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kingsxman
02-21-2008, 08:41 AM
What are the differences in the different Marshall cabinets? How is a JCM 900 4x12 different than a 1960A or B? What are the good Marshall cabs and what are the crap ones?

I know the 1936 2x12 cabs are awful. I had one and it was the worst cab I've ever heard. Laser beam projection...

peedenmark7
02-21-2008, 08:57 AM
my '85 jcm 800 [1936] cab sounds great...

a 2x12 is going to project differently simply because of the size.

most guys seem to gravitate towards the "B" straight cabs for better bass.

I prefer the look of a slant, but doesnt matter when you have a full stack :)

jonny toetags
02-21-2008, 09:07 AM
A JCM900 4x12 cab comes in either a 1960a (slant) or 1960b (straight).
The 1960a/b is the style, not the model.

SgtThump
02-21-2008, 09:07 AM
I don't believe there are any differences between the JCM800/900 1960 A/B cabs and the newer ones that simply say "1960" on them. I'm pretty sure they're the same thing.

However, there are other Marshall cabs that are different. Going from memory (too lazy to check the Marshall website:)

1960 A/B - Celestion G12T75s
1960 AX/BX - Celestion Greenbacks
1960 AC/BC - Celestion Greenbacks
1960 TV - Celestion Greenbacks and slightly bigger than the other cabs
1960 AV/BV - Vintage 30s

Heck, there are more. The Hendrix cabs, the handwired cabs, the new vintage modern cabs, etc... Check out www.marshallamps.com.

joolzriff
02-21-2008, 11:42 AM
its probably the speakers that u dont like in whatever cab u had...all marshall 4x12's are the same,maybe u like angled or straight...
i went through this my whole teenage yrs not understanding the speaker thing....ive sold a million amps due to this and kept the one marshall cab cos marshall was supposed to be the shizz nizz..
anyways i now understand and like greenbacks,not shrill and hanlde a 100w head and they get pushed to just the right point cos u aint gona be playing anywhere soon that needs the amp on 10

electronpirate
02-21-2008, 11:50 AM
People rave about the 'vintage' ones, but I really like some of the newer ones...even those with the GT75's. And I didn't think either that the 1936 was that bad...but I didn't own it...just played.

I have had a 1960TV for awhile, and it didn't sound great to me...mushed out too much on me.

EP

908SSP
02-21-2008, 02:34 PM
Any of the 1960 cabs are good cabs be careful in that Marshall also makes a bunch of cabs for their transistor amps out of MDF or particle board and they don't measure up.

SatelliteAmps
02-21-2008, 03:42 PM
One other difference in the cabs is that most of the JCM900 cabs have a switching system to run the cab as 4 or 16 ohm as a 4x12, or as two 8 ohm 2x12s.

Scumback Speakers
02-21-2008, 04:03 PM
One of these days I'm going to do Marshall cabs 101...I guess before I sell all the extra ones I have off. In quick summary...

60's-71 construction, 5/8 11 ply baltic birch all the way through.

71 - back panels of particle board

75 - cloth wood risers (the wood that raises the cloth off the actual baffle board so it doesn't rattle) are made of 1/2 particle and 1/2 birch (don't ask me why!)

82 and later - cloth wood risers are full particle board

I don't own any of the JCM 900 cabs, but I've recovered one, the only one I'll ever recover. It truly was a POS. Particle board parts, still birch sides and front baffle, but fairly sloppy hardware installation (I fixed all kinds of stuff).

If you had a choice, stay with the pre 85 cabs.

kingsxman
02-22-2008, 08:36 PM
One of these days I'm going to do Marshall cabs 101...I guess before I sell all the extra ones I have off. In quick summary...

60's-71 construction, 5/8 11 ply baltic birch all the way through.

71 - back panels of particle board

75 - cloth wood risers (the wood that raises the cloth off the actual baffle board so it doesn't rattle) are made of 1/2 particle and 1/2 birch (don't ask me why!)

82 and later - cloth wood risers are full particle board

I don't own any of the JCM 900 cabs, but I've recovered one, the only one I'll ever recover. It truly was a POS. Particle board parts, still birch sides and front baffle, but fairly sloppy hardware installation (I fixed all kinds of stuff).

If you had a choice, stay with the pre 85 cabs.

Thanks! Great info.

dano73327
02-22-2008, 09:16 PM
Personally what I think it boils down to is that anymore with Marshall products you are mostly paying for the name. My plexi re-issue blew an OT after about 2 years of mild playing, and the 1960 tv cab I bought turned out to be a joke. The Greenbacks were made in China and blew after a couple years, and it looks like it's made out of 5/8 MDF and not made well. Beyond all that it's expensive. The cab cost's over a grand and isn't nearly the quality or tone of M/B cab's I've played my amp through.

I unplugged from my 1960TV cab and plugged into a M/B stilleto cab with V30's and it smoked the 1960 cab so bad it was embarrassing.

keith_t4e
02-22-2008, 10:10 PM
1960 A or B 300 watts 75 watt celestions. They sound great with a kind of natural mid scoop. They arre black.
1960 classic slant or straight has black cover and 25 watt greenies 100 watts alltogether.
The TV stands for Taller Version and too has greenbacks 100 watts.
The AC or BC I think it is has greenies but has the checkered cloth and four sepperate campartments of plywood inside cab. These are great cabs and cost about a grand.
They do one with Marshalls Celestion V30s which for some reason are rated at 70 watts a peice instead of 60.

Kitarist
02-22-2008, 11:02 PM
straight cabs just rox

Kitarist
04-02-2008, 11:44 PM
Found a great deal on JCM 900 should i go with the jcm900 cab B or should go with the Botique made Marshall plexi style cab. Would there be a much tone difference

Thanks

Eagle1
04-03-2008, 02:05 AM
The HW 4x12 is great, heritage greenbacks and all ply.