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don maxxx
06-27-2008, 12:37 PM
^^^
Effect quality-wise
Tone-loss-wise
ease-of-use-wise
The Timefactor has been pointed by some guys as sterile sounding. From the youtube videos it doesn't sound sterile to me, at all.

What are your opinions guys? Which is better?

:BEER
Cheers!

blood5150
06-27-2008, 12:50 PM
Dude, you can do soooo much with the Timefactor....

You cant find another peice of gear that does as many things as well and sounds as good doing them.

don maxxx
06-27-2008, 12:53 PM
Dude, you can do soooo much with the Timefactor....

You cant find another peice of gear that does as many things as well and sounds as good doing them.
thanks for the opinion.
Let them flow!!!:munch

fenderbender4
06-27-2008, 01:01 PM
They're going for two different things. I have not played the Mad Professor, but have played other models of Bjorn's. Bjorn is a genius when it comes to sonics in his pedals. I'm guessing the mojo factor is high on the Deep Blue Delay.

That said the Eventide sounds good too (maybe not purely as good as the Deep Blue Delay, but about 95%). On top of that you have so many more options for delay. If you are looking for a simple, ambience sort of delay and don't need different delay sounds I'd say go Mad Professor. If you're going for any sort of U2, various kinds of delay, etc. the eventide is the ticket.

popsongsmith
06-27-2008, 01:08 PM
talk about an apples to oranges comparison...

don maxxx
06-27-2008, 01:09 PM
They're going for two different things. I have not played the Mad Professor, but have played other models of Bjorn's. Bjorn is a genius when it comes to sonics in his pedals. I'm guessing the mojo factor is high on the Deep Blue Delay.

That said the Eventide sounds good too (maybe not purely as good as the Deep Blue Delay, but about 95%). On top of that you have so many more options for delay. If you are looking for a simple, ambience sort of delay and don't need different delay sounds I'd say go Mad Professor. If you're going for any sort of U2, various kinds of delay, etc. the eventide is the ticket.
I listen to prog, psychedelic and hippie music. So I really would like various kinds of delays.
But don't refer this thread to me, let's talk about them in general.

don maxxx
06-27-2008, 01:20 PM
talk about an apples to oranges comparison...
It might be, but I refferd at some points in the opening post. The most important feature for me for a pedal is to not colour the tone, all other things come 2nd.

soli528
06-27-2008, 01:23 PM
Consider this: they're roughly the same price. You could find at least two or three patches on the TF that you would like as much as the DBD (I had a DBD for a while and it does the vintage, analog sounding delay very well), but your patches could be set to double or triple the delay time as the DBD. And as good as the DBD sounds, there are some sort of smeary artifacts and some clicking at longer delay times.
Anyway, you could then use the other 18 banks for completely different sounds- convincing chorus, reverb, band delays, etc... Plus it's got dual delay times! And expression pedal capabilities! And USB connectivity to back up your patches and upgrade the firmware! Plus reverse echo and a looper! I think I'm done.

popsongsmith
06-27-2008, 01:31 PM
It might be, but I refferd at some points in the opening post. The most important feature for me for a pedal is to not colour the tone, all other things come 2nd.
well, you did ask about ease of use. you're basically comparing a highly specialized computer with a simple analog audio device.

It's like asking, which is better for writing my first novel--an antique quill pen and some parchment paper, or an iMac.:confused:

Jason Carter
06-27-2008, 01:37 PM
If your a delay minimalist and want warm analog delay at about 400ms, similiar to a tape echo, then buy the Deep Blue Delay. If your wanting the swiss army of delays then go with the Timefactor. Proguitarshop has some really nice demos of the DBD and Timefactor.

blood5150
06-27-2008, 02:02 PM
to put it another way.... the TF is around 399 and the DBD is about 350 right?

TF wins purely on the fact that it has tap tempo... a must for any live band.

fusionbear
06-27-2008, 09:08 PM
I have demoed both, the loop feature on the TF won me over, and the fact that it can simulate a tape delay pretty convincingly made it worth the extra $50.00

macmax77
06-27-2008, 10:34 PM
i have a gbd

i would love to have a trex or the best out there, a moog, no timefactor for me

Rock72
06-28-2008, 08:37 AM
I haven't tried the DBD, but I did have a Timefactor. Too me it was a great sounding delay, but because of my short attention span, I didn't feel like I got to use it to its fullest. I wanted something a little simpler, so I bought a Nova Delay. The Nova is simpler, but I personally think the Timefactor was a tad better sounding (as well as more versatile). Didn't find it sterile sounding.

The new DBD has 400 ms delay time, whereas the older version had 600ms. I don't know if that makes a difference. If you just want a delay, analog sounding, to fatten up your sound (or similar applications), then the DBD may be your ticket. However, if you want more features for more versatility, the Timefactor is your ticket. Soli528 gave you a good take on this.

If I had to choose, I'd go for the Timefactor.

earthmud
06-28-2008, 11:05 AM
to put it another way.... the TF is around 399 and the DBD is about 350 right?

TF wins purely on the fact that it has tap tempo... a must for any live band.


Ive seen DBD's go for 220$ on tgp. It's the only delay I'll ever use. It's there when you want it and fades into the background when you don't.

lv
06-28-2008, 11:14 AM
imo, the timefactor is capable of some higher fidelity tones, but overall can sound very warm, full, thick....nothing sterile about it.

Moods
06-28-2008, 11:21 AM
The DBD is one heck of a little box for the size. I preferred it to most delay's I have tried. Very natural sounding for a digital pedal. Cuts through nicely and handles being hit with some significant signal. Very well thought out pedal IMO.

I have not tried the TF.

<M

jzucker
06-28-2008, 12:30 PM
i sold my timefactor. Didn't like the interface and there were too many glitches in the patches I liked and support was spotty. I did love the tone though. it's got plenty of mojo.

don maxxx
06-28-2008, 12:53 PM
The timefactor works with any expression pedal?

TheWarmth
06-29-2008, 10:43 AM
to put it another way.... the TF is around 399 and the DBD is about 350 right?

TF wins purely on the fact that it has tap tempo... a must for any live band.

I certainly would not agree with this. I had a Memory Lane for some time and rarely used the tap tempo. Now I have an Echoczar and don't miss the tap tempo at all. Of course, if you want to attempt to sound like the Edge, you'll probably need it, but I think delay can be used quite musically without it.

merkaba22
07-27-2010, 08:31 AM
Consider this: they're roughly the same price. You could find at least two or three patches on the TF that you would like as much as the DBD (I had a DBD for a while and it does the vintage, analog sounding delay very well), but your patches could be set to double or triple the delay time as the DBD. And as good as the DBD sounds, there are some sort of smeary artifacts and some clicking at longer delay times.
Anyway, you could then use the other 18 banks for completely different sounds- convincing chorus, reverb, band delays, etc... Plus it's got dual delay times! And expression pedal capabilities! And USB connectivity to back up your patches and upgrade the firmware! Plus reverse echo and a looper! I think I'm done.
I know this is an old thread but I just picked up a TF and am a bit of a minimalist -- I am looking for some setting to help me get started along the lines of a "convincing chorus, reverb" patch -- ie. mild chorus, with ambience.