View Full Version : What Vintage Guitars are waiting for someone to make famous?
It's not that they are bad, they just haven't gotten any kind of respect due to lack of exposure and initial popularity. Look how long the Fender Bronco took to get credit before the Artic Monkeys finally blew that open. I'm not talking about a tiny boutique guitar no one has heard of - I mean a major company that made a concerted effort, but never made a long term impact...yet.
Below are my top three votes, and if you can name someone so famous that they already make these guitars a household desirable model, please correct me.
1) The Non-Reverse Firebird. Does this win, or what?
http://www.mansons.co.uk/shopping/images/items/1431/1431_1_large.jpg
2) Gibson L6S. Do you really think of Santana when you see this thing? Neither do I.
http://www.vintageguitars.org.uk/graphics/L6S-santana76S.jpg
3) Last but not least, the Fender TC-90. A modern "lost classic." Very good ideas all put together in a strange way.
http://www.computersunlimited.com/images_products/12500_big.jpg
avincent52`
08-22-2008, 02:21 PM
The Fender Coronado?
They actually sound very cool (I've got a minty Lake Placid Blue Coro II) and are much less likely to feed back on modern PAs (although I play mine at home.)
allen
The Fender Coronado?
They actually sound very cool (I've got a minty Lake Placid Blue Coro II) and are much less likely to feed back on modern PAs (although I play mine at home.)
allen
Nice call, especially the Wildwood ones! Dunno anyone famous using one!
http://pmblues.com/product_pics/791c.jpg
twferrill
08-22-2008, 02:44 PM
http://www.premierguitar.com/Stream/StreamImage.aspx?Mode=News&Image_ID=A4385B60-9627-46DA-880A-CEEB0B275C3B&Image_Type=image
Dear Mr. Fantasy
yellowecho
08-22-2008, 02:49 PM
The Fender Coronado?
They actually sound very cool (I've got a minty Lake Placid Blue Coro II) and are much less likely to feed back on modern PAs (although I play mine at home.)
jack white has been seen using them...
as has jonathan bates (mellowdrone) and the dude from the dandy warhols.
MBreinin
08-22-2008, 03:37 PM
Epiphone Coronet.
Epiphone Coronet.
Ah that's a good one. The LP Jr. gets all the glory, but this one has the guts too:
http://normansrareguitars.com/images/P/epi%20coronet%20f.jpg
MBreinin
08-22-2008, 03:52 PM
Ah that's a good one. The LP Jr. gets all the glory, but this one has the guts too:
http://normansrareguitars.com/images/P/epi%20coronet%20f.jpg
Well Steve Marriot played an earlier 3 on a side HS version in Humble Pie, and later Johnny Winter played a Crestwood, I think, the two mini-hum version...but I don't think anyone as of late has been out in the public eye with one. And yes, they scream just as hard as a Junior.
haslar
08-22-2008, 03:55 PM
jack white has been seen using them...
as has jonathan bates (mellowdrone) and the dude from the dandy warhols.
The guy from Clinic also.
duckbunny
08-22-2008, 04:01 PM
http://www.marcelroy.com/56_59/58dsimmac/58ds1.jpg
Duo-Sonics?
-db
Custom50
08-22-2008, 04:33 PM
The Fender Swinger/Musiclander/Arrow
http://www.abalonevintage.com/S.fender.musiclander.jpg
basically a chopped up musicmaster.
nmiller
08-22-2008, 04:36 PM
Anything by Guild, but especially the M-75.
http://www.gbase.com/files/store_images/carl/1830856/Photo2_cb7c2.jpg
MBreinin
08-22-2008, 04:36 PM
Pete Doherty, of the Libertines and Babyshambles, routinely plays a Coronet. It was his main go to guitar with the Libertines and he still brings it out for certain Babyshambles songs.
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/2910/petedohertyny2.th.jpg (http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?image=petedohertyny2.jpg)
Cool! I have heard of neither band, nor him, but cool nonetheless.
Mike
pir8matt
08-22-2008, 04:38 PM
Ampeg stud?
http://www.oldenburger-music-station.de/ampegsg.jpg
Granted, its just an SG ripoff, but you gotta look close!
seiko
08-22-2008, 04:39 PM
http://www.marcelroy.com/56_59/58dsimmac/58ds1.jpg
Duo-Sonics?
-db
Even without any star cache these seem to have lept in price over the last couple of years.
pir8matt
08-22-2008, 04:40 PM
The Peavey T-40 has been making a little comeback with some 'indie' bass players, but I haven't seen anyone making waves with the old T-60's yet.
http://gitar.hatarozo.hu/mods/block_art/images/3195843832_t-60-410.jpg
MBreinin
08-22-2008, 04:41 PM
Even without any star cache these seem to have lept in price over the last couple of years.
And Tomo is doing his best to make them famous. Didn't Johnny Lang play one when he was really young too?
Mike
MBreinin
08-22-2008, 04:42 PM
The Peavey T-40 has been making a little comeback with some 'indie' bass players, but I haven't seen anyone making waves with the old T-60's yet.
http://gitar.hatarozo.hu/mods/block_art/images/3195843832_t-60-410.jpg
Carl Perkins played them, I think. A friend had one of these, it played pretty well. However, it was so ugly I needed a six pack in me before I could touch it.
Mike
seiko
08-22-2008, 04:43 PM
Ovation Viper
http://http://www.chrisguitars.com/ova77viper-sb.jpg
3th3r
08-22-2008, 04:46 PM
Anything by Guild, but especially the M-75.
http://www.gbase.com/files/store_images/carl/1830856/Photo2_cb7c2.jpg
Brendan Benson, The Raconteurs:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/93/282900269_5466494653.jpg
pir8matt
08-22-2008, 04:55 PM
Anything by Guild, but especially the M-75.
http://www.gbase.com/files/store_images/carl/1830856/Photo2_cb7c2.jpg
Don't forget Kim Thayil!
http://web.stargate.net/soundgarden/images/thayil.jpg
uberpict
08-22-2008, 05:11 PM
Warren Haynes uses the non-reverse Firebird quite a bit, you can hear a lot of it on Gov't Mule albums. So I'll add a big +1 for that.
Hootad Binky
08-22-2008, 05:27 PM
http://www.maxmulti.com/images/melody_maker.jpg
Gibson Melody Maker - lots of people have played them, but none very 'famously" (Joan Jett?)
http://www.joness.com/gr300/pics/XJS/XJ-S-01.jpg
Roland guitars - this one looks a bit like a Tregan.
All the ones I used to own but have since sold off or traded for less than what I paid for it.
The Fender Swinger/Musiclander/Arrow
http://www.abalonevintage.com/S.fender.musiclander.jpg
basically a chopped up musicmaster.
Whoa. Now that's a good call.
http://www.abalonevintage.com/S.fender.musiclander.jpg
And might I add that just last year I would have said the semihollow Fender Starcaster but it seems to have taken off after Radiohead got a hold of it.
nmiller
08-22-2008, 05:49 PM
I also forgot the Kustom K-200 series:
http://www.broadwaymusicco.com/Kust003.jpg
jaxworlds
08-22-2008, 05:53 PM
here is my vote, it is a Gibson ES140T, look at this sweetheart.. I think Epiphone made it as a Sorrento.
http://s100.photobucket.com/albums/m4/jaxworlds_3/sunbursts/?action=view¤t=es140T.jpg
http://s100.photobucket.com/albums/m4/jaxworlds_3/sunbursts/?action=view¤t=es140T.jpg
kovachian
08-22-2008, 05:54 PM
How about some old Carvins? Maybe a DC150 or something?
No?
Ok nevermind.
soulohio
08-22-2008, 05:56 PM
It's not that they are bad, they just haven't gotten any kind of respect due to lack of exposure and initial popularity. Look how long the Fender Bronco took to get credit before the Artic Monkeys finally blew that open. I'm not talking about a tiny boutique guitar no one has heard of - I mean a major company that made a concerted effort, but never made a long term impact...yet.
Below are my top three votes, and if you can name someone so famous that they already make these guitars a household desirable model, please correct me.
1) The Non-Reverse Firebird. Does this win, or what?
Similar to=I have a Fender Toronado in sunburst...excellent guitar at a nice price. humbucker equipped, light and comfortable to wear and has a nice strat neck. thinking of selling it. the sunburst Toronados were the best.
3) Last but not least, the Fender TC-90. A modern "lost classic." Very good ideas all put together in a strange way.
http://www.computersunlimited.com/images_products/12500_big.jpg
I played one. Not a classic nor will it be one, in me opine. Didn't do enough of any one thing to make it memeorable and didn't sound or play so hot.
george4908
08-22-2008, 08:16 PM
http://www.jazzhouse.org/jpg/nart/last05/ClarenceGatemouthBrown_RAndrewLepley.jpg
Clarence "Gatemouth" Brown played the non-reverse Firebird.
http://jnjguitarcellar.com/images/Wanted/FramusNashville.jpg
Here's a candidate for discovery: Framus Nashville ('70s). Low on everybody's radar screen, but it was designed in consultation with Chet Atkins, used Bill Lawrence pickups, and was played by Peter Green for a while. That's not a bad pedigree. I used to have one. Fun guitar.
stratotonedude
08-22-2008, 08:29 PM
Gibson ES-325
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h54/roybrooks/IMG_0002-2.jpg
postalblowfish
08-22-2008, 08:30 PM
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f9/postalblowfish/del61.gif
Del played a Coronet,too,looks like.
How about this, a Fender Maverick? :
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f9/postalblowfish/fc.jpg
Bulldog
08-22-2008, 08:36 PM
The first thing that comes to mind:
http://www.vintageguitars.org.uk/graphics/starfire_range.jpg
Some famous players have used them: Jerry Garcia, Dave Davies, Greg Brown...
And yet, the value hasn't really gone up much. Gotta love the Guild mini-hums and the Guild logo Bigsbys! I'd love to get my hands on a III or V.
That Fender Maverick looks like a Fender XII had a baby with a Jazzmaster and got infected with the Jazz Bass disease. At this very moment, a hipster is looking for that thing on eBay!
jammybastard
08-22-2008, 09:05 PM
Noel Gallagher of Oasis made Epiphones fashionable in the 90's when he played Sheratons and Casinos (http://img.gkblogger.com/blog/imgdb/000/000/050/878_2.jpg).
Epiphone thanked him by making a Sig model that was overpriced and made in Korea (http://www.bbc.co.uk/manchester/content/image_galleries/031006_sounds_city_gallery.shtml?2),
:NUTS
Now he plays a full on vintage hollowbody Gibby.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/13/Noel_Gallagher3.jpg
BTW - got $20k?
You can bid on his iconic Union Jack Casino for charity...
http://www.childlinerocks.co.uk/images/auction/noel1.jpg
http://www.childlinerocks.co.uk/auction_items.htm
enocaster
08-22-2008, 09:09 PM
The Guild M-80
http://www.axguitars.com/pics/GM80/M80f.jpg
I have one of these and it's fantastic!
Dave Grohl talked up the RD for awhile, then moved on to every other obscure Gibson:
http://www.vintage-guitars.se/1977_Gibson_RD_Custom_72457025.jpg
The Guild SA 300A-D is neat, too:
http://www.rare-guitars.co.uk/guitars/GuildS300A-D/dave-hill-guild.jpg
MBreinin
08-22-2008, 10:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlrSwHHkCoc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5FqN59rfFI
Likely not to the taste of most TGP members, but at least it shows a Coronet in action, as well as a melody maker.
Not bad. Cool to see a Silver Fox like mine in action!
Mike
Bulldog
08-22-2008, 10:12 PM
Let's face it, Guild just made cool guitars... that for some reason, haven't gotten the press of Gibson or Fender.
Always loved the guild thunderbird... seriously, is there a cooler headstock?
http://www.guitarcrazy.com.au/GuildTBird1964.jpg
http://www.hermann-anschlag.de/index-Dateien/image132.jpg
http://www.wlof-channel95.com/camnitz/sp1big.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54PV2_b4-ow - And On TV!
Rumble
08-22-2008, 10:49 PM
The Martin electrics, coulda been a contender, but didn't get the love. I think the guy in Music Machine ('60s hit: Talk Talk) used one in photo ops, but never really played one. Seems like some guy a few years ago used one in a video. Here's my '66 GT-75 that I bought back in 1980, with stock DeArmonds and Bigsby. My plans for stardom with it didn't quite pan out...LOL
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/2614/martingt75ne2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
DrumBob
08-22-2008, 11:00 PM
Yes, anything by Guild is right. Guild electrics have always been "sleepers" on the collectible market, except for the S-200 Thunderbird and the M-75 Aristocrat/ Bluesbird, both of which fetch thousands now.
If I had dough to burn, I'd buy up a few old Guilds and stash them away. Guild Starfires are great guitars, equal on par with ES-335s. I even like that pointy thing, the X-79. It feels like it's made of balsa wood.
sleepingtiger
08-23-2008, 02:09 AM
The Gibson V2! A unique looking AND soundin guitar!
Mine is the one on the left(also pictured below), the one on the right belongs to someone else now....sigh....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/sleepingtiger/V2/43630014.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/sleepingtiger/V2/43630015.jpg
All they need is someone like Grohl to play one & WHAM!...instant reissue!
Tony
buchla300
08-23-2008, 02:13 AM
Gibson ES-330
DANOCASTER
08-23-2008, 02:19 AM
I vote Gibson Marauder :dude
Leonc
08-23-2008, 09:27 AM
Let's face it, Guild just made cool guitars... that for some reason, haven't gotten the press of Gibson or Fender.
Always loved the guild thunderbird... seriously, is there a cooler headstock?
http://www.guitarcrazy.com.au/GuildTBird1964.jpg
http://www.hermann-anschlag.de/index-Dateien/image132.jpg
http://www.wlof-channel95.com/camnitz/sp1big.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54PV2_b4-ow - And On TV!
And don't forget:
http://www.hotoke-blues.com/phtograph/electric/3.jpg
Some excellent footage here too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V25iA2XPzuA
dtube
08-23-2008, 10:50 AM
I think the early LP Classics, 90-92, are destined to leave the "player" category and take off. Right now, plaintops in good condition are routinely selling for $1300 or so on Ebate - Plus tops are $1500 or so. Those had the super-skinny neck and historic appointments. I have a 91 Plus that I absolutely love.
-Darren
Alvis
08-23-2008, 11:48 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/ayhcult/Saddam.jpg
Hootad Binky
08-23-2008, 12:19 PM
http://musicproducersforum.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/gibson-reverse-v-cropp.jpg
stratotonedude
08-23-2008, 01:18 PM
The Martin electrics, coulda been a contender, but didn't get the love. I think the guy in Music Machine ('60s hit: Talk Talk) used one in photo ops, but never really played one. Seems like some guy a few years ago used one in a video. Here's my '66 GT-75 that I bought back in 1980, with stock DeArmonds and Bigsby. My plans for stardom with it didn't quite pan out...LOL
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/2614/martingt75ne2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Johnny "Guitar" Watson used to play one of those.
stratotonedude
08-23-2008, 01:24 PM
Gibson ES-330
Slim Harpo, Grant Green. And for awhile one of the guitar players in Dream Syndicate played an ES-330.
buchla300
08-23-2008, 01:48 PM
http://musicproducersforum.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/gibson-reverse-v-cropp.jpg
Vintage? :crazyguy
Mattbedrock
08-23-2008, 05:01 PM
S1:
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj91/Mattbedrock/Marauder.jpg
Melody Maker:
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj91/Mattbedrock/MelodyMaker.jpg
Breadwinners & Deacons:
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj91/Mattbedrock/Ovations.jpg
RD's:
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj91/Mattbedrock/RDCustom.jpg
Corvus:
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj91/Mattbedrock/GibsonStrats-1.jpg
I've got more screwed up stuff without pictures: Marauders, L-6S, E2's. I love that stuff!
joe324
08-23-2008, 08:36 PM
Gibson ES-325
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h54/roybrooks/IMG_0002-2.jpg
Caleb Followill from Kings Of Leon.
http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/img/9/5/1/9/7609159.jpg
Guitarworks
08-23-2008, 09:38 PM
Epiphone Genesis!
How about 70s/early 80s Deans. Anybody remember this ad.....??????
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa146/b2sc/DeanAd.jpg
FloridaSam
08-23-2008, 10:18 PM
http://img109.mytextgraphics.com/photolava/2008/06/23/kramer2-4ay8o2ekv.jpeg
fender753
08-23-2008, 11:48 PM
http://www.marcelroy.com/56_59/58dsimmac/58ds1.jpg
Duo-Sonics?
-db
Tomo Fujita! :)
stratotonedude
08-24-2008, 12:42 AM
Caleb Followill from Kings Of Leon.
http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/img/9/5/1/9/7609159.jpg
Oh God, NOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!
Demioblue
08-24-2008, 10:57 PM
I'm still waiting for this model to take off in a BIG way!
http://www.keithrichards.com/desks/04.jpg
GibsonSGgirl
08-25-2008, 12:50 AM
I'm waiting to make the 1980 Gibson SG Standard and the 1988 Fender US '57 RI famous...it might take awhile tho, as I'm not in a band...
:BEER
violetlove
08-25-2008, 01:04 AM
And thus we see natural selcetion at work. It's not that the LP and Strat designs were known to be so good as they ewere conceived. They were known to be good as they stood teh test of time, and their malformed brothers fell by the wayside.
Hootad Binky
08-25-2008, 12:20 PM
What was that weird (12-string?) electric with the tiny body that Ric Ocasek used to play? I think Brian Jones also played one. haven't seen them in years and couldn't find a picture, either.
franksguitar
08-25-2008, 12:27 PM
Well Steve Marriot played an earlier 3 on a side HS version in Humble Pie, and later Johnny Winter played a Crestwood, I think, the two mini-hum version...but I don't think anyone as of late has been out in the public eye with one. And yes, they scream just as hard as a Junior.
If I'm not mistaken the late Rod Price of Foghat used one for slide.
franksguitar
08-25-2008, 12:28 PM
What was that weird (12-string?) electric with the tiny body that Ric Ocasek used to play? I think Brian Jones also played one. haven't seen them in years and couldn't find a picture, either.
A Vox.
hanleyk
08-25-2008, 01:48 PM
another vote for gibson marauder.
single coil - bridge. humbucker - neck.
i used to play one through a marshall 1ooW. unbelievable.
Custom50
08-25-2008, 11:43 PM
i too used to own a marauder, it was a great guitar. wish i still had it.
Rumble
08-26-2008, 01:16 AM
Johnny "Guitar" Watson used to play one of those.
Interesting. I don't know much about him, will have to give a listen to some of his works.
jeffwith1f
08-26-2008, 08:35 PM
The RD had it's day with Dave Ghrol already. Also I think I saw the guy in Crowned Kings playing one. If they went astronomical, I'd be good with that, because i have one, and paid not too much for it.
The Reverse V would be awesome as well. They have a vintage version as well. The original 400 from GOTW. it only took Gibson 200 days to reissue them. they are just that hot people.
finally. The Moderne. I so want someone to make that puppy famous. in fact..I want to make it famous. either way, mine will be worth more. Muahahaha!
http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/users16/jeffwith1f/default/WebTrioNaturals--large-msg-1197251193.jpg
sliberty
08-27-2008, 09:07 AM
Coronets rule. I have a 64. Steve Marriot of Humble Pie used to play a Dwight guitar, which was a private labeled Epiphone Coronet. It said Dwight on the 3x3 headstock, and there was a D on the pickguard. His tone on the Fillmore album is flawless.
Ah that's a good one. The LP Jr. gets all the glory, but this one has the guts too:
http://normansrareguitars.com/images/P/epi%20coronet%20f.jpg
Leonc
08-27-2008, 06:07 PM
Coronets rule. I have a 64. Steve Marriot of Humble Pie used to play a Dwight guitar, which was a private labeled Epiphone Coronet. It said Dwight on the 3x3 headstock, and there was a D on the pickguard. His tone on the Fillmore album is flawless.
Love my old Coronet (it happens to be a '61 3+3 model in cherry red). It's a little screamer fo sho! But my real secret weapon is the '65 Guild Thunderbird S200!
http://www.patchwerkz.com/leonsGear/guild65Thunderbird/Thunderbird2.jpg
I guess the recent "Billy Bo" has sort of similar aesthetics and I think there was actually an Asian reissue of this guitar (but with regular humbuckers and run of the mill hardware/wiring). Neither of those will deliver what this oddball does.
These guitars were really unique and amazingly usable. Don't be fooled by the bizzare "melted Hershey bar" look--the thing plays like a dream (neck feels like a late '50s LP Std) and the sounds are just fantastic. Those old, smallish Guild humbuckers are just chock full o tone! This thing will scream like a classic Les Paul, with all the mahogany/rosewood girth. But you can get very Gretschy-like sounds out of the bridge pickup too. They clean up great and have become some of my favorite sounding pickups.
Flip one switch and you can really attenuate the top end and get very old-school jazz sounds out of it. The guitar is balanced very well and extremely comfortable and easy to play, standing or sitting. Who'd a thunk it?
Bluedawg
08-27-2008, 06:18 PM
The RD had it's day with Dave Ghrol already. Also I think I saw the guy in Crowned Kings playing one. If they went astronomical, I'd be good with that, because i have one, and paid not too much for it.
The Reverse V would be awesome as well. They have a vintage version as well. The original 400 from GOTW. it only took Gibson 200 days to reissue them. they are just that hot people.
finally. The Moderne. I so want someone to make that puppy famous. in fact..I want to make it famous. either way, mine will be worth more. Muahahaha!
http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/users16/jeffwith1f/default/WebTrioNaturals--large-msg-1197251193.jpg
Another one for the RD here.
I still have my RD standard that my parents bought for me new.
:banana
Don Grafico
08-27-2008, 07:22 PM
Even without any star cache these seem to have lept in price over the last couple of years.
http://fenderduosonic.blogspot.com/2008/04/famous-fender-duosonic-players.html
Don Grafico
08-27-2008, 07:25 PM
[QUOTE=Hootad Binky;4624564]http://www.maxmulti.com/images/melody_maker.jpg
Gibson Melody Maker - lots of people have played them, but none very 'famously" (Joan Jett?)
Pat Travers.
Don Grafico
08-27-2008, 07:28 PM
Gibson ES-330
Grant Green.
Don Grafico
08-27-2008, 07:29 PM
I vote Gibson Marauder :dude
Paul Stanley.
http://fenderduosonic.blogspot.com/2008/04/famous-fender-duosonic-players.html
Good call on that one. I reckon more than one slacker has drooled over what's wrapped around that Duo-Sonic.
http://www.rockinpa.com/images/auto_liz_phair.jpg
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