Ian Moore.....Why...

[R.Kirkland]

Can someone help me understand this, Please. I have been extremely patient about Ian and his direction of music but I am feeling now that he has totally spaced out.

Really listen to these

Then (no video just live music)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmjGU0xFwBQ&feature=related

Recent
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uktzZnlrEPM&feature=related

Okay I am not saying that He Sucks or HAS to do the same thing for the rest of his career. But Come on man he FLANKED left pretty hard. and i am just not digging it . FOR ME his first 2 albums really filled a void in soulful music at the time ,and kicked serious A$$ cover to cover. I am very grateful for the stuff he did put out early on.

opinions?????

[John Hurtt]

Can someone help me understand this, Please. I have been extremely patient about Ian and his direction of music but I am feeling now that he has totally spaced out.

Really listen to these

Then (no video just live music)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmjGU0xFwBQ&feature=related

Recent
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uktzZnlrEPM&feature=related

Okay I am not saying that He Sucks or HAS to do the same thing for the rest of his career. But Come on man he FLANKED left pretty hard. and i am just not digging it . FOR ME his first 2 albums really filled a void in soulful music at the time ,and kicked serious A$$ cover to cover. I am very grateful for the stuff he did put out early on.

opinions?????


I love Ian Moore's stuff. I too wish he stayed more in his earlier direction, but IMO this is a poor example of something not to like. This is a fantatic song. I will say he strays quite a bit from his recorded version.

[realityczech]

opinions?????

Perhaps that's the direction he wants to go these days.
Go to one of his shows and tell him what you think.

[R.Kirkland]

Yes it is a great song......If someone else was performing it...:dunno Just not Ian to me...

[John Hurtt]

Yes it is a great song......If someone else was performing it...:dunno Just not Ian to me...


:rotflmao I hear ya, but I dig that part of Moore's stuff as well.

[R.Kirkland]

Perhaps that's the direction he wants to go these days.
Go to one of his shows and tell him what you think.

Have no desire to go to one now really. he doesn't have to change back for me, and can absolutey go any direction he wants . but look at his crowds these days compared to back then .. it's not just me .. I was just stirrin up some coversation...

[realityczech]

Have no desire to go to one now really. he doesn't have to change back for me, and can absolutey go any direction he wants . but look at his crowds these days compared to back then .. it's not just me .. I was just stirrin up some coversation...

Then why bring it up?
I'm amazed... everyday

[John Hurtt]

Then why bring it up?
I'm amazed... everyday


This is a discussion board, the guy can talk about the direction someone he liked went with his music. I'm not sure why that's so amazing? :huh

[realityczech]

This is a discussion board, the guy can talk about the direction someone he liked went with his music. I'm not sure why that's so amazing? :huh

And so can I- discuss.
After all isnt that is(what) I am doing?

[R.Kirkland]

Dang , Instead of sitting and just "Staring" at TGP, thought I would post about something I was wanting to BS about, after listening to Ian's latest Album.

Sorry

is it My Tattoos?

[John Hurtt]

And so can I- discuss.
After all isnt that is(what) I am doing?


Yeah, but you're "discussion" was "why discuss'? :rotflmao

[realityczech]

Yeah, but you're "discussion" was "why discuss'? :rotflmao

When in doubt evoke the emoticons.

Anyways I'm sure Ian Moore is happy that we have digressed from his artistic choices...

[John Hurtt]

When in doubt evoke the emoticons.

Anyways I'm sure Ian Moore is happy that we have digressed from his artistic choices...


I doubt Moore really cares if someone he doesn't know likes or doesn't like what he's doing right now. The interviews I've read/heard have him pretty much happy with the direction he's taken his music.

What doubt were you thinking there was? I was laughing at the irony of your post.

[tonedaddy]

What doubt were you thinking there was? I was laughing at the irony of your post.

I have a theory:
When someone doesn't see the flaw in their argument, they're unlikely to see that you're making fun of it, either.
;)


I don't get Ian's journey, either.
I was a huge fan early, even stayed with him when he took the big detour.
I've struggled to connect with him over the last few years.

That doesn't say anything about his music, but all about my connection to it.
Maybe I'll reconnect someday.
I hope so, I think he's very talented.

[John Hurtt]

I have a theory:

When someone doesn't see the flaw in their argument, they're unlikely to see that you're making fun of it, either.
;)


You might be on to something, there. :BEER

[realityczech]

I doubt Moore really cares if someone he doesn't know likes or doesn't like what he's doing right now. The interviews I've read/heard have him pretty much happy with the direction he's taken his music.

What doubt were you thinking there was? I was laughing at the irony of your post.

Post those interviews and make my point.

[John Hurtt]

Post those interviews and make my point.


Do your own legwork, it's late and I'm tired.

[realityczech]

Sleet Themes.

[Eskimo_Joe]

I agree that his latest stuff is basically terrible. It's music, it's creative, but nothing anywhere nearly as enjoyable as his earlier stuff. That said, Angelyne is a great song and is from the late 90's / early 2000's.

[R.Kirkland]

I wasn't aware of when it was recorded . I just remembered about his SXSW performance and that was the first that came up. I also was not trying to display a horrible performance or anything. just direction change. I actually Love the Song Angelyne. It would have been cool to hear Johnny Cash or Julio Iglesias perform it, or what about Aaron neville??. I have no intentions in tarnishing Ian Moore's reputation as an artist. For me His first 2 albums left me wanting more Moore. and was thrown off starting at green grass and went down from there..

I love john mayer too but this one is a bit off tilt .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOPxNn-DR8g

Speaking of ...how long have people been at each others throats about which Van Halen is better..... Roth or Hagar . Roth or Hagar. Roth or Hagar ??:rotflmao

[gillibi]

IMO Ian peaked out at All the Colors album and has just lost that "something" he used to have. Now he is all about running his acoustic through distortion pedals, it just sounds awful!

[LPMojoGL]

Hey there. This is my first post. I've searched through TPG pages for quite a while to find info about gear. Decided to sign up today to reply to this post.

Skinpimp, living in Wylie (grapevine, myself), you missed an awesome show last night. Ian was in top form. This concert was every bit as good as when he was touring for And All The Colors. He played several new songs that will be on the upcoming cd. He is getting back to some of his rocking ways! I was disappointed in To Be Loved and somewhat disappointed in Luminara. And All The Colors, imo, was his best, and it looks like he's getting back to that. Last night was a dynamic roller coaster ride of soft passages and rocking climaxes, full of great guitar licks and Ian's wonderful voice. Sure, he's not the blues man from the 90's, and I for one am thankful. The psychedelic/pop/blues/rock with soul thing he has going now is unique, and puts him at the top of my list as one of the best songwriters around. Wish you could've been there last night. You might have had a change of heart.

Bobby

Edited for this: Roth. :)

[shredtrash]

I don't know. I've struggled to connect with him beyond his first couple of albums. Sometimes I try to listen to some of the others to see if there's something I'm missing but I haven't found it yet. I think he's happy with his direction though so good for him.

[lcjc800]

He's not your marionette.
Anyone can do as they please without consulting with, or seeking approval from an unknown.:munch

[HHB]

he's trying to make his own statement IMO. the early stuff was awesome but it was also firmly in a catagory ( one I enjoy myself ) and that can be a dual edged sword, I give him huge props for following his art, not easy when you have a fan base that you know your leaving, for the record I dig the old stuff more LOL

[daddyo]

I liked both the clips, Skinpimp, but I would rather listen to his later stuff. The high octane blues rock has been grating on my nerves lately.

[R.Kirkland]

He's not your marionette.
Anyone can do as they please without consulting with, or seeking approval from an unknown.:munch

Is this statement trying to jolt a defensive response out of me , simply to provoke an argument?

I really haven't thought about Ian Moore or his new direction of music till last night while browsing Itunes. I searched for his stuff and came across only his new style of music, the older stuff is no longer available . So I listened to some of his newer ,again, and was just wanting to converse about it. I too am not asking for repeats of the tried and true texas blues rock stuff, just didn't connect with the way he went..

I am also a huge Arc Angels fan and they had ONE album(that I am aware of). However they didn't leave you wanting. Doyle went in a slightly different direction away from the Rock edge but there is NO DOUBT that it is in Fact Doyle and everything he represents. Thus not leaving a hole in something you enjoy. as for Charlie Sexton he did his thing, Diverted a bit but still covered the Ground. And then for Double Trouble and Storyville sounds NOTHING like Stevies Music yet retains the soulful sound I really enjoy..

FOR ME..... I hold (early) Ian Moore in the same category of, music that moves me, as Robben Ford may do for alot of folks , and Ian's Change FOR ME was as Drastic of a change, as if Robben Ford were to become the new Guitarist for Billy Ray Cyrus...:barf

But i guess that would be cool too because after all, he isn't our mationette.
so why discuss it right ?


That Being said I am now very intrigued to see Ian Perform... Who knows maybe his artsy Jim Morrison lost in the dessert search for meaning actually Turned over yet a new rock.

And if you consider my age and the time period Ian's music Came out you might appreciate my view on it. I would be glad to dive into the pool of Ryan and tell the story if you'd like ...If not thats Cool too...

[Neill]

i'm not a fan of either but the second sounds better to me. not a fan of most newer 'riff rock'.

[lcjc800]

That's my opinion.
You may pontificate on the subject as long as you want, but you asked for opinions. That's in your first post.
The fact remains that few performers with something to say and real talent keep on a strait and narrow path.
The way that you've chosen to question his choices in a negative fashion, He was better then because I liked that, is your's.
He doesn't require our approval, is mine. He's making more at it than most of us here combined.
Discussing it won't matter if you're not willing to let someone else have their view, That's clear from your initial post.

[R.Kirkland]

That's my opinion.
You may pontificate on the subject as long as you want, but you asked for opinions. That's in your first post.
The fact remains that few performers with something to say and real talent keep on a strait and narrow path.
The way that you've chosen to question his choices in a negative fashion, He was better then because I liked that, is your's.
He doesn't require our approval, is mine. He's making more at it than most of us here combined.
Discussing it won't matter if you're not willing to let someone else have their view, That's clear from your initial post.

I am willing to let people have an opinion on the subject i asked about, yet you are making an opinion , on how I got my opinion. Not his style of music Direction. you said nothing about wheter or not you liked or disliked his direction. And that is what I was wanting to discuss. Not whether he was my marionette or not.. ..... Ridiculous. Well Nevermind , not this important. Later guys.

[Wagster]

Perhaps that's the direction he wants to go these days.
Go to one of his shows and tell him what you think.Wow :rolleyes:

[plagtr2]

I really like the first couple of albums & was lucky enough to see the band live quite a few times during that periord. Those shows were very good--I wish I had some video or audio from then. I too have "tried out" the more recent material & cannot bond with it. Good for him for doing what he wants, but I really miss the stuf he did early on. C'mon Ian, rock some Traintracks or Muddy Jesus like ya' did back in the day! :RoCkIn

[pickaguitar]

I really dub the Angelyne song posted! thx

[Spudman]

You guys that don't like him are so concerned with your own self gratification that you are looking past the real beauty of what Ian is doing. Go say 15 "Hail Marys" and 10 "Our Fathers" the go listen to Ian's latest albums. You don't have to like it but you can at least say that he's still making beautiful music. What are you doing?

[Bo Faulkner]

not to hijack,..but can this .. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=iIBo1I5sFsU .. be expected with a tele and a vox ?(and proper fingers of course)

[R.Kirkland]

not to hijack,..but can this .. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=iIBo1I5sFsU .. be expected with a tele and a vox ?(and proper fingers of course)

He is a helluva player cool to see that clip..

as far as the post before . I dont know if it was directed to me or in general. Artist wise I do appreciate his writings and what he has done creatively Hence me saying I dont think he sux nor do I hate it. Just not the same for me. And why does anyone have to be "Doing" anything to establish being able to jive with a certain music. As if we have to be Doing something better (i.e keeping up with the Jones') simply to have proof of taste or opinion..?? hmm I guess it is just too easy to start an internet argument, but to save time "you win".

I appreciate all views of opinion you guys have on Ian's Music then and now.

LpMojoGL I wish I would have known about the show , these days it would have been nice to get out and way from the world for a night. If he does play some of the old stuff I bet now days his shows are in fact Truly Dynamic. Thanks

[GtrWiz]

He's been playing Angelyne live since before his second record, so it's not a new direction at all...

[Wagster]

not to hijack,..but can this .. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=iIBo1I5sFsU .. be expected with a tele and a vox ?(and proper fingers of course)I'm hearing a Fuzz.IMO that's creating the heaviness in the clip.My AC30 loves Fuzzes and can get in the same ballpark as this clip.

[krbentley]

I appreciate what Ian is doing and what he has done. More than that I admire his pursuit of evolution. He is a very musical player and singer/songwriter.

[aaronbarnes]

I miss the old Ian shows too....I respect his choices, but don't like'em.

I do however still dig one of his contemporaries....Hadden Sayers....you guys missing the old Ian will probably dig his stuff, and he has grown without alienating his base.

http://www.haddensayers.net/index.cfm

free downloads too....

[reddgeetarzan]

Some of the newer stuff I saw from that live show at the Bat Bar didn't do "it" for me but it was still quality material. That being said, I respect his abilities and wouldn't hesitate to see him live is he toured around here........he hasn't in quite a while- you're over-due Ian!!!!

[LPMojoGL]

Skinpimp,

It was great, definitely a getaway. He did play Muddy Jesus. He used a Tele and a Vashon (Epipohone Casino looking with p90s) all night, didn't catch the pedalboard, but the amp was Voxy. The tone was awesome. Maybe check him out when he comes back through.

[homerayvaughan]

Liked his first 2 or 3 albums. Newer stuff, not so much. What can ya do?

[skillet]

I too caught the show in Dallas this weekend (FYI, it was the last show for this particular tour; said they're heading into the studio). I've known of Ian for awhile but never really got into his music for some reason, so this was really my first big dose of him.

With that said, I have no idea what in the hell anyone is complaining about; while there were some semi-poppy slower songs, they were well-crafted and entertaining in my opinion and for the most part it was just a night full of damn good rock 'n roll. As pointed out earlier, the newer songs he played were anything but pop music (I can't recall the name of one new song he played, but it rocked hard and had the entire crowd going nuts when he finished), so maybe he's taking a step back and his older fans will be pleased. Either way, I liked it a lot and will be checking out some of his albums.

[Blues Lyne]

I think this would be a better example of his new direction. http://www.ianmoore.com/site/ .

It's not a bad song at all. It has been a big change from Texas blues rock to more British psychedelic rock. I haven't really bonded with his newer stuff, starting with Green Grass. I liked the big blues rock guitar of his early stuff, but what really set it apart was the funky grooves and soulful vocals.

I dug the Angelyne video. Sounded like a Joe Ely influenced performance of the song.

[todd richman]

That clip of Muddy Jesus is such cool Tele into Vox tone.

[Laroosco!]

He's been playing Angelyne live since before his second record, so it's not a new direction at all...


+1

I've got a live show from '96 where he plays Angelyne. Hardly a new song

Those SXSW clips don't sound like Ian. What I mean is that he is either singing off pitch on purpose or he was having trouble with his voice that night.

This is the Ian I am used to hearing http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ATKUQBqTJkc&feature=related

[R.Kirkland]

+1

I've got a live show from '96 where he plays Angelyne. Hardly a new song

Those SXSW clips don't sound like Ian. What I mean is that he is either singing off pitch on purpose or he was having trouble with his voice that night.

This is the Ian I am used to hearing http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ATKUQBqTJkc&feature=related


Now Thats the ticket there man WOW .. His voice is just stunning .. Which live Performance are you speaking of .. is it Video or audio? I really had no Idea Angylene had been performed that long.... I didnt even get introduced to Ian until about 97 .. So I jumped on the Early stuff pretty hard and was just blown away ... Even then was a weired time for music for me.. I was 17 and didnt like standard Radio Music So i was Diggin up older stuff , I didnt have the internet recources to learn of the somewhat underground artists So when I found Music like Ian's , Arc Angels , SRV , even though they may have been around awhile or long gone, I wouldn't stop playin it . Growin up in West TX Cotton land, Finding these albums was not an easy task ..

[todd richman]

Anyone iknow his current gear besides the Tele and previously mentioned Vashon Goldfinch (Epi Casino style). Amps and pedals? I did an earlier thread over in the effects section and there are some pics of his early 90's pedalboard.

[LPMojoGL]

Skillet,

Rocking show, huh! It's cool to see some fellow Texans on the forums, and in the area, too. I grew up in Amarillo, been in DalWorth since 97. My first exposure to Ian was in the early 90s, Harlem, Muddy Jesus, How Does It Feel. I remember when he cut his hair off!
I've seen Ian 3 times, and every time he is playing something different, different guitars, pedals and amp. He always sounds good.

[Laroosco!]

Anyone iknow his current gear besides the Tele and previously mentioned Vashon Goldfinch (Epi Casino style). Amps and pedals? I did an earlier thread over in the effects section and there are some pics of his early 90's pedalboard.

From what I've heard, Ian has been making his own amps and pedals for the last couple of years.

[Laroosco!]

Now Thats the ticket there man WOW .. His voice is just stunning .. Which live Performance are you speaking of .. is it Video or audio? I really had no Idea Angylene had been performed that long.... I didnt even get introduced to Ian until about 97 .. So I jumped on the Early stuff pretty hard and was just blown away ... Even then was a weired time for music for me.. I was 17 and didnt like standard Radio Music So i was Diggin up older stuff , I didnt have the internet recources to learn of the somewhat underground artists So when I found Music like Ian's , Arc Angels , SRV , even though they may have been around awhile or long gone, I wouldn't stop playin it . Growin up in West TX Cotton land, Finding these albums was not an easy task ..

The video I have is called Live in Austin. There was a CD but it is different from the video. Angelyne is on the video. Ian closes the show with a version of No Woman No Cry/Axis Bold as Love.

I don't have MP3's of the old version of Angelyne but I do have the Marley cover and countless hours of old bootlegs. Acoustic versions of old songs, a live full band acoustic show or two, alternate outakes and never released songs. I had a friend a few years ago with the sweet Ian hookup. Send me an email and I'll send you some stuff.

Do you have the live version of Blue Sky/Abraham Martin and John??? Cool shit, killer guitar tones as well.

Now that I think of it I'll shoot you a PM tomorrow if you don't see this post.

[michael.e]

I think this newer stuff is fantastic! Grew past ONLY doing bloozey things. Seems that he has developed a taste and ear for more aural complexity.

This vid posted as the recent stuff has a very "Kill Bill II" feel to it.


I dig it!!

[R.Kirkland]

This vid posted as the recent stuff has a very "Kill Bill II" feel to it.


I dig it!!


That's It!! I was trying to Lump it with Something and couldnt put my finger on it .. But his Hole SXSW performance had that vibe to it .. Very Easily could be in a Q.T Film.. Good Call...

I Only have the live in austin CD , But would love to get a hold of some of the others you talk about :phones. I think either HE, Or the old label put a stop releasing any old material. I used to see his first Album at best buy, but heard that they will no longer be made.. Could just be BS but I wouldnt doubt it either...

[LPMojoGL]

I used to see his first Album at best buy, but heard that they will no longer be made.. Could just be BS but I wouldnt doubt it either...

Funny you say that. Many of his cds and dvds were for sale at the concert, but they didn't have And All the Colors or anything earlier for sale. I asked why and was told that it costs too much to print new cds. That seemed kind of strange to me.

[Laroosco!]

The video I have is called Live in Austin.

Correction. The video is called Bootleg '96.

[duster77]

That's It!! I was trying to Lump it with Something and couldnt put my finger on it .. But his Hole SXSW performance had that vibe to it .. Very Easily could be in a Q.T Film.. Good Call...

I Only have the live in austin CD , But would love to get a hold of some of the others you talk about :phones. I think either HE, Or the old label put a stop releasing any old material. I used to see his first Album at best buy, but heard that they will no longer be made.. Could just be BS but I wouldnt doubt it either...



so after all that bitching about how he moved you with the earlier stuff...All you have is a live ep with 2 cover songs on it.. No 1st album...No modernday folklore...no and all the colors...
lame...
see a new website called EBAY....

[telesquire]

First time I saw Ian he was playing with Joe Ely....tone heaven....black Strat thru two Bassmans! He blew us away that night. Caught him once in the Uk after that and once in Austin.
However as a listener you need to grow with an artist.I'm the same age as Ian...so its been easy to do! My own playing has slowed down a bunch too!

[R.Kirkland]

so after all that bitching about how he moved you with the earlier stuff...All you have is a live ep with 2 cover songs on it.. No 1st album...No modernday folklore...no and all the colors...
lame...
see a new website called EBAY....

Why the hell do you think you need to call Me Lame? Do you get something out of it?. I was stating that the only LIVE performance I had was his CD No DVD's. I have his first , Modern Day, all the Colors , Green Grass , and Hempelation . Amazing that you seem to be so inclined to be so harsh About things. Enjoy yourself..

[WAH-WAH MCFUZZ]

Check out the Live Via Satellite album. Diablito is Muddy Jesus played on a Jerry Jones Baby Sitar.

[duster77]

Why the hell do you think you need to call Me Lame? Do you get something out of it?. I was stating that the only LIVE performance I had was his CD No DVD's. I have his first , Modern Day, all the Colors , Green Grass , and Hempelation . Amazing that you seem to be so inclined to be so harsh About things. Enjoy yourself..

Sorry I misunderstood....
I was calling the lack of albums lame...Not you...
And BTW...not only is Ian a friend of mine.....I happen to completely agree with you...So dont be so quick to get offended by one word that was typed...on a computer...halfway across the country....

Wouldnt you agree that If a person had started this thread about Ian change of direction...and how impassioned they were about earlier Ian...and how dissapointed they are with his current stuff..Only to find out that their only frame if reference was the live ep...That their point of view was be...lame...null and void...uneducated..whatever....
thats all I was implying...
again sorry to offend....
I'll let Ian know that he has lost you as a fan....and get back to you on whether or not he gives a plop...and If he'll change back for ya...
peace

OBAMA 08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
duster

[R.Kirkland]

Sorry I misunderstood....
I was calling the lack of albums lame...Not you...
And BTW...not only is Ian a friend of mine.....I happen to completely agree with you...So dont be so quick to get offended by one word that was typed...on a computer...halfway across the country....

Wouldnt you agree that If a person had started this thread about Ian change of direction...and how impassioned they were about earlier Ian...and how dissapointed they are with his current stuff..Only to find out that their only frame if reference was the live ep...That their point of view was be...lame...null and void...uneducated..whatever....
thats all I was implying...
again sorry to offend....
I'll let Ian know that he has lost you as a fan....and get back to you on whether or not he gives a plop...and If he'll change back for ya...
peace

OBAMA 08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
duster


I dont blame you on what you said giving that you misunderstood. I wouldnt even have posted with that little Background to his Music. True that would hole no Merit..I jumped to the defensive as I thought it was established where he lost me .. But he did Not loose me as a fan . I am still wearing his stuff out. all the way up to Greengrass.. and there are a few on there ( greengrass ) that kick ass as well , but some of them throw me for a loop. Almost like listening to a soundtrack just kinda all over the place. I have been listening to that and all the colors the past few weeks, and there is stuff in there that I forgot about that is just jawdropping .
Supercool you are friends with the guy. I would hope that he does give a plop about loosing any fans though. It's pretty bold to assume that he wouldn't. But I am sure you know more than I do about how he feels on the subject. But do ask him if he will change back for me please , It would make my decade.. I am sure he would be glad to oblige, hell I could even List the songs I want him to do, just so he knows what direction I like...or have him call me and we could work it out. ( just bein a smart ass)

To be honest It is hard to say how I feel about Ians newer stuff.. Musicaly it is still good...But it is weird hearing it come form a voice you are used to ... I dont know maybe that is what he is trying to achieve is to make people second guess what they are listening to. It's not bad , he doesnt suck, I dont hate him , and I am not heartbroken that he chose to do what he wants to do .. it is just hard to swallow some of it.. I agree with Ian on the point of SRV I love what he brought to the table , but get tired of hearing the amount of artists Copping (or trying) that vibe...
"little OT" , Even Joe Bonamassa has stated that every interview he does the first question has something to do with SRV , I could see how that would turn alot of True Badasses Sour. Hell that is Part reason why Bonamassa stopped playin strats (there is another bigger part as well) , and his style of performance went from in your face No hold barred ass kicker to a slightly more refined B.B. King kinda Vibe on a show. No I am not lumpin Him with BB now, just that he took some good notes.. Still Killer though.. More mature I guess you could say .

as far as Ian goes he shoud do what ever the hell he wants to musically. If he didnt he would be stuck with some major label , doin the dog an pony show for whatever sells. But I think , what he had to offer earlier on was very strong to me and I have turned alot of people on to his music. I hope that it continues that way for him for years to come. It is killer for a musician to even make a living, more so being ABLE to be that diverse.

Stay up

[Frankee]

I like it...........