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kurt1981
05-24-2008, 09:08 PM
Hey guys, I have a tom anderson strat, and I'm hoping to find a pedal to fatten it up slightly. Looking for something that kind of beefs things up, it doesn't need to have a lot of gain or anything, just to kind of balance out the thinner strat tone. I use a carr rambler and my main other ODs are an AC booster and a maxon od820. I've been trying out the fat boost 2, the newest one, and haven't liked it, sounds too mushy and doesn't really fatten up much to my ears.
Thanks,
Kurt

re-animator
05-24-2008, 09:32 PM
RC boost is probably a good bet as it will allow you to dial in a bit of extra bass should you need it. Super chili picoso from catalinbread is a no-EQ clean boost that serves a similar purpose.

theatomicjeff
05-24-2008, 09:34 PM
RC boost is probably a good bet as it will allow you to dial in a bit of extra bass should you need it.
That's my choice. I just got a Dr. Z KT-45 combo today and did a lot of test driving with various pedals. My favorite pedal was the RC Boost and it really loved my Anderson Droptop's neck pickup.

Droptop
05-24-2008, 09:35 PM
Demeter fat control will do the trick

GAT
05-24-2008, 09:41 PM
A modded Boss Eq, you can add a bit of boost and define it with boosting/cutting frequencies.

markom89
05-24-2008, 09:51 PM
I really like using the ZVex Box of Rock *boost* side for this type of thing.

esoteric pete
05-24-2008, 10:35 PM
try to find an old 3 knob menatone red snapper.

kurt1981
05-25-2008, 12:00 AM
I appreciate it guys, thanks so much!! I had a couple questions, first, I worry since the RC has no mid control, I'm almost wanting a bit more fatness in the low mids you know? I've not heard of the demeter, but it sounds like maybe it'd work. I wouldn't mind a bit of light drive that could be dialed in if need be, that or a maybe a dual pedal, a light drive and more of a clean booster side. So many options, and no place to try them!!!
Thanks all,
Kurt

FXMonkey
05-25-2008, 12:19 AM
Hey guys, I have a tom anderson strat, and I'm hoping to find a pedal to fatten it up slightly. Looking for something that kind of beefs things up, it doesn't need to have a lot of gain or anything, just to kind of balance out the thinner strat tone. I use a carr rambler and my main other ODs are an AC booster and a maxon od820. I've been trying out the fat boost 2, the newest one, and haven't liked it, sounds too mushy and doesn't really fatten up much to my ears.
Thanks,
Kurt

What kind of music are you playing? That might be helpful to know..

GAT
05-25-2008, 12:23 AM
I appreciate it guys, thanks so much!! I had a couple questions, first, I worry since the RC has no mid control, I'm almost wanting a bit more fatness in the low mids you know? I've not heard of the demeter, but it sounds like maybe it'd work. I wouldn't mind a bit of light drive that could be dialed in if need be, that or a maybe a dual pedal, a light drive and more of a clean booster side. So many options, and no place to try them!!!
Thanks all,
Kurt

That's why a good eq can work, just pick the frequencies you want to target and cut/boost. Plus, the level control can add a nice boost.

I use two modded Sniper/Boss eqs. I use one with my strats to shape those and add a bit of boost to better match humbuckers. When I switch to humbuckers, I use another to cut the mud on neck humbuckers.

6stringer
05-25-2008, 12:27 AM
I use this primarily when I play my strat.

kurt1981
05-25-2008, 12:30 AM
Well, I work the casino circuit, with one band doing clasic rock and some country, and the other doing funk and R&B stuff. I'm wanting sort of a brent masonish tone, that slightly pushed fat sound. How would something like the Kot do for this? Is there a slightly more economical option than the $400 those are fetching?
Thanks,
Kurt

FXMonkey
05-25-2008, 12:36 AM
I might go with an MJM Blues Devil or perhaps a Zendrive...

rhythmrocker
05-25-2008, 12:39 AM
+! RC Booster

amphead777
05-25-2008, 01:18 AM
I'd go with the AC Booster. More tonal options than the RC. IMO

thisfire
05-25-2008, 01:27 AM
Pretty much any clean boost/light OD will fill your signal out. I'd recommend the Catalinbread SCP, BJF Red Rooster or Baby Pink Booster (if you can get your hands on either), or a BJF Sea Blue EQ...actually, although it might be a TGP sin, I'd even recommend an MXR Micro Amp if you're not a tone snob. One of my fav pedals from a long time ago!

SuperSoundMusic
05-25-2008, 04:42 AM
Personally I've found that when guys are trying to fatten up a Strat it often turns out they're lacking mids. The Demeter is the best thing I've found that does this.

http://www.demeteramps.com/products/pedals/mb2b.html

You know that nifty control in Tyler Guitars that everyone loves called the Mid-Boost Pre-Amp ..... well this is that control in a pedal.

fendergeek
05-25-2008, 04:48 AM
Electro Harmonix Nano LPB-1 Linear power booster.

StompboxMan
05-25-2008, 05:08 AM
The Prescription Dual-Tone does the trick!
www.fuzzbox.com

onestop
05-25-2008, 06:33 AM
I really like using the ZVex Box of Rock *boost* side for this type of thing.


+1! Just started playing the BOR and for this very example, it beat out my RC & my SCP!

Lucidology
05-25-2008, 06:41 AM
Barber LTD VR 2 ...
Simply stomp on a pedal and you get a thicker set of strings without changing tension ...(upping gauge)

pulse.
05-25-2008, 06:46 AM
I use the sib Fatdrive for that purpose

Digby
05-25-2008, 07:11 AM
Well, I work the casino circuit, with one band doing clasic rock and some country, and the other doing funk and R&B stuff. I'm wanting sort of a brent masonish tone, that slightly pushed fat sound. How would something like the Kot do for this? Is there a slightly more economical option than the $400 those are fetching?



I use a Greer Relic Drive for this. 180.00, lifetime warranty. Or you can use a Wampler modded BD-2, the Marshall Bluesbreaker is another that does that well. None with goofy price tag.

Digby

Dave Wakely
05-25-2008, 07:52 AM
Villex passive boost, which replaces your existing jack socket: I have one on two Strats .... or Hao Rust Booster. Can be a fairly clean boost, or up the boost and lower the volume. Range of effects between fattening nicely, or very slight grit.

neil99
05-25-2008, 08:04 AM
I like the original fulltone fatboost over the FB2, and/or a modded GE-7.

kensmith
05-25-2008, 08:42 AM
check out the video for the Xotic AC Plus (dual) pedal. Pete Hines does a demo showing the benefit in a single coil strat:

Go here:
http://www.prosoundcommunications.com/english/xotic/effects/ac_plus/

Then in the video window, click on the menu icon (dots with lines on it), then chose:
"Demo with single coil PU"

He compares bypass signal then with AC Boost, then with one side of the AC Plus ...then with BOTH sides for a real fat sound.

Mine is in the mail and should have it next week!
Ken

kurt1981
05-25-2008, 10:40 AM
Thanks so much guys, seriously, this is a huge help. I tried the AC+ in the shop a month or so ago, and found it to be really raspy, nothing like my single AC booster that I love. The demeter sounds very cool, I may look into that, does anyone know wher to get one? I guess the main concern I have with any of the pure clean boosts is that I'll just get more volume, and I actually want a bi of color to the boost. I had and loved the keeley katana, but sold it because it was completely transparent.
Thanks for the help again, much appreciated,
Kurt

Robal
05-25-2008, 11:23 AM
Try a Klon?

JPF
05-25-2008, 11:28 AM
An Analogman Juicer has given my Strat a whole lot more punch and fullness, and is absolutely brilliant through the clean channel of an EL84 or EL34-driven amp. You might want to check it out. The compression can be minimal or country-style thick, and the boost the pedal gives is immense in terms of fattening the sound.

Sharkey
05-25-2008, 11:53 AM
Try a Klon?
:agree

madscientist
05-25-2008, 12:07 PM
Fulltone Gray box Fat Boost....really thick.

Lt_Core
05-25-2008, 06:05 PM
I would say an EQ and a Blues Pro from MI Audio. Great pedal for my Strat and Rivera!

kurt1981
05-25-2008, 06:20 PM
Not to open the can of worms, but will anything come even close to the Klon's boosting tones without breaking my bank account? I like what my maxon od820 does at minimum gain settings but it seems to drop some bass. If I could get that sound without the bass loss, I'd be a happy camper,
Thanks,
Kurt

thisfire
05-25-2008, 06:46 PM
Aside from its price tag, you probably don't want a Klon anyway...it'll color your tone a ton. There have been some pretty good suggestions so far though!

cber1517
05-25-2008, 07:32 PM
See my Super 6 posts in various threads. I love the way it fattens up a strat without altering anything else. It sound like someone just beefed up your pickups somehow. Does not sound like a pedal at all! I love Brent Mason too and this pedal with my modded Boss CS-3 can get you that fat, spanky tone you want!

:BEER

bosstone
05-25-2008, 07:37 PM
RC Booster, sounds natural, does a great job, eq works very well too.

kurt1981
05-25-2008, 10:43 PM
Hey guys, I narrowed it down, I think. I'm considering the ltd standard with mod board, the red snapper and the RC. I'm wondering, since i did have the ltdSR with mod board and found that a touch too sterile, would the standard version be better? I hope someone can help me figure this out.
Thanks,

Brad J
05-25-2008, 11:13 PM
What amp are you playing through?

3 very different pedals you got there, I've had them all, this is my take:

The LTD (v1) is a great, full sounding drive, sounds good down low, but I dont know if I'd run it all the time.

The snapper has a different mid thing going on, not as warm or open sounding, a bit more gritty than the LTD.

The RC seemed very hi-fi to me, and when you dial in gain it became moreso, not the same drive as the LTD or snapper.

Have you thought about a Bad Bob booster? Run one of these at the end of your chain always on, and it will give you a great fat sound with some nice presence on top, and a hint of grit.

Hey guys, I narrowed it down, I think. I'm considering the ltd standard with mod board, the red snapper and the RC. I'm wondering, since i did have the ltdSR with mod board and found that a touch too sterile, would the standard version be better? I hope someone can help me figure this out.
Thanks,

Droptop
05-25-2008, 11:33 PM
Try a Klon?
The Klon will fatten it up, but will also throw a mid hump. That what got me to sell mine after years of playing with a Klon. The Demeter takes those single coils and fattens the tone up, almost like a compression. Very nice.

The RC lets you expand certain frequencies which is helpful when the amp you're playing is naturally dark or bright.

kurt1981
05-25-2008, 11:59 PM
Sorry, I should have clarified, I won't be running it all the time, just for solos or to kind of get a pushed sound for some things. I love the amp and guitar for clean playing, this is just to bring parts forward,
Kurt

kurt1981
05-26-2008, 12:00 AM
Amp is a carr rambler, and I use a sex drive first, on all the time, then an AC booster, and also a maxon od820 for different applications,
KurtWhat amp are you playing through?

3 very different pedals you got there, I've had them all, this is my take:

The LTD (v1) is a great, full sounding drive, sounds good down low, but I dont know if I'd run it all the time.

The snapper has a different mid thing going on, not as warm or open sounding, a bit more gritty than the LTD.

The RC seemed very hi-fi to me, and when you dial in gain it became moreso, not the same drive as the LTD or snapper.

Have you thought about a Bad Bob booster? Run one of these at the end of your chain always on, and it will give you a great fat sound with some nice presence on top, and a hint of grit.

Brad J
05-26-2008, 01:57 AM
Well as a solo/push probably the Demeter or Klon, maybe even an Eternity dialled down low.
The 3 boosters/od's you mentioned have flatter mids than a standard TS, and mids will give you the fat push you're looking for.

loiking
05-26-2008, 02:36 AM
The Analogman Beano Boost pedal is a boost that can be altered to boost the signal, or midrange, bass or treble frequencies. It is handwired and is based on the famous Dallas Arbiter Treble Booster

loiking
05-26-2008, 02:40 AM
Also, the Analogman TS9/TS808 pedal is a great option, and i suse this personally to fatten up my own strat. If you want to see some demoes check out my vids....

www.youtube.com/louisguitarslinger (http://www.youtube.com/louisguitarslinger)

kstraine
05-26-2008, 02:46 AM
Electro Harmonix Nano LPB-1 Linear power booster.


+1... I was surprised at how it gave a little fatness at low settings. It adds a lot of gain at higher settings, but beefs it up nicely around 9:00... and it's cheap!

tubetone74
05-26-2008, 08:30 AM
Villex mid boost jack unit.

Aj_rocker
05-26-2008, 09:55 AM
what about changing the second tone pot on the bridge pickup and then turning it down a little?? then you can play more with the EQ on the amp to give more fatness.

AJ

jb1911
05-26-2008, 10:03 AM
what about changing the second tone pot on the bridge pickup and then turning it down a little?? then you can play more with the EQ on the amp to give more fatness.

AJ

Also, go to .022 tone caps or even smaller if you haven't already. It takes out more treble and less of the mids than higher value caps. My '62 AVRI Strat came with a .1uf and the tone controls were useless. The .022 made all the difference in the world, like a new guitar.

kurt1981
05-26-2008, 12:24 PM
Hey guys, the TS thing is great, but I have that in the maxon od820, and it still drops some bass out when engaged. That's why I wanted more of the other camp, the fullrange pedals. That was also my concern with the analogman, correct me if I'm wrong.
Thanks again, and as far as the tone cap mods, since it's a tom anderson, I've got one tone knob, for all pickups, and I like the tone of the other two, so that may be hard to do. Thanks again,
Kurt

elicious
05-26-2008, 01:30 PM
I'm wanting sort of a brent masonish tone, that slightly pushed fat sound.

If it's that Brent tone I'm thinking of, then you may want to consider a compressor...adds thickness on the subtle end or you can bump it up to get that swell/sustain that he gets. HTH :)

Austinrocks
05-26-2008, 01:43 PM
A delay echo pedal set to a very short time delay, less than 50ms will fatten up the tone of a strat

TiEsQue
02-20-2011, 02:01 PM
You say you want to boost low-mids. Simple solution...

That's why a good eq can work, just pick the frequencies you want to target and cut/boost. Plus, the level control can add a nice boost.

sick1982
02-20-2011, 02:07 PM
Regarding the fat boost: did you try boosting the lows past 12 o'clock, cutting the highs below 12 o'clock and added volume to compensate the treble loss? I't really gives my strat a nice and full tone, never use my strat without it.

Humancapo
02-20-2011, 02:53 PM
Barber LTD-Special Recipe.

Evansexcellent
02-20-2011, 04:04 PM
I really like: AC booster, Boiling Point (w/fat boost on), Boost side of BOR, SHO, or MK 4.23.

TheLemon
02-21-2011, 12:35 AM
BJFE or MP LGW

DomVito89
02-21-2011, 01:09 AM
Maybe a little unorthodox compared to other suggestions but I have a Earthquaker Devices TOne Reaper that I love to use with my strat, I turn the tone control to the bass side and turn the fuzz almost all the way down. I love this pedal it fattens my strat, stacks well and has nice picking dynamics.

Chappo
02-21-2011, 01:12 AM
Menatone Blue Collar

teddy boy
02-21-2011, 03:13 AM
I'm really interested in the Demeter Fat Control... Does any body use it on all the time? How does it react to the volume knob? If it is on all the time, can it be placed in front of germanium devices, such as a fuzz face? How is it with cleans?

pulse.
02-21-2011, 03:17 AM
Klon can do the trick and ctc vyagra boost with the eq section engaged

KoskineN
02-21-2011, 07:34 AM
I'm using a Xotic EP Booster and it does wonders with my EJ Strat! The "vintage" setting also bring more bass, which can be great too, but I'm using the standard setting right now.

mjcyates
02-21-2011, 07:44 AM
I'm wondering, since i did have the ltdSR with mod board and found that a touch too sterile, would the standard version be better?


For what you are going for, definitely. I use the LTD v2 as my main boost for solos and it works great.

ES330
02-21-2011, 08:55 AM
freak show boost

hagerty
02-21-2011, 09:35 AM
i use the DMB Americana for my strat, it really fattens it up and rounds its off well, and for only $100 you cant beat it.

crawz
02-21-2011, 09:43 AM
The Neunaber Chroma is not simply a chorus. If the depth is set fully CCW or fully CW you get either doubling or tripling.... and it's very good at offering just these. It's a valuable aspect of the pedal that fattens things up beauty fully... in a way I'd expect would work for you.