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chris b
08-10-2008, 05:22 PM
First a little history...

For 15 years I used a custom made alder body strat with no pickgaurd and rosewood board with a Duncan Custom in the bridge and 59 in the neck. A little over a year ago I bought a used Gibson Les Paul Classic and after gigging with the original pups for a few gigs I decided to go with the same pup combo as my strat.

There was an huge improvement in clarity and tone from the super hot gibson pups but there was still this bright razors edge aggresiveness that could'nt be dialed out. My setup is a Marshall DSL50 (svetlana EL34s and JJ pre's) and an Avatar Oversized Vintage 2x12 with V30s, so there's plenty of brightness and upper mids there. I always seemed to be turning down the bass and the highs but could'nt find the tone I was looking for.

I had read in the past that the Duncan Custom Custom is just a Duncan Custom with an Alnico 2 magnet instead of a ceramic magnet and should only be used for bright guitars. I never thought that a LP would be considered bright but on a whim I bought an alnicon 2 mag online and had my tech put it in my Duncan Custom.

The difference was incredible! The top end was slightly rounded off without the sharp edge but was still clear. The bottom end was still there but not as overwhelming as with the ceramic mag. But the best improvement was the buttery lower midrange growl that alnico 2 mag added that I had been missing with the ceramic mag.

The Duncan Custom Custom is a ballsy, moderate to high output pup that will cut through without the icepicky harshness of some high output ceramic mag pups and would sound great in all but the warmest sounding guitars, especially if you're using a bright amp.

I read alot of people complain about trying to dial out the brightness of their rig and sometimes amps and speakers are to blame, but I hope this helps give players another option to try before replacing their whole rig. It really opened up my eyes...and ears!

Chris

paintguy
08-10-2008, 06:21 PM
I'm a big Custom fan myself, but experienced the exact same scenerio.

I had a bright 59' Reissue Les Paul that went through quite a few pup changes and then I tried the Custom Custom. End of story and search. Made my bright, thin Les Paul sound like what a Les Paul should sound like.

Thick, meaty, and warm...

Awesome pup in bright guitars!

gerryguitar
08-10-2008, 06:52 PM
I had a 62 re issue strat from about 1990, I had it modified with a flatter board, 6150 frets and a custom custom in the bridge.... and it was the best strat I ever had... the custom custom was a great humbucker in THAT guitar... I sold it in a moment of madness and later tried to recreate the guitar.. with the same spec..... it just wasn't the same... sometimes you just find something that works for a particular guitar.. if you do... stick with it.

chris b
08-11-2008, 04:48 PM
I'm a big Custom fan myself, but expereinced the exact same scenerio.

I had a bright 59' Reissue Les Paul that went through quite a few pup changes and then I tried the Custom Custom. End of story and search. Made my bright, thin Les Paul sound like what a Les Paul should sound like.

Thick, meaty, and warm...

Awesome pup in bright guitars!


It's funny you mention that, every new burstbucker equipped LP I try whether it be Custom Shop or not has this bright almost single coil like quackiness to my ears. Maybe it's the Alnico5 mag I'm hearing? The Duncan tone chart shows most of the A5 mag pups to have a mid scoop and tend be on the brighter side.

Chris

paintguy
08-11-2008, 05:19 PM
Mine was a older pre-Burstbucker 1989' pre-historic 59' Reissue Les Paul and the only Les Paul out of many I have owned that was just too bright and thin and trebley..

I have had a dozen or so Les Pauls and still have 3 and have only experienced it with the one guitar.

Either way, the point of this thread is that the Custom Custom does a great job of thickening, warming, fattening up a bright guitar.:D

And yes, I find A5's to be a little bright for my tastes. Not always, but in general I like A2's.

big mike
08-11-2008, 05:20 PM
Too hot for me in most guitars. BUt in a thin anemic sounding bridge position, this si SOO the ticket.

rob2001
08-11-2008, 05:34 PM
I've had one in a Soloist for a few years and I love it. The Jackson also has an active mid-boost system so that with the CC is as fat as i've got with an Alder body. (pretty sure the soloist is alder). Thats running into a JCM 800, which is indeed fairly bright. Another sweet aspect of this setup is that with the Jackson I can plug straight in and there is no need for a boost type pedal. It's dam hot but for what it does it's hard to beat. If I need other "not so hot" tones i'd have to use my Tele.

I'd totally agree with chris b's review.

rob2001
08-11-2008, 05:43 PM
sometimes you just find something that works for a particular guitar.. if you do... stick with it.

LOL!! As mentioned in my previous post, my Soloist has an active mid boost on board. Not sure what I was thinking, I always loved the tones, but I ripped out the mid boost.:jo Bad move....It was cool but dang if I felt like I was trying to compensate for it being gone. Luckily I found a schematic for it and was able to re-install it. Somthing about the comination there I really like.

Like you said, some things just work for certain guitars. I won't be messing with it any more. If I need different tones i'll buy or build another guitar!

Mark Robinson
08-11-2008, 06:00 PM
I painted a "super strat" parts guitar for a friend, years ago, and when I put the thing together, whoaaa, I just fell in love with the sound of that pickup. So my buddy gave me one, as payment for spraying that body for him.

I'm currently using it in a recent Les Paul Custom. I use a coil split switch on the volume pot with it and once again, it's working great. It definitely has some output, and it's got some top end slice to it.

frankencat
08-11-2008, 06:48 PM
A CC in the right guitar is a thing of beauty. :)

joolzriff
08-11-2008, 08:35 PM
put a CC in a lespaul custom w/ ebony fingerboard,now thats the ultimate!! i havnt taken that pickup out in roughly 15yrs

Mike Duncan
08-11-2008, 09:14 PM
I like Duncans.

devilrob1979
08-11-2008, 10:25 PM
It is a perfect match for my neck through Carvin. I pulled EMGs out for this and an AlNiCo II Pro and they work quite well.

9fingers
08-11-2008, 10:44 PM
The CC is a wonderful smooth bridge pup, especailly for single note soloing. Real "flutey" and not at all spikey. Great for Slide!