Ryan Adams & the Cardinals: Cardinology (Releases Today) [Archive]

shawntp

10-28-2008, 07:30 AM

Just a friendly TGP FYI - if you are into Indie rock and great songwriting this album is hitting the shelves today ...Ryan Adams never releases a dud but this one got pretty good reviews.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Nr7dtcw9L._SL500_AA240_.jpg

Tinman

10-28-2008, 08:02 AM

Whatever happened to that box set that was supposed to come out in '08?

Gas-man

10-28-2008, 08:04 AM

What is this, like his 8th release this year?

Hah, I keed.

Cornbread

10-28-2008, 08:39 AM

I loved what one reviewer said, 'He feels that once a song is written it must be recorded and once recorded it must be released'. :phones

I saw him live a lot in his early days, but eventually got kinda bored with him.

Still, I'll probably check this one out....eventually.

ilari

10-28-2008, 08:40 AM

It´s a really good record, and it´s his first this year. Lots of short songs(2min), so it´s good for those of us with short attention spans.

therhodeo

10-28-2008, 08:41 AM

I listened to it all day yesterday (released early on Rhapsody) and its great. I still like the Whiskeytown stuff better than anything he's done solo but its still good.

soulohio

10-28-2008, 09:13 AM

man, i love Whiskeytown...to be fair I have heard little of Ryan in his current efforts, but what I heard hasn't grabbed me.

ezyrydr

10-28-2008, 10:40 AM

ezyrydr

10-28-2008, 10:56 AM

I didn't see anyone posting their ages. How did you come to make this assessment?

Personally, I love the Whiskeytown stuff but I'm also a fan of Cold Roses and both Love Is Hell records.

I reached those conclusions based on personal experience with people I know. I could be wrong, and would be interested in seeing if my theory holds true with the folks on here.

shawntp

10-28-2008, 11:03 AM

I like whiskeytown stuff, I like the new stuff just the same personally. Since linking up with Lost Highway Records his stuff is just so well recorded/produced.

What I liked about RA for a while was how every album was a slightly different representation of his style capabilities. You could listen to an acoustic album, then a rock album, then a country album, then a Jam Band album. Each record had a different feel and puts you in a different place listening - I am eager to pick up this new record.

P.S. - I turn 30 tomorrow so I backup the above theory by placing myself favoring neither Whiskeytown / Solo Ryan / or with Cardinals - I dig it all.

jayn

10-28-2008, 11:25 AM

it's funny how everyone in their 30s says the Whiskeytown stuff is the best and younger folks love the newer stuff.
My favorite Ryan Adams is Cold Roses, Jacksonville City Nights and Heartbreaker.

Easy Tiger and this new one Cardinology are good albums for sure but just don't hit me like those other albums.

Careful there, sonny :nono. I'm a withered, bitter 40-something who likes the solo stuff better than Whiskeytown...'specially Cold Roses and Heartbreaker.

:dude

Tinman

10-28-2008, 11:52 AM

I'm a withered, bitter, and bald 45 year old, and I slightly favor his solo stuff!

Gas-man

10-28-2008, 12:26 PM

It's become a hipster cliche to say the Whiskeytown stuff is better.

Even if it is true, it's de rigeur to say in indie/alt country circles.

I like his solo stuff a lot, including Stars Go Blue, which McGraw covered EXACTLY like the original, key, production, everything.

Must be a nice little check to get every month.

mcflymcflymcfly

10-28-2008, 03:39 PM

This new album is great. Much better then his two previous albums with the Cardinals.
He just cant seem to top Love is Hell though, pure genius that one is.

agentcooper2001

10-28-2008, 07:56 PM

i like strangers almanac & pnuemonia more than any of his solo records, but i love almost everything he's done. i've listened to whiskeytown since strangers came out in 97. i have most of his unreleased stuff as well and tons of live shows. i'm liking cardinology, but love is hell will probably always be my favorite ryan solo album.

datguytim

10-28-2008, 09:05 PM

They're opening for Oasis on tour right now. Thinkin' bout checkin' the show out@staples center (which I can't stand, but I'm kinda diggin' Oasis's new stuff - as well as old - and Ryan & Cards can lay it down nice too - SO . . . . . maybe.).

mcflymcflymcfly

10-29-2008, 12:35 AM

I know, right? I can't understand why, when "favorite Ryan Adams records" comes up, it's rare that someone mentions Love Is Hell.

Shadowlands still blows me away everytime I listen to it. Just unreal.

gratay

10-29-2008, 02:01 AM

heartbreaker is great
and although it never got good reviews I really like '29'
particularly these 2 songs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zplEGNZyf6Q&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71ZrLuZM2fw&feature=related

PedalFreak

10-29-2008, 07:06 PM

I still like the Whiskeytown stuff better than anything he's done solo but its still good.

In Madison this year, some guy kept yelling "Play some Whiskeytown songs!" Ryans reply was, "Sir, you're 11 years too late. And trust me, that stuff really wasnt that good anyway."

I've heard interviews where he talks about not liking the Whiskeytown stuff.

Not saying that I don't like it. Love the song Inn Town. I've liked all the stuff he's done. New album is great. Love the groove of the new song Magick.

greggorypeccary

10-29-2008, 07:19 PM

It's become a hipster cliche to say the Whiskeytown stuff is better.

It seems to always be hipster cliche to say any artist's early stuff is better. I'm a huge Wilco fan and hear a lot of "UT was better" or "The first couple Wilco records were better." Personally I like to follow artists as they grow. Sometimes I go along for the ride, other times I get off the bus, but if they don't change and grow, what's the point?

That said, I'm planning on grabbing this one this weekend.

citiesLA

10-30-2008, 10:01 AM

I know, right? I can't understand why, when "favorite Ryan Adams records" comes up, it's rare that someone mentions Love Is Hell.

that's my favorite album as well. It is solid from the beginning to the end.

reddgeetarzan

10-30-2008, 10:44 AM

It seems to always be hipster cliche to say any artist's early stuff is better. I'm a huge Wilco fan and hear a lot of "UT was better" or "The first couple Wilco records were better." Personally I like to follow artists as they grow. Sometimes I go along for the ride, other times I get off the bus, but if they don't change and grow, what's the point?

That said, I'm planning on grabbing this one this weekend.

Very well put.

squeally dan

10-30-2008, 10:44 AM

I liked GOld but Cold Roses bored me to tears. I see that so many people like it. I keep going back to it but it just doesn't do much for me.

reddgeetarzan

10-30-2008, 10:46 AM

What is this, like his 8th release this year?

Hah, I keed.

Yeah, the guy really needs to get a hobby! LOL.......

Maybe Alice Cooper can take him golfing or something???

reddgeetarzan

10-30-2008, 10:51 AM

This is a great performance here. I like the electric stuff more than the acoustic, for the most part.....depends on the mood I guess
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6RDTF3TFWE&feature=related

GA19RVT

10-30-2008, 10:53 AM

The new Gary Louris & Mark Olson stuff blows Mr. Adams out of the water.

brdstl

10-30-2008, 03:31 PM

Anybody see 'em on Letterman? I thought they sounded really good. The giant Princeton was quite funny.

madvek

10-30-2008, 03:35 PM

I still like his really old stuff myself:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fuf2YtXs7ak

Oops, My bad. nevermind.
:D

slopeshoulder

10-30-2008, 05:48 PM

I'm old a f--k and I love all his stuff, especially cold roses.

LPSlinger

10-30-2008, 05:51 PM

I know, right? I can't understand why, when "favorite Ryan Adams records" comes up, it's rare that someone mentions Love Is Hell.

I think the explanation for that is that he also made Cold Roses, Jacksonville City Nights, Heartbreaker, and Gold. :)

BadAssBill

10-31-2008, 08:14 AM

I still like his work with Whiskeytown best.

Tinman

10-31-2008, 02:02 PM

The new Gary Louris & Mark Olson stuff blows Mr. Adams out of the water.

Blows it out of the water? Is that really true? That's just wild. I had no idea.

mtlin

10-31-2008, 02:58 PM

The new Gary Louris & Mark Olson stuff blows Mr. Adams out of the water.

I'm huge fan of theirs (not to high jack). Is this album out?

Gas-man

10-31-2008, 03:21 PM

I still like his work with Whiskeytown best.

Ever notice how they forgot to write lyrics for the chorus of Whither I'm A Flower?

They just go nah nah nah nah nah nah.

:NUTS

I always thought that was...strange.

therhodeo

10-31-2008, 03:24 PM

It's become a hipster cliche to say the Whiskeytown stuff is better.

Even if it is true,

Which it is and we all know it.