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papersoul
04-13-2008, 01:23 PM
Hey guys!
I realized I can't use my Boss (modded by Monte Allums) GE7 because it is not line level. :confused: I love this thing though...
So what is a good alternative? MXR 10 band EQ?
Thanks!
burner
04-13-2008, 01:29 PM
I horsed around with the MXR Kerry King EQ and I thought the world of it.
Haven't bought one yet....
the EQ's I've always been happy with have been the Scholz Rockman EQ and the Boss half-rack graphics and especially parametrics
jb1911
04-13-2008, 01:29 PM
MXR M-109 6 band is a great eq pedal.
lazy912
04-13-2008, 03:09 PM
i got a MXR 10 band EQ. pretty decent.
influence
04-13-2008, 03:28 PM
Barb EQ!
papersoul
04-13-2008, 06:38 PM
It has to be a pedal and have on/off.
So, Barb EQ, Scholz Rockman EQ, Kerry King, MXR 6 band.
Which is most natural, smooth and not processed sounding? My modified Boss sounds good but I can't use it.
It has to work with line level as well. This is only for lead boosts...so mids!
papersoul
04-13-2008, 09:09 PM
bumper....
papersoul
04-13-2008, 09:29 PM
The Barb looks nie but does it boost for mids well?
Are there any boutique quality EQs?
anxiousmofo
04-13-2008, 11:00 PM
Are there any boutique quality EQs?
Antelope Morning Dew EQ, no longer in production.
rogue.guineapig
04-13-2008, 11:11 PM
no love for the BYOC 10 band?
The Barb looks nie but does it boost for mids well?
It has controls for treble, mids and bass as well as a 3 position voicing switch. It works great as clean boost too.
Are there any boutique quality EQs?
All of Dave Barber's stuff is definitely "boutique" quality.
JamonGrande
04-14-2008, 01:51 AM
I used the BarbEQ in a number of configurations for about a year. Some things to consider:
There is a strong presence boost regardless of treble or 3-way switch settings. You will not get a non-effected tone with the pedal engaged.
Out of the three settings, the "marshall" setting seemed to have the least coloration overall, as I found the blackface and tweed settings to have reduced mids (most on the blackface of course).
Lastly, the mid-boost seemed to have a pretty wide Q to it. If you are looking to boost just high mids or low mids, you may not find the exact effect you want.
Not slamming the pedal however, it treated me quite well for that year, and allowed me to get a nice clean tone from my little Supro tweed. Used it with my two combos with TMB eq's for good effect as well. My point being, if you want a dramatic tone shaper, this is a great pedal. Otherwise, there are other options you may want to consider.
joe
Julia343
04-14-2008, 02:10 AM
Don't know anything about this, but this is a parametric EQ with a line out. Ain't cheap though.
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Carl-Martin-3-Band-Parametric-EQ-Pre-amp-183011-i1125262.gc
papersoul
04-14-2008, 06:18 AM
Wouldn't a graphic EQ be best so I could leave it flat if I want for a plain boost? i want something smooth and natural and preferrably graphic, like the old MXR from the 70s. They sound better than the new ones! Problem is, they have no on/off.:(
What I am looking for is something as natural as possible with the ability to shape the sound for solos. Problem is, when jamming with friend at a session, I want to be heard when I kick in a lead. Funny thing is, I have a friend who uses nothing, just his Marshall on stage and hopes the sound guy will turn him up for leads. I guess it has worked so far for him although the last gig I forgot to watch the sound guy to see if that was the case. Maybe it is the nature of Marshalls and EL34 tubes that allow you to stand out no matter what. I also jammed with a guy who played a marshall half stack and he always stood out for leads. All he had was a Marshall distortion pedal, marshall echo, and Boss compressor. I know the distortion wasn't giving the boost. Maybe it was the compressor.
Should I go a different direction? Advice?
ToneJamFX
04-14-2008, 07:43 AM
I now mod the MXR 10 band EQ's if you're interested.
papersoul
04-14-2008, 09:01 AM
I now mod the MXR 10 band EQ's if you're interested.
Do they sound better than the Boss EQ(GE7)/ I have a modded Boss, but it sounds processed like I am playing through a Boss pedal, LOL.
papersoul
04-14-2008, 09:16 AM
Since I am so picky about pedals, I thikn I need a boutique or vintage EQ.
I know the old MXRs sound good.
I found this but would it be easy to replace the toggle with a stomp switch?
http://cgi.ebay.com/MXR-TEN-BAND-10-GRAPHIC-EQUALIZER-EQ-RHOADS-VINTAGE-NR_W0QQitemZ280215332301QQihZ018QQcategoryZ101973Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
ToneJamFX
04-14-2008, 09:17 AM
Do they sound better than the Boss EQ(GE7)/ I have a modded Boss, but it sounds processed like I am playing through a Boss pedal, LOL.
LOL!
I think they sound great, but of course my opinion is gonna be biased.
I just started modding, and selling them, so I haven't gotten a lot of feedback on them.
I actually gave up on my eq search but this makes me want to try again. Is it just me or is there really limited choices in the graphic eq pedal market?
papersoul
04-14-2008, 11:36 AM
LOL!
I think they sound great, but of course my opinion is gonna be biased.
I just started modding, and selling them, so I haven't gotten a lot of feedback on them.
Ha! Well, my friend's vintage 6 band MXR sounds great!
Can you mod the new ones to sound like the vintage version? If you mod the new ones, what does it do to the sound?
What about installing a switching on an older one?
giggedy
04-14-2008, 11:41 AM
I've heard the dano one is actually really good, anyone here with firsthand experience?
baller188
04-14-2008, 03:51 PM
I don't mean to thread jack but are there any pedals like the boss pq-4 that are parametric EQ n will give me a nice clean boost? or am i stuck payin 200+ on ebay
papersoul
04-14-2008, 04:07 PM
I played the Boss again tonight and I think it sounds really good...I just can't use it in my loop. :jo
blackjack davey
04-14-2008, 04:25 PM
Just my .02 cents, but I would recommend the DOD FX40B EQ. Its fairly cheap ($40-50), made of steel, amd can cut/boost upto 18dB.
Hey, if its good enough for Morello & Bellamy it can't be that bad, right?
baller188
04-14-2008, 05:13 PM
has anyone tried the Diamond Boost-EQ http://www.diamondpedals.com/products/boost_eq.html
6stringgrind
04-14-2008, 06:06 PM
I use the Dano Fish n' Chips. Works for me.
forgivenman
04-15-2008, 12:43 AM
I use DOD's eq and love it- it totally changed my approach to guitar when I plugged it in 8 years ago. I never play without it.
Just my .02 cents, but I would recommend the DOD FX40B EQ. Its fairly cheap ($40-50), made of steel, amd can cut/boost upto 18dB.
I use the Dano Fish n' Chips. Works for me.
These are both great pedals. If I'm using an EQ in a true bypass loop (to engage two pedals at once) then I'll use the Dano since I'm not stepping on it. Otherwise the DOD and it's metal enclosure work great.
~MkF!
"First one's free!"
papersoul
04-15-2008, 09:41 AM
How can a cheap DOD sound that clean and natural?
wc8485
04-15-2008, 10:03 AM
I'm not sure you will find a "line level" device in the form of a stompbox...
For flexibility, go with a newer MXR ten band... I believe the KfK has a gain control as well as a level control.
If you narrow the search to line level only, you're most likely going to end up getting a rack unit. Not a 100% sure, so pls dont take this as fact.
More importantly... what's your setup and style of music? Is your fx loop parallel or serial... does it have a + or - setting to adjust for line level vs. stompers? What is your amp volume set to? If its turned up pretty good, you'll have little to no room for "more".
Garbage in, Garbage out kinda thing.
Also, irregardless of what happens in a casual jam and you're wanting to cut thru... the varables will be different in a band setting. A sniper modded GE-7 running into the front of my amp, set flat with a slight boost to volume(even a slight boost to mids works well.) Even modded, if you get carried away with settings its gonna sound bad.
Your question about how can a cheap DOD sound clean and natural... Use your ears, rather than preconceived notions... Just ask fish N chips users.
papersoul
04-17-2008, 06:58 PM
I'm not sure you will find a "line level" device in the form of a stompbox...
For flexibility, go with a newer MXR ten band... I believe the KfK has a gain control as well as a level control.
If you narrow the search to line level only, you're most likely going to end up getting a rack unit. Not a 100% sure, so pls dont take this as fact.
More importantly... what's your setup and style of music? Is your fx loop parallel or serial... does it have a + or - setting to adjust for line level vs. stompers? What is your amp volume set to? If its turned up pretty good, you'll have little to no room for "more".
Garbage in, Garbage out kinda thing.
Also, irregardless of what happens in a casual jam and you're wanting to cut thru... the varables will be different in a band setting. A sniper modded GE-7 running into the front of my amp, set flat with a slight boost to volume(even a slight boost to mids works well.) Even modded, if you get carried away with settings its gonna sound bad.
Your question about how can a cheap DOD sound clean and natural... Use your ears, rather than preconceived notions... Just ask fish N chips users.
Thanks! I know my amp will only work with line level gear in the loop. It is an Egnater MOD 50 and I am using the Series loop, although it also has parallel. I usually have the power amp or master set to about noon or so for jams/band. I play mostly classic rock to heavy metal.
I might try your idea of EQ up front with no EQ, just boost.
The thing is, I like a natural sound, not processed so idealy I would like an EQ or boost for the loop that is transparent and clean, like the Creation Audio Labs mK423, but that is expensive. I was thiking of a vintage MXR 10 band. My friend and I compared some old and new ones and the older seem a bit smoother and cleaner.
The amp has no + or - setting to adjust for line level vs. stompers.
Do you boost mids or level with the GE7 or both? In the loop it is great but I can't use it with this amp.
What is a sniper mod? I find not upping the level at all and instead just boosting mids works. I either like it flat and with a slight boost or no boost and setting the mids higher like EVH used to do back in the day.
thewex
04-17-2008, 07:43 PM
the DOD EQ wasn't bad. it was my 1st EQ, which i just sold recently. but then i got the GE-7 and liked it a lot. then got it sniper'd and its even better. i use it for a slight mid-low end boost. and just a bit of volume boost. that and the tone press are total keys for me.
tantramar
04-17-2008, 07:48 PM
+1 on the Morning Dew EQ. Out of production but they show up in the emporium now and again.
dk123123dk
04-17-2008, 08:01 PM
What about a clean boost pedal instead of EQ? There are plenty of threads on that subject.
You could also get a rack effect that was line level and use a true bypass box to engage or disengage the boost. Plus you would also have a bunch of usable modulations and reverb/echos to use.
dk
papersoul
04-18-2008, 08:09 AM
I still have my Monte Allums modded GE7.
So, I was messing around with that Boss pedal again. You know, I actually like what it does in certain scenarios. I wanted to boost mids a bit and it actually works really well out front hitting the amp I think because it adds a tiny bit of compression since I am boosting frequencies. I don't notice a big difference in tone other than EQ. I may end up keeping it. I'd try the MXR but it doesn't have an on/off. The Dunlop ones do though.
Apparently the MXR is supposed to sound better but I don't know man. have you tried the MXR EQ or the Dunlop? My buddy tried this pedal in his Marshall's loop and felt it made him sound like he was running through a Boss pedal. Personally, I just think running it in front of my amp it just makes it sound more middy and slightly boosted which is kind of what I want for leads. I know it should be int he loop but then I won't get that tiny bit of compression. I am only changing EQ, not level however..but it is enough I think to be heard above the band.
Maybe I won't need an expensive boost pedal which might boost too much! I thikn what I like a lot is ability to change EQ. My channels share EQ and this is a nice change for leads. I can't do this with a compressor or boost. Maybe I'll try to find an MXR to try as well since that can also go in the loop.
What is a sniper mod? I find not upping the level at all and instead just boosting mids works. I either like it flat and with a slight boost or no boost and setting the mids higher like EVH used to do back in the day.
What is the Morning Dew EQ???
Are there any top notch EQs?
Is the Sniper EQ better than the Monte Allums?
How about the Carl Martin 3 band parametric EQ?
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