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Jiffy_Jeff
10-09-2008, 03:10 PM
the point is that the docotrs I know here gravitate towards the LP, turn their noses to other quality brands because they are not LPs.

I am not familiar your tastes or other doctors here on the board, so the comment does not include you.

Bankston
10-09-2008, 03:17 PM
Everyone knows that drummers are cooler than guitar players, right? :stir

How do you know a drummer is at your door?
The knocking gets faster.

Little Johnny told his mom that he wanted to be a drummer when he grows up.
His mom told him he couldn't do both.

Bantha
10-09-2008, 03:58 PM
My dad is a doctor...he has an 87 LP Custom and a 74 Tele, and drools over my McCarty.

MartinC
10-09-2008, 04:20 PM
I'm not a doctor ... and I don't have a PRS

XKnight
10-09-2008, 05:05 PM
Dr. Love does not play a PRS.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e308/XKnight/Kiss.jpg

Cranknfrank
10-09-2008, 10:15 PM
Take a listen to David Grissom or Stephen Bruton working out on a PRS to get some perspective on what a PRS in experienced hands can do. I'll admit though, both of these guys have experimented with different pickup types in their PRS's through the years. They are phenomenal instruments but I think the voicing of some of their pickups have probably turned off many more traditional minded players.

I've been primarily a Strat player for the last 20 years but picked up a PRS after seeing Grissom with Joe Ely in the early '90's. Since then I've always had a PRS and have gone through several of their models. Having said that, the DGT and SC245 are outstanding instruments and will appeal to players looking for a more traditional tone. Currently, the DGT is my main guitar..........nitro finish, big frets, best humbuckers I've played with great sounding split sounds.

I'll bet the cat playing with Crosby and Nash was playing a DGT. The vocabulary and scope of the guitar is unbelievable. If you can get your hands on one, you will be impressed.

shane88
10-10-2008, 01:44 AM
i'm not into figured maple tops and to me the coolest planks are the junkyard dogs that have dings and bits missing :)

Zemaitisguitar
10-10-2008, 06:57 AM
I've owned many PRS in the past. I have to say that the 10 tops and birds are a little too much for me these days, but with that said PRS's are my go to guitars. I just prefer Mccarties with a light flame and moons (nothing over the top.

Bankston
10-10-2008, 08:48 AM
i'm not into figured maple tops and to me the coolest planks are the junkyard dogs that have dings and bits missing :)

Trust me, if you gig with a fancy maple top enough, you will get plenty of dings and bits missing.

THebert
10-10-2008, 09:54 AM
I am surprised by how long this thread has gone on. To me, any guitar is cool (except the wangcaster, just can't go for that one!). I have yet to see or touch any guitar that I could not find something cool about it. I love them all. Same for distortion pedals, I seem to find at least one thing that is cool for each pedal. Just as beauty is in the eye of the beholder, cool is in the eye of the beholder. People are cool or not, and the use of a thing may or may not be cool, but things themselves are simply things.

Terry McInturff
10-10-2008, 10:16 AM
To me, PRS is always going to be "cool"....every one of us indie builders owes Paul Smith a debt of gratitude for opening up the marketplace for alternatives to the Big Two.

Roo_D
10-10-2008, 12:04 PM
Cool will come and cool will go...a great instrument is a great instrument whether it be a Fender, Epiphone, Tokai, or PRS.

Great musicians generally see an instrument as a "tool" first and whether it will do the job for them or not. Sure "cool" more of less counts for something however if it won't do the job for you... "General consensus" is a fairly dubious term to try to apply to guitar players. Has there ever been more mercurial, indecisive, type? :rotflmao

johngti
10-12-2008, 05:54 AM
Perhaps Dr Evil stole it from PRSH by mistake...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6Acigj8isc

But seriously, mojo? In a guitar? I know for a fact that I could pick up the coolest LP owned by the best player in the history of playing and make it sound like a huge steaming pile of poo! If there were such a thing as mojo surely it would rub off on me too?

Don't look for reasons not to like PRS guitars, just don't like them! Lacking in "mojo" seems a strange thing to claim for any lump of wood, metal, plastic and paint.

bri237
10-12-2008, 10:04 AM
Yes; I've had 3 PRS guitars; all were pretty guitars, but unremarkable in tone & playability. I'll stick to my Fenders/Gibsons.

agreed I have had 3 as well and am always left wanting something more. They just feel sterile to me

Eagle1
10-12-2008, 11:43 AM
PRS was NEVER cool.

Kelly
10-12-2008, 12:36 PM
PRS was NEVER cool.Thnx, Fonzie.

Flyin' Brian
10-12-2008, 12:40 PM
I'm not a doctor ... and I don't have a PRS
Me either and I've never stayed at a Holiday Inn Express

noctilux1
10-12-2008, 01:37 PM
Anyone ever been to Mojo Guitars in Cornwall?

Quinny
10-12-2008, 01:48 PM
Anyone ever been to Mojo Guitars in Cornwall?

Been in Falmouth many a time (getting married there next summer) and never heard of it. Hopefully the shop's better than their website....

Dirk Diggler
10-12-2008, 04:52 PM
PRS lack MOJO, they just have those gawdy flame tops. :stir

Mike Duncan
10-12-2008, 06:54 PM
http://pic16.picturetrail.com:80/VOL664/3909625/8084735/335778791.jpg


No gawdy flame tops here. This thing oozes mojo and tone. I've been a HARD CORE Strat guy for over 20 years and this PRS has taken over the slot that any guitar has ever occupied for me.

kingsleyd
10-12-2008, 07:17 PM
PRS lack MOJO, they just have those gawdy flame tops. :stir

Nothing cool about gaudy flame tops. Nothing at all. :p

http://images.lilypix.com/albums/userpics/10098/normal_IMG_1076.JPG

http://images.lilypix.com/albums/userpics/10098/normal_07_R9_3.jpg

http://images.lilypix.com/albums/userpics/10098/JG_with_CC_case_3a.JPG

kingsleyd
10-12-2008, 07:25 PM
http://pic16.picturetrail.com:80/VOL664/3909625/8084735/335778791.jpg


No gawdy flame tops here. This thing oozes mojo and tone. I've been a HARD CORE Strat guy for over 20 years and this PRS has taken over the slot that any guitar has ever occupied for me.

Mike, nothing personal here -- I think the gold DGTs are cool as hell (although I personally play one with a tobacco sunburst and a 10 top -- sorta like the one DG plays these days)

But ya know, it's kinda funny that a gold top is seen as "plain" or "not gaudy" when a naturally flamey maple with a lovely sunburst is seen as "gaudy" and "over the top." I mean, come on. It's METALLIC GOLD. How is that not "gaudy"?!?!


Only in guitar land, I guess. :rolleyes:

:)

Gratuitous flame/PRS/sunburst shot...

http://images.lilypix.com/albums/userpics/10098/DGT_body.jpg

shane88
10-12-2008, 08:11 PM
PRS will never be cool 'til they start makin' relics :rotflmao

joesnewmatch
10-12-2008, 08:13 PM
Around 2001, I picked up a used Custom 22, with birds, and 10 top (gray/black stripes) at GC. The salesman said a high school kid bought it, but then wanted to go to Europe for the Summer, but his father said he couldn't do both, so he traded it down for an LP Studio. (Who knows if that's true, but it didn't help the rep, right?) Anyway, it was a gorgeous guitar, amazing build quality, etc., but I never bonded with it and always thought it sounded thin and sterile. Sold it for as much as I paid, maybe even a bit more.

Totally wrote off PRS -- but keep in mind, at that point, I also hated Strats, and sunbursts. I was a regular Tele guy for a while. Then, one day, I discovered some of the other PRS models and the various tones they had to offer. I now have a '98 McCarty Soapbar goldtop that KILLS. It's one of my favorite guitars, and easily has the best neck of any of my guitars. I also now have 2 amazing Strats, and one even has a burst finish. I also still have my Tele, as well as a LP with P-90s (both are bulletproof). Can't bond at all with my SG '61 RI and would love to trade it for or towards a regaular McCarty or a SC245 (what I'm truly gassing for at the moment).

My point, taste is totally subjective and evolves over time. Sometimes it takes time and mojo for you to bond with a particular guitar or even a model. PRS may not have been in business for 50 years, but I put them in the same league as Fender and Gibson, any day of the week. And I have never owned an Ibanez -- unless you count Tubescreamers.

atomicmassunit
10-12-2008, 08:47 PM
PRS will never be cool 'til they start makin' relics :rotflmao

I'm giving mine the relic treatment the old fashioned way, 100+ nights a year.


Nothing cool about gaudy flame tops. Nothing at all. :p


Nice guitars!

Jiffy_Jeff
10-14-2008, 11:40 PM
Well I have not found anything sterile with the sound from the PRS I just got.

The tones are great, and do what I need. Its great, and sits right next to my Tele at gigs. And I use both at the gigs.

I think its very cool. Its a Custom 24 with birds and gold hdwr. Not a 10 top, but that was never a need for me. I like the Emerald green color.

o if they lost their cool, or never were cool........... its cool now. Cause Im playin it!!!:dude

AudionAnalog
10-14-2008, 11:52 PM
I had the opportunity to play a Custom 22 recently and I have to say that they are killer guitars ... true ...

but man OH man ...

http://www.guitarecollection.com/upload/images/Bigs/BV-Y2008M2D21H9M44S19.jpg

MAN O MAN O MAN O MAN !!!

joesnewmatch
10-15-2008, 07:41 AM
AudionAnalog, I don't have a real, vintage LP like that one, but I do have a Custom Shop Classic all mahogany with P-90's, which sounds freaking amazing, but you know what, I still reach for my PRS McSoapy 90% of the time -- it's just a pleasure to play. The neck carve, finish, weight and plain playability of the PRS win, at least in my book.

Jiffy_Jeff
12-13-2008, 02:04 PM
Well months later, and I still think my PRS is cool as hell!!!

Great tones, not stale like some think. They must have played a dud.

Great Looks. Just a Great Guitar!!!

And for those that think they are uncool becuase Nickleback, and bands like that made them uncool. Well................. Boy Georges guitar player used a Strat....... so they must be gay!!

Michael T
12-13-2008, 02:38 PM
right now it is cool to bash PRS.

Things go in circles...those who run the circles are going nowhere.

MartinC
12-13-2008, 02:41 PM
I'm not a doctor ... and I don't have a PRS

I now have a PRS ... but I'm still not a doctor ... what are the odds!? ... just bizarre ... ;)

:jo

bluesyjacuzzi
12-13-2008, 04:16 PM
Well I just got a McCarty Korina with brazilian board for a steal. Very cool guitar and it sounds absolutely wonderful.

http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k327/Bluesyjacuzzi/Guitars/mckorina/DSCN2166.jpg


http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k327/Bluesyjacuzzi/Guitars/mckorina/DSCN2176.jpg

any company that can offer you a lightweight korina guitar with brazilian fretboard for so little money is way cool in my book.

majorbanjo
12-13-2008, 04:23 PM
PRS can't loose something it never had......no PRS is cool next to a Les Paul....it's just not possible to be more cool than a les paul.....ever since I watched Dwayne Allman play in person years ago.........PRS yeah....shaw....pfff...

big mike
12-13-2008, 04:26 PM
Oh great, the weekly PRS Bashing ressurected.

Best production guitars made IMO, toneful and I could pull damn near any of them off the rack and gig immediately.
I can't do that with fender or gibson.

Play what you dig.

majorbanjo
12-13-2008, 04:36 PM
weekly....wow...it's slacked off...

big mike
12-13-2008, 04:38 PM
weekly....wow...it's slacked off...

Perhaps I was giving too much benefit of the doubt.

Used my Cu22 at practice last night. Sounded killer.

xdisciplex
12-13-2008, 06:29 PM
i bought this cu22 a little over a month ago and it sounds great, out of 10 prs i owned over the years this is one of my favs.
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f183/XDISCIPLEX/iuygtuy.jpg

i also have a tremonti tribal and its one of my favs too.
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f183/XDISCIPLEX/uberpics005.jpg

The Last Rebel
12-13-2008, 06:48 PM
PRS can't loose something it never had......no PRS is cool next to a Les Paul....it's just not possible to be more cool than a les paul.....ever since I watched Dwayne Allman play in person years ago.........PRS yeah....shaw....pfff...
Who's Dwayne Allman? Any relation to Duane or Gregg Allman?

Voxy Foxy
12-13-2008, 06:50 PM
wait no really though, have they ever been cool?

none of the popular young artists use them...the bands that do use them are like creed and nickelback...

nothing personal against the guitars...i'm just sayin'

Kingbeegtrs
12-13-2008, 07:00 PM
I was actually thinking about this today in the car. For decades Fender and Gibson owned the market...sure, you had your occasional Gretch or Ric, but for the most part you saw a guy either playing a Strat, Les Paul, or a Tele. IMO Paul Reed Smith is the ONLY guitar mfg who has been able to successfully break away from the mold with an original design that incorporates the best features available and has made its way to nearly become a rock and roll icon. Guys my age fantasized about being like Jimmy Page or Jeff Beck with Les Pauls and Strats, but my kids are going to grow up idolizing the Dave Navarro's of the scene - and they're all playing PRS's.

Personally, I can't stand them, but I do have the utmost respect for what PRS has accomplised. I can't even begin to count the number of companies like Yamaha, Ibanez, and Hamer who have merely made the exact same thing that we already had with a slightly different headstock shape. A strat with two humbuckers and a floyd rose is still a strat.

yucatown
12-13-2008, 08:23 PM
Yes, PRSs are still cool. I'm not sure popular artist use is a good standard for "coolness." There's a market for everything, and those who dig them will find them cool. For what is worth, PRSs are used by artists as diverse as Al DiMeola, Mana or Opeth.

Shark Diver
12-13-2008, 08:58 PM
Oh great, the weekly PRS Bashing ressurected.

Best production guitars made IMO, toneful and I could pull damn near any of them off the rack and gig immediately.
I can't do that with fender or gibson.

Play what you dig.

Played PRS for close to 20 years. Quit playing them not for reasons pertaining to the guitar, but customer service issues. Great guitars - off the rack. But when I checked out other guitar brands there are a lot that compare. I ended up with Suhr. Great guitars off the rack as well.

Guitars don't make people cool, people make guitars cool. I'll probably never play PRS again, but they are still one of the best guitars made. Hard to beat an original Modern Eagle. :dude

Drowned Rabbit
12-14-2008, 02:29 AM
Yes, PRSs are still cool. I'm not sure popular artist use is a good standard for "coolness." There's a market for everything, and those who dig them will find them cool. For what is worth, PRSs are used by artists as diverse as Al DiMeola, Mana or Opeth.

OPETH

Here's them live playing their PRSi's through Laney amps (I think).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kenyBvpL0qQ
:dude:dude:dude:Devil:dude:dude:dude

matte
12-14-2008, 06:47 AM
the original cu 24s (for me) are iconic. the materials(brazilian rosewood, honduras mahogany, eastern maple), timbral range, tuning stability, ease of setup and string change have been a source of great inspiration to me.

paul's concept and execution were brilliant.

Jon Silberman
12-14-2008, 07:29 AM
Best production guitars made IMO, toneful and I could pull damn near any of them off the rack and gig immediately.
I can't do that with fender or gibson.

Play what you dig.
Best comment yet. Well said, bm (though if I may slightly amend your response, it would be: ... can't do that with fender or gibson without first playing a dozen to find the good one).

telecopter
12-14-2008, 08:09 AM
Oh great, the weekly PRS Bashing ressurected.

Best production guitars made IMO, toneful and I could pull damn near any of them off the rack and gig immediately.
I can't do that with fender or gibson.

Play what you dig.


AMEN my man. :RoCkIn :RoCkIn

Thwap
12-14-2008, 08:25 AM
As has been said, they're nicely made guitars, that raised the quality bar to a degree for the guitar establishment, and inspired some smaller builders to take a crack at this whole guitar thing...that's a big deal.

Whether they've lost their cool, well a guitar, to me, is about as cool as what I hear the player putting through it.

So some are very cool, others not so much.:D

blhm84
12-14-2008, 08:28 AM
equal to a run of the mill Ibanez? Ibanez makes fine guitars, and are exceptional for their price, but between all of the mass produced high end guitars, PRS's quality is hand above the rest. If you didn't like it because of the tone that's one thing because its so subjective, but you would have to be blind to say that PRS are of inferior quality

Barefoot
12-14-2008, 11:35 AM
The fact of PRS's success in the marketplace says lots of players (doctors or otherwise) think they're cool.

Like previous posters said, PRS brought something to the marketplace that motivated a lot of new builders to get into the game (that's cool) and motivated the established big two to do better (that's cool).

PRS is starting to do a lot of small runs and bringing out new models that go different directions compared to the formula of the CU24.....Give PRS another 25 years and we won't be having this discussion. And all you guys will be in your rocking chairs wishing you had kept you PRS old wood and trying to remember where you put the viagra.

This is the perennial TGP version of get off my lawn.....kid.

:banana:band:banana

Michael T
12-14-2008, 12:08 PM
I am a Dr....of Archaeology....and like PRS.

I am in my late 30's and did not grow up idolizing Jimmy Page, Eric Clapton or Dicky Betts or other 60's early 70's era Gibson guys. For me the Les Paul = Slash and the SG = Angus Young...neither player is an influence on me in any way. PRS was just starting out when I just started playing and I thought that was really cool....when I saw Ted Nugent using one at a Damn Yankees show I was amazed at how cool his guitar sounded....Heart headlined that show and Howard Leese used a PRS and his guitar sounded amazing to me. A few weeks later I saw Al Dimeola and he was using PRS....once again I was floored. Later on I saw David Grissom and, once again, was floored by his playing and tone. All of those experiences were PRS related.

My newest PRS.


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a152/Archeroffish/PRSkgkjgkg.jpg


Another one of mine:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a152/Archeroffish/PRStop-1.jpg

...they are great guitars and YES they look good. There is nothing wrong with wanting and liking stuff that look nice to you....how many of you went hunting for the ugliest woman you cold find to fall in love with and marry? Probably not many. I'd venture a guess and say NONE OF YOU.

If someone doesnt like PRS...I really don't care. I like the guitars, I like the company and (going by interviews I have seen and read) like Paul Smith as a person. If someone tells me that they dont like PRS I tell them that their opinion is cool but has no influence on me in any way.

I like PRS and, to me, that is all that matters.

TNJ
12-14-2008, 06:28 PM
I bought a new 10 top Custom 22 (cherry sunburst) with birds/trem last week for a jaw dropping Holiday Sale price. The sales guy (upgrade from dood) was one of the nicest, and most informed GC employees I've dealt with in awhile. Anyway...no setup, just straight to the gig 4 hours later.
Spectacular...hand in glove experience. Action/string gauge just right.
4 gigs later...same. Now my rock harem consists of 2 PRS Custom 22's. String breaks on the Purple Beast, put her down and pick up Cherry.
'nuff said.

LOVE IT, and LOVE PRS guitars.

S.
j

Blueser
12-14-2008, 07:19 PM
I have been playing PRS McCarty's exclusively for the past year and a half. They are by far the most versatile guitars I have ever played. They consistently play great, and are very vibey guitars. I own four of them in various configurations, and don't see myself ever looking back.

I sold off all my Strats, and my R8 sits in the case. Between the Fralin Unbuckers in split coil mode, and the PAF in the bridge, this guitar does every sound I could want with a sweet resonant vibe.

I also love their P90 McCarty. I have Fralin's in those as well, and could not be happier!

If PRS has lost their cool, then count me as part of the uncool club.

peacebone
12-14-2008, 08:06 PM
I absolutely adore my PRS. Just holding it and playing around is inspiring. If people don't think it's cool, then whatevs :NUTS


http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/8062/cimg3848ld5.jpg


http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/2431/cimg3861ig6.jpg

NuSkoolTone
12-14-2008, 10:29 PM
Personally I think PRS has gotten too expensive. Pricewise they are catching up to Gibson. Yes I think they're overpriced too. However I would have FAR more confidence in a PRS being "good" off the rack than a Gibson.

phoenix 7
12-15-2008, 12:11 AM
I've owned a couple PRS's. Really good guitars, but I thought they looked kind of dorky. So I agree with your friend.

Defendant
12-15-2008, 03:50 AM
I've been in situations where toting a PRS isn't the right look to have. There's is definitely a perception among many players that they somehow aren't cool in some way. Much of that must come from the common perception that PRS makes expensive furniture guitars for blues lawyers, but I think it's just as much to do with the surge in PRS use during the nu-metal era and continued use by faceless modern rock acts like 3 doors down and nickelback, bands that are unhip almost by definition.

I often wonder if Paul regrets tying his mast to nu-metal. Designs like the Starla and Mira suggests that he recognises there is a perception problem for many players with his more commonly used designs.

Of course, this does not affect the intrinsic qualities of the guitars. PRS have consistently produced some of the most well made, well conceived instruments of the modern era.

Personally, I think things will eventually cycle around for PRS, despite the nu-metal and Nickelback damage. I'm guessing it's going to take time, but the guitars are too good to be dismissed forever. I'm sure they will be perceived as classic instruments in time.

Jiffy_Jeff
12-16-2008, 04:26 AM
Oh great, the weekly PRS Bashing ressurected.

Best production guitars made IMO, toneful and I could pull damn near any of them off the rack and gig immediately.
I can't do that with fender or gibson.

Play what you dig.


Your right. I went to GC a few weeks back and played a few. Right off the rack, they all felt good. Played some other brands.... They needed a good set up.......


On another note: Man the raiders are on some hards times right now too..

jnug
12-16-2008, 04:53 AM
i could care less what any body else thinks, i play prs guitar for the tone and playability, been down the gibson/fender route and their not for me in more ways than one.

Blueser
12-16-2008, 04:54 AM
I've been in situations where toting a PRS isn't the right look to have. There's is definitely a perception among many players that they somehow aren't cool in some way. Much of that must come from the common perception that PRS makes expensive furniture guitars for blues lawyers, but I think it's just as much to do with the surge in PRS use during the nu-metal era and continued use by faceless modern rock acts like 3 doors down and nickelback, bands that are unhip almost by definition.

I often wonder if Paul regrets tying his mast to nu-metal. Designs like the Starla and Mira suggests that he recognises there is a perception problem for many players with his more commonly used designs.

Of course, this does not affect the intrinsic qualities of the guitars. PRS have consistently produced some of the most well made, well conceived instruments of the modern era.

Personally, I think things will eventually cycle around for PRS, despite the nu-metal and Nickelback damage. I'm guessing it's going to take time, but the guitars are too good to be dismissed forever. I'm sure they will be perceived as classic instruments in time.

This is the same place that the Gibson Les Paul was in the 1980's. Everyone was playing Floyd equipped Strato variations with pointed headstocks and razor thin necks. At that point, the Les Paul was for geezers.

This whole thing is cyclical. In the meanwhile, I will enjoy the hell out of my McCarty's until they become "cool" again.

phillygtr
12-16-2008, 09:04 AM
I have no problem with PRS. I just wish they offered more models with the "Santana style" headstock.

Figher53
12-16-2008, 11:46 AM
I've been in situations where toting a PRS isn't the right look to have. There's is definitely a perception among many players that they somehow aren't cool in some way. Much of that must come from the common perception that PRS makes expensive furniture guitars for blues lawyers, but I think it's just as much to do with the surge in PRS use during the nu-metal era and continued use by faceless modern rock acts like 3 doors down and nickelback, bands that are unhip almost by definition.

I often wonder if Paul regrets tying his mast to nu-metal. Designs like the Starla and Mira suggests that he recognises there is a perception problem for many players with his more commonly used designs.

Of course, this does not affect the intrinsic qualities of the guitars. PRS have consistently produced some of the most well made, well conceived instruments of the modern era.

Personally, I think things will eventually cycle around for PRS, despite the nu-metal and Nickelback damage. I'm guessing it's going to take time, but the guitars are too good to be dismissed forever. I'm sure they will be perceived as classic instruments in time.

Wow, well said...

prsnstrat
12-16-2008, 11:49 AM
I always come back to my PRS. Others will come and go.

shaneygoo
12-16-2008, 12:04 PM
bird inlays will always be cool

jlagrassa
12-16-2008, 12:14 PM
I think PRS is a great company with quality product, I definitely like my McCarty over my Les Paul for looks, feel and tone!

Paul Conway
12-16-2008, 12:26 PM
I've always loathed the 'PRS sound', but admired the build quality. Really, who cares if someone thinks the design is uncool? If you do like the guitars, won't this 'they're not cool' thing mean lower secondhand prices for you?

russiancrowe
12-16-2008, 12:30 PM
If a guitar is comfortable to play, is well built, and sounds good to the person playing it, who give a flying rats ass if anyone else thinks it's cool. I just don't understand why people worry so much about what others think. Think for yourselves, form your own opinions.

Michael T
12-16-2008, 04:07 PM
if a guitar is comfortable to play, is well built, and sounds good to the person playing it, who give a flying rats ass if anyone else thinks it's cool. I just don't understand why people worry so much about what others think. Think for yourselves, form your own opinions.

+ 1

Dr. Tweedbucket
12-16-2008, 06:24 PM
PRS guitars look like nice guitars, I've played them in the store but never bought one.

I have too much a love for the old crispy Gibsons and Fenders that were used to supply the tone for the greatest rock and roll songs in history !! :love:

stevieboy
12-16-2008, 07:24 PM
I have to say that if I wanted to find if something is cool or not, and internet discussion board is about the last place I'd look.

Not that everyone here isn't cool, but cmon, it's an internet discussion board.

As far as PRS goes, never owned one, but I've seen a few that I liked. All I need is another guitar brand to be interested in! Most likely candidate if I ever was to buy one--a black McCarty soapbar.

Michael T
12-16-2008, 07:49 PM
I have to say that if I wanted to find if something is cool or not, and internet discussion board is about the last place I'd look.

Not that everyone here isn't cool, but cmon, it's an internet discussion board.

As far as PRS goes, never owned one, but I've seen a few that I liked. All I need is another guitar brand to be interested in! Most likely candidate if I ever was to buy one--a black McCarty soapbar.

You are right, talking with other guitarists to find out what is hot on the market isnt a way to learn what is cool......

stevieboy
12-16-2008, 08:13 PM
You are right, talking with other guitarists to find out what is hot on the market isnt a way to learn what is cool......

Hey, I've spent a lot of time here myself. The thread is about "cool" not hot on the market, or good quality or tone, or playability, or what ever else of many things which you can learn a lot about here. I just don't equate that particular concept with hanging around the internet--and since I do hang around the internet, you can draw your own conclusions about that.

tbp0701
12-16-2008, 08:39 PM
Yup, they're no longer cool. In fact, they're downright uncool. Squaresville, even. Just. Total. Balookas, dude.

It's a bummer, I know. But I'll tell you what. If any of you are unfortunate enough to have, say, a Custom 22, or maybe a McCarty or even an SE Semi Hollow, which have to be the unhippest of the uncool PRSs, and you can't bare to be associated with them, go ahead and send them to to me. I'll take care of them.

You see, I have experience as an uncool musician. I started on clarinet.

It'll be a tough bullet to take, but I'm up to it.

(And those whale blue McCarty hollowbodies? Or just the simple natural satins? Yeah, you can't let those damage your image any longer. Vintage tweed and brown Princetons are also uncool, by the way. Just saying.)

If I get more than I can handle, I'll just start an "uncool guitars for musicians who can take it" fund.

(If you're wondering why you've never heard "Balookas" before, don't worry. You're not out of the loop; I just made it up).

XKnight
12-16-2008, 09:10 PM
PRS Lost its Cool??

Absolutely! As of today, I traded away my last PRS so they clearly cannot be cool anymore. They will become cool again when I get another.

myway
12-16-2008, 10:01 PM
I had a PRS CE for about a year and a half. It played and sounded allright. But in the end it was just not my thing. I thought it lacked vibe IMO. I sold it and purchased a LP . Maybe it is just a mental thing. But remember, what is "Un-cool" today, is worth the big bucks tomorrow.

purestmonk
12-16-2008, 10:08 PM
i played about 5 to 6 prs 2 days ago. sad to say, there're really bad sounding guitars. very thin sounding, no punch at all.
i wasnt amazed with the setup from factory as well

JPF
12-17-2008, 01:26 AM
Bummer. I'm so happy that has never happened to me. Bad luck, dude.

HeeHaw
12-17-2008, 04:34 AM
I tried and tried to bond with my PRS SC, but in the end only a Fender or a Gipsun is good enough for me.

TeleZilla
04-12-2009, 07:20 PM
I am still baffled by the Ibanez comment. I have recently bought a PRS DGT and am in LOOOOOOOVE! I have owned PRS is the past(mostly McCartys. McCarties, MCCartai unsure of the plural) and found them to be a little muddy in the mix. I have teles, strats, les pauls and a 335 now and added the Grissom last month and I must say this PRS is the bees knees. It has got it all tone, feel, comfort the whole she-bang!!! Play one if you haven't it has made some of my guitars trade bait. This is just my humble opinion, but you can NEVER compare PRS,Gibson or Fender to Ibanez, sorry not the same league.

jumpnblues
04-12-2009, 07:39 PM
I've only played a few PRS models and I thought they were all excellent. Not necessarily better than a good Gibson but as good as anything I'd played. I remember playing a PRS Hollow Body II and how resonant and alive it sounded. Beautiful tone. If I could afford another expensive guitar (I can't) I would certainly give serious consideration to a PRS. But now there are so many top notch, high end, guitars it would be pretty difficult to make a choice. But that PRS Hollow Body II made an impression on me.


Tom

ohshait
04-12-2009, 07:42 PM
ill settle for being uncool anyday:dude my prs isnt going anywhere, naysayers can talk to someone else

JoeB63
04-12-2009, 07:44 PM
So in summary: Some people like PRSs, and some people don't*




*As opposed to some other guitar that everyone likes, right?

mudster
04-12-2009, 07:50 PM
Cool factor was lost last century.
Wish I still had mine though :)

Jiffy_Jeff
04-12-2009, 08:27 PM
Cant believe this thread still gets some bumps!!!

And yes, My PRS is still Cool!!

webe123
04-12-2009, 08:39 PM
Cant believe this thread still gets some bumps!!!

And yes, My PRS is still Cool!!

I think the people that don't like PRS guitars have their own reasons, but I have my own reasons for LIKING them.

So it goes both ways.

markw1980
04-12-2009, 08:59 PM
I don't rely on others to tell me what is cool. :) Seriously, though, I would love another McCarty.

1973Marshall
04-13-2009, 02:56 PM
There's no way they haven't lost some cool. Sure, they are respected and many Nashville players and modern rock and endorsees are using them.

On the other hand - I have not had any guitar of mine spark as much controversy as the PRS. I pull out my old LP or Strat RI's or Teles and you get that common respect factor that you would expect. PRS you get everything from oh wow this is gorgeous, to oh rich kid's guitar, to oh its too midrangey or lacks the fullness or this and that of a Strat or LP etc etc.

There was a time when PRS in 90s struck awe into people like it was a dream guitar.

kurtsstuff
04-13-2009, 03:39 PM
I tried to like them 7 or 8 times total.....Just didn't like them
something was missing??

In Tune
04-13-2009, 03:53 PM
My Sweet Switch Makes me Happy as a lark. Try one and see.:band

Aslan
04-13-2009, 06:19 PM
Love my Santana MD and my DGT, it's purely a matter of taste! Wouldn't trade either for top of the line Gibson or Fender Custom shop model.

bluesjuke
04-13-2009, 06:32 PM
An electric Cigar Box Guitar can move an audience more than a $3k flametop whoop-de-do axe. I've seen it done.


Amen Brother and done well!

Zilmo
04-13-2009, 06:37 PM
Snobs are funny.

Tag
04-13-2009, 08:53 PM
I Love my Paul Reed Smiths!! :dude

matte
04-13-2009, 09:01 PM
paul's original design was brilliant. in a time of jacksons with japanese flags, paul went backward and forward @ once. the time honoured eastern maple/honduras mahogany/brazilian rosewood recipe, with
*straight stringpull headstock
*locking tuners
*6 point trem with notched screws and knife point edge
*25" scale length

became the basis for all of my main guitars from the likes of michael stevens, gene baker and johan gustavsson (i just added a string, a thicker back/thinner top, binding, etc.)

i think of the original prs guitars are being a progression of the sg. joe knaggs built me some great guitars when i was on board as a prs endorsee.

franksguitar
04-13-2009, 09:05 PM
I own a PRS, several Gibsons (Les Paul, ES335 and a Firebird V, Fenders (several strats & Teles) and a Tom Anderson and a few other misc axes. So I have several choices. My PRS a 20th Anniversary CE24 Maple top Antique Yellow flame is a great axe and play it often.

bobbypols
04-13-2009, 09:21 PM
I cant stand PRS. Quality is great - no doubt, but thier sound is not for me. All the more power to those who like them though.

aaron1433
04-13-2009, 09:26 PM
I dig mine a lot, although I modded it somewhat.

Betos
04-13-2009, 11:50 PM
An electric Cigar Box Guitar can move an audience more than a $3k flametop whoop-de-do axe. I've seen it done.



I'll swap you cigar boxes for PRSi all day long.

1973Marshall
04-14-2009, 02:43 AM
Like I said these PRS guitars inspire controversy

Realfi
04-14-2009, 02:48 AM
PRS Guitars are fine, professional, well conceived and crafted instruments that don't seem to have the tone that I'm after.

That they do or don't inspire you to play the guitar should surely be the only criteria.

In Tune
04-14-2009, 06:55 AM
Like I said these PRS guitars inspire controversy
No they dont. Wait , Yes They do. :rimshot

Stinky Kitty
04-14-2009, 07:16 AM
I wonder if a carpenter ever bought a hammer because "it was cool?" Guitars are tools, if they weren't...no need to put strings on 'em.

GreenKnight18
04-14-2009, 07:29 AM
I wonder if a carpenter ever bought a hammer because "it was cool?" Guitars are tools, if they weren't...no need to put strings on 'em.

I'm not a carpenter, but some tools look cooler than others. I figure if hammer 1 and hammer 2 do the same thing and hammer 2 looks more interesting, I'll get that one.

Oh, and I'm sure hammer 2 will have better sustain and tone as well.

Gavin
04-14-2009, 09:32 AM
PRSi are just flashy guitars for wealthy carpenter bedroom remodelers.

swimrunner
04-14-2009, 09:42 AM
PRSi are just flashy guitars for wealthy carpenter bedroom remodelers.and the flaming begins anew. congratulations. :facepalm

masayako
04-14-2009, 09:49 AM
I agree. Not cool at all 'cos all these PRS guitars will still look brand new years after. What's the point?? No personal touch. I enjoy my fender / gibson much more.

Nope....Nadda...Not Cool at all!!!!

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r312/Teasme4764/Family2007.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r312/Teasme4764/McCartyAlabaster2001.jpg

big mike
04-14-2009, 09:51 AM
I agree. Not cool at all 'cos all these PRS guitars will still look brand new years after. What's the point?? No personal touch. I enjoy my fender / gibson much more.

That would be incorrect.

(Why am I wading back into this...:facepalm)

My Cu22 the finish has sunk into the grain, there's definite wear in places. It's got a personality to it. Best production guitar I've ever played. It's awesome.

MrDoty
04-14-2009, 10:10 AM
It's funny, I never thought PRS had any "cool" to being with, at least by reputation. People always scoffed at PRS as for Investment Bankers and lawyers to hang on their walls.

Fine by me - I'm not an investment Banker or lawyer, and my PRS Custom 22 can do anything - from Zakk Wylde brutal metal, to 80's shred, to classic Rock, blues, funk, country and jazz. Try getting your unmodded Strat or Les Paul to do that!

I can even get great Van Halen tremelo dive bombs and the things stays in tune, and the PRS tremelo is floating, yet other notes don't bend the heck out of tune when I'm bending one with the bar...and I don't have to unclamp and cut the ball ends off a string when I break one. In fact, with the locking tuners, changing a string takes about 20 seconds.

It's incredibly easy to play and I happen to like my emerald green flamed maple top and gold hardware.

So too bad to the scoffers I say.


I have to agree I always come back to my prs because it really is just a perfect guitar all around. the trem is prefect in feel and function. its comfortable to play, fret access is amazing, the tone is really good ( i get compliments on it all the time), its an extremely versitile guitar. its well made and its beautiful. what more do you want.

masayako
04-14-2009, 10:11 AM
I agree. Nothing is cooler than a well-used Les Paul, Strat or Tele.

:agree

masayako
04-14-2009, 10:17 AM
Just to clarify.... our guitars are for still playing music and not fashion accessories?


Guitar is as much a fashion statement on stage as everything else.

Imagine one day, Eric Clapton playing a Yamaha electric, you will see 500 threads here talking about it. So, it does matter. Music & fashion goes hand in hand.

masayako
04-14-2009, 10:20 AM
No, you misunderstand. With over 10 PRS guitars, it's near impossible to wear them out. If you have 1 or 2, sure. Also, they are too pretty to put a ding on it.

That would be incorrect.

(Why am I wading back into this...:facepalm)

My Cu22 the finish has sunk into the grain, there's definite wear in places. It's got a personality to it. Best production guitar I've ever played. It's awesome.

Gavin
04-14-2009, 11:08 AM
and the flaming begins anew. congratulations. :facepalm


Not so fast......here's a picture of my '85 and '87. Guess I should have used a "smiley face" icon.


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/gavininson/DSC_0326.jpg

Knuckles
04-14-2009, 12:06 PM
I agree. Not cool at all 'cos all these PRS guitars will still look brand new years after. What's the point?? No personal touch.

No personal touch?

You really have no idea what you're talking about, do you?

Those guitars all get gigged regularly.

Ken
04-14-2009, 12:06 PM
This is the best Production Guitar I have played and now own...I bought this over lots of other guitars I tried, like L.P.'s, McNaughts and Thorns.

Not every guitar is going to work the same for everyone.

This is a great guitar for the gigging player:


http://www.thestudiorock.com/dgt2.JPG

big mike
04-14-2009, 12:07 PM
No personal touch?

You really have no idea what you're talking about, do you?

Those guitars all get gigged regularly.


Sure you know, because 3tone sunburst strats are all so personal looking.

big mike
04-14-2009, 12:09 PM
No, you misunderstand. With over 10 PRS guitars, it's near impossible to wear them out. If you have 1 or 2, sure. Also, they are too pretty to put a ding on it.

Dinged the F out of mine several times. head stock, side, face, back...it's got gig wounds. Was my #1 until my Thorn was finished.

swimrunner
04-14-2009, 12:54 PM
Not so fast......here's a picture of my '85 and '87. Guess I should have used a "smiley face" icon.


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/gavininson/DSC_0326.jpgwow in hindsight i'm surprised that got me. internet sarcasm is hard sometimes though. sorry.

Knuckles
04-14-2009, 01:03 PM
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/gavininson/DSC_0326.jpg

Silver Jubilee head, cab and matching platinum PRS?

I think I just wet myself a bit.

Gavin
04-14-2009, 01:03 PM
wow in hindsight i'm surprised that got me. internet sarcasm is hard sometimes though. sorry.

No need to apologize.:AOK I thought it was pretty funny....in a sarcastic way.

Impulse 101
04-14-2009, 01:21 PM
I still love my CE24 maple. It's been my primary stunt guitar for years. Everything that I used a Floyd Rose equiped strat for I use the CE for now. I bought it in spite of its reputation, not because of it. I'm not going to sell it for the same reason.

JT

haymaker
04-14-2009, 01:59 PM
Wait . . . PRS was cool?

GreenKnight18
04-14-2009, 02:16 PM
Wait . . . PRS was cool?

Snicker. Mullets are cool too right?

Betos
04-14-2009, 02:34 PM
...as soon as you're worried about being cool, you aren't.


~Betos

Gavin
04-14-2009, 03:30 PM
........ matching platinum PRS?

I think I just wet myself a bit.

Actually, the color is called Silver Pearl and was only offered for a few months in the end of 1987. Really cool color...never seen another.

IT'S OFFICIAL...PRS ARE NOW COOL....OR AT LEAST SILVER PEARL IS.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/gavininson/73191frontclose.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/gavininson/DSC_0328.jpg

WILLIEKENDRICK
04-14-2009, 05:00 PM
They're great guitars, they are just NOT for me. It seems like everyone and their mom plays one now-a-days.

sublimeaudio
04-14-2009, 09:27 PM
I was searching for a guitar with humbuckers for a while and came across a PRS Mccarty Korina a few months ago. I played a bunch of PRS models, including the new ones with the 57/08 pickups, but there's something about the sound of the Korina that really works for me. It's nice and light, has a great (wide/fat) neck, and is very balanced. The mids are really nice on the Korinas, which I think is why I like the sound of mine so much. My main problem with humbucking guitars in general is that the sound is either too dark, or too much bass and treble - not the case with the Korina model. I also like the fact that the Korinas are less fancy than most PRS guitars. Being mainly a Tele guy, I don't really go for all of the flash.

pfflam
04-14-2009, 09:29 PM
Were PRSs ever cool?

Zilmo
04-14-2009, 09:33 PM
Were PRSs ever cool?


Everywhere but Portland.

pfflam
04-14-2009, 09:39 PM
Everywhere but Portland.
I suppose my little snark deserves this response

then I guess I'm to follow through with a "ewwwww burrrrned"
or something :rimshot

jnug
04-14-2009, 09:39 PM
i think the oooo and ahhhh factor has worn off and they are more common now. i like PRS, good quality guitars.

1973Marshall
04-14-2009, 11:01 PM
I wonder if a carpenter ever bought a hammer because "it was cool?" Guitars are tools, if they weren't...no need to put strings on 'em.


Look at music and music photography or all the eras where different brands or looks were in.

Are we really pretending that music and fashion aren't tied together? Guitar players are as superficial as it gets. Wait til the vintage thing is out, and everyone is tryin' to rock PRS's.

I think PRS's are kinda in a fringe area right now since all Fenders are all the rage alongside Les Pauls. You never know, one day Incubus will go back to PRS and all hell will break loose.

Knuckles
04-14-2009, 11:25 PM
Everywhere but Portland.

Hey, wait a minute....

Serious Poo
04-14-2009, 11:57 PM
PRS was NEVER cool.

Yeah, you're right. PRS's aren't cool. In fact, I should probably get rid of this one...

:jo

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/3024/img1146jn7.jpg

jcoggins7
04-15-2009, 12:00 AM
Man every time I see that guitar I think that it has the coolest top ever.

webe123
04-15-2009, 02:55 AM
Yeah, you're right. PRS's aren't cool. In fact, I should probably get rid of this one...

:jo

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/3024/img1146jn7.jpg

You are absolutely correct! Just send me that PRS piece of junk and I will make sure it is taken care of! LOL!

Stringz
04-15-2009, 03:58 AM
You should see what Ed Roman at Ed Roman Guitars has to say about PRS. He says something to the effect of PRS is not a high end guitar maker. They may have been in the beginning, but now they just crank out mass produced guitars for the lowest possible cost and skimp on materials and features that you would expect to be included for the price you pay. They have the same problem Gibson does where they think if they charge a high price people will flock to them with the impression that they must be great guitars. Smaller firms can often make you a much better guitar for the same price because they have to keep their costs as low as possible. Some smaller firms "standard" models are as good as or better than some of the big boys custom shop stuff and cost you a lot less. Taking out ads month after month in all the guitar magazines costs millions a year, and who do you think pays for that? You do through higher prices, lower quality, or both which is why many small firms don't advertise to the same extent that the bigger companies do. I'd rather they put that money into their guitars than into a page in a magazine that I will read once and then throw away.

USP45Tim
04-15-2009, 04:31 AM
Not too many people listen to what that douchebag has to say.

JPF
04-15-2009, 04:41 AM
I stopped worrying about being cool as a teenager once I finally got laid.

Stinky Kitty
04-15-2009, 06:38 AM
Cool? Off the top of my head...Jimmy, Gary Moore, Slash and John Sykes with a Les Paul; Ritchie, Eric C, Jeff, David, and Yngwie with a Strat; Angus with an SG, Keith, Prince and Brad with a Tele, Carlos with a PRS and Michael with a Flying V.

Without talent behind the wood, a guitar is nothing more than a bookend with curves. What makes a PRS cool....watching a 40-yr road warrior putting a CE through its paces at Chuck Levin's or a rich collector visiting Sam Ash trying to decide whether he wants the Whale Blue "10" top or the Brazilian rosewood model because hell...the bookmatch is perfect?

chetchetney
04-16-2009, 12:02 AM
My PRS Custom 22 is badass, and it shits on your piece of shit.

robelinda2
04-16-2009, 12:12 AM
Well I wasnt much of a fan of PRS, but my DGT just kicks ass, so PRS are way cool now!

dr.morton
04-16-2009, 12:21 AM
You should see what Ed Roman at Ed Roman Guitars has to say about PRS. He says something to the effect of PRS is not a high end guitar maker. They may have been in the beginning, but now they just crank out mass produced guitars for the lowest possible cost and skimp on materials and features that you would expect to be included for the price you pay. They have the same problem Gibson does where they think if they charge a high price people will flock to them with the impression that they must be great guitars. Smaller firms can often make you a much better guitar for the same price because they have to keep their costs as low as possible. Some smaller firms "standard" models are as good as or better than some of the big boys custom shop stuff and cost you a lot less. Taking out ads month after month in all the guitar magazines costs millions a year, and who do you think pays for that? You do through higher prices, lower quality, or both which is why many small firms don't advertise to the same extent that the bigger companies do. I'd rather they put that money into their guitars than into a page in a magazine that I will read once and then throw away.

You should check the net and not just this forum to see what people have to say about Ed "Mr. Rip-off" Roman...

webe123
04-16-2009, 02:15 AM
You should see what Ed Roman at Ed Roman Guitars has to say about PRS.

And you should read about what most guitar players on the net says about that jerk also!

He is a troll, pure and simple.

And his quicksilver guitars are a laugh!

Cheebatone
04-16-2009, 03:46 AM
PRS guitars have definitely lost their cool. You should all sell them at whatever ridiculously lowball offers you recieve just to get them out of sight and so you can rid yourselves of the shame of ever owning them. Go to the 'Emporium' over on BaM and start out doing each-other with market deflatingly low asking prices immediately...

:munch

Swifty
04-21-2009, 01:47 PM
Well I wasnt much of a fan of PRS, but my DGT just kicks ass, so PRS are way cool now!

DGT -> cable -> any any half-assed tube amp, apply fingers to strings & attempt to wipe goofy uncool grin off face. End of discussion / end of dumbass thread!

Aquinas
04-21-2009, 03:40 PM
(begin the flagellation of a dead, dead, deceased equine)
Why does everyone seem to go on about the "prs sound"? I mean, Cu24's, the "original" factory PRS, do have a certain sound, but is that anything like the McCarty's or SC or Mira or Starla? Or even the Cu22 for that matter?

Jesus, I think the reason most people don't like 'em (the ones who don't at least) have the mistaken impression that they are more overpriced than the Gibby and Fender "Custom" Shops - which is where you find [almost, arguably] comparable QC and attention to detail. They are PRODUCTION instruments, so comparing them to Suhrs, etc. doesn't make all that much sense.

All in all, none of my 3 PRSi sound anything like each other, all play great, all sound great (though the 513 can be a tad sterile through some amps - I hate the way it sounds into a twin or JMP, for instance), all have plenty of "mojo" for my playing, and were only slightly overpriced. In fact, the Cu22soapie, my main guitar, was the cheapest of the three, and I still think is the best looking...
Not to mention the fact that it sounds NOTHING like the "PRS sound".

Gratuitous shot of me playing the Soapie...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3542/3463506822_86205bcf1f_o.jpg

joesnewmatch
04-21-2009, 06:17 PM
I think PRS is cooler than ever. I have a McCarty Soapbar from '98 and a Sunburst 245 that was born just a couple a months ago. Neither have the "PRS sound" mentioned above. Both are incredibly cool, have their own mojo, and make me smile whenever I pick them up. The Sunburst 245 is, IMHO, cooler than any of the competition, hands down. What's cooler than stunning good looks, fantastic quality control, confort, playability -- and, oh yeah, seriously killer tones?

Jiffy_Jeff
04-22-2009, 09:45 PM
nice hat AQ

guitarz_dave
04-23-2009, 12:37 AM
No single brand has more "soul" than any other.

Guitars don't have "soul" or "vibe" or "mojo" in and of themselves. If you find an attachment to an instrument, and it speaks to you...you create your own "mojo" by loving it and playing it. It can only bring out wht you have in yourself.

Kind of like the classic story of "The Velveteen Rabbit" I suppose.

guitarz_dave
04-23-2009, 01:06 AM
:phonesInteresting thread as it seems to have a lot of "elbows" (ie, strong reactions). How much is due to brand perceptions vs playing experience? Any topic that provokes so many strong feelings like this makes me wonder what drives that. A great LP, Tele, Strat, Gretsch, Ric, 335, L5, Suhr, etc have extremely devoted players, as well as those who prefer other axes, but do not seem to elicit knee jerk negative comments (so why does PRS?). I've gone through many guitars and really like my McCarty for what it is. I play a number of styles on it and get a lot of pleasure doing so. Funny thing was in a former band we would record our live stuff and regardless of which guitar I brought (McCarty, 336, Strat, Tele) it still sounded very much like me. The mojo or lack had to do whether I was having a good or just a mediocre playing session, and did not seem to have to do with the guitar. If I was playing well, then any of those guitars were cool and had mojo that session. The McCarty certainly has unique characteristics that were different from my other guitars, and I enjoyed them all. Bottom line - I think GUITARS are cool, regardless of which particular one it is. That said, I play a McCarty and like it, and you may feel the same way or strongly prefer a different one. But if we disagree on which guitars we like, I will still think your guitar is cool as long as you are putting your heart into your playing and that comes through the music.

ImmortalSix
04-23-2009, 08:12 AM
I think they are cooler than ever, right now, today.

Their list prices are fair, and they have just diversified the hell out of their lineup to include tons of options, and added many new models, most of which are player's guitars, plain and simple.

I own an SE Soapbar right now, and I have all the usual suspects in my stable (Strat, 335, Strat-Tele Mutt, Superstrat) but I keep getting the feeling my next guitar will be a PRS, because, unlike some, ahem, more mainstream producers, they are working hard on adding meaningful changes to their guitars, their product line, and their business and distribution plans.

-Hunter

CharAznable
04-23-2009, 08:20 AM
You should see what Ed Roman at Ed Roman Guitars has to say about PRS. He says something to the effect of PRS is not a high end guitar maker. They may have been in the beginning, but now they just crank out mass produced guitars for the lowest possible cost and skimp on materials and features that you would expect to be included for the price you pay. They have the same problem Gibson does where they think if they charge a high price people will flock to them with the impression that they must be great guitars. Smaller firms can often make you a much better guitar for the same price because they have to keep their costs as low as possible. Some smaller firms "standard" models are as good as or better than some of the big boys custom shop stuff and cost you a lot less. Taking out ads month after month in all the guitar magazines costs millions a year, and who do you think pays for that? You do through higher prices, lower quality, or both which is why many small firms don't advertise to the same extent that the bigger companies do. I'd rather they put that money into their guitars than into a page in a magazine that I will read once and then throw away.

You FAIL for invoking Ed Roman as an authority.

big mike
04-23-2009, 08:22 AM
You FAIL for invoking Ed Roman as an authority.

Pretty much.

I don't hold stock in the comments of someone that has to post an apology to a company on their website for defrauding their clients by selling fakes.

Tyler
04-23-2009, 09:52 AM
Yes; I've had 3 PRS guitars; all were pretty guitars, but unremarkable in tone & playability. I'll stick to my Fenders/Gibsons.

Funny, mine's exactly the opposite: nothing to look at, but when it sings, it turns heads. (on the right: '89 CE 24). It might not be the sound/feel you're after, but I kinda dislike pretty guitars, anyway. I don't want to raise expectations just by opening the case.:p
http://gallery.photo.net/photo/2778479-md.jpg

big mike
04-23-2009, 09:59 AM
Honestly Tyler, that would be the first axe I pickup in that room. While I mainly play thorns now, as far as production guitars, my PRS is the most comfortable off the rack guitar I"ve ever owned. That and teles is about it. can't stand my Lester...but it's got sentimental value.

sanhozay
04-23-2009, 10:32 AM
http://gallery.photo.net/photo/2778479-md.jpg

What a great photo! So warm and organic. The black guitar channeling Satan looks reborn and content. Almost shy looking. Must be the brownness setting off the non-more blackness.

YYZ
04-23-2009, 03:24 PM
Anyone read any quotes from Alex Lifeson as to why he left PRS and went back to Les Paul's?

CharAznable
04-23-2009, 07:55 PM
Anyone read any quotes from Alex Lifeson as to why he left PRS and went back to Les Paul's?

It is not for us mortals to fathom the workings of star endorsements.

Still, I've seen him live lately playing PRS, Gibson and even Fender

Wizard of Ozz
04-23-2009, 09:23 PM
I just keep these around as conversation pieces...

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r88/1987JMP/prsgroup1.jpg

:rotflmao:rotflmao:rotflmao

Cheebatone
04-24-2009, 03:36 AM
Anyone read any quotes from Alex Lifeson as to why he left PRS and went back to Les Paul's?

Yes, basically he said he was fed up of playing his CE24 and fancied moving back to a more Gibson-y sound. This doesn't make the PRS a worse guitar from a Gibson, just different. I remember seeing him (for years) perfectly happily playing a Superstrat through a Gallien Krueger, but times and tastes change ...and everything's subjective.

Look at it this way; Rubens Barrichello went from Ferrari to Honda - that doesn't make the Accord a better car than a 360 Modena, does it? Well, actually, yes it does in certain circumstances. Grocery shopping and taking kindergarden kids to school would be a nightmare in a 360. Then again, jewellery shopping and taking teenagers to school in a Ferrari would be the coolest thing ever, for everyone involved.

Like I said, everything's subjective. I like Humbuckers, P-90's and all the other single coils, plus solid and hollow-bodied guitars. Nobody (to the best of my knowledge) makes one guitar that sounds like that and so I own a few of each so I have access to all the tones I want. Some of them fall out of favour from time-to-time and I'm sure that's an experience a lot of other people around here will have shared.

...only, very few of us are being paid to explain why. ;)

bsic
04-24-2009, 05:01 AM
I have two. I will never part with my custom22, i love the sound and feel of that. it feels like home. My Mccarty, however, just doesnt do it. looks great, but never got wowed by anything about it, even after a few pup swaps. going to trade it away.

Jiffy_Jeff
04-26-2009, 02:30 PM
I just keep these around as conversation pieces...

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r88/1987JMP/prsgroup1.jpg

:rotflmao:rotflmao:rotflmao


HEY------ I have the twin to the one on the right!!!!!!! You should send yours out so they can meet. And if it wants to stay it can............forever!! :Devil

Timmo
04-26-2009, 05:18 PM
Only owned one PRS. It was a lemonburst '87 Custom 24 and if I had only known that PRS pickups totally suck and always have, I might still have that baby.
I loved the way it played...........god those pu's sucked though.

Bobby D
04-26-2009, 06:39 PM
yes, in the early 90s, if you ask me.....

Brett Valentine
04-26-2009, 06:58 PM
. . . In fact, the Cu22soapie, my main guitar, was the cheapest of the three, and I still think is the best looking...
Not to mention the fact that it sounds NOTHING like the "PRS sound".

Gratuitous shot of me playing the Soapie...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3542/3463506822_86205bcf1f_o.jpg

Not that's a CD cover worthy pic!:BEER

Frankee
04-26-2009, 07:27 PM
I want one....a really fancy one, one of those private resreve numbers.....so I can kick the shit out of it.

Nick it, scuff it, scratch it, put stickies on it, stub out cigarettes on it......then post pictures of it here.

Intelligentpony
04-26-2009, 10:11 PM
It seems like everyone and their mom plays one now-a-days.
Unlike what, Les Pauls, Strats and Teles?

Jiffy_Jeff
04-30-2009, 09:53 AM
They're great guitars, they are just NOT for me. It seems like everyone and their mom plays one now-a-days.


I've never seen anyones mom play one..:knitting

khromagi
04-30-2009, 12:40 PM
they were cool?

Jiffy_Jeff
05-01-2009, 12:25 AM
they were cool?

Yes, all the way from the days when you thought you were cool.

khromagi
05-01-2009, 04:08 AM
Yes, all the way from the days when you thought you were cool.

I was never cool

Ahess86
05-01-2009, 04:14 AM
I played them as "one step above" guitar when I was looking for something w/ improvements over my fenders and gibsons. When that's your aim, to find a guitar thats one step above, there's plenty of room to go UP from PRS. I'd still dig a pre-92 custom 24, but other than that they're NOTHING special to me.

khromagi
05-01-2009, 04:50 AM
Actually I was dormant when they came out, so I missed all that.

Plus I play the most uncool guitars (actually they look more like PRS than anything else)

romo
05-01-2009, 07:29 AM
PRS lost its cool to me when I stopped listening to bands who only play in dropped C tuning. And PRS also reminds me of Creed and Nickelback, and I'd like to punch those bands in the face.

Jiffy_Jeff
05-03-2009, 10:42 PM
PRS lost its cool to me when I stopped listening to bands who only play in dropped C tuning. And PRS also reminds me of Creed and Nickelback, and I'd like to punch those bands in the face.

Tell us how you really feel!:D

robelinda2
05-03-2009, 11:47 PM
I must say, I first heard of PRS through Santana, then nothing for years, until all those late 90's nu metal bands started using them, and there were so many of them that it certainly gave me the impression that that sort of music was what PRS was good for. Guthrie Govan played a few for a number of years but his tone did nothing for me, then Hiland joined and thats when I really took notice. Took awhile to find the right PRS for me but so far the DGT ticks the boxes.

Cheebatone
05-05-2009, 04:27 AM
I want one....a really fancy one, one of those private resreve numbers.....so I can kick the shit out of it.

Nick it, scuff it, scratch it, put stickies on it, stub out cigarettes on it......then post pictures of it here.

...and you'll still have some way to go to match the abuse my Custom 24 has taken...

Buckle rash...

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b269/Cheebatone/CU22dinks003.jpg?t=1241518963

Forearm rash...

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b269/Cheebatone/CU22dinks002.jpg?t=1241519124

FUBAR rash...

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b269/Cheebatone/CU22dinks004.jpg?t=1241519187

;)

Lucidology
05-05-2009, 05:13 AM
In the studio with one just a couple of months ago... it was a real workhorse indeed

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l12/lucidology/Mysetup2009.jpg

With Kim Stone digging on it:

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l12/lucidology/KimStoneMoi.jpg

yucatown
05-05-2009, 07:54 AM
Funny, mine's exactly the opposite: nothing to look at, but when it sings, it turns heads. (on the right: '89 CE 24). It might not be the sound/feel you're after, but I kinda dislike pretty guitars, anyway. I don't want to raise expectations just by opening the case.:p
http://gallery.photo.net/photo/2778479-md.jpg


Actually, your PRS is a lot to look at. That thing is beautiful.

rburkard
05-05-2009, 08:32 AM
I was so excited once I got my first PRS in early 1986. The feel of the guitar was simply beautiful and the looks so refreshingly cool. Playability was superb too. The sound however never got quite where my strats or Les Pauls were and was a constant hassle for me. No matter what I did with different pickups and EQ settings, this guitar was no sonic match to my strats and Les Pauls. Recording a PRS is a soundengineers nightmare. PRS lost its cool very early on with me because of that. I ended up selling the guitar early 98 since it just was collecting dust.
Rene

AXEL276
05-27-2009, 12:49 PM
Hey all, new member here. I'm an old timer over at HC. My first post here.
I was surfing the net looking for PRS info and found this forum, looks cool here!

I just acquired a beautiful ’03 PRS Custom 22 a couple of days ago. I traded my 2000 Gibson 335 which was collecting dust for the past several years. Funny I read in a previous post about a guy who hates Creed & Nickelback. I have to agree somewhat, where as I don't hate those bands I just associated PRS with that sort of music in general and was never interested in the guitar.

Last week a guy at work offered a trail trade, the PRS for my 335. After 2 days I knew I would never give it back. As far as the cool thing goes. For me I think the Creed/Nickelback guys have moved on to other style guitars. I just don't see as many PRS in photo's, Youtubes, etc., anymore. I for one feel comfortable playing one where as several years ago I would have felt self-conscious about being stereotyped. It’s stupid I know. And it was my loss because these are great playing/sounding guitars.

I have 15 guitars, LP's, (5) strats, Hamer, Parker, etc. and I am seriously loving this Custom 22
If they are “uncool” , good. I prefer it that way.

Knuckles
05-27-2009, 12:56 PM
In the studio with one just a couple of months ago... it was a real workhorse indeed

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l12/lucidology/Mysetup2009.jpg

With Kim Stone digging on it:

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l12/lucidology/KimStoneMoi.jpg

Hey Joseph, how do you approach the sound/playability in contrast to your Tele/EMG guitars? Major tonal difference make you play differently?

Atmospheric
05-27-2009, 01:03 PM
I didn't buy my McCarty Braz because I thought it was cool, I bought it becuase I like McCartys and wanted a Braz fingerboard. I would have preferred a gold top, but I had to take the 10 (lawyer) top. Oh well.

I'd love for them to be thought of as uncool. That way guys who still play them do so for the right reasons (they dig them).

amc
05-27-2009, 01:09 PM
to the op

what is cool?

Flat6
05-27-2009, 09:19 PM
les pauls ha ha

Jiffy_Jeff
05-31-2009, 02:54 PM
to the op

what is cool?

Whatever stimulates your mind brother!


I think all my gear is cool~ It stimulates my mind!:D

slopeshoulder
05-31-2009, 03:05 PM
prs never had cool.
neither has dentistry, accounting, tax law, tractor mowers, falsies, or carnival cruises.

telecopter
06-01-2009, 06:42 AM
I love 'em. Period.

02Singlecut
06-01-2009, 06:48 AM
Not Cool at all !!!!

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r312/Teasme4764/IMG_0588.jpg

Maess
06-01-2009, 07:22 AM
Some of you guy crack me up.

I don't play my PRS's because they are 'cool' I play them because they play and sound great and have the features I am looking for. I can honestly say I have never bought a guitar because I thought it would make me look cool.

franksguitar
06-01-2009, 07:30 AM
The CE series vs. Ibanez, perhaps. But the USA PRS stuff? Let's see a JEM going against any of that!

Note CE's certainly are American made bolt ons in Stevensville, MD in the 2K range and were the first bolt-on model PRS has had for many years. I have one and the SE's are just cheaper Korean imports under $600.

TNJ
06-01-2009, 07:41 AM
Man...
I have a Custom 22 that I prefer to just about any guitar I've played.
I have others (Gibson/Suhr/Gretsch/Fender), but that Cherry Sunburst beauty will always have a major place in my heart!

S.
j

Phil M
06-01-2009, 07:43 AM
Very cool guitar! The only thing not cool in this picture is the ugly lady in the front row flashing the guitarist.

Not Cool at all !!!!

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r312/Teasme4764/IMG_0588.jpg

TNJ
06-01-2009, 07:45 AM
Very cool guitar! The only thing not cool in this picture is the ugly lady in the front row flashing the guitarist.

No man...that's Robt Plant!

:D

S.
.j

bearbike137
06-01-2009, 10:56 AM
Man, I hate these type of threads. A guitar is a guitar is a guitar. Find one that sounds and plays great in your hands. Find one that means something to you. Oh, hey -- it has a name on the headstock? Never noticed that...

As far as I am concerned, as long as it is played, every guitar is cool. Period.

Cheebatone
06-02-2009, 03:14 AM
I can honestly say I have never bought a guitar because I thought it would make me look cool.

That's an easy position to take because all guitars make a person look cool by default. Come back with that argument after you've learnt to play a fluglehorn.

CharAznable
06-02-2009, 06:15 AM
prs never had cool.
neither has dentistry, accounting, tax law, tractor mowers, falsies, or carnival cruises.

You just insulted 75% of TGP

Big_Daddy
06-02-2009, 07:00 AM
Maybe I'm not cool but I've been lusting after a PRS guitar for a while now and when this used SE Soapbar II came up for sale on TGP for US$350, I just couldn't resist. So, I broke my rule about never buying a guitar without first playing it and Paypal'd the cash last Friday. It arrived in pristine condition on Monday morning. After playing it all last night until I couldn't play any more, here are my first impressions. Keep in mind, I have played almost nothing but a '64 Strat and '74 Tele Deluxe for the last 30 years.

The PRS Soapbar is a Korean-made, no frills, all-mahogany, set-neck with 2 P90 soapbar pickups, a PRS stop tailpiece and wide fat neck. I'm not a real fan of fancy, flame-top finishes so the plain cherry-red finish on this guitar is right up my alley. As soon as I started to play this baby, I liked the feel of the neck and fretboard, though it is thicker than my Strat's. The action is a bit higher as well and it has heavier gauge strings than the .009s I am used to. Despite these differences, I couldn't put it down. I play through a Crate PowerBlock 150 into 2 custom-made cabs with 12" Eminence Legends and Piezo bullets and the Soapie sounds great with this rig.

I immediately fell in love with the quality of the volume and tone pots in the PRS. Using a favourite overdrive artist pre-set called Randy (for Randy Bachman), I found that just rolling off the volume a bit really cleaned up the sound, perfect for dropping into rhythm mode after a screaming solo. This was the case with every preset I tried and I love it. (BTW, my Strat can't do this.) The other great feature of these p90s is the way the tone changes from clean and warm to a biting, raunchy tone just by changing your level of attack.

The original owner warned me that the PRS tuners on this guitar were very touchy and they are, but no more so than my Strat's. Apparently Grover makes a set of locking tuners that just drop in with no modification and I may spring for these.

The only negative I can find with this guitar is that it has no trem bar, which I found myself repeatedly reaching for. Maybe that's a habit I need to break anyway. http://www.guitarscanada.com/Board/images/smilies/smile.gif

In conclusion, this is a very well-made, well-setup guitar and by far the best $350 I have ever spent on an instrument. Give one a try.

Here are some pics...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2444/3589039002_4e8d114233.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2443/3588231799_1defc17f0d.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2447/3589038924_ab30c480a5.jpg

Thanks to Jagman327 for a great sale.

bd

amc
06-02-2009, 12:17 PM
no, for me, prs has not lost it's cool......

i own many fine guitars from some of the best luthiers in the world and my prs' are on par with the best of them.

far too many people slam prs because of the pickups while the same people routinely change out the pickups in their historic lp's and masterbuilt strats.

btw: i have a couple of early '86 prs customs and newer prs ie: modern eagle, sas,
mccartys and they are all exceptional instruments. if you don't like the sound , change out the pickups.............

Jiffy_Jeff
06-02-2009, 12:55 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2444/3589039002_4e8d114233.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2443/3588231799_1defc17f0d.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2447/3589038924_ab30c480a5.jpg

Thanks to Jagman327 for a great sale.

bd

Nice Looking Guitar!

thorpy6
07-08-2009, 05:13 PM
I've just had the opportunity to get two PRS guitars at amazing prices, a 513 and a custom 24. Having looked at PRS's before i have been amazed by the build quality, playability, and looks. Now i own them i think i have become a brand convert, cool or not these guitars suit me down to the ground. Perfect in everyway.

Polynitro
07-08-2009, 05:32 PM
Hipsters can't afford them so they will never be cool.

TCauble
07-08-2009, 06:06 PM
PRS's were cool?

kiiiiddddinng


but seriously.

radiohead
07-08-2009, 07:00 PM
I can understand the bias towards PRS.. I used to say the same things that everyone here has already stated or joked about. But when I was making those comments at the time.. I hadn't really gave their guitars a chance.. I was strictly a Gibson Les Paul player.. until the Korina McCarty showed up...

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z244/ledzep14/IMGP2995-1.jpg

This, in all honesty, is one of the most addicting guitars I've played. It's warm, fat, punchy in the mids, tight on the lows, and the highs are smooth. I'm not a fan of fancy tops, so the retro look of the all korina body was the initial attraction for me and was what made me try it at the store. At that time, I was also looking for another Les Paul, as I was not bonding with the one I had at the time.. main reason being that the quality of the fret job was pretty poor (sharp fret ends), and the finish had some slight flaws. The first thing I noticed when I picked up the PRS was how good the quality is. I didn't see a single file mark on the edges of the neck. The frets were dressed perfectly, the action was already set low, intonation was spot on, eventhough it has the non-adjustable stoptail, and the neck was easier to play (slimmer) than the 59 profile my Les Paul had. I was actually surprised the PRS neck was called "wide-fat", as it was neither of those. Anyway, this Korina McCarty changed my whole perception of PRS, and I'm now a convert. I think PRS makes real playable quality guitars. They get a bad rep, because of some of the artists that endorses them.. I must admit also that I used to judge the company partly due to this same reason as well. But think about it.. every guitar company has their share of lame artists that endorses their products. You gotta look past that and just play the guitar if it feels right in your hands, and the sound is something you dig. Don't get sucked into the hype that this or that doesn't have mojo.
Create your own mojo once you bond with your guitar. :beer

jetydosa
07-09-2009, 06:32 AM
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z244/ledzep14/IMGP2995-1.jpg

This, in all honesty, is one of the most addicting guitars I've played. It's warm, fat, punchy in the mids, tight on the lows, and the highs are smooth. I'm not a fan of fancy tops, so the retro look of the all korina body was the initial attraction for me and was what made me try it at the store. At that time, I was also looking for another Les Paul, as I was not bonding with the one I had at the time.. main reason being that the quality of the fret job was pretty poor (sharp fret ends), and the finish had some slight flaws. The first thing I noticed when I picked up the PRS was how good the quality is. I didn't see a single file mark on the edges of the neck. The frets were dressed perfectly, the action was already set low, intonation was spot on, eventhough it has the non-adjustable stoptail, and the neck was easier to play (slimmer) than the 59 profile my Les Paul had. I was actually surprised the PRS neck was called "wide-fat", as it was neither of those. Anyway, this Korina McCarty changed my whole perception of PRS, and I'm now a convert. I think PRS makes real playable quality guitars. They get a bad rep, because of some of the artists that endorses them.. I must admit also that I used to judge the company partly due to this same reason as well. But think about it.. every guitar company has their share of lame artists that endorses their products. You gotta look past that and just play the guitar if it feels right in your hands, and the sound is something you dig. Don't get sucked into the hype that this or that doesn't have mojo.
Create your own mojo once you bond with your guitar. :beer

Nice guitar! There was one exactly like that at the GC in Atl I played awhile back and I really dug it. :thumbsup:

dman11
07-09-2009, 07:14 AM
Just to clarify... PRS CE's are American made. They just have a bolt in neck.
Jade
I love my CE24 just like Alex Lifeson used on tour! Mine sounds great to me stock. It's a pre-factory'93 Alder/flame maple top model. absolutely love it bone stock. best lead tone I ever got- original HFS anf VB bridge and neck pups.
Scarlet burst:
http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/40/l_5e20e7454b2344f8aafbba2642fec15d.jpg

Griz
07-09-2009, 07:33 AM
Don't know, don't care. My DGT is one hella bad ass work of art great playing excellent tone producing guitar. What others think of it doesn't matter to me.

Now that is a cool PRS guitar. The difference with that one is in how it sounds. There's some real personality in there.

Otherwise, as others have said, I've never been able to get excited about how PRS's sound.

GreenKnight18
07-09-2009, 09:23 AM
Hipsters can't afford them so they will never be cool.

I'm sure some people would put me in the hipster douchebag category. I can afford one-- but I am firmly in the "they aren't cool" camp. I don't think I've ever seen any of the many hipster douchebag, and non-douche bands that I enjoy playing PRS guitars.

With that said, I'm glad people play and love PRS guitars. Vive Le Difference!

(see how speaking French makes me a lame hipster?)

se7en
07-09-2009, 10:34 AM
Part of what I think people don't like about PRS is how it's designed to intonate well across the neck...this reduces some of the harmonic overtones you'd get out of a Gibson or Fender. I own an SE Singelcut - it's nice for the money...I think I'm more of a Gibson guy though.

presence
07-09-2009, 10:50 AM
I was talking with a friend of mine that is on tour with a christian group and we were talking about Paul Reed Smith Guitars..

But he told me that the general consesus is that PRS has lost its cool

Ok, whatevs...

khromo231
07-09-2009, 11:09 AM
To my lights, being "cool" is intimately tied in with popular taste.

In my opinion, there are not many things more unreliable, more automatically suspect, than popular taste.

If you care very much about the opinions of others, you have problems you don't even know about yet. Not judging, just making an observation.

12guitdown
07-09-2009, 05:49 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2443/3588231799_1defc17f0d.jpg


Thanks to Jagman327 for a great sale.

bd
It even has moons! Sweet score there.

Jiffy_Jeff
07-23-2009, 12:47 AM
Just pulled out the PRS last night for a jam in my house......

I haven't been playing due to my knee surgery..


Still Cool! Feels great. Sounds Great!!

burner
07-23-2009, 01:23 AM
I was talking with a friend of mine that is on tour with a christian group and we were talking about Paul Reed Smith Guitars..

I was telling him that I am looking at trading one of my guitars for a PRS and asking him about his..

He said he got rid of his, cause he got tired of looking at it... Thats just Scotty.

But he told me that the general consesus is that PRS has lost its cool, and are now thought of as an equal to.......like an normal run of the mill Ibanez guitar.

I don't feel they have lost their cool.. Its all a matter of opinion.. Maybe the people that think this are snobs.... And only want a Boutique hard to get guitar..

The general consesus does not affect my search for a PRS..


So whats the deal? Is his comment just BS?

Well of course his comment is "BS", I mean what do you expect when most people are full of BS?

However, I've never really considered the PRS to be "cool" in the first place...
They've just never appealed to me in any regard and look like some kind of funny shaped Jazz show pieces rather than rock machines.
But that's just my opinion....

oscar100
07-23-2009, 01:29 AM
put a prs next to a thorn - thorn wins hands down:bumpbump

sidekick
07-23-2009, 04:38 AM
I got into PRS guitars in the early '90... Had a nice '89 Vintage Yellow Custom when Paul Reed was still using BR on them. Decided in late '92 to get an Artist 1 model as that was the only one with the 'wide-fat' neck available at the time, (I believe). Couldn't get one as they were scarce in the UK so I ordered one through Chandler guitars, (who were the only UK PRS importer at the time). By then, the model had 'evolved' into a 22 fret Artist 2, so I went for that. When it arrived, I had a slight query on the finish... Wrote to PRS and to my surprise, Paul Reed Smith in person phoned me up to have a chat! I was really impressed... ☺

2 weeks later, a secondhand Artist 1 became available and I sold the Artist 2, (not so aesthetically pleasing to me) for that and then had several different PRS models until 2001 when I moved to Les Pauls.

Did they lose their cool for me? Not really, but I do believe they are considered too 'pretty' by some and if you play out with a 'minty' one, there is always something in the back of your mind that a ding on that top is going to cost you dear when you sell... I know we shouldn't think that way, but if you are dealing with a high-end PRS, chances are, that the next owner is going to be quite picky... At least that is my experience.

Every new PRS I owned, played great straight out of the case. In the end though, I thought they didn't 'age' as nicely as some Gibsons and Fenders and the PRS 'dipped in glass' finish lost it's appeal... In fact, I did read that Paul Reed Smith actually prefers the 'old style' finish from his early days, when the business was a much smaller operation... I see some models now use nitro cellulose, but they are not for me now as my tastes have changed.

I believe Paul Reed Smith does deserve credit. Especially because the PRS quality control perhaps gave Gibson and Fender a much needed 'kick up the pants' in the early 90's and where, (IMO) the 'big boys' were resting too much on their laurels. In fact, when I first saw a PRS Custom in '89 it was the first 'new' model guitar back then that really did stand out from the crowd.

OldSchool
07-23-2009, 09:04 AM
I was talking with a friend of mine that is on tour with a christian group and we were talking about Paul Reed Smith Guitars..

I was telling him that I am looking at trading one of my guitars for a PRS and asking him about his..

He said he got rid of his, cause he got tired of looking at it... Thats just Scotty.

But he told me that the general consesus is that PRS has lost its cool, and are now thought of as an equal to.......like an normal run of the mill Ibanez guitar.

I don't feel they have lost their cool.. Its all a matter of opinion.. Maybe the people that think this are snobs.... And only want a Boutique hard to get guitar..

The general consesus does not affect my search for a PRS..


So whats the deal? Is his comment just BS?

That's a mouthfull right there. I'll leave it at that since I just got back from a bit of a vacation here for expressing my opinioin on that very subject. Seems as what you stated is exactly what this forum is built upon. So some people get very pissed when you call them on it. I think PRS has done what the other 2 big companies couldn't do. As PRS has grown they Never sacraficed Quality and Control. Ever hear of a factory 2nd PRS? There are Tons of Gibson ones.........and many that are not stamped 2 but should be. Even the affordable SE line makes pretty incredible guitars for the money.

big mike
07-23-2009, 09:33 AM
That's a mouthfull right there. I'll leave it at that since I just got back from a bit of a vacation here for expressing my opinioin on that very subject.

That is incorrect.

I'll leave it at that.

I agree with the rest of your sentiments regarding PRS.

Deacon
07-23-2009, 09:43 AM
Over the years I've owned the following PRS guitars:

Swamp Ash Special
McCarty (3 different regular maple cap ones)
McCarty IRW
Hollowbody II w piezo
Hollowbody I w piezo
They all looked really good and did nothing for me musically.

So I gave up trying them.

grapeshot
07-23-2009, 11:04 AM
PRS are the best production guitars for me. I have tried just about everything out there and have owned a lot of guitars. I have a couple of Strats I like, but I play my PRS most of the time. I am not saying that PRS is better than everything else, they just fit me best for what I do.

OldSchool
07-23-2009, 11:59 AM
That is incorrect.

I'll leave it at that.

I agree with the rest of your sentiments regarding PRS.

Lets just say.......They finally got Al Capone for Income Tax invasion. ;)

big mike
07-23-2009, 11:59 AM
Pretty much...

burner
07-23-2009, 01:11 PM
You just insulted 75% of TGP
LOL!

Hipsters can't afford them so they will never be cool.

Double LOL!

guitarnate2000
07-23-2009, 02:32 PM
I have a 1991 CU24 that is my GOTO guitar.... i love it.. it will never loose it's cool to me.

Jiffy_Jeff
07-23-2009, 03:32 PM
That's a mouthfull right there. I'll leave it at that ..............

Your right OldSchool! That is a mouthful. I guess I did not proof read it that day.

Sounds like I was talking with my mouthful of food.



HEY MIKE---What happened to the Raiders Avatar? Did you finally become a Charger Fan?

big mike
07-23-2009, 03:35 PM
HEY MIKE---What happened to the Raiders Avatar? Did you finally become a Charger Fan?

Cold dead body.

Frankee
07-23-2009, 04:00 PM
Cold dead body.

So you're the new Raiders quarterback.....

big mike
07-23-2009, 04:07 PM
Like anyone could tackle Jamarcus. He looks like he's been snacking on wide receivers.

Besides, he'll just fall down when you give him a scary look.

Frankee
07-23-2009, 04:09 PM
Besides, he'll just fall down when you give him a scary look.


Ah, that's where you get it from! :p

markie
07-23-2009, 05:44 PM
I have sold off most of my Strats & Les pauls. I play PRS almost exclusively. I still play an LP once in a great while. Have not played any of my Strats in nearly 2 years.

Oh yeah..........PRS is still cool (IMHO)

Jiffy_Jeff
07-23-2009, 07:49 PM
Like anyone could tackle Jamarcus. He looks like he's been snacking on wide receivers.

Besides, he'll just fall down when you give him a scary look.

If your coming down to San Diego for the game, when it gets here, let me know, I'll have you over for our huge tailgate party.
Its all good stuff.
We usually start off with fresh made donuts(right there in front of you) for breakfast, some tacos, and fried burritos for snacks, and the main course is usually ribs, or Tri-tip.


And no, we won't poison you.....:rolleyes:

big mike
07-23-2009, 07:52 PM
LOL

Thanks for the offer. One of these days I'll do that.
Hard to get single game tix down there....especially for Raider week. LOL

radiohead
07-31-2009, 10:39 AM
this kid sure doesn't look like a doctor or a lawyer... maybe a hipster? ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnUaxtTbcX8

monk
08-01-2009, 07:10 AM
My PRS is not the coolest of my guitars but itīs my main live guitar. It stays in tune and sounds great. I donīt care if itīs hip or not.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a72/mans73/kungsh090725_075_640.jpg

2HBStrat
08-01-2009, 08:12 AM
My PRS is not the coolest of my guitars but itīs my main live guitar. It stays in tune and sounds great. I donīt care if itīs hip or not.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a72/mans73/kungsh090725_075_640.jpg

I don't know what other guitars you have that are cooler, but that PRS looks pretty dang cool to me. I like it!

aroman
08-01-2009, 10:00 AM
They might be Uncool. I never GAS for a PRS. I always GAS for Gibsons.
2000 went to buy a Les Paul...came Home with a Mccarty.
2008 went to buy an SG... came Home with a SC245 !!!.
IMO Gibsons look cooler and have a more distinctive sound.
PRS play better.

duaneallen
08-01-2009, 11:06 AM
I feel sorry for anyone that buys guitars because they are cool. I recently got my first PRS and can't believe what I have been missing! I had an R8 and traded it for a PRS DGT and like it MUCH better! The sound is less muddy, more articulate, very toneful, the pickups nail the PAF sound, it plays much better, and intonation throughout is much better. I'm not bashing Gibson either, it was a great R8. I also own a Gibson 339 that I love. I just think that anyone who hates PRS is really missing out. Especially on the DGTs and the new Sunburst series with the nitro finish and the PAF style pickups. I've always felt that PRSi play better than most guitars, now that they offer great pickups, its hard to beat them.

Jiffy_Jeff
08-01-2009, 10:44 PM
this kid sure doesn't look like a doctor or a lawyer... maybe a hipster? ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnUaxtTbcX8

He's the Doc of that guitar right there! Looks like he's having a great time too. Aint that whats most important....:hiP

Nice clip! Thanks for sharing that one.

AudionAnalog
08-01-2009, 11:45 PM
Went to steve's music in Montreal today to try a Rickenbacker

Ended up playing a 58 Plain top Les Paul Reissue, a 360 Rickenbacker and a '61 SG

Then I was offered a PRS SC 245

WOW

Anyone who says PRS has lost it ...

Quality, tone, feel

Amazing axe

Frankee
08-01-2009, 11:56 PM
I've been chumming the waters of the Emporium for a PRS. The most 10-toppiest, most furniture-looking museum piece out there. Someone's dream guitar, someone's labor of love.

Then I'm gonna take that prom-queen and turn it into a streetwalker.


Caveat Vendor.

se7en
08-01-2009, 11:58 PM
The thing that bothers me about PRS is the way they are setup to intonate better across neck, yet at the sacrifice of harmonic overtones. I think I'm more of a Gibson guy for this reason. They don't seem to have a distinct personality either. I own a PRS, but I'll probably sell it to a friend of mine...

metheniac
08-02-2009, 12:09 AM
I sincerely wish PRS would bind the neck on some of their higher end models and I would be all over them. That is my only issue with their guitars, a bound neck just feels better to me.

bobbypols
08-02-2009, 12:17 AM
Yes. Never liked them anyways, they sound too fat and synthetic, not hungry like a strat or growl like a les paul. But thats my own opinion, sure they have some good qualities.

Im sure the decline of nu metal or the fact that santana hasnt popped out a album latley hasnt helped.

Personally, I think they all feel great, but once artist change to using them they just dont sound the same or good for that matter (alex lifeson, hiland, etc).

radiohead
08-02-2009, 03:44 AM
I sincerely wish PRS would bind the neck on some of their higher end models and I would be all over them. That is my only issue with their guitars, a bound neck just feels better to me.

Get your wallet ready.. Check this out

http://forums.birdsandmoons.com/forum/showthread.php?t=60572

http://www.makenmusic.com/productImg/PaulReedSmith_TedMcCarty_DC245_NeckTeaser.jpghttp://www.makenmusic.com/productImg/PaulReedSmith_TedMcCarty_SC245_FinishRack2_Teaser. jpg

-images from Make'n Music

Yes. Never liked them anyways, they sound too fat and synthetic, not hungry like a strat or growl like a les paul. But thats my own opinion, sure they have some good qualities.

Im sure the decline of nu metal or the fact that santana hasnt popped out a album latley hasnt helped.

Fat and synthetic... you could've played around with the pickup height or even tried different ones? This McCarty sure does sound "hungry" to me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stOfB1eJjTo

and IMO.. the decline of nu-metal has helped them

He's the Doc of that guitar right there! Looks like he's having a great time too. Aint that whats most important....:hiP

Nice clip! Thanks for sharing that one.

you're welcome :beer

here's another great song from Davey Knowles.. only 21, but already has amazing potential:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOhLwuee6no

andy888
08-02-2009, 05:30 AM
I've always loved PRS. I Own a 03' custom 24 10 top, and a recent McCarty with trem. They are both amazing guitars, and have their own sound. They both feel, sound, and look amazing. But my next guitar is a strat.......

jdogjent
08-02-2009, 10:45 PM
I have been a strat/tele guy for the longest time. I have played tons of guitars. (working in a large used music store for 3 years now) I have played vintage LP's, SG's, all sorts of imports, more strats and tele's than you can imagine. I very rarely enjoy the sound of any guitar with humbuckers. (A couple vintage SG's being the exceptions)

I own a G&L ASAT Tele which is my personal holy grail. I had pretty much sworn that NOTHING could touch a good sounding telecaster (especially mine).....until I played a 2000 PRS CE22 that came into my store.

Granted, I still love strats and tele's, but my PRS almost sounds "hi fi" in comparison to the rest of my guitars. I can get the out of phase fender quack tone and the bridge pick-up kills any Gibson guitar I have ever played.

So I personally love my PRS (admittedly I only use the out of phase and bridge position) and find it extremely useful.

Guitar James
08-03-2009, 11:25 AM
PRS are very cool. But like anything cool a lot of uncool people use/ have them.

Jiffy_Jeff
11-08-2009, 04:42 PM
I have a G&L ASAT. It gets played alot, although I wouldn't call it my holy grail......

flummox
11-08-2009, 08:20 PM
I may have no business in this thread, because at my age nothing I do or play will ever be cool. That's fine.

I have a McCarty Soapbar and a Standard 22. The Soapy is incredibly resonant and woody and has a totally unique voice. The '22 is a lot more "generic" sounding, but it's quiet, versatile and useful, and has the best neck of any guitar I've ever owned. I have other guitars that I like and play just as much. But the PRSs are both beautiful, intonate extremely well and are a pleasure to play.

And since they're so uncool, I picked 'em up cheap. 70s Telecaster Customs and Deluxes were uncool ten years ago, too. Made a nice chunk of money off the last one I sold.

AudionAnalog
11-08-2009, 08:25 PM
PRS with binding ?

CHARGE PLEASE !!!