Jensen re-issue vs. real vintage Jensen

[mtlin]

I recently got a Clark 5E3 with a Jensen re-issue P12Q. I switched it out for a real vintage 1960 Jense P12Q. The recording is reamped so my crappy playing isn't a variable. Mic placement is, since, obviously, I had to move the cab in order to replace the speaker. But I took photos of the mic and cab so that I could recreate the placement pretty closely.

Re-issue Jensen (http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=850526&songID=6684494)

Real Vintage Jensen (http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=850526&songID=6684514)

[MBreinin]

I like the vintage one. It has bit less clarity, but it has a more rich tone.

Mike

[slider313]

Original Jensen all the way.The "reissue" sounds brittle when chording and has a very "cardboard" like tone.The original was smooth and sweet.

[gkoelling]

I like the vintage better too.

The thing we can't know is what a new Jensen sounded like in 1960 and what 48 years of aging has done to the original tone.

[mtlin]

I like the vintage better too.

The thing we can't know is what a new Jensen sounded like in 1960 and what 48 years of aging has done to the original tone.

True enough! But the re-issue has been broken in and there is something nasty about the top end with that speaker. In the end, I don't care what the original sounded like 48 years ago. I like the way it sounds now.

[straticus]

Another vote for the original.

I like both speakers but there's something truly inspirational about the tone of the original.

I wonder which one would cut through better in a band situation?

[mtlin]

I haven't used it in a band situation yet, but I think the vintage one would do fine. I miced the amp very quickly for those clips, and it was excessively far from the center of the cone I think. It's not really as dark as it sounds. What does come through in the clips is the smoothness which is real. Check out my Ho's attenuator thread for what I take to be a more representative sample of that amp and speaker combination.

[S.W.Erdnase]

Not much in it, in all honesty. As noted, the reissue is new. Give it a few years.

[mtlin]

Not much in it, in all honesty. As noted, the reissue is new. Give it a few years.

When did I say that the reissue was new? It's not. Besides who has a few years to give a bad sounding speaker?

[S.W.Erdnase]

If it's bad, why did you bother? I meant give it a few years if you're waiting for some ellusory vintage mojo.

The vintage sounds awesome. I'd totally go with the vintage. Is this what you wanted to read?

[mtlin]

If it's bad, why did you bother? I meant give it a few years if you're waiting for some ellusory vintage mojo.

The vintage sounds awesome. I'd totally go with the vintage. Is this what you wanted to read?

Bother to do what? Change the speaker to something that sounds better to me? I don't mind if you prefer the re-issue or think that they sound the same. You don't have to like the tones I like and vice versa. You just misread my post if you thought the re-issue was new. And as far as waiting years for something, hey...I may be dead by then.

[S.W.Erdnase]

Okay, man. No problem. Sorry if I stirred you up about it. Enjoy the amp, amigo. No matter what speaker you use, the Clark's gonna add a whole lot to the mojo.

[mtlin]

Okay, man. No problem. Sorry if I stirred you up about it. Enjoy the amp, amigo. No matter what speaker you use, the Clark's gonna add a whole lot to the mojo.

It's all good. Peace.

[RedMan]

It sounds like more than just the speaker making the new one break up funny.

[mtlin]

It sounds like more than just the speaker making the new one break up funny.

The settings on the amp were all the same and it got the same signal from my DAW. It's got to be the speaker. I've heard that kind of noise from speakers before. It's just easier to notice if your ear (or mic) is directly in front of it.