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GVDub
07-03-2008, 11:43 AM
I'm in the market for a relatively inexpensive hollow-body electric, and I've got a chance to get a great deal on one of the Artcore AF125s. I really can't spend as much as I'd like (I've been looking at things like the Heritage 175 clone, the mid-range Gibsons, or one of the Guild hollow-bodies but just can't justify the green), so I'm looking at the lower-end. Anybody here have any experience with the Ibanez stuff and how does it stand up against the higher-priced spread?

Tritone
07-03-2008, 12:24 PM
I own an Ibanez AF-105. It's pretty great. It actually has better action than any other guitar I've ever owned. The hardware is pretty decent; I didn't feel the need to replace the tuners like I do with some lower-end guitars. I even liked the stock pickups. It's pretty hard to go wrong with these guitars, IMO.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3080/2422372973_4c115a959f.jpg

Austinrocks
07-03-2008, 01:45 PM
I love the artcores, really love the pups on them, though I did buy a Epi Sheraton semi-hollow body a while back instead, and change out the pups, the artcore hollow body is definitely on my to buy soon list, really just figuring out which one to buy, I am also learning about guitars that are not solid, and there are a lot of things to learn, good high fret access for instance.

Todd Lynch
07-03-2008, 02:10 PM
I own an Ibanez AF-105. It's pretty great. It actually has better action than any other guitar I've ever owned. The hardware is pretty decent; I didn't feel the need to replace the tuners like I do with some lower-end guitars. I even liked the stock pickups. It's pretty hard to go wrong with these guitars, IMO.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3080/2422372973_4c115a959f.jpg

These are nice.

Bryan T
07-03-2008, 02:15 PM
I think the base guitars are quite nice. There are a few places where they cut corners (bridges, pickups) and a few things I don't like (gaudy inlays on some, gold hardware on some). A lot of the guitars that I've played have needed some fretwork, but that isn't that big of a deal. I have one of the 335 style guitars right now and after a new bridge, pickups, and some fretwork I think it'll be an excellent instrument.

Bryan

5E3
07-03-2008, 02:36 PM
I tried an AG75 like this one a year or so back:
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii180/5e3/misc/p20454.jpg
It sounded fine, the build quality was good, but the body was physically to large for me to play comfortable after getting hooked on a Strat. The other hollow body I tried was a Schecter Diamond Series, which was wonderful except for the Bigsby Trem. Went out of tune every time I touched it. :(

1973Marshall
07-03-2008, 02:55 PM
I think some are better than others, but the AF105 and the AS73 are great values. Not thrilled with pups, but the AS73 is a gigging machine for the price.

frank62
07-03-2008, 03:24 PM
They are great values. Also might look at a Washburn J6.

Tritone
07-03-2008, 03:34 PM
I think some are better than others, but the AF105 and the AS73 are great values. Not thrilled with pups, but the AS73 is a gigging machine for the price.

I actually own both of those! And I replaced the AS73's pickups with Seth Lovers to my great satisfaction.

derekd
07-03-2008, 04:08 PM
As others have said, great bang for the buck.

ThePK
07-03-2008, 05:24 PM
- I have an AF-75 that's a suprisingly good guitar. Got it new at Guitar Center for $300. I really like the way it sounds.


Here's a short recording of it:

http://www.funkymusic.no/images/comprofiler/plug_profilegallery/63/pg_1271796933.mp3

Birddog
07-03-2008, 06:16 PM
I recently sold my Artcore but have zero complaints about it. I just wasn't using it. It was surpsingly detailed in construction and had wonderful tone and feel.

teleman65
07-03-2008, 10:53 PM
I have one of these. It needed a bit of work but it sounds okay. I'm going to change the pickups.

I tried an AG75 like this one a year or so back:
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii180/5e3/misc/p20454.jpg
It sounded fine, the build quality was good, but the body was physically to large for me to play comfortable after getting hooked on a Strat. The other hollow body I tried was a Schecter Diamond Series, which was wonderful except for the Bigsby Trem. Went out of tune every time I touched it. :(

dead mike
07-03-2008, 11:05 PM
ive got an afs75t and i recommend it. the finish is top notch and the frets were nicely dressed and it has a thin fast neck. the down side is the bigsby gos sharp on the bottom stings (i can fix this i think) and the neck to me is not sturdy enough in the body attachment. As bad as that sounds i still like the guitar and it has its own distinct sound with those low powered pups.

dksouthpaw
07-03-2008, 11:05 PM
just stay away from the ones with the tremolo arm. i didnt have one myself but a friend did and that arm was horrible. otherwise it was a really nice guitar for the price. i went the Epi Dot route and wish i would done the ibanez now. oh wells

shally
07-04-2008, 12:57 AM
- I have an AF-75 that's a suprisingly good guitar. Got it new at Guitar Center for $300. I really like the way it sounds.


Here's a short recording of it:

http://www.funkymusic.no/images/comprofiler/plug_profilegallery/63/pg_1271796933.mp3


nice work.. your guitar may be 300 bucks, but your hands are gold..

i want someone to tell me they can tell that recording was made with a 300 dollar guitar ? they cant

one of my favorite guitarists in new orleans, Mem S..., used to record and play with one of the low end peavey solidbodies.. man ! he had chops and tone.. he finally landed an endorsement deal with an unnamed big company to play and use one of their semi-hollowbody instruments.
he would keep 'em for a while and then sell them off because he liked his sound better on the cheap Peavey.. so did i...

dead mike
07-04-2008, 01:24 AM
hey im a bouncer at a bar here in Edmonton, Mem just came through a few weeks ago. Man can he play.

shally
07-04-2008, 01:30 AM
hey im a bouncer at a bar here in Edmonton, Mem just came through a few weeks ago. Man can he play.

he is a better singer even.. when you look up "soulful" in the dictionary, his picture is there.

you could not find a nicer human being. self taught. driving a cab for years to support himself. i love him and wish him every good fortune someone can have- he is like family to me..

soopajeanmi
07-04-2008, 02:06 AM
I'm in the market for a relatively inexpensive hollow-body electric, and I've got a chance to get a great deal on one of the Artcore AF125s. I really can't spend as much as I'd like (I've been looking at things like the Heritage 175 clone, the mid-range Gibsons, or one of the Guild hollow-bodies but just can't justify the green), so I'm looking at the lower-end. Anybody here have any experience with the Ibanez stuff and how does it stand up against the higher-priced spread?

Had a AK-95 for a while. They're good. THe neck is particularly round and comfy, the setup is nice. I'd change the pickups as they're lacking in mids compared to a gibson.

Blind Rat
07-04-2008, 03:20 AM
I got an AF75 a couple of months ago I love it way more versatile than I thought it would ever be,the pick ups are not bad and I think all the Artcores have the same ACH 1 and 2 pick ups.

ThePK
07-04-2008, 03:21 AM
nice work.. your guitar may be 300 bucks, but your hands are gold..

i want someone to tell me they can tell that recording was made with a 300 dollar guitar ? they cant

one of my favorite guitarists in new orleans, Mem S..., used to record and play with one of the low end peavey solidbodies.. man ! he had chops and tone.. he finally landed an endorsement deal with an unnamed big company to play and use one of their semi-hollowbody instruments.
he would keep 'em for a while and then sell them off because he liked his sound better on the cheap Peavey.. so did i...

- Thank you Sir, far too kind!

Paul Conway
07-04-2008, 03:32 AM
he is a better singer even.. when you look up "soulful" in the dictionary, his picture is there.

you could not find a nicer human being. self taught. driving a cab for years to support himself. i love him and wish him every good fortune someone can have- he is like family to me..

Love that track, 'Wrong People In Charge'. Wish him every success.

Re: guitars - I would suggest trying a Peerless if you can find one. Made by the Korean factory that used to do Epiphone before they went to China. Excellent guitars.

Redfish
07-04-2008, 03:34 AM
- I have an AF-75 that's a suprisingly good guitar. Got it new at Guitar Center for $300. I really like the way it sounds.


Here's a short recording of it:

http://www.funkymusic.no/images/comprofiler/plug_profilegallery/63/pg_1271796933.mp3

That guitar sounds great and the playing is great too.

Paul Conway
07-04-2008, 06:00 AM
that Guitar Sounds Great And The Playing Is Great Too.

+1!:aok

CincinnatiSi
07-04-2008, 07:20 AM
that sounded great. It's now on my list.

5E3
07-04-2008, 07:35 AM
- I have an AF-75 that's a suprisingly good guitar. Got it new at Guitar Center for $300. I really like the way it sounds.

Here's a short recording of it:

http://www.funkymusic.no/images/comprofiler/plug_profilegallery/63/pg_1271796933.mp3
Awesome playing! :AOK

GVDub
07-04-2008, 09:48 AM
I got an AF75 a couple of months ago I love it way more versatile than I thought it would ever be,the pick ups are not bad and I think all the Artcores have the same ACH 1 and 2 pick ups.

The AF125 has the Custom 58 pickups, which I think are the same pickups as the Scofield signature model.

GVDub
07-04-2008, 09:52 AM
Thanks for all the feedback, folks. With the deal that I can get on this AF125, it's looking like a no-brainer. Now to get back to work on the chord theory end of things so I can fake my way through some jazz gigs :-)

Mondoslug
07-04-2008, 10:20 AM
- I have an AF-75 that's a suprisingly good guitar. Got it new at Guitar Center for $300. I really like the way it sounds.


Here's a short recording of it:

http://www.funkymusic.no/images/comprofiler/plug_profilegallery/63/pg_1271796933.mp3
Wow...you might have just sold me on that guitar, of course your playing is great too. What's on there 11s?...round, flat...very nice.

improviduto
07-04-2008, 10:50 AM
I've never had the pleasure of owning any of the Artcore guitars; however, I have spent time with several and consider them great guitars.

archtopjazz
07-04-2008, 11:06 AM
- I have an AF-75 that's a suprisingly good guitar. Got it new at Guitar Center for $300. I really like the way it sounds.


Here's a short recording of it:

http://www.funkymusic.no/images/comprofiler/plug_profilegallery/63/pg_1271796933.mp3

Great playing and tone.

burchyk
07-04-2008, 12:09 PM
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I have AF105F, craftmanship detail is great, high level, but it came with POS pickup, nut, pots and wiring. If you change those it might be a very fine guitar

Marcello
07-04-2008, 01:04 PM
- I have an AF-75 that's a suprisingly good guitar. Got it new at Guitar Center for $300. I really like the way it sounds.


Here's a short recording of it:

http://www.funkymusic.no/images/comprofiler/plug_profilegallery/63/pg_1271796933.mp3



just bought one today, your excellent recording confirm I was right !

mds
07-04-2008, 01:18 PM
I played Ibanez hollowbodies for years. Had an (f)ArtStar AF-120 and an AS-80 for a long time and went through a few of the older models(Benson, FA-100, etc). Now I only own an old AM-50 semi-hollow and my main jazz box is a Gibby 175. I really searched for a long time playing jazz boxes. In addition to all the Ibanezes I've owned Heritage, Tacoma, Godin, etc. For me the 175 was the end of the road...its just a perfect guitar for me.

That said, I was and am always impressed with Ibanez, particularly their hollow and semi hollow guitars. My AM-50 is one of the best guitars I've ever owned or played...I'm not sure what your budget is, but I highly recommend the old Ibanez guitars from Japan. Late 70s to Early 80s Ibanezes are some of the best guitars ever made. Even in current models the Japanese built ones are the best, imo. The newer Chinese ones feel a little light and cheap to me. The necks are a bit too thin and I think that effects the tone to some degree....its all subjective, though, and as illustrated many times, its 95% the player, so just find one that feels right...

Good luck..

Mike

sinner
07-04-2008, 02:16 PM
just bought one today, your excellent recording confirm I was right !

I found one online with the designation AFS75, is this different than the AF75? May be a slightly thinner body? Some sites have the AF75 and I can't really see difference in specs.

crzyfngers
07-04-2008, 02:21 PM
- I have an AF-75 that's a suprisingly good guitar. Got it new at Guitar Center for $300. I really like the way it sounds.


Here's a short recording of it:

http://www.funkymusic.no/images/comprofiler/plug_profilegallery/63/pg_1271796933.mp3
very nice. kinda pat metheny . great tone. helluva right hand you got there.

Chuck King
07-07-2008, 03:20 PM
I have an AF95, and I like it a lot. I'm not sure whether there are differences beyond the cosmetic between the AF75 and AF95, but when I picked up an AF95 it just spoke to me in a way that none of several AF75s I'd played did. Maybe it was just a particularly nice one.

The "S" designation in the model number means "slimline" or something like that---they are thinner. An AFS75 is about the thickness of a Casino et al.; an AF75 is a full big box. It used to be that you had to get the thinner one to get the Bigsby-esque trem on it, but I seem to recall seeing a new run of full-bodied AF75 models with trems recently.