them, and I can't get enough of this pedal. I don't want to get rid of other delays on my board because I love what each one has to offer, but if I had too, this pedal could get rid of the other 7 on my board easily.

[noyank11]

I'm really torn with this thing. When the EHX HOG came out, I had read the manual before hand, tried it out, done all the essentials to know that I wanted it bad. So I bought it, with the additional footwitch, for close to $700. Now, not too long after, you can get it all for about $500 (maybe a little more).

Now it's the TF. I have read almost the entire Timefactor manual, read every review, and I am 100% sure I want this on my board. I just don;t want to rush into this initial round of buying it, and then they drop the price a bunch next year.

That said, do you think Eventide would work this way? If they're ever actually at a point where their supply is meeting demand on this pedal, do you think they'll drop the price?
I can wait to buy it, but I'd rather notTimeFactors are in stock again @ $350.that seems to be the current street price-Google will find that price for you

[GtrWiz]

TimeFactors are in stock again @ $350.that seems to be the current street price-Google will find that price for you


where? I haven't seen anyone that has them in stock, or for less than $399.

I already have one, but always looking for places with good prices...

[noyank11]

where? I haven't seen anyone that has them in stock, or for less than $399.

I already have one, but always looking for places with good prices...
email www.rmcaudio.com for quote..Most dealers will price match

[comebacktomorro]

timefactors are back in stock at musictoyz horray. hopefully this means the few of us waiting on ours will get them soon! (though i find it worrying to see that my order is still on back order)

[rreiser]

You will hear a background static that would never be heard while your playing. I noticed it when I was trying to lower the overall noise level from my pedalboard when I had the guitar turned to zero. If you unplug the Timefactor you will hear this static gurgle go away. It is nothing that would be noticed while you play but I like to have my rig as quiet as possible. I sent it in and they returned it with the shield. The noise is gone.

[aaland_brian]

musictoyz has 9 left, I bought an extra one from them in case the shipment to musiciansfriend doesn't have enough to fill all the backorders as they always seem to disappoint me. Other places have them backordered till mid January.

[opultam]

It's every bit of worth 400 bucks. I have two of them, and I can't get enough of this pedal. I don't want to get rid of other delays on my board because I love what each one has to offer, but if I had too, this pedal could get rid of the other 7 on my board easily.

Wait a minute...what would you need TWO of these for? Not enough presets?

[BTBAM]

Wait a minute...what would you need TWO of these for? Not enough presets?

two different boards.

[opultam]

two different boards.


:drool

[JoshuaLogan]

musictoyz won't pricematch..... lame...... looks I have to keep waiting on rmcaudio to get a good price. I really wish eventide would just hurry up and fill their orders. all these delays and waiting are annoying.

[ericb]

musictoyz won't pricematch..... lame...... looks I have to keep waiting on rmcaudio to get a good price. I really wish eventide would just hurry up and fill their orders. all these delays and waiting are annoying.

It IS a 'delay' pedal ya know.... ok , bad joke. .
Eric:rotflmao

[Angle Loss]

It IS a 'delay' pedal ya know.... ok , bad joke. .
Eric:rotflmao

Well, I've got an early one with dual 3 second delays. This new batch must be upgraded to dual 3 month delays...:D

[teefus]

i bought one in the first go around from pedalgeek in july(?). i didn't have any noise issues but from what i understand you can send a noisy unit back to eventide for free repair.

[Fixxxer]

From what I am gathering on these threads and lv's demo's are the following:

1. this delay will be the best in the market
2. It will be adble to grow with your rig
3. Eventide is a stand up company since they are willing to address the faulty units
4. do not buy used unless you can confirm the batch is from the revised!

Thanks for the help, I can't wait to hear it in person

[JoshuaLogan]

yay. RMC Audio shipped mine out yesterday. It's in Orlando an hour and a half away right now. I should get it tomorrow! :D

[2muchstuff]

How much larger are they than a dd20?

[flicker180]

From what I am gathering on these threads and lv's demo's are the following:

1. this delay will be the best in the market
2. It will be adble to grow with your rig
3. Eventide is a stand up company since they are willing to address the faulty units
4. do not buy used unless you can confirm the batch is from the revised!

Thanks for the help, I can't wait to hear it in person

i'd contend that point #1 isn't ENTIRELY accurate. depends on your mojo, i guess...but my soon-to-be-coming-after-almost-2.5-years Echoczar is easily a "better" analog delay. :)

dave

[e-z]

...but my soon-to-be-coming-after-almost-2.5-years Echoczar is easily a "better" analog delay. :)

dave

Hijack. Did you get an email saying your Echoczar is ready?

[flicker180]

i'm #7 out of the next 10 going out.

probably will be january at the earliest. :)

dave

[freak4liferu]

honestly though, i don't think your going to hear a $400 difference in tone are you? Also about 90% of your listerners sure aren't gonna notice. I think for the price and functionality, Timefactor can be labled as one of the best digital delay pedals. If your just into analog though, I agree, Echozar is very cool, but wow, that's freakin rent for a pedal, oh well, I'll probably skip rent and buy one someday.

[Boogie92801]

I played a zar and it was great sounding and all (the memory lane sounds as good but does not have as much delay time not the cool ramp), but for the money I would buy and TF and a MF and be way happy.

[lv]

From what I am gathering on these threads and lv's demo's are the following:

1. this delay will be the best in the market
2. It will be adble to grow with your rig
3. Eventide is a stand up company since they are willing to address the faulty units
4. do not buy used unless you can confirm the batch is from the revised!

Thanks for the help, I can't wait to hear it in person

I don't know about best - it definitely has its own 'sound' vs the Nova which is a bit more neutral sounding. As far as pedal based digital delays, imo the only unit that might sound better(more fidelity, dead quiet) would be the Cornish TES which isn't going to have the level of versatility.

If you have a buffer in your rig, getting a new unit with the shielding may not be any quieter than the old ones without the shielding. In fact, if you always run a buffer at the beginning of your chain, you might be able to save a little $ on a used one without the sheilding as I'm sure most people will want the newer ones.

[donbarzini]

Eventide is such a customer service oriented company IMO, even if you purchased a used one without the shielding, I'm sure the would fix it for free. I went ahead and had mine updated even though I rarely use it in front of my amps, it never exhibited the said noise in the effects loop.

[jamison162]

How much larger are they than a dd20?

The total square footage (inchage) is smaller last time I checked. They look bigger because they are slighty longer.

DD-20: 7-1/16" x 6-1/4"
TF: 4.8" x 7.5"

[GtrWiz]

honestly though, i don't think your going to hear a $400 difference in tone are you?

I sure do, it's worth every penny!

[pear gage]

I notice that the timefactor qualifies for the instant $50 dollars off at music123 so it's $350 delivered. The nova delay and reverb are $200 if you buy something else for a buck to go over $250.

[comebacktomorro]

To those who purchased from this latest batch from music toys, what is the status of your order? They're all gone now and my order is still on 'item backordered'.

I've tried several times to get in contact with musictoyz and I'm gonna be pretty unhappy if my order isnt fulfilled out of this latest batch. I mean seriously, you "order now" to "reserve your place in the queue" and yes.. So much for that.

At the very least I am unhappy with the communication and wish that musictoys could take a leaf out of eventide's book and become a more customer service orientated company, like many of the other wonderful pedal manufactures out there.

[aaland_brian]

Mine shipped out yesterday from both musictoyz and from musiciansfriend. I'm going to open up whichever one gets here first to keep and the second is going up on ebay.

[The Pup]

Sorry for not reporting earlier.

Lou...they fixed the noise!

I sent my first Eventide Timefactor delay back to the factory because of noise issues; it was S/N 118 and I received it the first week it was offered to the public. Since that time, Eventide has addressed the noise issues by adding shielding (to the power supply and input/output area I believe). My new Timefactor (S/N 746) is quiet and transparent.

To evaluate new pedals, sometimes I like to have them at arm's reach to tweak the knobs. As you can see by the photos below, I found some "L" brackets, added some Velcro padding and fashioned a sort of hanger that works for both hand and floor use.

It's a good delay...no worries here.

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[KagakuNinja]

Last week, they tried to charge against my credit card. However, the card had a hold on it due to suspected fraud, and I forgot that I had this outstanding order against it.

I found out about this via an email from musictoyz. I cleared the hold on the card, and toyz has not replied to any of my emails yet.

I suspect that the *%^#ers shipped my unit to someone else, and if so I will be extremely pissed. If they can't even wait a day to clear up a problem with 3 (!!!) month old payment info, then I will be sending future business elsewhere.

Meanwhile, if anyone knows a site that has units, let me know. I didn't want to order from analog haven since I would get dinged with tax...

To those who purchased from this latest batch from music toys, what is the status of your order? They're all gone now and my order is still on 'item backordered'.

I've tried several times to get in contact with musictoyz and I'm gonna be pretty unhappy if my order isnt fulfilled out of this latest batch. I mean seriously, you "order now" to "reserve your place in the queue" and yes.. So much for that.

At the very least I am unhappy with the communication and wish that musictoys could take a leaf out of eventide's book and become a more customer service orientated company, like many of the other wonderful pedal manufactures out there.

[lv]

Sorry for not reporting earlier.

Lou...they fixed the noise!




Glad to hear it - looking forward to checking out another one soon.

[The Pup]

BTW...where is the TF's on off switch?

[VoodooBlues]

So, how does the tape echo sound on this?

[The Pup]

It's ok. In an intimate recording session...it's not a substitute. But, when playing live or with other instruments...it will do just fine.

Personally, it's good enough for me (good enough where I don't need to bring out my tape delays). If you need a classic tape delay's per-amp grind...you may not be totally satisfied.

All in all...this is a very good sounding delay, including its tape echo emulation.

[VoodooBlues]

It's ok. In an intimate recording session...it's not a substitute. But, when playing live or with other instruments...it will do just fine.

Personally, it's good enough for me (good enough where I don't need to bring out my tape delays). If you need a classic tape delay's per-amp grind...you may not be totally satisfied.

All in all...this is a very good sounding delay, including its tape echo emulation.

Cool! Thanks for the info.

[aaland_brian]

Meanwhile, if anyone knows a site that has units, let me know. I didn't want to order from analog haven since I would get dinged with tax...

If you don't mind a used one, there is one going for $385 buy it now on the bay. I have a feeling once the ones that are currently selling on ebay are gone the prices will go up until christmas. I've had my TF for about 4 days and I think it's the best $400 I've spent in a long time.

[starfish]

Sorry for not reporting earlier.

Lou...they fixed the noise!

Since that time, Eventide has addressed the noise issues by adding shielding (to the power supply and input/output area I believe).

Noise is definitely fixed and you can run it directly into an amp without a buffer and it is dead quiet. The fix consisted of a 3.5 x 7 EMI shielding. Think of it like the shielding in a guitar cavity.

I still can't believe how great this delay sounds. I mentioned in another thread that I have such a hard time moving away from the stock "digital delay" preset. All I need to do is tap BPM and it gets me everything from Gilmour to The Cure.

[The Pup]

Noise is definitely fixed and you can run it directly into an amp without a buffer and it is dead quiet. The fix consisted of a 3.5 x 7 EMI shielding. Think of it like the shielding in a guitar cavity.

I still can't believe how great this delay sounds. I mentioned in another thread that I have such a hard time moving away from the stock "digital delay" preset. All I need to do is tap BPM and it gets me everything from Gilmour to The Cure.Cool.

Post your favorite settings!

[starfish]

For the standard "digital delay" preset, I set the left subdivision to dotted 1/4 and the right to dotted 1/8 and tap BPM to suit. The feedback is around 64% and the wet level is around 42%.

This patch alone covers a ton of territory. Drop the dotted subdivisions and try 1/4 and 1/2. Cool delay beats. Try a good wah and an Eternity in front. Woah!

[KagakuNinja]

Well musictoyz just shipped my Timefactor. I don't know if all is forgiven, they have still not replied to any of my emails, customer support is not their strong suit.

I don't know if they have a new shipment, or if they held one for me...

Of course, I went and ordered another one from Musicians Friend, fortunately I was able to cancel the order.

Last week, they tried to charge against my credit card. However, the card had a hold on it due to suspected fraud, and I forgot that I had this outstanding order against it.

I found out about this via an email from musictoyz. I cleared the hold on the card, and toyz has not replied to any of my emails yet.

I suspect that the *%^#ers shipped my unit to someone else, and if so I will be extremely pissed. If they can't even wait a day to clear up a problem with 3 (!!!) month old payment info, then I will be sending future business elsewhere.

Meanwhile, if anyone knows a site that has units, let me know. I didn't want to order from analog haven since I would get dinged with tax...

[Smokehouse]

Just got notified that mine is on the way to me from Sweetwater. Can't wait to try this thing :D

Smoke'

[lifeinsong]

I emailed them last Wednesday about getting my TF shielded, received a return email back from them within a few hours. I shipped it out to them on Thursday morning and I already got it back today, Wednesday Dec 5th. Now that's some serious customer service...mad props to D. Rooney and Eventide!!!

[Mastervolume]

Well musictoyz just shipped my Timefactor. I don't know if all is forgiven, they have still not replied to any of my emails, customer support is not their strong suit.




when did they start offering customer support?

[placebo62]

I found a really cool setting on the reverse delay where it makes these really cool bleeps and bloops sounds. Like a bubbling ring tone sort of sounds. anyone else get this?

[Jazzgear]

I just ordered mine from Musician's Friend -- in stock and shipping tomorrow...and was able to transfer a 20% off coupon I had on another order that had been back ordered for 3 weeks....Cancelled that one and ordered the TF....$320 shipped.:AOK

[nibus]

I just ordered one from MF too - glad to hear they are finally in stock again! I got mine 15% off with the whole "inside" sale promotion last week.

[comebacktomorro]

Mine is finally on the way with the second new batch from musictoyz thankgoodness.. tried every form of contact and nothing.

Hopefully I'll will arrive tomorrow as my order info has disappeared from musictoyz.. Fingers crossed!

So moral of the story.. Don't order pedals from toyz that are out of stock!

Happpy :)

[lukeII]

Got mine yesterday. Great pedal although takes some time getting used to it and finding some musical sounds. I love the digital, tape, vintage and mod delays (just phenominal souding organic delays) the vintage is perfect for old Pink Floyd.

I do have a couple of peaves though :
1) Why is it that on both the TC and Eventide units the mix knobs are not that gradual and you go from dry to real wet delay really fast at the begining of the dial. You don't get this on other stomp box delays like Boss or Maxon and it kind of pointless because for over half the dial the signal is too wet to use for other things than special fx. My interim solution is to turn off delay B and use the A/B mix with more of mix to b so as to get a dryer signal.

2) On the Vintage delay you get a lot of added white noise from about 14 bits down. They should deal with it cos from 12 bits down you can't really use the delay in a musical context.

3) I found that the Timefactor when active is boosting the volume just a bit (I use guitar in and amp out levels as I play into the front end of my amp). I've searched the manual but haven't found a way to regulate the output (I fiddled with the line level but to no avail).

[bobe]

1) Why is it that on both the TC and Eventide units the mix knobs are not that gradual and you go from dry to real wet delay really fast at the begining of the dial. You don't get this on other stomp box delays like Boss or Maxon and it kind of pointless because for over half the dial the signal is too wet to use for other things than special fx. My interim solution is to turn off delay B and use the A/B mix with more of mix to b so as to get a dryer signal.

2) On the Vintage delay you get a lot of added white noise from about 14 bits down. They should deal with it cos from 12 bits down you can't really use the delay in a musical context.


In the manual there are instructions about ways to set the response of the knobs. You go into System/Menu Mode to select this option. Forgive me, but I can't remember exactly what the feature is called at this moment. I have done that and it eliminates the issue you are referring to in #1.

#2. Those delays have adjustable "bit" settings so you control how "old" or new they sound which I find also affects volume and treble range.

Bob E.from CT

[Andre357]

Brilliant delay. I'm loving mine to know end. If you do not have an expression pedal, get one !! It adds so much to the usefulness of the unit. It's takes a bit to get a handle on programming certain parameters to the pedal, but I have it down to a science now !

I'm also using an external footswitch( digitech FX300 )...that makes the pedal easier to use as well (easier and more effecient to switch banks for example )

I 'm sure we'll be hearing some of the unique sounds out of this on a hit record soon....It's an inspiring,forward looking delay for sure...

[lukeII]

Bobe thanks for the tips will try to sort it out.

[bobe]

I think the feature name I was trying to remember is Catch-up. If activated, any turned knob will not react immediately. Rather, the display shows the current setting value. You must turn the knob beyond the value to unfreeze the knob and actually make a change.

I like it because it mostly eliminated the sudden, shocking, squeeling changes you mentioned and because I can see the value before changing it. Helps me make decisions about what change I want to make and WTF these values mean sonically.

Lastly, since I can see the value first, I can always reset as it was and try the next knob until I figure out how everything interacts.

By tomorrow you'll be helping me understand this unit...

Bob E.

[g-nem]

Got mine yesterday. Great pedal although takes some time getting used to it and finding some musical sounds. I love the digital, tape, vintage and mod delays (just phenominal souding organic delays) the vintage is perfect for old Pink Floyd.

I do have a couple of peaves though :
1) Why is it that on both the TC and Eventide units the mix knobs are not that gradual and you go from dry to real wet delay really fast at the begining of the dial. You don't get this on other stomp box delays like Boss or Maxon and it kind of pointless because for over half the dial the signal is too wet to use for other things than special fx. My interim solution is to turn off delay B and use the A/B mix with more of mix to b so as to get a dryer signal.

This is a real drag- I wish more pedals would take a cue from the DD20 and have the dry signal fixed, and have an fx level knob rather than a mix knob.

As far as the noise when reducing the bit depth, the number of bits in a digital convertor is equivalent to dynamic range- so by reducing the number of bits, you reduce the volume range between max volume and the noise floor. Thus you increase the volume of the noise floor by reducing the bit depth. I haven't played with a TF so I don't know exactly what you are experiencin, but if you mess with any bit reduction plugin or effect you will see what I mean.

[The Pup]

This is a real drag- I wish more pedals would take a cue from the DD20 and have the dry signal fixed, and have an fx level knob rather than a mix knob.

The TF can be set to do this too (if I understand you correctly).

RTFM

[BTBAM]

here's a little video I made with the looper and messing with the start/stop times.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPaXtr36Ig8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPaXtr36Ig8)

[lxm]

The TF can be set to do this too (if I understand you correctly).

RTFM


how? is it possible? i liked that about the dd-20 as well.

[Teahead]

here's a little video I made with the looper and messing with the start/stop times.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPaXtr36Ig8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPaXtr36Ig8)

Very cool, the damn gas continues to build. :BEER

[themusicboxstudios]

alright ... i'm gonna buy another one.

where's the quickest/cheapest place to get it?

[The Pup]

how? is it possible? i liked that about the dd-20 as well.

Is this what you're talking about:

Killdry – Send/Return Loop

If you’ve connected your TimeFactor using an effect end/return loop (either your amp’s or a mixer’s), TimeFactor’s Killdry feature can be enabled. With Killdry enabled, the Mix Control works as a Master Effects Level Control.

When Killdry is enabled, the Mix Control does not send any dry signal to the outputs; only the Effect. The Mix Control simply adjusts the Effect level. Note that when Killdry is enabled,

Bypassing will mute the Effect rather than Bypass it. Killdry’s factory default is disabled. It can be enabled in the [BYPASS] menu of the System Mode.

Here’s how:

1) Press and hold the Encoder and Right Footswitch imultaneously for a few seconds to enter System Mode. Release the Encoder.

2) Turn the Encoder until [BYPASS] is displayed.

3) Momentarily press the Encoder.

4) Turn the Encoder until [KILLDRY] is displayed.

5) Momentarily press the Encoder.

6) Turn the Encoder to select either [YES] or [NO].

7) Press and hold the Encoder and Right Footswitch simultaneously for a few seconds to exit System Mode.

RTFM: http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pdf/man/m_150251.pdf

[lxm]

alright ... i'm gonna buy another one.

where's the quickest/cheapest place to get it?

i just got one :) they are that good huh!!!!? 40 presets :BEER

[lxm]

just wanted to know people opinions of the TF in front of the amp. how does it respond?

werd.

[g-nem]

Is this what you're talking about:

Killdry – Send/Return Loop

If you’ve connected your TimeFactor using an effect end/return loop (either your amp’s or a mixer’s), TimeFactor’s Killdry feature can be enabled. With Killdry enabled, the Mix Control works as a Master Effects Level Control.

When Killdry is enabled, the Mix Control does not send any dry signal to the outputs; only the Effect. The Mix Control simply adjusts the Effect level. Note that when Killdry is enabled,

Bypassing will mute the Effect rather than Bypass it. Killdry’s factory default is disabled. It can be enabled in the [BYPASS] menu of the System Mode.

Here’s how:

1) Press and hold the Encoder and Right Footswitch imultaneously for a few seconds to enter System Mode. Release the Encoder.

2) Turn the Encoder until [BYPASS] is displayed.

3) Momentarily press the Encoder.

4) Turn the Encoder until [KILLDRY] is displayed.

5) Momentarily press the Encoder.

6) Turn the Encoder to select either [YES] or [NO].

7) Press and hold the Encoder and Right Footswitch simultaneously for a few seconds to exit System Mode.

RTFM: http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pdf/man/m_150251.pdf

It's not quite the same thing- in the DD20 the dry signal is left at 100% and the wet is controlled with the level knob. You could do this with the timefactor if you mixed the dry and wet signals at an outside mixer, but this isn't really practical for pedalboard situations.

[bkd_guitarist]

just wanted to know people opinions of the TF in front of the amp. how does it respond?

I'm not a big fan of using delay in front of the amp (particularly with distorted sounds), but the TF does better than any other delay I've used in that scenario. It doesn't get muddy or warbly like other delays I've used in front of the amp.

That said, I still prefer it in the FX loop.

[nibus]

Just got mine the other day from Musicians friend. I have to say, it blows my DL4 out of the water, both function and sound wise. The digital delay is astounding. Analog is great, not as good as real analog like memory lane or maxon ad9, but it is good nonetheless. plus it has some really "out there" stuff in it. ring mod, leslie sim, etc. really cool pedal.

[Rock72]

For the standard "digital delay" preset, I set the left subdivision to dotted 1/4 and the right to dotted 1/8 and tap BPM to suit. The feedback is around 64% and the wet level is around 42%.

This patch alone covers a ton of territory. Drop the dotted subdivisions and try 1/4 and 1/2. Cool delay beats. Try a good wah and an Eternity in front. Woah!

Good to hear :) as I have both the Timefactor (thanks for the info BTBAM) and the eternity on the way. I emailed Musictoyz with a Q regarding the shielding on Monday before proceeding to order. They never responded, so I took my business elsewhere. Guess they have enough to do since they can afford that :dude