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BluesHarp
03-16-2008, 03:10 PM
I have decided the the Mad Proffesor DBD that I allready own might be a little too dark or vintageY for me. All my amps and pedals allready sound vintage, so Im thinking that the dark space this delay creates might be overkill.

Between the Replica or the Maxon AD999, which has the more control over eq or has a tad more hi-fi than the DBD... without going back to a pure digital sound repeat. Is there any middle ground, or am I just wanting a digital delay?

hurleysurf
03-16-2008, 03:18 PM
I have both the Replica and the Maxon. Niether really gives you much control over EQ unless you count the Replica's brown switch. If I were to only keep one delay, it would be the Replica. I can get it to do about 60% of what the Maxon does, but I can't get the Maxon to do anything the Replica does. I use the Maxon for slap back sounds, darker tones, and oscillation. I use the Replica for light background soloing delay and distorted tones. I have use the brown switch about half of the time. Hope I helped a little bit.

BluesHarp
03-16-2008, 03:20 PM
PS The Honey Bee I have is a very organic but is spongey in the high area, so when running into the dbd things can get pretty dark.

thisfire
03-16-2008, 03:23 PM
I would think that you'd have a difficult time finding middle ground between the DBD and another digital-sounding digital delay (the DBD is digital by the way :) ). To my ears, the DBD bordered on sounding digital. It's a bit dark and does a great job of sounding analog (which is what it's designed to do, I believe), but overall I can't imagine a pedal sounding more digital without, well, being intentionally digital, haha.

BluesHarp
03-16-2008, 03:25 PM
I just played through a super reverb last night... killer fender sound, but at high volume I wish it would clean up a bit better. Excellent amp to run a ts-9 into. I use the E on this amp alot, but like you have a LGW on the way... am excited to see what its like compared to the burst E I have had for awhile. That replica is sounding like what I may be wanting... a switch to turn the brown on and off.


I have both the Replica and the Maxon. Niether really gives you much control over EQ unless you count the Replica's brown switch. If I were to only keep one delay, it would be the Replica. I can get it to do about 60% of what the Maxon does, but I can't get the Maxon to do anything the Replica does. I use the Maxon for slap back sounds, darker tones, and oscillation. I use the Replica for light background soloing delay and distorted tones. I have use the brown switch about half of the time. Hope I helped a little bit.

BluesHarp
03-16-2008, 03:29 PM
Yea, I know the dbd is digital but its tweaked to have that analog sound. This is something I LOVE, but when stacking warm OD's into it and trying to get my amp eqD to last through a gig without constantly changing eq settings.. I need a hair more clarity somehow. Isnt A: rich overdrive into B: Clear digital delay into C: a warm tube amp= still warm and analogY?


All this pedal crap can get frustrating!!! But... I love it.:Spank

I would think that you'd have a difficult time finding middle ground between the DBD and another digital-sounding digital delay (the DBD is digital by the way :) ). To my ears, the DBD bordered on sounding digital. It's a bit dark and does a great job of sounding analog (which is what it's designed to do, I believe), but overall I can't imagine a pedal sounding more digital without, well, being intentionally digital, haha.

thisfire
03-16-2008, 03:55 PM
Yea, I know the dbd is digital but its tweaked to have that analog sound. This is something I LOVE, but when stacking warm OD's into it and trying to get my amp eqD to last through a gig without constantly changing eq settings.. I need a hair more clarity somehow. Isnt A: rich overdrive into B: Clear digital delay into C: a warm tube amp= still warm and analogY?

Haha, yea, I'd say if you need that much more clarity you might as well just go with a full-on digital delay. Have you tried the DD-2 or DD-3?

BluesHarp
03-16-2008, 04:05 PM
Yea.. had the DD-3 before this. It was great, but was too digital and crisp. ( I seemed to think at the time ) Thought about the high cut mod from AM before I got the DBD... sold it after that.

Seegs
03-17-2008, 01:48 AM
I have a DBD and an Analogman AR20DL and in my rig I find the AM delay brighter than the DBD even though it's analog...I got both and intended on keeping the better one but I still have them both cause I can't decide which I like better:p

might be an option...

Chow,
Seegs

Greenbacker
03-17-2008, 02:07 AM
Ever considered the Maxon AD9pro? It is much more hi-fi than my vintage AD-80 but still has that analog feel to it. Longer delay times and true bypass too! Just my two cents. I think it's a great one!

harryjmic
03-17-2008, 06:44 AM
The Dark Blue delay is not that good unless you live for a fake rolled off high end tone. Sorry Mr BJF but this pedal does not cut it. If you want something warm without being overly dark try the HBE Mimic, it's a far better pedal.

BluesHarp
03-17-2008, 08:57 AM
Thanks guys, these leads will help. Ive noticed that the DBD doesnt get as many props around here as I thought.

Im looking for a nice sweet delay that wont over power things... mostly set for ambience. Tap feature is not a have-to-have.

What are the basic differences between the AM AR20DL, Keeley AD-9, and the HBE Mimic? Anybody here try 2 or 3 of these for comparisons?

drod2045
03-17-2008, 09:15 AM
just checked out the mimic on their website...sounds really good! It doesnt have modulation but it sounds like it does a little

flyingvees
03-17-2008, 09:22 AM
Couldnt disagree more about the DBD..Its the only delay I have ever used live and that because I found it very clear sounding with my amp and pedals. I havent tried the other pedals you refered to but my vote is for the DBD.....ALL THE WAY!:cool:

blood5150
03-17-2008, 09:35 AM
i have a maxon AD-999 and I love it...if you dont need the 900ms of analog delay the DBD would be a good choice... also it has a nice small footprint for your pedal board.

BluesHarp
03-17-2008, 06:21 PM
Would the repeats be darker or clearer on the ad999 compared to the dbd? This is one the delays I had wrote down for months to be my next choice ( besides the replica ) but you guys have thrown in some new choices and I cant try them all. :p

i have a maxon AD-999 and I love it...if you dont need the 900ms of analog delay the DBD would be a good choice... also it has a nice small footprint for your pedal board.

If any of you guys actually have or have had the DBD, then that would make things a more pin point deduction for me compare to. Thanks either way though!

orogeny
03-17-2008, 06:25 PM
might want to try a dd20. tone knob is excellent. got rid of a dm3 after i got it b/c i could make it do that thing i loved. . .also prefer it for what i do over the replica. .

sega
03-17-2008, 06:39 PM
Since I have a rex, I recently discover a few tips to get it to sound better, but....knowing that Retro-sonic are coming with a nice 900ms delay in a few weeks, I would wait a bit.
Check this demo out...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a2_nU5bSjk

Also the DD-7 from boss is coming out soon....

You know what?
Try them out first, I know you will have to go to a few stores.Or order it from a distributor.
Make sure you can return it if not satisfied!!!

On the t-rex there is a mixing knob wich I don't really like.
As you turn the delay up, you will lose overall volume, so you have to crank the mixing control knob also.

It's a nice pedal, but too dark to my taste, I would like my sound in between a dd and analog, or why not 2 in 1, that would be great!!!

BluesHarp
03-17-2008, 06:51 PM
Tone knob... well that makes perfect sense!!! All delay pedals ( like ods ) should have this feature.

cbpickin
03-17-2008, 06:59 PM
I have a DBD and an Analogman AR20DL and in my rig I find the AM delay brighter than the DBD even though it's analog..

I've had the DBD and the AD999. The DBD is a great delay, but it was not the tone I was looking for, so I sold it in favor of my Ad900. I would also recommend the Analogman 600 ms delay. I sold my AD999 when it arrived. It is clearer than my Ad900, but still nice and analog sounding. I found the Ad999 a little too clear and bright sounding compared to my AD900. The AM delay is the perfect mix of clear, yet still has the analog warmth. It self-oscillates really easily and can be set for strong or subtle repeats.

I just ordered a Timefactor, so I'm going to experiment again with the wacky world of digital again myself. I am definitely hanging on to the AD900 and AM though. They are both awesome.

BluesHarp
03-17-2008, 07:13 PM
600 ms delay? You mean the Analogman AR20DL?

I've had the DBD and the AD999. The DBD is a great delay, but it was not the tone I was looking for, so I sold it in favor of my Ad900. I would also recommend the Analogman 600 ms delay. I sold my AD999 when it arrived. It is clearer than my Ad900, but still nice and analog sounding. I found the Ad999 a little too clear and bright sounding compared to my AD900. The AM delay is the perfect mix of clear, yet still has the analog warmth. It self-oscillates really easily and can be set for strong or subtle repeats.

I just ordered a Timefactor, so I'm going to experiment again with the wacky world of digital again myself. I am definitely hanging on to the AD900 and AM though. They are both awesome.

blood5150
03-17-2008, 07:17 PM
Tone knob... well that makes perfect sense!!! All delay pedals ( like ods ) should have this feature.


Eventide Timefactor has this feature..... you can adjust the tone of the repeats....

Seegs
03-18-2008, 12:50 AM
600 ms delay? You mean the Analogman AR20DL?

yeah it comes in two versions...the 300ms one (AR20DL) and the AR20DLXL which is 600ms...I think it's $50 more for the XL...
Chow,
Seegs

BluesHarp
03-18-2008, 08:28 AM
What are the basic differences between the AM AR20DL, Keeley AD-9, and the HBE Mimic? Anybody compare these?

otherone
03-18-2008, 10:37 AM
Best combo of clarity and warmth is the SIB Red Echodrive...after that I'd go with a DD2 with hi-cut mod

Softpaw
03-25-2008, 07:49 PM
What are the basic differences between the AM AR20DL, Keeley AD-9, and the HBE Mimic? Anybody compare these?

Good question...

Galapogos17
03-26-2008, 10:42 AM
You could also try the retro-sonic delay. It is an analog delay based on the DM-2 and it has a tone pot. I have not tried it but the clips sound like it might be what you are looking for.

Galapogos17
03-26-2008, 10:44 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a2_nU5bSjk

Retro-Sonic delay demo