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jimfog
09-09-2008, 12:32 AM
Well.......they may have closed the last two....but you can't a good bowling shirt wearing, middle-aged white guy down.

Long Live the Mighty Fart Tone!!!

:dude

Goldie295
09-09-2008, 02:41 AM
This is Phil checking in...

The thread has been a little slow of late so maybe this will give it a post holiday boost.

One question (a generalisation I know...but): Why do harp players always want to do everything 'just like the record'?

Anyone else have any experience of this? (Not necessarily with Harp players)

I have been thinking about this a lot recently. Maybe you guys have long since trod this journey (I is but a lad you see), but I have decided from here on in I am only going to produce music my way - without compromise - no matter what the instrument no matter what the music genre. No more clever Jr lick here or cutting Freddie lick there. Just me in all my (non) glory. I have decided to become an honest musician.

So here is a +1 to honesty in music and its performance.

Cheers,
Phil

bluesjuke
09-09-2008, 03:27 AM
Alright, found you guys right away!

stratotonedude
09-09-2008, 04:33 AM
What I want to know is why there isn't an east coast blues thread.

groove_king
09-09-2008, 04:40 AM
WTF! What happened to V2.0? Please tell me it's archived somewhere ..

groove_king
09-09-2008, 04:43 AM
Never mind .. found the reason. Phew!

pete kanaras
09-09-2008, 08:05 AM
Why do harp players always want to do everything 'just like the record'?

Anyone else have any experience of this? (Not necessarily with Harp players)


don't get me started....

more seriously, when you're starting out most trad minded players have to ape, it's simply part of the learning process. you're trying to get next to something, so you take/borrow/steal from the guys who created the stuff in the first place. i certainly did. for me, you have to know the history of your instrument in the bag you choose to play, be it blues, bluegrass, jazz or country. but at some point you realize that #1 you'll never be a pimple on your hero's ass, and #2 what drew you to them in the first place was their individual style; their originality and passion within the idiom.

Just me in all my (non) glory. I have decided to become an honest musician

yeah, that is where it's at in my opinion. learn your lessons, then be yourself. and it's not easy. a lot of trad musicians never realize that. it's like the old tommy tedesco joke. tommy was a legendary L.A. studio rat, completely unknown to joe q public. a very funny, wise man. he was in session once with duane eddy, whom he adored. duane was packing up to leave and tommy goes "hey duane, one more thing". yes tommy? "hey umm, has anyone ever asked you to play like me?"

Strat-O
09-09-2008, 08:08 AM
Why do harp players always want to do everything 'just like the record'?

Anyone else have any experience of this? (Not necessarily with Harp players)


don't get me started....

more seriously, when you're starting out most trad minded players have to ape, it's simply part of the learning process. you're trying to get next to something, so you take/borrow/steal from the guys who created the stuff in the first place. i certainly did. for me, you have to know the history of your instrument in the bag you choose to play, be it blues, bluegrass, jazz or country. but at some point you realize that #1 you'll never be a pimple on your hero's ass, and #2 what drew you to them in the first place was their individual style; their originality and passion within the idiom.

Just me in all my (non) glory. I have decided to become an honest musician

yeah, that is where it's at in my opinion. learn your lessons, then be yourself. and it's not easy. a lot of trad musicians never realize that. it's like the old tommy tedesco joke. tommy was a legendary L.A. studio rat, completely unknown to joe q public. a very funny, wise man. he was in session once with duane eddy, whom he adored. duane was packing up to leave and tommy goes "hey duane, one more thing". yes tommy? "hey umm, has anyone ever asked you to play like me?"

Very well stated.

btg
09-09-2008, 11:52 AM
Speaking of harp players - has anyone checked out the new Rick Estrin solo disc. Charlie has it listed on his site.

stratotonedude
09-09-2008, 11:59 AM
Teh east coast blues thread- why isn't there one?

valcotone
09-09-2008, 12:14 PM
stratotonedude... waaaaay back in 2003, the original version of this thread was started to discuss the west coast blue style not necessarily blues from artists originating from the west coast. It's since expanded and evolved since then as contributors come and go...

saggybottom
09-09-2008, 12:36 PM
Some of Rick Estrins new stuff

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v6817679sN35Xqd5

KBR
09-09-2008, 12:51 PM
Jeanette sent me some William Clarke cds, and all 5 are Great!

pick some up, Big Bill was My Man.

JamminJeff
09-09-2008, 01:10 PM
"One question (a generalisation I know...but): Why do harp players always want to do everything 'just like the record'?"

"Anyone else have any experience of this? (Not necessarily with Harp players)"
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________

There are a variety of musicians who process music differently and to me it seems like a majority need a road map for comfort sakes. Be it charts, tab or note-for-note covers, the later being the least enjoyable.

The minority then seems to be the risk takers and I place myself in that category, but this is coming from a guitarist who enjoys exploration. When out past my natural and/or current level of playing, I find growth from it that is then added to my skill set. This is not a natural thing for most musicians to embrace but it's where great things sometimes happen. Also nasty sounding things happen too. "Don't fear it" is my motto.

Harp players are very attached to a progression and are limited by what key their harp is in VS the arrrangement's key. (A good harp player can explain this better). Having numerous harps for key changes is burden if you ask me so maybe they have limits that other instruments do not plus it is most a lead instrument, like sax for example, with less range. Meaning, most harp players tend to play in the upper registers to penetrate the mix, be heard, etc.

Goldie295
09-09-2008, 01:23 PM
Mad Costello vid HERE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1YdwTkwJkM&feature=related)

That guy could play anything. What a crazy solo. Right from that opening lick at 1.10. Mad man stuff. I bet he was really pissed (English expression meaning 'drunk' not 'fed up'). There is a moment in that solo when he seems to go from Cropper to Martino to Gatton to Collins all in one lick.

I'm not saying its great - and it certainly ain't West Coast - but it's definitely not to be missed !!

Cheers,
Phil

Poppa Stoppa
09-09-2008, 04:48 PM
One question (a generalisation I know...but): Why do harp players always want to do everything 'just like the record'?I know where you're coming from Phil...but in favour of this approach I will say this, and it applies to any instrument...the great players are on a different plane, and play with power and authority that many of us can only dream of approaching. When another player transcribes a great solo, and learns it deep, and can deliver it live with conviction, it really touches people. The difference in audience reaction can be amazing.

S.W.Erdnase
09-09-2008, 05:08 PM
Harp players are very attached to a progression and are limited by what key their harp is in VS the arrrangement's key. (A good harp player can explain this better). Having numerous harps for key changes is burden if you ask me so maybe they have limits that other instruments do not plus it is most a lead instrument, like sax for example, with less range. Meaning, most harp players tend to play in the upper registers to penetrate the mix, be heard, etc.

Sigh.

jimfog
09-09-2008, 05:19 PM
When another player transcribes a great solo, and learns it deep, and can deliver it live with conviction, it really touches people.

If you're going to go to all that effort, why not take the FLAVOR of someone else's thing and create your own, fresh and in the moment?

The last thing I want to hear, in any blues context, is a note for note ape-ing.

A brief homage or quote? Sure.

An entire lifted solo?

I'd rather buy the original.

stratotonedude
09-09-2008, 05:37 PM
stratotonedude... waaaaay back in 2003, the original version of this thread was started to discuss the west coast blue style not necessarily blues from artists originating from the west coast. It's since expanded and evolved since then as contributors come and go...

Now I understand.

TwoFeets
09-09-2008, 07:20 PM
I figure I'll check in here too.

Funny thing is I always quick-indexed this thread by looking at the thread count. Guess I gotta bookmark this one!

mr tom
09-10-2008, 12:20 AM
Speaking of harp players - has anyone checked out the new Rick Estrin solo disc. Charlie has it listed on his site.

My copy arrived today from Bluebeat, spinning it now. Rick's not my favorite singer, but he ain't bad, and he can blow! He's got Kid Andersen and Rusty on guitar duties, with Ronnie James on bass. Seventeen tracks, including several covers from Sonny Boy II; also Muddy, Sonny Boy I, Big Boy Spires, Little Walter, and Eddie Burns, and "Harlem Nocturne". Eight originals - "Blues for Doe" is as LOW, LOW, LOW DOWN as Little Walter's "Blue Lights," and how can you go wrong with a greasy slice of wah funk titled "Porn Bred"?!

Verdict: It's tuff.

hahpin
09-10-2008, 01:21 PM
Why do harp players always want to do everything 'just like the record'?


As a harp player I can only attest to my learning methods. I had a good music teacher in high school who insisted that learning the music as recorded first opened up avenues for inserting one's own style later.
I think that most harp players are lazy, they do not take the time to learn how to play it as a musical instrument. Since diatonic harps are limited to whatever few variations of keys available on each particular harmonica, they limit themselves to learning only "cross" position and switch harps for different keys. Many do not know any (or little) music theory, as the nature of the beast requires less of that knowledge than just about any other musical instrument that can play all of the keys. How many harmonica players know about the natural minor in every diatonic harp?

Not to belittle the accomplished players , who given just a couple of harps can manage to play in most keys. One of Mark Hummel's instructions is to learn the same lick (exact same notes) on different harps in different positions on the harmonica.

I think that developing one's own style evolves from hours upon hours of learning from the masters (sometime note for note) and uniquely molding pieces from what you know into your own phrasing. When someone (usually harp players) tell me that they have 'their own style" it usually means they can't play worth a damn and never really get it.

Harold

Dave Orban
09-10-2008, 01:36 PM
My copy arrived today from Bluebeat, spinning it now. Rick's not my favorite singer, but he ain't bad, and he can blow! He's got Kid Andersen and Rusty on guitar duties, with Ronnie James on bass. Seventeen tracks, including several covers from Sonny Boy II; also Muddy, Sonny Boy I, Big Boy Spires, Little Walter, and Eddie Burns, and "Harlem Nocturne". Eight originals - "Blues for Doe" is as LOW, LOW, LOW DOWN as Little Walter's "Blue Lights," and how can you go wrong with a greasy slice of wah funk titled "Porn Bred"?!

Verdict: It's tuff.Speaking of Charlie Baty, I just stumbled across this article from a July issue of the Sacramento Bee (http://www.sacbee.com/music/v-print/story/1088556.html):

'Little Charlie' Baty follows his gypsy muse

By Jim Carnes - jcarnes@sacbee.com (jcarnes@sacbee.com)
Published 12:00 am PDT Friday, July 18, 2008

Charlie Baty didn't intend to make the world premiere of his new band the Little Charlie Caravan in Sacramento. At least not now.

But come 7 p.m. Sunday, that's just what will happen. Baty, the great guitarist who gave his name, talent – and organizational skills – to Little Charlie & the Nightcats for more than 30 years, will take the stage at Harlow's with three new accompanists: guitarist Jason Vanderford (one of the rhythm guitarists in the Hot Club of San Francisco); banjo, guitar, saw, accordion, etc., player Bob Armstrong (a founding member of the Cheap Suit Serenaders); and Keith Cary, master of the string bass, cello, mandolin, banjo and more.

The Caravan came together out of regular Tuesday afternoon jams at his home in Davis, Baty said on the phone the other day.

"I just sort of got to the point that I couldn't do the nonstop touring (with the Nightcats) anymore," he said. "First, I was calling it a retirement. Now it's more like semi-retirement, or waiting for something to come along."

That "something" was Mindy Giles of Swell Productions, who persuaded Baty that opening for jazz singer Catherine Russell at Harlow's was the perfect way to reintroduce himself to Sacramentans after his six-month break from the Nightcats.

As the new band's name suggests, the Little Charlie Caravan plays gypsy music – gypsy jazz, gypsy swing and gypsy blues – in the same approach to the music once taken by jazz icon Django Reinhardt.

"One of the things I've done all along is pursue other musical interests and try to force them into the Nightcats, or book myself as a solo act in different spots," Baty said.

"Well, I really got into the music of Django Reinhardt – (Reinhardt, who played violin, guitar and banjo, was born in Belgium in 1910 and mostly grew up in gypsy camps outside Paris. He died of a brain hemorrhage in Paris in 1953.) – "and I realized if I wanted to learn to play in the gypsy style, it was going to take more time than I had with the band."

When the road became too much for him – "In a way, I've been living life like a gypsy for half my life," he said – he parted with his friend Rick Estrin (harmonica player, singer, songwriter and front man of the Nightcats) and "retired" from a more-than-30-year gig to his home in Davis.

He didn't retire from music, however. And he finally had the opportunity to really explore gypsy jazz. He invited musicians to drop by his house to "play."

"When I started the Tuesday get-togethers, we'd play songs from that era, with that influence," he said. "I enjoyed the people that I played with. There's a camaraderie among musicians. It's all about this community of music and music makers. And there's a lot of beauty in the stripped-down setting of the gypsy music."

"I'm at the very beginner status in gypsy jazz," Baty said. "What I want to do is to play what I hear and to make it accessible to a new audience. It's more a different approach than anything else.

"I see every night as making new music because I don't know what I'm going to play or how it's going to work. Every time you play a song, you learn something new.

"It's all beautiful music."

###

RickyKing
09-11-2008, 12:05 PM
Hey,I found you!
Alright!

Schwalbe
09-11-2008, 09:01 PM
If you're going to go to all that effort, why not take the FLAVOR of someone else's thing and create your own, fresh and in the moment?

The last thing I want to hear, in any blues context, is a note for note ape-ing.

A brief homage or quote? Sure.

An entire lifted solo?

I'd rather buy the original.

+1 with the exception of some instrumentals. I'll stick pretty much to Freddie's original version of Hideaway, provided I can remember it all in order. I try to do the same when backing a harp player on Shake Dancer, again if I can remember all parts in order. But that's about it. I intentionally avoid learning a borrowed riff in it's entirety. I prefer to fill in some parts with my own ideas.

Swingblues
09-12-2008, 03:44 PM
Mark Hummel in Brazil, last month (August 2008):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIMLCjjqknQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Qv1OkTF9K0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAeSusXppSo


ALL THE BEST!
IGOR PRADO

jumpnblues
09-12-2008, 04:41 PM
Anyone know the name of the new Rick Estrin CD?


Tom

Schwalbe
09-12-2008, 05:11 PM
This one?
http://tinyurl.com/3fw483

http://www.bluebeatmusic.com/images/rickestrinharpside.jpg

mr tom
09-12-2008, 07:05 PM
This one?
http://tinyurl.com/3fw483

http://www.bluebeatmusic.com/images/rickestrinharpside.jpg
You got it!

jumpnblues
09-12-2008, 09:10 PM
Thanks Schwalbe and Tom.


Tom

Poppa Stoppa
09-13-2008, 05:56 AM
Here's a guy whose licks I'm happy to cop note for note: Alex Schultz with Finis Tasby.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Kq7FmuYX_E

jumpnblues
09-13-2008, 10:44 AM
Here's a guy whose licks I'm happy to cop note for note: Alex Schultz with Finis Tasby.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Kq7FmuYX_E


Yeah man. Wish he'd put out another solo CD. The last one was everything you'd expect from Alex and then some. He's the epitome of the consummate blues player. He has it all.


Tom

jumpnblues
09-13-2008, 10:56 AM
Mark Hummel in Brazil, last month (August 2008):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIMLCjjqknQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Qv1OkTF9K0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAeSusXppSo


ALL THE BEST!
IGOR PRADO



As good as it gets.


Tom

Schwalbe
09-13-2008, 11:57 PM
Does this require a comment?

http://www.whatsontv.co.uk/youtube/search/walker/video/pFqK6PBq-hA/1

bluesjuke
09-14-2008, 12:46 PM
T Bone is always a pleasure to wake up to!

jumpnblues
09-14-2008, 07:38 PM
Just a heads up in case anyone's interested...there's a Victoria Bassman with 2x12s for sale in the Amp Emporium for $1350. That's a lotta' amp for the money. As good as a Tweed Twin. No connection. Just thought it sounded like a pretty decent deal.


Tom

Millo 3.1
09-14-2008, 08:24 PM
I thought this was about the Wes Montgomery tune West Coast Blues.

Schwalbe
09-15-2008, 03:48 PM
I thought this was about the Wes Montgomery tune West Coast Blues.
Nah, cool tune though. Although, a lot of that songs ideas can and are incorporated into the style.

Schwalbe
09-15-2008, 03:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbuRMYi2F6Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZXIMY9zLaI&feature=related

Strat-O
09-15-2008, 07:45 PM
Mark Hummel in Brazil, last month (August 2008):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIMLCjjqknQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Qv1OkTF9K0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAeSusXppSo


ALL THE BEST!
IGOR PRADO


Nice! What's your amp rig? Pro Jr with 2x12 extension cabinet? Where that reverb coming from?

:huh

glblues
09-16-2008, 11:22 AM
not west coast at all, but i just discovered LaVern Baker. What a voice! she's going to be in my ipod for a long while

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV5m9A388HA

Swingblues
09-16-2008, 12:29 PM
Hey Strat-o,

In this gigs I used 2 amps, 1 pro junior w/ external cab (2 webers 12´) and 1 Marshall Bluesbreaker Clone, both with Spring King Reverb.

Next week I will posted more videos with this Bluesbreaker clone, I like very much this guy.
I buy one Twin Tweed Reissue and Im waiting my friend bring this amp from California.

All the best
Igor Prado

KBR
09-16-2008, 12:36 PM
Igor,

a Tweed Twin Reissue should be good. I had a 59 original, but sold it (bad move about 12 years ago) I use 2 weber P12N's (12A150's) speakers, these are close to the Twin's in the 59.
No matter what Head I use they kick ass and will keep up with 4x10 Super Reverb's or Bassman's. Ted Weber Alnico P12Ns are the Best I ever used in 45 years of using Amps.

all the Best,

http://www.myspace.com/kennyblueray

TwoFeets
09-16-2008, 01:23 PM
not west coast at all, but i just discovered LaVern Baker. What a voice! she's going to be in my ipod for a long while

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV5m9A388HA

Ooh-wee, we used to do Jim Dandy, Tweedle Dee, her version of CC Rider... we had this girl singer who could really belt that stuff out. Love me some LaVern Baker.

musicofanatic5
09-18-2008, 03:45 PM
Wow, version three, I wonder what happened, or maybe I don't wanna know...
Seems slow here; maybe others, like me, found better use of their time??
I've been out travelling for several weeks, and to recuperate, intend to do nothing for a while; this fills the bill!
Always said for years, "Sure wish I'd seen T-Bone"; this desire beginning in the pre-video/internet/etc. days. Now I delight in any video available. Whatta face on that guy! And I always wonder what happened to that ES-5? Stolen in France in 1969, where is it; who has it?? Could there be any joy in owning it (or, f'rinstance, a stolen Picasso?) if you can't tell anyone or show it in public?
Wes' "WCB": There are some great alternate 12-bar blues changes there that any forward looking WCB gtrist would do well to examine and incorporate. We get into some of those changes with Duke.
Estrin? You mean SonnyBoyIII?!? He's gotta be prima-epitoma out there these days. And a real entertainer. Listening to him I came to the realization that the harmonica is basically a producer of "sound effects" (not to say that the gtr isn't also), and Rick makes the best damn "sound effects" of all of 'em! I look forward to anything new from Chuck Baty, too. He seems to have become more of a warm, happy human in recent years, and that's gotta come out in his artistic output. A driven genius!
Gear-wise, my focus for the rest of this year is gonna be liquidation. I've spent most of my years buyin' sh*t, and now it's time to sell some sh*t (how many two-bedroom apt dwellers in their right mind would own 3 1/2 upright basses?!?!). Watch the selling page here or "musicofanatic" on ebay for some "everything must go" deals!
Cheers, fellas, and anyone attending a D. Robillard show, please come up and say hi (I'll be the one with the "largest inst in the band"!).

Schwalbe
09-18-2008, 06:08 PM
Wow, version three, I wonder what happened, or maybe I don't wanna know...
Seems slow here; maybe others, like me, found better use of their time??
I've been out travelling for several weeks, and to recuperate, intend to do nothing for a while; this fills the bill!
Always said for years, "Sure wish I'd seen T-Bone"; this desire beginning in the pre-video/internet/etc. days. Now I delight in any video available. Whatta face on that guy! And I always wonder what happened to that ES-5? Stolen in France in 1969, where is it; who has it?? Could there be any joy in owning it (or, f'rinstance, a stolen Picasso?) if you can't tell anyone or show it in public?
Wes' "WCB": There are some great alternate 12-bar blues changes there that any forward looking WCB gtrist would do well to examine and incorporate. We get into some of those changes with Duke.
Estrin? You mean SonnyBoyIII?!? He's gotta be prima-epitoma out there these days. And a real entertainer. Listening to him I came to the realization that the harmonica is basically a producer of "sound effects" (not to say that the gtr isn't also), and Rick makes the best damn "sound effects" of all of 'em! I look forward to anything new from Chuck Baty, too. He seems to have become more of a warm, happy human in recent years, and that's gotta come out in his artistic output. A driven genius!
Gear-wise, my focus for the rest of this year is gonna be liquidation. I've spent most of my years buyin' sh*t, and now it's time to sell some sh*t (how many two-bedroom apt dwellers in their right mind would own 3 1/2 upright basses?!?!). Watch the selling page here or "musicofanatic" on ebay for some "everything must go" deals!
Cheers, fellas, and anyone attending a D. Robillard show, please come up and say hi (I'll be the one with the "largest inst in the band"!).
Hi Jon. Welcome back.

aja
09-21-2008, 10:57 AM
Hey guys checking in for version 3. Whats up ?

Dave Orban
09-21-2008, 11:24 AM
Not much, apparently... :jo

straightblues
09-21-2008, 12:52 PM
I gots me a 1960 Silvertone (Danelectro) U1 with the dophin head. Man does this thing get some great blues tones. I had one of the resissues and thought it was pretty nice, but these orginal Danelectros are the shit. I can't believe how long it took me to discover one of these even though I have seen them played through the years. Yes they are masonite and yes they were sold through a department store, but dammmm they get great tone.

musicofanatic5
09-21-2008, 01:17 PM
Yeah, Dano mania!! I recently got a sixties, 15-fret, short-scale bass, and it's a killer. Properly manipulated and with those black plastic wound strings, it gets as close to an upright sound and feel as any elec bass I've heard. This stubby, lightweight, easy-to-tote mutha will go to all of the "can't bring an upright" gigs!

hasserl
09-21-2008, 11:45 PM
Straightblues, I got an old Dano Convertible, a hollow body with a round sound hole and a single lipstick pickup in the center of the sound hole. It is a great sounding axe! It sits on a stand next to my desk so it's always at hand to pick it up and jam, even unplugged it sounds great.

KBR
09-22-2008, 12:14 AM
I learned on a 59 Dano and should have kept it.

mrkenny
09-22-2008, 07:45 AM
** RARE ** GOLD 1955 Silvertone Danelectro U-2 guitar - eBay (item 33026436903 (http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-GOLD-1955-Silvertone-Danelectro-U-2-guitar_W0QQitemZ330264369038QQcmdZViewItem?hash=it em330264369038&_trkparms=39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A3%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14)

Great score for this guy, it didn't last long.

pete kanaras
09-22-2008, 08:44 AM
love danos! i'm in the process of converting a reissue U2 into a freakanoid roots machine: the body has been routed for a pair of 60's teisco square magnet (ry cooder) pups. it'll be wired like a real dano with series wiring in the middle, 2 volume/1 tone with the tone being a p/p for phase. maybe a bigsby too if it can be done w/o a lot of fuss. i've always wanted a very light, mostly hollow axe with really fat single coil tone that will fit into a double gig bag along with a strat or tele. i'll post pics somewhere when i'm done

RickyKing
09-22-2008, 09:08 AM
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=346391459

Love Dano's!! Sometimes I think that if I only could do one guitar,the Dano in this video would be it. Click the Grog clip.

Glad to hear from you John!

Thinsocks
09-22-2008, 12:36 PM
I have a old '56 U-1 that I bought on Ebay a few years back for slightly under $300 bucks. It came with the original coffin tweed case too. Here's a picture of it with a rare '54 (or '55) Dano made Silvertone I once owned. I pretty sure it's the first model guitar the Dano company tried to make.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/frankiethetut/DANOSILVERTONE.jpg

Poppa Stoppa
09-22-2008, 02:03 PM
OK - now we're talking Danos, I have two hershey bar pickups I bought on a Silvertone frame. The question is, do I put 'em on an Airline H44 I've got, or on my Dano U2 reissue? The Dano is by far the nicer player but the pickups aren't really great.

(btw NICE PIC Thinsocks)

Schwalbe
09-22-2008, 02:42 PM
OK - now we're talking Danos, I have two hershey bar pickups I bought on a Silvertone frame. The question is, do I put 'em on an Airline H44 I've got, or on my Dano U2 reissue? The Dano is by far the nicer player but the pickups aren't really great.

(btw NICE PIC Thinsocks)
Hmmm, I vote for the H44. You can get booteek lipsticks for the RI Dano. Just MHO, ymmv, etc..

Speaking of pick ups, the Seth's in my H535 are just to plain and polite. I'm thinking about Fralin P-92's. Any other 'Buckers you guys like?

valcotone
09-22-2008, 02:55 PM
Dan... I have 2 humbucker guitars (both MIJ Gibson copies) and I really like the Wolfetone (http://www.wolfetone.com/productsandpricing.html) pickups. I have a set of Marshallheads in my Orville LP and the Dr. Vintage set in my Edwards 335. Nice full and rich and vintage sounding pickups, and not the mid-range mess that existed in the stock pickups. The Marshallheads have a little more output than the Dr.V.

straightblues
09-22-2008, 11:10 PM
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=346391459

Love Dano's!! Sometimes I think that if I only could do one guitar,the Dano in this video would be it. Click the Grog clip.

Glad to hear from you John!
I saw some of your Dano clips awhile back. They inspired me to go out and get a vintage Dano. Thanks a lot!!!

RickyKing
09-23-2008, 08:14 AM
I saw some of your Dano clips awhile back. They inspired me to go out and get a vintage Dano. Thanks a lot!!!
Excellent!! Hope you're diggin' the Dano!

Goldie295
09-24-2008, 04:05 AM
I'm thinking of having a Fender Super 5F4 built. Just wondering if anyone can give me some advice re speakers or any mods that might be worth considering?

For speakers, I was thinking of going for something by Weber. Maybe ceramics. But I am open to suggestions.

Cheers,
Phil

groove_king
09-24-2008, 05:17 AM
Hi Phil. You'll prolly get a lot of advice on speakers, so here's my 2 bobs worth: When I think of the classic tweed designs, I think alnico speakers. Ceramic speakers belong in the later 60s designs. Of course, there's no reason why you couldn't put a ceramic in a tweed, but have a think about what you are after tone-wise. If it's the classic, vintage sound, then I think alnicos are the way to go. Ceramic speakers will prolly give you more clean headroom. Have a chat with Ted Weber. He's the shizznit as far as speaker stuff goes.

Also, S.W.Erdnase might chime in - he has a 5F4 with Weber alnicos in it. Mind you, he's a harp player, so I apologise in advance for his drunken ramblings.

Poppa Stoppa
09-24-2008, 06:00 AM
also, s.w.erdnase might chime in - he has a 5f4 with weber alnicos in it. Mind you, he's a harp player, so i apologise in advance for his drunken ramblings.:d:d:d

S.W.Erdnase
09-24-2008, 07:01 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab8ORfjHvpM

AlNiCo, baby, Al-Ni-Co.

Schwalbe
09-24-2008, 08:09 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab8ORfjHvpM

AlNiCo, baby, Al-Ni-Co.
Dang I like that clip!
I built a Weber 5F4 for a buddy. He went with the stock AlNiCo Sig 10's and it sounds great.
Figure out what sound you want and look over Ted's offerings.
I've always thought a 10A100 and 10F150 combined would be interesting, early break and big low end. Just MHO of course.

KBR
09-24-2008, 09:45 AM
Those Sig 10's have No power unless you want like an 8 watt Amp type tone.
I would go with 2 Weber alnico P10N's ~ BIG Tones! (10A150's)

bluesjuke
09-24-2008, 01:06 PM
I'm also a strong proponent of AlNico in all things tweed.

S.W.Erdnase
09-24-2008, 05:05 PM
They're Weber 10A125s in the Retro Super.

Goldie295
09-25-2008, 10:09 AM
Is there some way you can configure a Bassman to run on two 10s like a Super where the venue doesn't warrant four 10s? I was thinking you could sent the amp up so on the flick a switch (hey presto) the Bassman becomes a Super.

Would this work or am I showing just how little I understand amp wise by even asking...

Cheers,
Phil

RickyKing
09-25-2008, 11:42 AM
Is there some way you can configure a Bassman to run on two 10s like a Super where the venue doesn't warrant four 10s? I was thinking you could sent the amp up so on the flick a switch (hey presto) the Bassman becomes a Super.

Would this work or am I showing just how little I understand amp wise by even asking...

Cheers,
Phil

https://taweber.powweb.com/weber/silencer.htm

Phil, I use one of these in my Pro Reverb works great, 2 would work cool in a Bassman...you could deactivate 1 or 2 speakers as needed.

Goldie295
09-26-2008, 05:59 AM
https://taweber.powweb.com/weber/silencer.htm

Phil, I use one of these in my Pro Reverb works great, 2 would work cool in a Bassman...you could deactivate 1 or 2 speakers as needed.


Ricky - that is great thanks. Now should I do the top or bottom speakers or a combination of both...

I suppose an accurate representation of a Super would be the bottom two, but then the top two would be at a nice height...like a Super on a bar crate...

:dunno

RickyKing
09-26-2008, 09:39 AM
Ricky - that is great thanks. Now should I do the top or bottom speakers or a combination of both...

I suppose an accurate representation of a Super would be the bottom two, but then the top two would be at a nice height...like a Super on a bar crate...

:dunno
I'd do top left bottom right...

Swingblues
09-26-2008, 04:25 PM
Hi Guys,

My friend make a edition of one gig with Hummel, this my Strat with Harmonic Design pickup into a my friend´s "Marshall Bluesbreaker Clone" (the green amp below), I like that amp :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBU3312T2dY

Other clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBGDpRHbtn8

All the best!
Igor Prado

KBR
09-26-2008, 06:18 PM
Right on, Igor
Orale' Homes

jumpnblues
09-26-2008, 07:42 PM
Yeow Igor! You are killin' man. And those HD pu's sound great. They do make good pu's. I've had 'em before and liked them a lot. You are at the top of your game though. You're just playin' great and you've developed your own recognizable style in the process...something few people are able to do. Love listening to ya' play.


Tom

Stringmaster
09-26-2008, 08:27 PM
Killer Igor--you've got it all! I always look forward to hearing your stuff. Any recordings in the works, or any chance of getting those bootlegs when you're able?
Thanks, Dana

bluesjuke
09-26-2008, 09:01 PM
Good job Igor!
You guys are good together.

Goldie295
09-27-2008, 03:24 AM
Igor - great stuff mate. Keep 'em coming !

Now don't shoot me for this...but...I discovered something this morning. Guitar leads actually sound different depending on which end you have in the guitar and amp. For each of my leads, there seems to be a right and a wrong way around (I am not kidding). I never realised this. Has anyone else tried it?

Cheers,
Phil

Dave Orban
09-27-2008, 08:10 AM
Igor - great stuff mate. Keep 'em coming !

Now don't shoot me for this...but...I discovered something this morning. Guitar leads actually sound different depending on which end you have in the guitar and amp. For each of my leads, there seems to be a right and a wrong way around (I am not kidding). I never realised this. Has anyone else tried it?

Cheers,
PhilIt's true, in my experience.

Which direction is "better" depends, I suppose, on what you're looking to hear.

RickyKing
09-27-2008, 08:18 AM
hi guys,

my friend make a edition of one gig with hummel, this my strat with harmonic design pickup into a my friend´s "marshall bluesbreaker clone" (the green amp below), i like that amp :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbu3312t2dy

other clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebgdprhbtn8

all the best!
Igor prado

+1 great stuff! Also paging Valcotone,pm me please on an amp of interest.

Swingblues
09-27-2008, 10:21 AM
Killer Igor--you've got it all! I always look forward to hearing your stuff. Any recordings in the works, or any chance of getting those bootlegs when you're able?
Thanks, Dana


Tks Bro´s!!!

Hey Dana in November Lynwood Slim is comming to Brazil, we are playing a few gigs and record a new album something like "L.Slim & Igor Prado Band".
I like very much the way that Lynwood, sings, play and produce.

Also, Im sending a old Lynwood clip:
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=lMooSZSoG1Q

All the best!
Igor Prado

Strat-O
09-27-2008, 10:32 AM
Hi Guys,

My friend make a edition of one gig with Hummel, this my Strat with Harmonic Design pickup into a my friend´s "Marshall Bluesbreaker Clone" (the green amp below), I like that amp :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBU3312T2dY

Other clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBGDpRHbtn8

All the best!
Igor Prado


Nice!

Strat-O
09-27-2008, 10:34 AM
Tks Bro´s!!!

Hey Dana in November Lynwood Slim is comming to Brazil, we are playing a few gigs and record a new album something like "L.Slim & Igor Prado Band".
I like very much the way that Lynwood, sings, play and produce.

Also, Im sending a old Lynwood clip:
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=lMooSZSoG1Q

All the best!
Igor Prado


Hey that's good news that Lynwood will be recording a new album. With the Prado crew, it will no doubt be inspired and killer.

I worship "Lost In America". When I recorded, mixed and mastered my bands CD, that was the sound I was going for. Interestingly enough, Larry Taylor engineered "Lost In America".

blueskalle
09-27-2008, 04:40 PM
Igor,Youre smokin hot!!!
Kalle

S.W.Erdnase
09-27-2008, 06:24 PM
It's true, in my experience.

Which direction is "better" depends, I suppose, on what you're looking to hear.

Huh? Do leads have markings to indicate which end is which? I've never noticed if they do... Or is this a wind up?

groove_king
09-28-2008, 04:48 AM
Huh? Do leads have markings to indicate which end is which? I've never noticed if they do... Or is this a wind up?

Planet Waves cables have markings ..

Poppa Stoppa
09-28-2008, 12:52 PM
Igor you're sounding great man. I love those Hubert Sumlin licks.

Re: leads, a friend got me to buy an expensive lead once because it sounded fuller and fatter - more hi fi. And true enough, it does. But once the band starts up, nobody can tell the difference! Another thing - if you ever play a guitar amp through a hi fi speaker, it sounds terrible. The guitar needs some top and bottom end cut off to sit in the band mix. So I just obey my one superstition - the BLUE plug on my lead goes in my guitar to remind me to play the blues.

Schwalbe
09-28-2008, 01:21 PM
Igor you're sounding great man. I love those Hubert Sumlin licks.

Re: leads, a friend got me to buy an expensive lead once because it sounded fuller and fatter - more hi fi. And true enough, it does. But once the band starts up, nobody can tell the difference! Another thing - if you ever play a guitar amp through a hi fi speaker, it sounds terrible. The guitar needs some top and bottom end cut off to sit in the band mix. So I just obey my one superstition - the BLUE plug on my lead goes in my guitar to remind me to play the blues.

So...everybody go get some blue paint.:roll

Strat-O
09-29-2008, 03:22 PM
Any of you guys ever try a Victoria Double Deluxe?

jetlag
09-29-2008, 05:02 PM
Any of you guys ever try a Victoria Double Deluxe?

Hi Strato,

So far the Double Deluxe is about my favorite amp victoria makes. Regal II is probably a close second. The older ones had the mojotone/eminence ceramic magnet speakers and sounded really good. I've played some newer ones in stores that had RI jensens that sounded like crap. Lately, a local player has been using one with RI C12Ns that sounds great. He plays 5-6 gigs a week all year round and bought the amp used, so I suspect the RI C12Ns just are really broken in. Very cool amp - more club friendly than the lo power tweed twin and much better tone (unless you are going for maximum cleans). It's still a fairly loud amp. On a techno note - I like the fact that they put separate cathode (biasing) resistors in for each output tube pair so you don't have to buy quads - you can buy two pairs.

Scott Miller
09-29-2008, 09:29 PM
So I put on a Tiny Grimes CD, and the following conversation happens:

Wife: "Who's this?
Me: "Tiny Grimes."
Wife: "I like it. It sounds like you."
Me: "YEAH, BABY!!!!"

blueskalle
09-30-2008, 12:54 PM
Hold on to your wife!!!!;)

Kalle

Goldie295
09-30-2008, 12:58 PM
Killer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmWz2jEk8HI&NR=1

Thinsocks
09-30-2008, 01:07 PM
Just put Rick Holmstrom's 1949 TV Front Tweed Pro in the Emporium. It's a very WCB approved amp.

TwoFeets
09-30-2008, 04:28 PM
Killer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmWz2jEk8HI&NR=1

Dang, now the hair on the back of my neck is gonna be standing on end all night long. Whew.

Strat-O
09-30-2008, 08:20 PM
Hi Strato,

So far the Double Deluxe is about my favorite amp victoria makes. Regal II is probably a close second. The older ones had the mojotone/eminence ceramic magnet speakers and sounded really good. I've played some newer ones in stores that had RI jensens that sounded like crap. Lately, a local player has been using one with RI C12Ns that sounds great. He plays 5-6 gigs a week all year round and bought the amp used, so I suspect the RI C12Ns just are really broken in. Very cool amp - more club friendly than the lo power tweed twin and much better tone (unless you are going for maximum cleans). It's still a fairly loud amp. On a techno note - I like the fact that they put separate cathode (biasing) resistors in for each output tube pair so you don't have to buy quads - you can buy two pairs.


That's a pretty good endorsement. I've been really curious about them. I love the 5e3 but its just not enough. I wonder what the best current speaker might be to put in them? Seems like it ought to be an alnico rather than ceramic magnet speaker.

Dave Orban
09-30-2008, 08:31 PM
So I put on a Tiny Grimes CD, and the following conversation happens:

Wife: "Who's this?
Me: "Tiny Grimes."
Wife: "I like it. It sounds like you."
Me: "YEAH, BABY!!!!"Dude! :dude

GOLDENSTRAT
09-30-2008, 08:52 PM
Strat-o, are you dissatisfied with your Regal 2 or just looking for a different amp?
I have a friend that has a Regal 2 and it doesn't knock us over- does the speaker take a long time to break in?
Nice going Scott!
fred

Strat-O
10-01-2008, 09:16 AM
No, its a great amp. A modern classic. Its doesn't sound like a tweed amp though, for that sound you need different amp.

The stock Weber speaker in that amp, in my opinion, should be removed and replaced. Way too smooth and slick sounding.

Schwalbe
10-01-2008, 10:23 AM
No, its a great amp. A modern classic. Its doesn't sound like a tweed amp though, for that sound you need different amp.

The stock Weber speaker in that amp, in my opinion, should be removed and replaced. Way too smooth and slick sounding.
Which Weber is in there?

So I put on a Tiny Grimes CD, and the following conversation happens:

Wife: "Who's this?
Me: "Tiny Grimes."
Wife: "I like it. It sounds like you."
Me: "YEAH, BABY!!!!"
Wow, it's nice when you find others can hear what your going for!
So, are we calling you Tiny Miller from now on?

jawjatek
10-01-2008, 11:33 AM
Strat-O: I'm finding my 5E3 is plenty for most places, but I just got a 5E7 Clark Tyger (3-10" tweed Bandmaster) that is incredible. I took it to Northside for Carlos' Th-F gigs the week before last, and Jim played it both nights (I sat in on it the 2nd-3rd sets). We all thought it sounded great, really full tone and compression, even turned down for that room ('bout halfway up). Jim used his ES135 thru a Fender reverb unit, and I used a strat. They both sounded killer. You can try it sometime if you want. It has alnico Webers (I broke them in by playing cds thru my PA into the speakers for a few days, turned up pretty loud; some classic blues, Mozart, and one really bass-heavy Dan Lanois CD on repeat LOL).

KBR
10-01-2008, 01:31 PM
3x10 Bandmasters are a special Amp, I had 2 and should have kept one...
I had a 59 Bassman (stock Jensen P10Qs, that was on a loan for 2 years...it was even better)
I think Kid Anderson has it on a loan, now.

www.myspace.com/kennyblueray

Birdseye
10-01-2008, 02:05 PM
The 3x10 Bandmaster....mmmm...my favorite amp. I had a Victoria that was real nice, but just got an old one a few months back, a '59 player (thanks Thinsocks!), and there was a big difference between the two. The old one is working much better for me.

I also have a '60, that's a different animal...compared it to a '60 Super owned by a friend last weekend and was surprised at how little difference in tone there was...very close...3x10s push a bit more air, that's about it, tube rectifier did not make a huge difference in the Super, interestingly.

Scott Miller
10-01-2008, 07:45 PM
I must show off my consignment-store score.

Silvertone H-64, 1958 or 1959: $299, plus tax, with a chipboard case. I don't need another one of these things, but at that price... I couldn't pass it up. Plays great, sounds great. Crikey!

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm31/argoogle/h64_003.gif

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm31/argoogle/h64_002.gif

Schwalbe
10-01-2008, 08:16 PM
I must show off my consignment-store score.

Silvertone H-64, 1958 or 1959: $299, plus tax, with a chipboard case. I don't need another one of these things, but at that price... I couldn't pass it up. Plays great, sounds great. Crikey!

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm31/argoogle/h64_003.gif

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm31/argoogle/h64_002.gif

Nice, and a bargain too. Much better shape than mine. Disclaimer: this picture is 17 years old.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a122/RockinDaddy/Gig%20shots/BluesDeluxe.jpg

GOLDENSTRAT
10-01-2008, 08:20 PM
Scott, you're having a great week.
fred

Dave Orban
10-01-2008, 08:27 PM
That's AWESOME, Scott...!

Echo Are
10-01-2008, 10:43 PM
Nice, and a bargain too. Much better shape than mine. Disclaimer: this picture is 17 years old.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a122/RockinDaddy/Gig%20shots/BluesDeluxe.jpg

Man, it's a trip to see a pic of R.J. that young.

mrkenny
10-02-2008, 06:25 AM
Wow, right place-right time. I love those geetars!

valcotone
10-02-2008, 11:35 AM
Dan, That's a GREAT photo, thanks for sharing that.

Is RJ actually plugged into that Fender Reverb tank? I don't recall hearing of harp players using one of those...

jumpnblues
10-02-2008, 01:38 PM
Scott,


Love that banner with the name of your band on it in the background...cool name too! :D :crazy


Tom

nc slim
10-02-2008, 04:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9V-QnefTzM&feature=related


How did this slip by Honky tonk man doin his stuff

S.W.Erdnase
10-02-2008, 04:52 PM
Dan, That's a GREAT photo, thanks for sharing that.

Is RJ actually plugged into that Fender Reverb tank? I don't recall hearing of harp players using one of those...

Guys certainly do use those tanks. Gary Smith uses one and in fact recommends them on a video he put out years ago.

nc slim
10-02-2008, 05:02 PM
How bout Clean head Shuggie is there too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI5oS1_0GfI

Scott Miller
10-02-2008, 05:11 PM
Gary Smith uses one and in fact recommends them on a video he put out years ago.

The last time I saw Gary, his rig had become quite complicated. Two pretty big tweed amps, tank, some sort of switcheroo dealy-bopper, I forget what else. It sounded great, but then, Gary has such tone, he sounded great when he used to just play a stock Pro Junior.

S.W.Erdnase
10-02-2008, 05:27 PM
Anyone recommend this? Who are the players? I'm on a Roy Brown kick right now...

http://www.amazon.com/Good-Rockin-Tonight-Live-Francisco/dp/B0006B60YI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1222986368&sr=8-3

S.W.Erdnase
10-02-2008, 05:30 PM
The last time I saw Gary, his rig had become quite complicated. Two pretty big tweed amps, tank, some sort of switcheroo dealy-bopper, I forget what else. It sounded great, but then, Gary has such tone, he sounded great when he used to just play a stock Pro Junior.

I agree, he'd sound great playing a piece of paper and a comb. On his video he recommends a tank to improve the tone of most amps. More tubeage...

I suppose it'd be fun for some of those slow ones like Cotton's "Blues in My Sleep", but I personally find I don't need anything to assist the tone of the amps I'm using. All you need is tweed, da-de-da da da...

GOLDENSTRAT
10-02-2008, 05:58 PM
Anyone recommend this? Who are the players? I'm on a Roy Brown kick right now...


I think I have that on a Japanese label, red and yellow cover. Mine has Pee Wee Crayton on Guitar, if I can find the cd I'll post more but its seems about right song- wise.

That Billy Butler clip is great!

Anybody ever play an Alamo amp 2-6v6, 2x10 speakers? fred

hahpin
10-02-2008, 07:46 PM
Is RJ actually plugged into that Fender Reverb tank? I don't recall hearing of harp players using one of those...

I wonder if he still has it? I use the same tank with my Bassman. A little sustained resonance for harp goes a long way in a place where the amps aren't mic'd.

Scott Miller
10-02-2008, 08:09 PM
Anyone recommend this? Who are the players? I'm on a Roy Brown kick right now...

I have the Japanese version too. PeeWee Crayton rAwKs, and the other guitar player is Ron Thompson. Roy Brown WAILS on this CD. You know that Roy Brown wail? Times ten! Awesome.

mr_jlemko
10-03-2008, 01:30 AM
The last time I saw Gary, his rig had become quite complicated. Two pretty big tweed amps, tank, some sort of switcheroo dealy-bopper, I forget what else. It sounded great, but then, Gary has such tone, he sounded great when he used to just play a stock Pro Junior.

That was a fun night. He had a reverb tank. He was using a reissue Bassman and a Sonny Jr Cruncher. He had a delay pedal somewhere in there, too. It sounded really good, but man was it ever loud. My ears rang for a couple of days afterward. I don't think that I've ever heard a harp player play so loud in a place so small. He made Rod Piazza look quiet. He used to get some killer tone out of that Pro Junior.

I've seen RJ play through one of those tanks before.

S.W.Erdnase
10-03-2008, 02:36 AM
The Crunchers have only been around for a couple of years. You maybe meant an SJ1 or SJ2?

Not that it matters except to us harp nerds.

Strat-O
10-03-2008, 08:36 AM
[quote=Schwalbe;4815351]Which Weber is in there?


It 'was' a 15A150T. Really smooth sounding speaker.

Schwalbe
10-03-2008, 12:32 PM
Dan, That's a GREAT photo, thanks for sharing that.

Is RJ actually plugged into that Fender Reverb tank? I don't recall hearing of harp players using one of those...

Most of the harp players I work with use a tank or a Holy Grail. The tank really warms up an amp and seems (IMHO) to soften the attack, especially for harp but even for guitar.
RJ played straight into the PA the last time I gigged with him.

valcotone
10-03-2008, 01:03 PM
Cool, thanks Dan. The harp players around here use solid-state Marshall amps for their squealing and feedback requirements, and I don't recall seeing a tank when I've seen some of the bigger names (Hummel, Wilson, Estrin...) at various venues. I though it was mostly delay pedals. Good to know though, thanks.

bluesjuke
10-03-2008, 01:25 PM
So Scott, you're saying I should go with my wife on her Consignment and Thrift store forays?
Sound like I should start.
Nice score!

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm31/argoogle/h64_002.gif

Schwalbe
10-03-2008, 02:37 PM
[quote=Schwalbe;4815351]Which Weber is in there?


It 'was' a 15A150T. Really smooth sounding speaker.

Now I'm trying to remember what we were talking about.
Age before IQ I always say...er...something like that.:worried:o:rotflmao

mr_jlemko
10-03-2008, 04:04 PM
The Crunchers have only been around for a couple of years. You maybe meant an SJ1 or SJ2?

The last time I saw Gary Smith was less than a month ago. Scott Miller was there. Gary Smith was using a Cruncher and a Bassman. They weren't matching amps, but there was a short wall of tweed between him and us.

Scott Miller
10-03-2008, 04:58 PM
Hey, here's another one of those guitars, and that harmonica fella too.

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm31/argoogle/silvertone.gif

Schwalbe
10-03-2008, 05:13 PM
Cool, thanks Dan. The harp players around here use solid-state Marshall amps for their squealing and feedback requirements,

EESSHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek::hide:crazyguy:cry::puh:bk w

Schwalbe
10-03-2008, 05:14 PM
Hey, here's another one of those guitars, and that harmonica fella too.

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm31/argoogle/silvertone.gif

I always liked how Billy's bass scroll made RJ's pomp look even bigger!

S.W.Erdnase
10-03-2008, 07:04 PM
The last time I saw Gary Smith was less than a month ago. Scott Miller was there. Gary Smith was using a Cruncher and a Bassman. They weren't matching amps, but there was a short wall of tweed between him and us.

My fault for the confusion. I thought we were still talking about R.J.Mischo ten years ago.

Note to self: Must. Pay. Attention.

Schwalbe
10-04-2008, 06:49 PM
I went over to my buddy Carl's this afternoon to compare the humbuckers we both own.
I brought the Heritage H535 with SD Seth Lovers and my old Sebring L5 with Gibson 490R & T. Carl has an ES135 with '57 Classics in it. John Franken, another local Blues purveyor, was supposed to show up with his H535 loaded with SD 59's. He didn't show.
The amps were Carl's SFPR in a Crusty Cab with a Weber 15A150-O and my Weber 6A14 with a 15A150-O. Essentially two of the same amp.
I started off playing the ES135 into the SFPR while Carl corralled the dog he's sitting. Once the hound was kenneled I picked my H535 plugged into the 6A14 and Carl took his Gibson. We threw a few twelve bars around, swapped guitars, broke out the pseudo L5 and each took a spin on that. There wasn't all that much difference between pickups and guitars. The 135/57 seemed to have a slight bit more upper mids but the Seth's have a little more top and bottom. The 490's had the edge on that burnished compressed Gibson 'bucker sound more than the other pups, but that may be due them being in a full sized and fully hollow archtop rather than a semi.
We checked the DC resistance and came up with this; Seth Lovers - neck 7.17 K, bridge 7.9K, '57 Classics - neck 7.73 K, bridge 7.70 K, 490 R (neck) 7.57 K 490 T (bridge) 8.14 K.
It was interesting and fun. We came away thinking all 3 sets sounded pretty much the same.

Swingblues
10-05-2008, 03:46 PM
Hey Guys,

Last night I jammed with Duke Robillard in my town, Sao Paulo, incredible player and very cool person, he invite me for two songs:
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=F34rVtCfXSU

I like very much duke´s epiphone with two mini humbuckers...

All the best
Igor Prado

jawjatek
10-06-2008, 12:15 AM
I very much like that video. I shall now go burn my guitars.... :bow

Seriously, dats some good chit, Igor. Come play Atlanta soon - I'm afraid of flying. :D

Goldie295
10-06-2008, 02:07 AM
Hey Guys,

Last night I jammed with Duke Robillard in my town, Sao Paulo, incredible player and very cool person, he invite me for two songs:
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=F34rVtCfXSU

I like very much duke´s epiphone with two mini humbuckers...

All the best
Igor Prado


Nice one Igor - you is livin' the life !
Cheers,
Phil

blueskalle
10-06-2008, 02:10 PM
Igor - Youre the man!!!
Kalle

musicofanatic5
10-06-2008, 03:32 PM
If Duke wasn't such a cheap so an so, he could have taken his own dynamite band, and not had to settle for a JazzBass player and a gurl on drums (this is where a user of cutsie-poo smiley faces would insert one to indicate jest!).
Seriously, if the band had gone, I would have had the pleasure of meeting you Igor! I always enjoy digging your loopy lines! As it is, we languish at home while the boss is away, actually happy to not be subjected to the long, torturous plane rides! Meanwhile, anyone need a bass player/drummer/gtr player/mandolin/steel gtr...?

Schwalbe
10-06-2008, 06:17 PM
If Duke wasn't such a cheap so an so, he could have taken his own dynamite band, and not had to settle for a JazzBass player and a gurl on drums :stir:stir:stir:banana:hide:roll:roll:roll

bluesjuke
10-07-2008, 01:39 AM
Hey Guys,

Last night I jammed with Duke Robillard in my town, Sao Paulo, incredible player and very cool person, he invite me for two songs:
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=F34rVtCfXSU

I like very much duke´s epiphone with two mini humbuckers...

All the best
Igor Prado




That's awesome Igor!
I liked that a lot.
Glad you're making the rounds with all of the best, yourself included.

Goldie295
10-08-2008, 10:57 AM
Has anyone got any experience of a Brownface Pro. I'm looking at one next week with a view to buy.

Cheers,
Phil

valcotone
10-08-2008, 11:21 AM
.......As it is, we languish at home while the boss is away, actually happy to not be subjected to the long, torturous plane rides! Meanwhile, anyone need a bass player/drummer/gtr player/mandolin/steel gtr...?


Hmmm.... I could use some guitar lessons. :RoCkIn

RickyKing
10-08-2008, 04:44 PM
Has anyone got any experience of a Brownface Pro. I'm looking at one next week with a view to buy.

Cheers,
Phil

I have had a couple over the years,great trem...not tweed at all.
very much depends on what speaker is in it.

dddelta
10-09-2008, 07:52 AM
Thought this might be of interest to the folks in here -

http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2008/11/johnson200811?printable=true&currentPage=all

KingTone
10-09-2008, 08:51 AM
Hey guys, Just wondering about the 2nd pre amp tube on blackface amps. (reverb channel) I've been using 5751's for years. Of course I know I can try it, but just wondering what the consensus is on 12AX7 vs. 5751. Now that I also dig the tweed sound instead of as big of a clean sound as I can get I was thinking maybe a return to the 12AX7 is in order in my BFSR. Ronnie's BF tone is really happening. Opinions?? Thanks JL

afenderman67
10-09-2008, 08:59 AM
Hey guys, Just wondering about the 2nd pre amp tube on blackface amps. (reverb channel) I've been using 5751's for years. Of course I know I can try it, but just wondering what the consensus is on 12AX7 vs. 5751. Now that I also dig the tweed sound instead of as big of a clean sound as I can get I was thinking maybe a return to the 12AX7 is in order in my BFSR. Ronnie's BF tone is really happening. Opinions?? Thanks JL

i have a blackface super reverb and i've tried the 5751 in it as well, i like the 12ax7 in the second position, more gain and more opened up to my ear anyway's!

nmontz
10-09-2008, 11:29 AM
I've always used 12ax7's in v2 and v4 in my super reverbs. But I have done other things to increase the gain. I don't use the normal channel much on my bf amps as I have tweeds I could use...so I pull v1. That adds a nice little boost, I like it so much I do that to all my bf amps. The other mod that is really cool is to get a on/ off switch on your trem intensity pot to switch it out of the circuit. Disconnecting the trem will really boost your signal. These last mods I don't like as much....but another thing you can do is stick that 5751 in the phase inverter spot. I had a super reverb that sounded thin until I tried a 5751 in the PI spot. Now some people will stick a 12ax7 in there too...but the breakup is too grainy for me. It really adds some grind though. The last trick I tried was a NFL disconnect. I had it installed in the external speaker jack. Who uses it in a 2 ohm SR anyway? I had it wired to a fixed resistor value, but some people use a pot. It will give you some breakup at a low volume level and really changes the feel of the amp. Makes it real raunchy.

The tube swaps and pulls are really easy to quickly try to see if you like. The Trem disonnect and NFL you just have to desolder a lead for each to try. If I remember right, for the trem it's the brown wire going to the intensity pot, and for the NFL it's the only lead going back to the board off the external speaker jack.

I had two super reverbs until last summer when I sold the worst sounding one. My 66' I didn't have any mods in it other than I pulled v1 and it sounded great. The BLSF 68', I had v1 pulled, a trem disconnect, a 5751 in v6 and the above mentioned NFL switch. I was running cts alnico's in the 66' and original cone 65' jensen c10q's in the 68.' Tonewise the 66' was total Blacktop Anson Funderburg and the 68' was more Ronnie Earl bright edgy but it was a LOT louder than the 66' too. I sold the 68' SR and bought a 67' BLSF Pro Reverb. I'm pretty happy with that move...although a good sounding SR is still my favorite amp.

TwoFeets
10-11-2008, 05:36 PM
Got a Strat-O care package today. Thanks man!

nc slim
10-12-2008, 06:46 AM
will this apply to my vibrolux Can you explain the mod for the tube challenged blues guy

Schwalbe
10-12-2008, 02:22 PM
I've always used 12ax7's in v2 and v4 in my super reverbs. But I have done other things to increase the gain. I don't use the normal channel much on my bf amps as I have tweeds I could use...so I pull v1. That adds a nice little boost, I like it so much I do that to all my bf amps. The other mod that is really cool is to get a on/ off switch on your trem intensity pot to switch it out of the circuit. Disconnecting the trem will really boost your signal. These last mods I don't like as much....but another thing you can do is stick that 5751 in the phase inverter spot. I had a super reverb that sounded thin until I tried a 5751 in the PI spot. Now some people will stick a 12ax7 in there too...but the breakup is too grainy for me. It really adds some grind though. The last trick I tried was a NFL disconnect. I had it installed in the external speaker jack. Who uses it in a 2 ohm SR anyway? I had it wired to a fixed resistor value, but some people use a pot. It will give you some breakup at a low volume level and really changes the feel of the amp. Makes it real raunchy.

The tube swaps and pulls are really easy to quickly try to see if you like. The Trem disonnect and NFL you just have to desolder a lead for each to try. If I remember right, for the trem it's the brown wire going to the intensity pot, and for the NFL it's the only lead going back to the board off the external speaker jack.

I had two super reverbs until last summer when I sold the worst sounding one. My 66' I didn't have any mods in it other than I pulled v1 and it sounded great. The BLSF 68', I had v1 pulled, a trem disconnect, a 5751 in v6 and the above mentioned NFL switch. I was running cts alnico's in the 66' and original cone 65' jensen c10q's in the 68.' Tonewise the 66' was total Blacktop Anson Funderburg and the 68' was more Ronnie Earl bright edgy but it was a LOT louder than the 66' too. I sold the 68' SR and bought a 67' BLSF Pro Reverb. I'm pretty happy with that move...although a good sounding SR is still my favorite amp.

will this apply to my vibrolux Can you explain the mod for the tube challenged blues guy


They'll all work. An AA763 on through (roughly) the Silver Face era is pretty much the circuit same in any speaker configuration. An SR differs from a VR from a PR etc., in speakers and transformers. The easiest mod to try is pulling V1. You should have some amp knowledge before D.I.Ying the others.

If it's a new Custom VR, that's a different circuit. IIRC it has no NFB. You could still pull V1.

Strat-O
10-12-2008, 04:55 PM
Got a Strat-O care package today. Thanks man!

May the force be with you, my blues loving friend. :phones

GOLDENSTRAT
10-12-2008, 11:13 PM
Just got the new Ronnie Earl dvd in the mail. Major Kudos to Nick Adams for some GREAT playin'!
fred

Goldie295
10-13-2008, 09:47 AM
Got a Fender Champion 600 at the weekend - cheap deal. It is a wicked amp for the front room - breaks up at a low 5 watts. Swapped the valves for oldies and it sounds grand. Could get a Weber 6" speaker, but probably not worth it.

Also got a note saying my Lollar 50s winds p90s are with Customs. Looking forward to getting these guys into my R6 VOS. When I do, I'll report back.

I'm looking to get another guitar soon so if any of you regular West Coasters have something interesting you want to sell, pm me.

Cheers,
Phil

Strat-O
10-14-2008, 09:24 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReoiQH5PWyE

Poppa Stoppa
10-14-2008, 12:21 PM
Strat-O I'll see your Junior Wells & Buddy Guy & raise you an Otis Rush into an AC30:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsXK2zL2-yM&feature=related

By the way I love the Junior Wells ending on that clip Strat-O. Friend of mine has got that down, it's a very cool ending.

TwoFeets
10-14-2008, 05:37 PM
I had to cancel a gig with Leroy Cooper at the last minute a few weeks ago, so I handed it over to my buddy Josh Miller. Check it out - Leroy, Kenny Clarke on B3 and Tommy DeQuattro (ex-Duke Robillard, etc.) on drums. Leroy blowing the crap outta that thing.

Hallelujah I Love Her So
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuhT6AVNiNk

Reconsider Baby
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUEMqB_Fcmc

Mercy Mercy (different gig)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhSD8vxTNfg

Goldie295
10-15-2008, 04:05 AM
Poppa - I'll call

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmVwLY035Kg

saggybottom
10-15-2008, 08:35 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ40kVRvcdk

Goldie295
10-15-2008, 12:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ40kVRvcdk

Cool vid and - for my money - the winning hand.
Cheers,
Phil

opdev
10-16-2008, 02:03 PM
Any East Coasters going out to see Junior Watson tonight? Sorry I did not read back much.

valcotone
10-16-2008, 03:00 PM
opdev - Have you landed an early 50's Tele yet?

opdev
10-16-2008, 04:42 PM
Ha, no but I did get a custom shop esquire that rivals any of the 50's guitars I have played. I spend 3-4 hours at GC Vintager room in Hollywood and got to play alot of 1953-1957 teles and esquires. I'll put this esquire against any of them.

BUT, I am still looking. Prices are dropping, especially on Gibby LP Specials.

Poppa Stoppa
10-16-2008, 04:59 PM
Talking of Mr Watson, I guess I found out where he got his inspiration from for his version of The Hucklebuck - Earl Hooker!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOI8VK6TwBE&feature=related

I had a day off work with a cold this week and got to play the guitar for the whole day straight for once. I finally worked out how the mighty Joel Foy played all those great licks and turnarounds on 'Ice Cream Man' off William Clarke's live album Rockin' The Boat - after about 25 years of listening to that great guitar part. The really good parts and the elusive little lick he played right at the end of most verses are built around a first position A7.

opdev
10-16-2008, 05:00 PM
PS, He is at Inn on the Blues in York Maine. I'll be there.

RickyKing
10-17-2008, 01:27 AM
PS, He is at Inn on the Blues in York Maine. I'll be there.
Dang...workin' every nite...:BITCH

opdev
10-17-2008, 08:43 AM
What an awesome show. This was my first time seeing him and he lived up to expectations. What a player. it's a shame it was a sparse crowd because you just really need to see him play.

10/16/08 Inn on The Blues

http://pic80.picturetrail.com:80/VOL849/3235589/20773953/339086801.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com:80/VOL849/3235589/20773953/339086788.jpg



A fan boy picture

http://pic80.picturetrail.com:80/VOL849/3235589/20773953/339086782.jpg

Goldie295
10-17-2008, 08:44 AM
Bought an original blackface Pro Reverb (a '66 I think from the speaker codes) yesterday. Sounds (really, really) great. My band are playing a support for a fun old timer (ex-this, ex-that) at the weekend at a grown-up Theatre so will get chance to wick it up. Can you guess what it sounds like with my P90 Goldtop (minus the talent of course)? Here is a clue...

http://a534.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/107/l_f8cd9e742a82a1c7d5318e47240db285.jpg

Cheers,
Phil

nc slim
10-17-2008, 09:43 AM
Where is Tommy Dequatro? I played some gigs w him at Backroom years ago, He was Duke's drummer w Pleasure Kings.

TwoFeets
10-17-2008, 11:23 AM
he's in central Florida in the Space Coast area. Josh gigs with him whenever he's available. Killer player!

Scott Miller
10-17-2008, 04:58 PM
I found out where he got his inspiration from for his version of The Hucklebuck - Earl Hooker!

That was the tune that started my Earl Hooker craze, which ended only because it was supplanted by my Excello craze, which seems to have run its course, mostly because I bought every Excello compilation CD I could find. I need a new craze.

maxVsf
10-17-2008, 05:33 PM
That was the tune that started my Earl Hooker craze, which ended only because it was supplanted by my Excello craze, which seems to have run its course, mostly because I bought every Excello compilation CD I could find. I need a new craze.

Maybe you could get funky with a Melvin Sparks craze?

mrkenny
10-18-2008, 08:16 AM
What an awesome show. This was my first time seeing him and he lived up to expectations. What a player. it's a shame it was a sparse crowd because you just really need to see him play.

10/16/08 Inn on The Blues

http://pic80.picturetrail.com:80/VOL849/3235589/20773953/339086801.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com:80/VOL849/3235589/20773953/339086788.jpg



A fan boy picture

http://pic80.picturetrail.com:80/VOL849/3235589/20773953/339086782.jpg

Thanks for the pic, THAT's the man. Cool beard huh. You go Jr.

Schwalbe
10-18-2008, 10:05 AM
We haven't got down home funky around here in a while so here's this;
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=x9p_NFyVNuM

GOLDENSTRAT
10-19-2008, 07:17 PM
Thanks for posting that Schwalbe, I got to see a show of that tour and got Muddy and Lovie's autographs. Meeting Muddy was unbelievable. fred

jawjatek
10-20-2008, 10:18 AM
Well, I'm doing my first paid gig in a few years this Friday, at Fat Matt's in Atlanta (if you want to call it pay LOL). This is a 3-piece so I'll be doing it all, lead, rhythm and melody, and I hope my fingers are up to it. Played a party the other weekend and did 3 sets there so I think I'll be OK. I'm more of a sideman in this crew; the drummer is bandleader and sings - a new one for me. I had to learn a lot of new arrangements and tunes. We are covering some swing blues; for some reason this guy covers a lot of harp tunes, only without a harp player. I have to figure out some of the lines and adapt them to guitar. I'll probably use my 5E3 thru a "65 reverb tank, and a Supa-trem pedal for a few swampy tunes, using a homebuilt parts-o-caster and my ES-330. Wish me luck!

Strat-O
10-20-2008, 10:25 AM
Well, I'm doing my first paid gig in a few years this Friday, at Fat Matt's in Atlanta (if you want to call it pay LOL). This is a 3-piece so I'll be doing it all, lead, rhythm and melody, and I hope my fingers are up to it. Played a party the other weekend and did 3 sets there so I think I'll be OK. I'm more of a sideman in this crew; the drummer is bandleader and sings - a new one for me. I had to learn a lot of new arrangements and tunes. We are covering some swing blues; for some reason this guy covers a lot of harp tunes, only without a harp player. I have to figure out some of the lines and adapt them to guitar. I'll probably use my 5E3 thru a "65 reverb tank, and a Supa-trem pedal for a few swampy tunes, using a homebuilt parts-o-caster and my ES-330. Wish me luck!


Good Luck!

Schwalbe
10-20-2008, 06:05 PM
Quote:Originally Posted by jawjatek
Well, I'm doing my first paid gig in a few years this Friday, at Fat Matt's in Atlanta (if you want to call it pay LOL). This is a 3-piece so I'll be doing it all, lead, rhythm and melody, and I hope my fingers are up to it. Played a party the other weekend and did 3 sets there so I think I'll be OK. I'm more of a sideman in this crew; the drummer is bandleader and sings - a new one for me. I had to learn a lot of new arrangements and tunes. We are covering some swing blues; for some reason this guy covers a lot of harp tunes, only without a harp player. I have to figure out some of the lines and adapt them to guitar. I'll probably use my 5E3 thru a "65 reverb tank, and a Supa-trem pedal for a few swampy tunes, using a homebuilt parts-o-caster and my ES-330. Wish me luck!


Good Luck!

++++:)

jumpnblues
10-21-2008, 10:15 AM
Tear it up jawja!


Tom

jawjatek
10-21-2008, 10:49 AM
Thanks guys! Should I wear the bowling shirt, or the Hawaiiian? :D

S.W.Erdnase
10-21-2008, 04:51 PM
May the force be with you, my blues loving friend. :phones

Hey! I got a care package today, too - down here in Strayliar. What a great surprise. Nice work, man - great playing!

jumpnblues
10-21-2008, 05:06 PM
Thanks guys! Should I wear the bowling shirt, or the Hawaiiian? :D


Which ever gives you the best tone. ;)


Tom

nmontz
10-21-2008, 11:34 PM
Tom....you or Jason going to Mark Hummel Harp Blowout with Kim Wilson tomorrow night at BOG?

Schwalbe
10-22-2008, 12:17 AM
Tom....you or Jason going to Mark Hummel Harp Blowout with Kim Wilson tomorrow night at BOG?

I just got home from that show here in Minneapolis. Rusty Zinn was tremendous. Wilson, Hummel and Dick weren't too bad either. Wilson got local guitar wiz Jeremy Johnson up for his set. Jer and Zinn worked well together.

valcotone
10-22-2008, 12:32 AM
Thanks for the report Dan. Cool that Jeremy got to sit in... I'm sure he did Minneapolis proud. They are coming here mid-November (without Wilson unfortunately) and I really hope to see that show!

Goldie295
10-22-2008, 03:12 AM
Got the R6 back with the Lollar 50s wind P90s. Had a pull switch added to put them out of phase. They have a distinctive early Freddie King sound - which is about as 50s as you can get I suppose, so I am very happy with them. Certainly an improvement on the standard Gibsons. The bridge pup is taller than the Gibson one but it doesn't get the way when playing. If anything, it helps the balance a bit.

Also, I stumbled upon a '56 Jensen 15" speaker (code 220643). Snapped it up right away. P15R didn't mean anything to me at the time and it was a one off opportunity so I could look it up when got it. The good news is it's rare, the bad news is it's rated at 25w with a 1" coil. I think it is the one used in the first TV Pros in the late 40s early 50s. I want to put it in my Narrow Panel Pro clone, but am worried about killing it. Any suggestions? If have the volume halfway would that be okay?

Cheers,
Phil

S.W.Erdnase
10-22-2008, 03:25 AM
Why not marry it to a Deluxe circuit in a bigger cab?

It's only money, mate.

bluesjuke
10-22-2008, 03:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jawjatek http://img.thegearpage.net/board/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?p=4903918#post4903918)
Thanks guys! Should I wear the bowling shirt, or the Hawaiiian? :D





Whichever matches your Beret better of course.

.

nmontz
10-22-2008, 07:24 AM
Thanks for the report Dan...Zinn is always great! I don't think I've ever seen Jeremy Johnson play. I didn't know who the guitarists would be. Last time I saw Hummel he had Bob Welsh on guitar...and Last time I saw Wilson he had Billy Flynn and Little Frank. It should be a great show tonight, I'm looking forward to it.

btg
10-22-2008, 09:56 AM
Speaking of Mark Hummel's Harmonica blowouts check out the new CD he has out of various performances he has put out on Electro-Fi. I just got it and have not listened to it all the way though but so far some killer stuff from William Clarke, Carey Bell with Steve Freund on guitar and Paul deLay with Watson on guitar. Got the Rusty Zinn and the Roadmasters D on Bluebeats own label. A really good release of what is basically a Kim Wilson show with Rusty on a few vocals.

Did anyone catch Pinetop Perkins on Austin City Limits last week. Backed by Gary Clark Jr. and Derek O'Brien. Good set but way to short.

jumpnblues
10-22-2008, 11:06 AM
Noel,


Just saw your post. Damn! Missed another one. Gotta' pay more attention to the BOG website.


Tom

valcotone
10-22-2008, 12:05 PM
Also, I stumbled upon a '56 Jensen 15" speaker (code 220643). Snapped it up right away. P15R didn't mean anything to me at the time and it was a one off opportunity so I could look it up when got it. The good news is it's rare, the bad news is it's rated at 25w with a 1" coil. I think it is the one used in the first TV Pros in the late 40s early 50s. I want to put it in my Narrow Panel Pro clone, but am worried about killing it. Any suggestions? If have the volume halfway would that be okay?

Cheers,
Phil


Phil, I think 25W is optimistic for a '56 P15R. The Pros usually had Jensen P15N which is a much more robust speaker. Your NP Pro puts out enough power to blow that speaker... I wouldn't risk it.

Goldie295
10-22-2008, 01:21 PM
Phil, I think 25W is optimistic for a '56 P15R. The Pros usually had Jensen P15N which is a much more robust speaker. Your NP Pro puts out enough power to blow that speaker... I wouldn't risk it.


Valco,

How about a Champ or Deluxe - would that be okay?

Cheers,
Phil

opdev
10-22-2008, 03:27 PM
After seeing Jr. Watson last week, I have serious vintage Stratotone GAS. Anyone looking to unload one of these guys can PM me. Not looking for a collectors item.

blueskalle
10-22-2008, 03:31 PM
There is one on the bay. Its missing the bridge but seems ok other than that.
Kalle

Schwalbe
10-22-2008, 06:27 PM
Thanks for the report Dan...Zinn is always great! I don't think I've ever seen Jeremy Johnson play. I didn't know who the guitarists would be. Last time I saw Hummel he had Bob Welsh on guitar...and Last time I saw Wilson he had Billy Flynn and Little Frank. It should be a great show tonight, I'm looking forward to it.

There's a youtube of Jeremy sitting in with Joe T. Cook here;
http://www.youtube.com/user/guitar90blues
There's also some Rockin' Daddy & The Rough Cuts at the late, legendary Viking Bar on that page.

And here's Jer with Big George Jackson;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21CQNIgPsiA

bluesjuke
10-23-2008, 03:39 AM
Speaking of Mark Hummel's Harmonica blowouts check out the new CD he has out of various performances he has put out on Electro-Fi. I just got it and have not listened to it all the way though but so far some killer stuff from William Clarke, Carey Bell with Steve Freund on guitar and Paul deLay with Watson on guitar. Got the Rusty Zinn and the Roadmasters D on Bluebeats own label. A really good release of what is basically a Kim Wilson show with Rusty on a few vocals.

Did anyone catch Pinetop Perkins on Austin City Limits last week. Backed by Gary Clark Jr. and Derek O'Brien. Good set but way to short.



Sure wish I knew about the ACL with those together.

WHat's the title of the Hummel CD?

nmontz
10-23-2008, 08:47 AM
Great show last night! Blues on Grand was filled to capacity with people waiting out side to get in. Rusty WAS amazing, laying down great stuff all night! Johnson wasn't with them down in DM. Dick, Hummel and Wilson all blowin' at once for the encores was so over the top it was crazy cool. Jason, was that you all blues brother'ed up? The place was so packed getting around to talk to people was hard.

Dan, I'll check out the youtube clips of Johnson today...thanks.

btg
10-23-2008, 10:10 AM
Mark Hummel's Blues Harmonica Blowouts "Still Here & Gone 1993-2007"

bluesjuke
10-23-2008, 01:28 PM
Thank you.

dddelta
10-23-2008, 04:42 PM
Go Henry Go!!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=SgpobvXRlFs

jimfog
10-25-2008, 02:59 AM
Man......I hate to be a cliche but........

I've been REALLY loving my strat with my new (for me) 66 Super Reverb.

It's been a blast....and EXACTLY what I want to hear.

When I got the amp, I was a bit underwhelmed, to the point of having it up for sale, but it turns out there were 2 blown CTS Alnicos, and the other two are pretty tired and lousy sounding (any ideas who can do a good recone?)

I've since put in 2 Celestion G10-60's and two Weber C10Q's (thanks, Jeff), and it's working out great. Nice and full, no icepick and no bass farts. Breaks up @ 5-6 on the volume. Really glad I did some experimenting before selling...........I can be real bad about not giving gear a good shot.

Tonight we played a pretty lively smallish room, but with a couple clicks of a Weber MiniMass, I was able to keep it under control, but still singing. Real dynamic and full-spectrum sound. Huge piano bass. Puts out the proverbial BIG NOTE.

Weighs too damned much, and I kind of feel like I need a Bolo hat and pancho..........but, damn, does it sound great.

TwoFeets
10-25-2008, 09:15 AM
Has anyone seen the new Epiphone "Riviera Custom" that's on MF's site? THREE P90's in a Riviera. Woo!

jumpnblues
10-25-2008, 10:49 AM
Man......I hate to be a cliche but........

I've been REALLY loving my strat with my new (for me) 66 Super Reverb.

It's been a blast....and EXACTLY what I want to hear.

When I got the amp, I was a bit underwhelmed, to the point of having it up for sale, but it turns out there were 2 blown CTS Alnicos, and the other two are pretty tired and lousy sounding (any ideas who can do a good recone?)

I've since put in 2 Celestion G10-60's and two Weber C10Q's (thanks, Jeff), and it's working out great. Nice and full, no icepick and no bass farts. Breaks up @ 5-6 on the volume. Really glad I did some experimenting before selling...........I can be real bad about not giving gear a good shot.

Tonight we played a pretty lively smallish room, but with a couple clicks of a Weber MiniMass, I was able to keep it under control, but still singing. Real dynamic and full-spectrum sound. Huge piano bass. Puts out the proverbial BIG NOTE.

Weighs too damned much, and I kind of feel like I need a Bolo hat and pancho..........but, damn, does it sound great.


You know, Jim, some of my favorite amps of all time have been amps I wasn't that impressed with at first. A Victoria 45410T Tweed Bassman comes to mind. It turned out to be one of my favs. And nothing sounds better than a really good SR. One of my top 2-3 guitar tones ever is Anson's '57 Strat into one of his SRs. Luscious tone, tone, tone. I'd love to hear yours sometime. Any clips?


Tom

TwoFeets
10-25-2008, 10:54 AM
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Epiphone-Limited-Edition-Riviera-Custom-P93-Electric-Guitar?sku=516284

jumpnblues
10-25-2008, 11:08 AM
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Epiphone-Limited-Edition-Riviera-Custom-P93-Electric-Guitar?sku=516284


Wow. Bet they sell a bunch of those. I'd like to try one out.


Tom

Jeff Michael
10-26-2008, 01:46 AM
Ready for a couple of quick Fogarty impressions?

Last night: "Man, I am so keeping this Super."

Tonight: "Man, I am totally selling this Super."

Any guesses as to which gig had three steps and which had fifteen?

JAM

jimfog
10-26-2008, 02:12 AM
Ready for a couple of quick Fogarty impressions?

Last night: "Man, I am so keeping this Super."

Tonight: "Man, I am totally selling this Super."

Any guesses as to which gig had three steps and which had fifteen?

JAM

I guess I was just tired from carrying not only my 150 lb Super, but all YOUR crap, AND the entire PA system both up AND down said flight of stairs. (15??? surely there were 57 or more)

The most galling part was having to haul your leaden POS amp.........AMP?!?!?!? I mean, it's not like we want to hear your bum notes anyway. The upright is just for show.







....but yeah, even after cursing the stairs, I must admit that Super sounded mighty friggin' juicy.

- Jim

PS......it's not often one can say......"damn I wish I was an Upright bass player....lucky bastard's rig is so much lighter than mine!"

bluesjuke
10-26-2008, 08:34 AM
You know, Jim, some of my favorite amps of all time have been amps I wasn't that impressed with at first.

Tom


My Tweed Pro was like that.
Oh I liked it at first but after a few tube swaps ( different V1 and swapped V2 &3 with each othe).I found the gold in it.

Now we're inseparable.

jumpnblues
10-26-2008, 10:05 AM
There's a youtube of Jeremy sitting in with Joe T. Cook here;
http://www.youtube.com/user/guitar90blues
There's also some Rockin' Daddy & The Rough Cuts at the late, legendary Viking Bar on that page.

And here's Jer with Big George Jackson;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21CQNIgPsiA


That ain't Jeremy. That's the ghost of Michael Mann! :AOK


Tom

Scott Miller
10-26-2008, 06:05 PM
Some recent Youtubes of myself...

Kicking the set off with some Amos Milburn:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mddghJIhFM

Amy Lou jumping:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K0CsbdlU9s[/URL]

The Fine Art of Noodling:
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh2-y-p7dhw"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh2-y-p7dhw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh2-y-p7dhw)

Schwalbe
10-26-2008, 10:17 PM
That ain't Jeremy. That's the ghost of Michael Mann! :AOK


Tom

HA! Yeah we used to tease him about that.

How 'bout this?
http://f9g.yahoofs.com/groups/g_15013813/.HomePage/__sr_/d40f.jpg?grAe6BJBXnpvYBMP

Schwalbe
10-26-2008, 10:21 PM
Some recent Youtubes of myself...

Kicking the set off with some Amos Milburn:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mddghJIhFM

Amy Lou jumping:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K0CsbdlU9s[/URL]

The Fine Art of Noodling:
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh2-y-p7dhw"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh2-y-p7dhw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh2-y-p7dhw)

Cool!

Goldie295
10-27-2008, 11:12 AM
Jim, interesting to hear about your SR success. I'm really enjoying a 66 Pro Reverb at the moment (that feels heavy enough...). Been doing a bit wheeling and dealing and am about to fit is out with all nos tubes including a pair of GEC KT66s. Will let you know how I get on.

Also, I mentioned the P15R speaker I bought. I was going to put it into another cabinet and run the deluxe through it. My tech tells me I can just swap the 6L6s for 6V6s in my Pro to drop the power and all will be well. So I am going to fit the speaker in there and give that a try. Will check the bias first to make sure I don't create other problems. Has anyone else run their Pro with 6V6s?

Cheers,
Phil

RickyKing
10-27-2008, 11:26 AM
Jim, interesting to hear about your SR success. I'm really enjoying a 66 Pro Reverb at the moment (that feels heavy enough...). Been doing a bit wheeling and dealing and am about to fit is out with all nos tubes including a pair of GEC KT66s. Will let you know how I get on.

Also, I mentioned the P15R speaker I bought. I was going to put it into another cabinet and run the deluxe through it. My tech tells me I can just swap the 6L6s for 6V6s in my Pro to drop the power and all will be well. So I am going to fit the speaker in there and give that a try. Will check the bias first to make sure I don't create other problems. Has anyone else run their Pro with 6V6s?

Cheers,
Phil

JMHO but I don't think the Pro will work too good w/6v6.
Too much power supply voltage,I believe. What recto you running?

TwoFeets
10-27-2008, 07:03 PM
I wouldn't run my Pro with 6v6's either...

Goldie295
10-28-2008, 08:40 AM
Untouchable:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrdpL9ldUzM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9fIUOvU1ws&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzRTi0Sm36o&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61M1YDpOqWQ&feature=related

Thanks all for the valve and amp advice btw.

Cheers,
Phil

Strat-O
10-28-2008, 09:33 AM
Well J-Tek, did you leave 'em wanting more? More ribs, more guitar or both?

Kid Andersen is the hottest young guitar player on the blues scene today. He blows everyone away except the crusty veterans. When I saw him with Musselwhite several years ago he was the only current blues guitar player who came anywhere near Sean Costello's depth of talent. Check out the videos of him on You Tube with Rick Estrin and the Nightcats.

jawjatek
10-28-2008, 09:54 AM
It went pretty well. I didn't hit too many clams. The rain cut the crowd down a bit, but we did OK. You going to the "Donnie McCormick Day" thing Thurs at Northside? I'll buy the first round...
:drink

KBR
10-28-2008, 11:21 AM
Strat O
I agree about Kid Anderson & Sean Costello
2 of the Best I have ever heard.

I have done Gigs & Jams w/ Kid...a monster player who can play anything!

Johnny Cat is close to both those Cats!

Thinsocks
10-28-2008, 12:18 PM
Chris is great. He's one of those rare guys who is just really musical. I think he could excel at probably any type of music he chooses to play.

Stringmaster
10-28-2008, 12:25 PM
Does anyone know who's out with Nemeth on the current West Coast tour? Thinking about catching them in SD. Thanks

jumpnblues
10-28-2008, 03:57 PM
Untouchable:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrdpL9ldUzM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9fIUOvU1ws&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzRTi0Sm36o&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61M1YDpOqWQ&feature=related

Thanks all for the valve and amp advice btw.

Cheers,
Phil


Thought you talkin' about sore hemorrhoids until I checked out the videos. :jo :huh ;)


Tom

Strat-O
10-28-2008, 08:40 PM
It went pretty well. I didn't hit too many clams. The rain cut the crowd down a bit, but we did OK. You going to the "Donnie McCormick Day" thing Thurs at Northside? I'll buy the first round...
:drink


I can't picture the mayor posing beside Donnie Mc but that would be a Kodac moment for sure. I was thinking about swinging by. You be there early or late?

Scott Miller
10-29-2008, 12:33 AM
"Does anyone know who's out with Nemeth on the current West Coast tour?"

At the Poor House tonight it was Bob Welsh on guitar, Dmitri what's-his-name on bass, and a youngster named Nick, I think, on drums. A tight band. He has a whole lot of new material.

BTW, for the locals, this is a regular Tuesday night spot for John, with Schermer subbing when John is out of town.

jimfog
10-29-2008, 12:41 AM
Untouchable:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrdpL9ldUzM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9fIUOvU1ws&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzRTi0Sm36o&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61M1YDpOqWQ&feature=related

Thanks all for the valve and amp advice btw.

Cheers,
Phil

That 2nd one "The Bender" is just otherworldly..... I've watched it a bunch since it was posted............gives me hope for humbuckers! lol

Strat-O
10-29-2008, 10:08 AM
Yeah but, this is insane... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QKqirLvYE0

:bow

jawjatek
10-29-2008, 10:28 AM
I can't picture the mayor posing beside Donnie Mc but that would be a Kodac moment for sure. I was thinking about swinging by. You be there early or late?

I'll probably be there earlier rather than later. Should be packed.

valcotone
10-29-2008, 10:51 AM
yeah but, this is insane... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qkqirlvye0

:bow



good freakin' golly!!!!

Jeff Michael
10-29-2008, 12:11 PM
That ain't Jeremy. That's the ghost of Michael Mann! :AOK


Tom

The Miami Vice guy died? I didn't hear that. Man, and I loved Heat too.

JAM
a/k/a Flourtown Fats

straightblues
10-29-2008, 03:35 PM
I was just watchin those Kid Anderson videos. Man what a great player. He was playing three different guitars and all sounded different but good. It got me thinking, who is really sticking with one guitar these days? I find myself playing about 8 different guitars. In watching these videos I was wondering if the audience really would prefer to hear a signture guitar tone from a player. For example, I really like to hear Charlie Batty with a hollowbody or the thin line tele as opposed to the strat. I am sure BB King would be good on a strat, but everyone wants to hear Lucille.

KBR
10-29-2008, 05:19 PM
BB recorded some great stuff on a Strat, old stuff.
Kid & Little Charlie, 2 wicked players!

I use 4 different Guitars, makes it more fun!

GOLDENSTRAT
10-29-2008, 09:44 PM
Here is a Little Charlie vid w/ Kid but here Rick and Charlie go nuts at about 4:30 or so....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QbQ1gD_56U&feature=related

I love the Bender, too. fred

Goldie295
10-30-2008, 05:03 AM
I was just watchin those Kid Anderson videos. Man what a great player. He was playing three different guitars and all sounded different but good. It got me thinking, who is really sticking with one guitar these days? I find myself playing about 8 different guitars. In watching these videos I was wondering if the audience really would prefer to hear a signture guitar tone from a player. For example, I really like to hear Charlie Batty with a hollowbody or the thin line tele as opposed to the strat. I am sure BB King would be good on a strat, but everyone wants to hear Lucille.

Funnily enough, I would say Kid's 'signature tone' is with his red 60s es335. I guess generally what he has done is meld surf style with a west coast/blues style and developed an interesting vibrato to compliment it.

I think working on vibrato and phrasing is more effective than changing guitar. Though every time I change axe it adds a little inspiration. Personally, I'd love to hear BB King with an ES5 or an esquire or something. Now that would be grand.

I remember Gatemouth played a $240 Washburn es335 thing during his later days. Sounded no different to his vintage Gibson.

Cheers,
Phil

Strat-O
10-30-2008, 09:00 AM
Funnily enough, I would say Kid's 'signature tone' is with his red 60s es335. I guess generally what he has done is meld surf style with a west coast/blues style and developed an interesting vibrato to compliment it.



Nah, he's a lot deeper than that. You've got to keep listening. The Freddie King, Buddy Guy, and Merle Travis influences go in with the surf and Junior Watson influence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWbEhmNd3UA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDO7biXDMHE

Almost in the Junior Brown vein except Junior Brown can't pull off the classic blues sound.

:bow His guitar playing talent is deep...like Sean Costello's was. Kid just doesn't have the incredibly soulful voice to go with it.

KBR
10-30-2008, 09:37 AM
I like Kid on his Les Paul's, his Red Guitar is a 345.
he plays a lot of Peter Green/Danny Kirwin Vibrato's (faster vibrato's)
& does Slide without a slide! (Try that one Dudes)
ala Otis Rush/Earl Hooker styles, He is a hell of a Player and has Good TONE.

Scott Miller
10-30-2008, 10:14 AM
Since we're dissecting Chris, last night he was playing a white 1982 flying V. It's currently on ebay, so you can purchase your bit of blues history: "This is the guitar that Chris Andersen played at the Little Fox theater, accompanied by Scott Miller, who just kind of held on and weathered the storm." Whew, he just went OFF. It was a lot of fun.

mr_jlemko
10-30-2008, 03:50 PM
Come on man! What are you talking about? I was there. That was a damn good time.

Additionally, you sounded fine from where I was standing. I'm sure you had fun, you weren't wearing pants. Thankfully, it was a Halloween party and not the norm.

hasserl
10-30-2008, 04:37 PM
Here is a Little Charlie vid w/ Kid but here Rick and Charlie go nuts at about 4:30 or so....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QbQ1gD_56U&feature=related

I love the Bender, too. fred

:eek: :eek: Holy Crap!!! That was awesome, simply awesome.

Scott Miller
10-30-2008, 05:43 PM
Come on man! What are you talking about? I was there. That was a damn good time.

Yeah, I had a blast. I'm just saying that with some performers, being on stage with them is a powerful experience. Such as Chris. And you know what it's like to play with Freund and Nemeth. Crikey!

nc slim
10-31-2008, 04:14 PM
Speaking of West Coast guys I saw Steve Miller last week.He is still a great player. He seemed to have the most fun on the Blues tunes. He played a great Tramp and oop oop a doo and some Bo didly stuff If you can find Rock Love an lp from 1970 it has some great live guitar on it. He did a great take on the gangster of love back then.

Poppa Stoppa
11-01-2008, 05:49 AM
Here is a Little Charlie vid w/ Kid but here Rick and Charlie go nuts at about 4:30 or so....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QbQ1gD_56U&feature=related

I love the Bender, too. fredI'm loving all the Kid Andersen vids - what a talent - but this one was fantastic. Who'd have thought Buddy Guy licks could sound so damn cool? And I'm a sucker for all that Rick Estrin/Little Charlie hamming it up and Rick's goofy looks of incredulity.

bluesjuke
11-01-2008, 07:27 PM
Finally getting an R6 next week.
Now I've got to learn all of the in & out of phase wiring/ switching.
Is it worth it?


Gonna get some tones out of my head.

Strat-O
11-01-2008, 08:29 PM
Who'd have thought Buddy Guy licks could sound so damn cool?

I'm going to cheerfully pretend you didn't actually say that. :mob

Poppa Stoppa
11-02-2008, 08:07 AM
I'm going to cheerfully pretend you didn't actually say that. :mobHaha. You are too generous. Occasionally I need reminding just how good some of the greats are/were. Same thing with Albert Collins - I only realised what a signature style he had when I heard someone else expertly recreating it.

nmontz
11-02-2008, 09:12 AM
I really dig my r6 with the out of phase push/pull pot mod. My only advice would be to get p-90's with the extra leads so that you won't ground out the guitar when you touch the pole pieces. I have my bridge p-90 darn near to the strings If I get a little heavy with my muting I'll ground out the guitar. No sound is a real surprise in the middle of a solo. :-) The mod really opens up a lot of tones though. The t-bone thing is nice...but I really dig setting up that 60's B.B. King es345/55 out of phase tone.

bluesjuke
11-02-2008, 09:28 AM
Thanks nmontz.
I've heard about removing the ground from the baseplate and running a separate ground.
Is this the estra wire you're refering to?

Bluesjam
11-02-2008, 01:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp4BlGXwSew

S.W.Erdnase
11-02-2008, 02:06 PM
Same thing with Albert Collins - I only realised what a signature style he had when I heard someone else expertly recreating it.

Like this:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5UNYj_M07po&feature=related

Also, the kid from the UK, Matt something, does a great AC.

Best, though, is Bobby Radcliff.

S.W.Erdnase
11-02-2008, 02:12 PM
Bobby does Buddy:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=evdIjl24JhI&feature=related