Finally turned on to the Rolling Stones. need help from fans

[re-animator]

I'd say I'm still at the stage where I'm discovering new music all the time.

Just recently I've been really turned on the rolling stones.... all eras but especially the early stuff. So much great guitar playing, drumming, bass, and of course the brilliant vocals and songwriting.


God, i'm such an idiot for dismissing them for so long!! I've always preferred Zep, the who, the yardbirds, hendrix, etc.



Anyway I've been overloading myself with as much Stones music as I can find. I got the Hot Rocks 2-disc set and I am wearing it out!


So much so in fact that I am considering joining a Rolling Stones tribute band as my "money gig," and continuing with my own band on the side (where I sing, play guitar, and keys). A local stones tribute is looking for a Ron Wood, and I'm thinking of auditioning. I'm thinking it won't take up too much of my time since all I have to do is learn the guitar parts (and the Ron Wood mannerisms), which I can practice to their recordings. So it will be a good time, and a good way to get my name out there and earn some side cash. I even have a similar haircut and style of dress (well... a little closer to jeff beck actually :) )


My only problem is that I am a n00b when it comes to the stones and Ron Wood in particular. I love his playing with the Faces, but other than the slide work I don't know what he's playing with the stones. I think I have a hard time discerning where the Keef ends and the Wood begins.


So school me, stones gurus! What parts are Woodie playing on the essential stones tracks?? I assume the cover group will also be playing the older stones hits (sympathy, satisfaction, honky tonk woman, jumpin jack flash, time is on my side, etc.), so I guess it would also be my responsibility to play the non-Keef parts.


Also what books would be good to look at to figure out the Wood parts.


Thanks stones fans!

[realityczech]

Foirget the Stones and get "Five Guys Walk into a Bar"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Guys_Walk_into_a_Bar...
http://www.amazon.com/Five-Guys-Walk-into-Bar/dp/B0001Z2R96

[re-animator]

I think they might freak out if I start playing non-stones stuff at an audition for a stones tribute band. but thanks anyway :p

[shane88]

yeah but wood doesn't play on all the "good early" stuff
+ i'm not sure Keef + Ron know where one ends and the other starts
anyhoo if u wanna hear the the stones @ their rambling ramshackle best get - exile on main st
my fave toons are gimme shelter and sister morphine (not on exile btw)
enjoy

[realityczech]

I think they might freak out if I start playing non-stones stuff at an audition for a stones tribute band. but thanks anyway :p

Ok
My fave Stones- album is Beggars Banquet -and the documentary film Gimme Shelter
Sums it up for me.

[dead mike]

You should get every album that Mick Taylor played on. especially sticky fingers and exile.

[Ulysses]

'Let It Bleed" - album for your listening pleasure

...for your audition, make sure you listen to Hot Rocks. Pretty good compiliation of greatest hits.

[Ken Ho]

Stiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiicky Fiingers is THE essential Stones album !
Won't help you with Ronnie Wood but it'll school you on Mick Taylor big time.
I got a tone of great transcriptions from shhetmusicdirect.com.
To get teh Stones feel, you really just have to listen to heaps of stuff.
On Tattoo You, there is a song called Slave. The main riff to that has their feel laid bare. Start Me Up too is a great song to cop their feel easily.

[Shiny McShine]

The two that I listened to the most (back in 75) was Get Your Ya Ya's Out and Exile on Main Street. The tones on Exile really got me then. I haven't heard it in a long time though but I think I need to eventually.

[re-animator]

interesting. looks like i've got some listening and playing to do.

seems like my best bet is to learn all the guitar parts and then defer to "tribute keef" to figure it out.

[angus99]

http://elmanzo.blogspot.com/2006/10/rolling-stones-brussels-affair-1973.html

"Lost" Brussels Affair is still the greatest to me. Mick Taylor and the rest at their peak. This sadly omits some of the crowd noise and one of the greatest intros in rock music: "and now ladies and gentlemen, the rolling stones!" but check out midnight rambler and tumbling dice in particular. Now copping some of this is a different story.

Good luck.

angus

[anibas]

http://elmanzo.blogspot.com/2006/10/rolling-stones-brussels-affair-1973.html

"Lost" Brussels Affair is still the greatest to me. Mick Taylor and the rest at their peak. This sadly omits some of the crowd noise and one of the greatest intros in rock music: "and now ladies and gentlemen, the rolling stones!" but check out midnight rambler and tumbling dice in particular. Now copping some of this is a different story.

Good luck.

angus
If you've got XM radio,they broadcast old King Biscuit Flower Hour programs,and this show gets played every so often.Some of Mick Taylor's finest playing with the stones,IMO.re-animator,I'd recommend everything from "Beggars.." through "Black and Blue",and "Some Girls"and "Tatoo You" for discs that feature Wood(Black and Blue has some tracks with him,also).Have fun!

[todd richman]

+1 for Brussels Affair. Taylor's tones, especially on You Can't Always Get... are some of the most gorgeous Les Paul tones of all time. That won't help with Ronnie. BTW, the Faces Box was suggested to get a feel for Ronnie's playing-terrific 4 CD set and it shows that Ronnie is a great player too. The nice thing about that set is that he is the sole guitar player so it is easier to isolate his style. I would also get the early Ronnie era live disc from Paris-Love You Live and maybe get the DVD sets from the Forty Licks and Bigger Bang tours. They are available at Best Buy, have great sound and picture and I believe you can select a camera for each member and watch just the footage of that player throughout the entire show. That will give you a ton of Ronnie to get you going or should I say to "Start You Up!!!

[Tricks]

Essential Stones - try the period from Beggar's Banquet through to Black and Blue (which I believe to be their last great album). But, don't forget to check out "Metamorphosis", this is an often overlooked album, but side 2 (tracks 10 - 16 on cd) is absolute gold - check out Keith's rhythm playing on "I'm going down", some of his best playing that never made it on to a major album of theirs.
Good luck, this music will carry you in to forever.

[angus99]

If you've got XM radio,they broadcast old King Biscuit Flower Hour programs,and this show gets played every so often.Some of Mick Taylor's finest playing with the stones,IMO.re-animator,I'd recommend everything from "Beggars.." through "Black and Blue",and "Some Girls"and "Tatoo You" for discs that feature Wood(Black and Blue has some tracks with him,also).Have fun!

Thanks, anibas. KBFH is where I originally heard it--maybe 20 years ago? Also saw them within a year of the Brussels gig and they were simply incredible.

[drive-south]

I like the "Singles Collection" which contains a lot of the early "London" recordings. I've got the box set as well as the songbook set. Essential stuff for any guitar-playing geezer like me.

My favorite Stones era was their country rock stuff after they hooked up with Graham Parson. Dead Flowers, Spider and the Fly, The Girl with faraway eyes, etc.

drive-south

[daddyo]

Best Stones albums:
Exile on Mainstreet (the desert island Stones record)
Sticky Fingers
Beggar's Banquet
Goat's Head Soup
Tattoo You
Some Girls

[loudboy]

If you're trying to nail Wood's stuff, why not get "Shine A Light" and some other live stuff on DVD?

You can watch it and listen and see what he's doing.

[AL30]

You should get every album that Mick Taylor played on. especially sticky fingers and exile.

Ding Ding !! Winner. :AOK

AL

[re-animator]

+1 for Brussels Affair. Taylor's tones, especially on You Can't Always Get... are some of the most gorgeous Les Paul tones of all time. That won't help with Ronnie. BTW, the Faces Box was suggested to get a feel for Ronnie's playing-terrific 4 CD set and it shows that Ronnie is a great player too. The nice thing about that set is that he is the sole guitar player so it is easier to isolate his style. I would also get the early Ronnie era live disc from Paris-Love You Live and maybe get the DVD sets from the Forty Licks and Bigger Bang tours. They are available at Best Buy, have great sound and picture and I believe you can select a camera for each member and watch just the footage of that player throughout the entire show. That will give you a ton of Ronnie to get you going or should I say to "Start You Up!!!

Thanks for the idea. I think I'll pick up some faces albums and recent stones DVDs to figure stuff out.

[Guitar55]

I would do these things if I were auditioning for a Stones cover band:

- Ask them for their songlist, this will somehwat narrow down what you need to learn.

- LISTEN to Beggar's Banquet, Exile on Main St., Sticky Fingers, Some Girls and Forty Licks (for a good career overview) and LEARN the chord changes

- RENT the recent concert DVD's "Shine a Light" and "Four Flicks". This will give you the best insight into Keith and Ron's interplay. PRACTICE along with the films

- TALK to the other guitarist about his approach to the parts

- Go to the audition and Rock their socks off!

[re-animator]

Well that's over.


Talked to them on the phone today. He says I can't even audition because I'm too young. I'm 19 (I have a permit to play 21+ venues), but apparently it won't work out because of the image of the rest of the band (who are 30/40somethings). He said it would look awkward on stage.


tough break.

[bjjp2]

Best Stones albums:
Exile on Mainstreet (the desert island Stones record)
Sticky Fingers
Beggar's Banquet
Goat's Head Soup
Tattoo You
Some Girls

You leave out "Let It Bleed"?:jo

[shane88]

Well that's over.


Talked to them on the phone today. He says I can't even audition because I'm too young. I'm 19 (I have a permit to play 21+ venues), but apparently it won't work out because of the image of the rest of the band (who are 30/40somethings). He said it would look awkward on stage.


tough break.
i think they're bein a bit silly with that attitude
anyway good luck with your search

[bug0711]

You should get every album that Mick Taylor played on. especially sticky fingers and exile.

These two are hands down my two favorite Stones releases. In fact they're in my top 20 of all-time.

[todd richman]

That's a crazy reason to disallow the audition. Music has no age limits. You seemed determined to do this and you should follow your goal-try putting an ad in a local music paper or maybe somehting like Harmony Central and do you own Stones Tribute band. Keep in mind that there is a market for these types of band's but unless you are willing to tour, the tribute thing can get tired quickly in your local area thus limiting the number of gigs per month, year, etc.

[re-animator]

yeah, i think its pretty ridiculous. Especially since I would have assumed there would be no problem at all with "having the right image." I'm a bit of a hipster and I've kind of been dressing the part of a rolling stone and rocking the stonesy haircut for a while. Kind of ironic i guess.

[54GT]

I am not sure there is much out there that can compare to the run from Beggars Banquet through Exile.

[zombywoof]

Well, even if ya can't audition get a hold of Ron Wood's song "I Can feel the Fire" on his first solo LP. Great rock & roll cut.

From the release of the Jumpin' Jack Flash" 45 rpm though "Exile" the Stones were the best band in Rock & Roll. I saw the Stones with Jones, Taylor and Wood. Everyone is always talking about Taylor who I do think remains one of the best guitar players on the planet but I will tell ya that Jones was no slouch and is a highly underrated guitar player.

[Frankee]

You should get every album that Mick Taylor played on. especially sticky fingers and exile.

+75 million. Easily the most talented muso to grace the Stones lineup.

[teleman65]

If you want to cop some of Ron Wood's feel listen to his album 'Gimme Some Neck'
I've played in a Stones tribute and you really need to play with the other guitar player because the parts Keef and Ronnie play are so connected. It's much easier to figure out who is doing what in the Mick Taylor era(my favorite)
The band I've played with for the last 15 years covers a lot of Stones but I'm the only guitarist. I've had to sort out what's important and arrange for the band accordingly.
Fun stuff.

[Rothbardian]

I'm still a Rolling Stones anti-fan.

[teleman65]

I'm still a Rolling Stones anti-fan.
Nothing wrong with that. Different tastes keeps things interesting. As long as we're respectful to each others individual tastes.

[pjrhd28]

IMHO, Exile is the greatest rock and roll release ever. The full blast approach of Rip This Joint, Rocks Off, All Down the Line, Happy, Tumbling Dice,Soul Survivor,the gospel influenced Shine a Light, the acoustic rock s**t- kicking of Sweet Virginia, Torn and Frayed, Loving Cup.

Such a broad range of great, great rock and roll tunes. I probably bought the LP 3 or 4 times and the CD at least twice.

Horns, guitars, slide, acoustic, keyboards, you name it.

[scadet]

Wow! :jo
That is a lame reason not to consider you. Have them watch some Motor City Josh and then try to tell you that age means anything at all. Or that part of the cool factor at least with this band IS the age difference. Alex on bass is like 17 and Johnny playing mostly rhythm is 20 in these videos. Basically half of Josh's or the drummer's age!

Better yet, forget them and start your own Stones tribute! All it should take is a mutual love for the music and a lot of practice.

John


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP22hsL3Hac
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXJBUIZEdZY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWKxcZFHF4Y



Well that's over.


Talked to them on the phone today. He says I can't even audition because I'm too young. I'm 19 (I have a permit to play 21+ venues), but apparently it won't work out because of the image of the rest of the band (who are 30/40somethings). He said it would look awkward on stage.


tough break.

[mbargav]

My favorite Stones record (sadly, it never seems to make anybody else's list): Between the Buttons.

Definitely give it a listen. Some killer stuff there.

[todd richman]

1968 through 1973 for me. The Beggar's Banquet record and then all records with Mick Taylor up through It's Only Rock and Roll. Try to find a copy of the live import CD Brussels Affair from 1973 also-some of Taylor's most gorgeous live playing. The bootleg DVD of "Ladies and Gentlemen...The Rolling Stones" from the 1972 U.S. tour is also a must have.

Don't forget about the recently released Exile era outtakes/extra tracks...some good stuff there like Plundered My Soul and Pour The Wine.

[Kiwi]

Shame about that tribute band - but keep soaking up all the Stones albums listed in the previous 3 pages of this thread.

One heads up - when you're playing Keef rhythm parts, be aware that many of them are in different tunings (example: Brown Sugar, in open G). Taking the trouble to change tuning and learn new chord fingerings is really worth it (and it ain't that hard) for the wonderful sound you'll get.

Enjoy!

=K

[todd richman]

And don't forget his use of capos also with those tunings.

[bjjp2]

Wow! :jo
That is a lame reason not to consider you. Have them watch some Motor City Josh and then try to tell you that age means anything at all. Or that part of the cool factor at least with this band IS the age difference. Alex on bass is like 17 and Johnny playing mostly rhythm is 20 in these videos. Basically half of Josh's or the drummer's age!

Better yet, forget them and start your own Stones tribute! All it should take is a mutual love for the music and a lot of practice.

John


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP22hsL3Hac
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXJBUIZEdZY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWKxcZFHF4Y

Did you know you were responding to a 2 year old post?

[scadet]

Nope! :jo

Time is an illusion! :dude

Did you know you were responding to a 2 year old post?

[Sub City]

Everything from Beggars Banquet to Exile is the height of Stones music; never crazy about the Ron Wood era, but the Brian Jones era was excellent.

[The Golden Boy]

Two comments on the 2 year old thread.

1. Sticky Fingers.

We do everything on Sticky Fingers except Sister Morphine and Moonlight Mile. (and I'd love to do Moonlight Mile)

2. I don't think it's out of line for a band of 3-4 guys in the same age group to not want to have someone 20 years older or younger in the band. Especially a "contract" player- I mean, someone that's not friends/family of the band members.

[RocksOff]

Learn all the stuff on Some Girls. That'll put you square in the Ron Wood / Stones mindset. You play pedal steel? Girl With Faraway Eyes... Anyway. Grab up the live dvds. Let's Spend The Night Together will show you a bunch of Ronnie's parts AND show you how to look like you've been up for several days. The Bridges To Babylon tour DVD and Four Flicks will show you a bunch of parts and how to cop the Ron Wood swagger. It helps if you smoke a lot and have a rooster hairdo.

[Joe Robinson]

If it is Ron Wood that you are after, he's heard best on Love You Live. He was relatively new in the band and takes a lot of solos. These days, it's very difficult to pick Woody out of the mix. Some Girls is also an epic album for Woody, lots of good stuff on When the Whip Comes Down and Respectable. Slave, off of Tattoo You, as well as Black Limousine, are both good showcases for Woody.

Another cool one is Miss You, lots of good lead is buried in the mix.