Is the DL4 the only delay w/ "lo res"?

[Harrison0811]

I have the Dl4 and DD20. Im not a fan of the Dl4 for anything other than the lo res feature. Is this based on another pedal that I could get instead?

[benjisaynomore]

Good question!!! I like a few others but all i've incorporated live is the lo-res...love that delay model!

[smogfalls]

I can get my battered old DOD FX96 Analog Delay to sound very similar to that. It has a "quality" knob which can dirty things up a bit and also make the repeats a bit mellower...very cool.
I think the DL-4 does a few good sounds, I especially like the "multi-head" delay. I'm looking into getting a DD-7 at the moment though to maybe kick the DL-4 off my board and free up a bit of space!

[pbone]

Ibanez DE7

[benjisaynomore]

I can get my battered old DOD FX96 Analog Delay to sound very similar to that. It has a "quality" knob which can dirty things up a bit and also make the repeats a bit mellower...very cool.
I think the DL-4 does a few good sounds, I especially like the "multi-head" delay. I'm looking into getting a DD-7 at the moment though to maybe kick the DL-4 off my board and free up a bit of space!

I have both on my b oard. DD-7 for analog/rhythm/reverse DL-4 for lo-res I too like the multihead...& analog w/modulation

[tomyam]

TC electronic Nova Delay. . . has color knob which controls the color of delay

[Harrison0811]

Thanks everyone.. I was looking at the Nova.. so I may try it out. Maybe replace my DL4 and DD20 with that. It seems to do it all

[Andre357]

The time factor has a very powerful filter that will give you the low res sound.

I have a nova as well and the color knob has nowhere near the range of the Timefactor....

The Nova sounds digital at all settings ( it sounds great - just digital )


the timefactor can truly sound, low res, low fi, filthy and grungy even.....just make sure you try one with the most recent software ( version 2.03 I think )

[Sniper-V]

Thanks everyone.. I was looking at the Nova.. so I may try it out. Maybe replace my DL4 and DD20 with that. It seems to do it all

Nova is a good pedal but I wouldn't say it can do it all.
Owned it twice and sold it both times.

I would pull for the TimeFactor over the Nova.
Cool tones and tricks can be done with the dual delay modes.
I dig the filtered tones.

The DL4 is a volume dropper and tone sucker in stock form...
But, it certainly has some "cool" effects you can pull from it.

The DD-20, IMO is one of the best delay pedals made today.
Very consistent and great for all your traditional delay.
Very flexible on the fly which is great for live.

[rdba]

the timefactor definitly does the lo-res...!!
save the money for a timefactor!!!!

[donnyrocker]

Check out an older Dan Echo by Danelectro (the bigger pedal). While not exactly lo-res start to finish, it does have a Hi-Cut control to degenerate high frequencies for a furry tone. There are some delay settings on this simple pedal that I can't get anything else to match (DL4, various Boss or Digitech units).

[Lolaviola]

There's a Z-Vex sampler, not the same tho.

[pbone]

There's a Z-Vex sampler, not the same tho.

Since when? Oh, nevermind. The LFLF.

[The P-Man]

Check out an older Dan Echo by Danelectro (the bigger pedal). While not exactly lo-res start to finish, it does have a Hi-Cut control to degenerate high frequencies for a furry tone. There are some delay settings on this simple pedal that I can't get anything else to match (DL4, various Boss or Digitech units).

Glad somebody else thinks so!!! I spent all week trying to dial my dl-4 to sound like my Danecho and everytime I think I've nailed the tones I turn the Danecho on and it just sounds better for what I want. It sits in the mix perfectly and just sounds natural which the DL-4 never does for me. I use it for a warm short delay and then just flick the switch for instant slapback tones.

[ben_allison]

What you're looking for is a digital delay that you can turn the bit rate down on.

I'm sure the Nova or the Timefactor have this feature.

[donnyrocker]

I use it for a warm short delay and then just flick the switch for instant slapback tones.

Yep.

There is also a setting where I can get a Phillip Glass vibe going depending on the notes I play and the repeats that come back in counterpoint: I canNOT get any other delay to get there!

(To be fair, the sweep echo setting on the DL4 I can't get anywhere else either.)

[frizbplaya]

(To be fair, the sweep echo setting on the DL4 I can't get anywhere else either.)

I'm one of the few here that actually like the DL-4, but you can get sweep echo with a Memory Lane with a phaser in the expresison loop. That's an expensive upgrade though!

[donnyrocker]

I'm one of the few here that actually like the DL-4, but you can get sweep echo with a Memory Lane with a phaser in the expresison loop. That's an expensive upgrade though!

And my brother thinks I'm putting out fires NOW with all of the button-stompin' I do. ;)

Good advice. I've tried a combination of a wah+phaser+delay as well. Interesting, but a lot of buttons.

I like my DL4. I have a Keeley-ized one and a stock (not a spare, for the OTHER rig!).

[eknapier]

"What you're looking for is a digital delay that you can turn the bit rate down on."

I've been messing around alot lately using my Boomerang as a delay. You can actually set the bit rate anywhere between 8 - 24 khz, for some really great lo-fi delay options. Honestly, I had been shopping for a digital delay w/ tap tempo and w/ this recent discovery I think I'm going to stick w/ the Boomerang for a while, totally unexplored area of this device...

[Zillie]

the new digitech hardwire delay is gonna have that option:

http://www.musik-schmidt.de/osc-schmidt/catalog/popup_image.php?pic=1&p_id=27488

[Red Suede]

The Keeley mod to the Line Six boxes solved the problems I was having with them, i.e. volume drops, and loss of fidelity and effect volume when hit with distortion.

[jamison162]

Check out the Marshall Echohead "ModFilter" setting.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Marshall-Echohead-Digital-Delay?sku=150335&src=3SOSWXXA
http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/regular/7/2/9/468729.jpg (javascript: popup_multi_image('/document?cpd=0OEY&doc_id=99371&base_pid=150335&index=0', 700, 700);)

[nibus]

I just upgraded my Timefactor and I can't wait to try it out - I've really missed my old DL-4's low res model. Especially with an expression pedal.

[mr.mattphisto]

The Keeley mod to the Line Six boxes solved the problems I was having with them, i.e. volume drops, and loss of fidelity and effect volume when hit with distortion.

+1000 here. Keeley's mod makes the pedal amazing.

[Funky Monkey]

You can mess with the internal trim pots of the Ibanez AD9 Analog Delay and get some really messed up lo-fi tones. Don't know whether or not they'll damage the pedal, though.

[frizbplaya]

The lo-res delay on the DL4 is the main reason I still keep this pedal. Having to do syncopated taps to get dotted eighth delays is a pain but until I find a tap delay with a variable bitrate the DL4 isn't leaving. Plus it's nice having presets and a long analog mod since analog delays have a max of around 550 ms.

[nibus]

I have a feeling the next update for the timefactor will have a "real" bit rate adjustment option - its being requested a lot in the eventide forum.

[mr. stanley]

If you guys figure out how to make a Nova sound like the low-res setting on a DL4 please post...to me the color knobs do very little coloring

You could try a darker analog delay for dirty low res repeats...or check out the Earthquaker Disaster Transport

[frizbplaya]

The nova seems to just change the tone. Lo-res digitally breaks down with each repeat similar to how a bucket brigade analog delay breaks down but more digital sounding.

If the time factor adds a bit rate adjustment I would get it. Is there a petition I can sign???

[Swirl]

The lo-res delay on the DL4 is the main reason I still keep this pedal. Having to do syncopated taps to get dotted eighth delays is a pain but until I find a tap delay with a variable bitrate the DL4 isn't leaving. Plus it's nice having presets and a long analog mod since analog delays have a max of around 550 ms.

Timefactor - variable bitrate down to 8 bit. tap, 40 presets, so much more.

[frizbplaya]

Timefactor - variable bitrate down to 8 bit. tap, 40 presets, so much more.

Is variable bitrate new or has it always been there? Maybe it's time to take a harder look at this pedal. I've watched a couple demos but I think it would take an hour to properly go through all it's functionality, I'm probably only seeing 40% of what it can do.

[Swirl]

I've only experieced the Timefactor with the latest software. So I'm not sure if the bitcrushing is new. I really haven't seen any demos that do this pedal justice. The flexibility simply tops everything I've ever tried and the sounds are great. two independent delays for every mode with seperate time and feedbacks all controllable with an expression pedal including being able to crossfade between them.


I actually blame the demos for keeping me away from this for so long.

[frizbplaya]

I just read the manual... dang the timefactor does a lot!! Technically ist's awesome. I just need to play with it and make sure I like the sounds. I didn't realize you can assign external buttons too. I thought it would be annoying to switch between play mode and bank mode but it'd be simple to make a two button switch that does bank up/bank down, ignore the subbanks (still have 20 presets) and always leave the thing in play mode. Hmmmmmmmmm.

[MikeNiteRail]

I don't get the lo-res thing. I am not dissing it...I just don't understand its use. Can someone explain or point to some examples? Why use it over an analog delay?

[delayayay]

Because it sounds different than any analog delay I've ever used.

It has it's own thing going on.