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ROTHNROLL
08-30-2008, 11:39 AM
Ok here is the deal
I am having problems wiring my guitar. I think this has to do with the fact that Dimarzio has 4 conductor wiring...
I ordered a ACME prewired Telecaster assembly with quick connects
The pickups I got from them were
1. Tone Zone T In Bridge
2. Area T in Neck
They wired up the pickups and control plate so that all I would have to do is to connect them and they would be good to go.
The thing is, it took them about 4 months to send me the pickups and control plate.
By the time I got them- I forgot what switching I had ordered.
All the receipt says is (custom wiring)
I tried to contact them on multiple occasions and couldn't reach anyone via email.
To top things off, I don't have any of the paperwork that usually comes with the pickups- installation and notes.
Here is what I believe I got
4 way tele wiring (it has a 4 way switch)
The bottom tone knob has a push pull as a kill switch. Pull up - tone dies
I can't remember if I ordered reverse controls.. but apparently i didn't because they only left me a few inches of wire to connect to the output jack.
They included and wired the output jack as well.
I painted the cavities with copper paint and used some copper tape to make sure that the bridge, pickguard and control plate came into contact with the shelding and connected a wire between the channels of the neck pickup hole and the control plate hole.
The tele does not work when i connect the colorcoded wires to eachother. It is operating at about 30% volume and sounds awful and the controls don't seem to work properly. (Yes I adjusted the pickup height)
I looked on the Dimarzio website and couldn't figure out what my problem is. Their directions do not mention the grey wire
I have loooked here
http://www.acmeguitarworks.com/pdf/WiringDiagram_Tele_4-Way.pdf
At acme's wiring of a 4 way to also see what is up.
Please take a look at these pictures and help me out.
I do know how to solder and am not afraid to do it.
NECK PICKUP Area T - with red- grey and red wires
http://www.thefretshack.com/wirin/2.jpg
NECK PICKUP wires protruding into control cavity
http://www.thefretshack.com/wirin/1.jpg
Bridge Pickup
http://www.thefretshack.com/wirin/4.jpg
Bridge Pickup Wires in control cavity
http://www.thefretshack.com/wirin/10.jpg
Bridge Pickup wires into control cavity
http://www.thefretshack.com/wirin/11.jpg
Control plate
http://www.thefretshack.com/wirin/5.jpg
Control Plate
http://www.thefretshack.com/wirin/6.jpg
Grounded wires
http://www.thefretshack.com/wirin/7.jpg
4 Way Switch
http://www.thefretshack.com/wirin/8.jpg
Tone pot with push pull thing a ma jig
http://www.thefretshack.com/wirin/9.jpg

Ok here are a few thoughts..
When I switched my nocaster to 4 way I remember soldering a ground wire to the volume pot and cutting a wire on the back of the pickup.
1. Do you have to do that with the Area T's?
I don't see a wire to cut. I am thinking that is what the grey wire is the ground for the neck pickup?
2. How does the bridge get grounded?
3. What wires go where?

MY INTERPERATION OF THE WIRING
http://www.thefretshack.com/wirin/12.jpg
MY INTERPERATION OF THE WIRING
http://www.thefretshack.com/wirin/13.jpg
I am basing this on the acme 4 way wiring
http://www.acmeguitarworks.com/pdf/WiringDiagram_Tele_4-Way.pdf
If I follow that schematic - their colorcoded system does not work.
I tried it in a few different combo's and no luck.

testing1two
08-30-2008, 02:27 PM
The DiMarzio website says that because of the way the Area pickups cancel hum, parallel wiring (position 4 on your tele 4-way) is not advisable. http://dimarzio.com/site/#/pickups/ (look up the Area T and then open the Basic Virtual Vintage wiring diagram)

That being said, you can always use the 4th position to add a different tone cap or to split one or both of the pickups into true single coil mode.

ROTHNROLL
08-30-2008, 04:33 PM
Still, the other 3 postitions should work correctly.. right?
I am having problems in every position..

RvChevron
08-30-2008, 04:56 PM
The DiMarzio website says that because of the way the Area pickups cancel hum, parallel wiring (position 4 on your tele 4-way) is not advisable. http://dimarzio.com/site/#/pickups/ (look up the Area T and then open the Basic Virtual Vintage wiring diagram)

That being said, you can always use the 4th position to add a different tone cap or to split one or both of the pickups into true single coil mode.


What parallel wiring? The stacked coil pickup itself or two pickups together? Most 4 way switch wiring would have the neck and bridge pickup wired in parallel together in one of the positions.

RvChevron
08-30-2008, 04:57 PM
Still, the other 3 postitions should work correctly.. right?
I am having problems in every position..

Can you describe the problems?

I think this belongs to the Guitar Tech section.

RussB
08-30-2008, 05:32 PM
When someone has an issue with a the manufacturer of a product, said person should first deal DIRECTLY with the manufacturer of the product.

Best of luck with your problems