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John Czajkowski
08-12-2008, 07:02 PM
Axe FX Demo - dueling Marshall Rigs

Here is my first foray into the nefarious Axe FX underworld. Thanks, Cliff; I am now fully corrupted. J I am quickly trying to program an Ultra unit to cover the guitar side of my sounds for the Hectic Watermelon Warped Tour gig – or other things were I doubt I will want to haul around my twin towers ego rig. In the process of building several parallel twin-amp rigs within the Axe FX, I have steadily begun to realize just how powerful Cliff’s machine is. Of course, it totally deals with all the Eclipse stuff, but I am really impressed with what a tweaker’s delight it is all throughout the amp modeling signal chain – from tone stack, to power amp, to speaker cabs to mic options. I’ve used or had every modeler or whatever since I first took a Zoom box with me to Desert Storm back in the day. Granted, I have had to tweak on the ultra for a few days to really feel comfortable, I now think I am there on quite a few rig simulations for most of my own music.

This first sample is to check that I have my classic Steve Morse type rhythm and lead sounds ready which I use on about three tunes. It uses one present that A/B’s with pedal 1 between a punchier medium gain JCM 800 and a slightly more saturated JCM 900. The rhythm is really dry and the lead always comes in with dual delay tempo mapped L and R with a quarter and dotted quarter. Pedal two adds a slightly modulated delay tot eh lead at 32 ms with no feedback, so it is more like a mild chorus. It also adds a little more delay. So, in summary this first preset I made is a rhythm/lead A/B with a B’ state. This is from my tune, “Steve’s Stunt Double” from my last album with Jerry Goodman, which really puts these types of tones through their paces as you are all over the guitar in all the flattering and unflattering tone zones. I’m curious to hear what you think.

AXE FX Clip:

http://users.bandzoogle.com/hecticwatermelon/files/AXEFX_clip_1_SSD.mp3

TAB:

http://users.bandzoogle.com/hecticwatermelon/files/Steve_sStuntDouble_Score_TAB.pdf

GAT
08-12-2008, 07:46 PM
Nice! It sound like the tones you normally get, maybe "cleaner", and I'm not talking about gain. It sounds very direct but real. No ambient artifacts are present. It would probably really sound great in a dense mix like you have on some of your songs. I like it, but I like everything you do!

John Czajkowski
08-12-2008, 09:55 PM
Thanks for checking it out. I think you and I are hearing this thing the same. I was really trying to get int hat same little happy modded Marshall place that the Egnaters go, but this isn't quite as brown. There actually is a "brown" tone stack, but I thought it would just be fun to take the 800 and 900 series models as far as I could get them to my happy place. I'm still getting used to the sound design on here too, so it will get more dialed with time.

GAT
08-12-2008, 10:01 PM
I think what is different is the interaction or amp/speakers/room/shear volume/etc.

I notice if I track in a control booth, the amps sound a bit different than if I'm in the room where the volume hits the guitar a bit. Not sure if this is making any sense. The Axe/fx sounds more like you are isolated from the amps with no other interactions from the other components.

It is very close though and for a fly-in date, quick studio thing, etc., it is a viable rig.

John Czajkowski
08-12-2008, 10:08 PM
I think what is different is the interaction or amp/speakers/room/shear volume/etc.

I notice if I track in a control booth, the amps sound a bit different than if I'm in the room where the volume hits the guitar a bit. Not sure if this is making any sense. The Axe/fx sounds more like you are isolated from the amps with no other interactions from the other components.

It is very close though and for a fly-in date, quick studio thing, etc., it is a viable rig.

Absolutely! I actually did record this under headphones pretty quickly without fussing with piping it back through a slave or anything. Just straight out of the box.