View Full Version : Anybody get a good Gilmour tone without selling your house?
Prodigy
10-30-2008, 09:52 PM
Not sure if this is the right place to post this...Ah well. I don't want to cop Gilmour's tone at all, but I'm just curious as to who has pretty much nailed his tone without having to buy all the rack units and crazy expensive pedals etc...
It would be great to see clips if possible. i love it when guys can cop a famous player's tone with their own gear and hands, just using a bare bones approach.
Bill Brasky
10-30-2008, 11:47 PM
Like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUG9JyPgnMs
jazzandmetal?
10-30-2008, 11:57 PM
Sadly, I sold the house AND didn't get the tone:(
Nice tones there Bill.
The skreddy lineup is your best option...i have a video done for the pinkmour(top fuel) on their website....
MBreinin
10-31-2008, 07:37 AM
Like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUG9JyPgnMs
Nice! That was pretty damn close there.
burningyen
10-31-2008, 08:42 AM
Lots of people report nailing his tone with a BYOC Large Beaver (Ram Head version).
Prodigy
10-31-2008, 10:28 AM
The skreddy lineup is your best option...i have a video done for the pinkmour(top fuel) on their website....
What's the difference between Skreddy's Pink Floyd type pedals?
Prodigy
10-31-2008, 10:30 AM
Lots of people report nailing his tone with a BYOC Large Beaver (Ram Head version).
I've been told the BE Musket Fuzz can get the Large Beaver tones easily. Would love to A/B them.
straticus
10-31-2008, 10:56 AM
IMHO, coping Gilmore's sound is more a matter of style than tone. For example, Gilmour's tone is different now than it was back in the Pink Floyd days. But there's still no mistaking who's playing when you hear him today.
Here's a song (Innocence and Fear) my band recorded that has a definite "Floyd" style to it. The lead ( at around 2:30) is pretty Gilmour-ish. I wasn't trying to cop his tone, just his style. I used a Grosh strat, Fargen Bordeaux, and D13 Dyna-ranger.
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=801655
well I'm getting a Large Beaver just cause it seems like a thing to buy LOL
I haven't gone for it lately, but used to cover a lot of Floyd like Comf Numb, Time, Young Lust.
I think you can approach it with:
compressor (I used a boss cs-2 -wish I still had this one), rat, chorus, and delay. also sprinkle in some amp reverb
Bearded
10-31-2008, 12:38 PM
It's all in the fingers.
I've played my strat into my Skreddy Top Fuel into a comp into my Hiwatt, and it still sounds like ME and not Gilmour. ;)
orangewizard
10-31-2008, 12:44 PM
Like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUG9JyPgnMs NICSHE! :cool:
Care to share amps,effects,etc?
hobbes1
10-31-2008, 09:02 PM
www.gilmourish.com (http://www.gilmourish.com)
all you need to know.....
TwinandTwang
11-01-2008, 10:41 AM
Used to do it with 57 RI Strat into Boss Delay into Boogie Mark III.
I think alot of it was the Strat
Ted Witcher
11-01-2008, 12:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV-XdCFR3NY&feature=related
As said here before, it's a lot in the style of playing. I use a Carl Martin Quattro: comp, little overdrive and delay on my marshall JMP 50 watts and can sound pretty much like Gilmour.
The Guy
11-03-2008, 05:56 AM
IMHO, coping Gilmore's sound is more a matter of style than tone. For example, Gilmour's tone is different now than it was back in the Pink Floyd days. But there's still no mistaking who's playing when you hear him today.
Here's a song (Innocence and Fear) my band recorded that has a definite "Floyd" style to it. The lead ( at around 2:30) is pretty Gilmour-ish. I wasn't trying to cop his tone, just his style. I used a Grosh strat, Fargen Bordeaux, and D13 Dyna-ranger.
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=801655
wow. . . you guys are good. keep it up
seiko
11-03-2008, 09:28 AM
Despite the Cornish stuff there's an awful lot of mass-produced pedals in his rig. I would think Strat -- MXR or Ibanez compressor -- Big Muff -- MXR Phase 90 -- MXR Carbon Copy -- Loud Clean tube amp would be a good start, then you could things like a RAT and a Boss GE7 EQ over time.
straticus
11-03-2008, 10:11 AM
wow. . . you guys are good. keep it up
Thank you very much!
We've been working on a CD for about a year now. I just got an email from the mastering house this morning telling us it will be finished today. It's our first CD so we're pretty excited!
peace.............BC
Stratman76
11-03-2008, 10:17 AM
Didn't Gilmour, at least at some point, use a Strat with some pretty hot pickups (EMGs)? Were they active pups?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Brasky http://img.thegearpage.net/board/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?p=4951285#post4951285)
Like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUG9JyPgnMs
NICSHE! :cool:
Care to share amps,effects,etc?
He was using a Roland VG-88.
Even better on the new Roland VG-99...the Gilmour sounds are the best!
mkl13
08-10-2009, 08:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV-XdCFR3NY&feature=related
Great playing!
The Last Rebel
08-10-2009, 08:25 PM
Didn't Gilmour, at least at some point, use a Strat with some pretty hot pickups (EMGs)? Were they active pups?
He was, and still is I think, using SA's. I don't think those are that high gain, he's also got some added tone-shaping controls loaded in there.
stephen sawall
08-10-2009, 08:45 PM
http://www.emginc.com/artists/featuredArtist/52
I have this on my Strat ..... I feel the EMG-SPC presence control has a lot to do with his tone for some stuff.
sixty2strat
08-10-2009, 11:17 PM
USed to do a lot of Gilmour stuff in one band,70's strat ,50 watt JMP Space echo Ts 808 and a CS9 got me real close, listening to his style, playing behind the beat,big accurate bends,paying attention to the changes and playing through them finished off his sound for me
Remember he used a Les Paul on the brick in the wall solo and have seen old pictures of him with a Black Beauty and gretschs guitars, so I be a lot of the Floyd is not all strat. YET he is a strat god. Seems he sounds like Gilmour what ever he uses. So style phrasing bends and vibrato will get you closer that the same pups or a Gilmour Hiwatt.
atquinn
08-11-2009, 05:30 AM
Why focus on 25% of the tone (gear) when you could be focusing on 75% (playing style)?
-Austin
geetarboy
08-11-2009, 08:17 AM
Yeah, the Musket can get a wide variety of muffy tones, all of which kick-ass. I love my Musket.
I've been told the BE Musket Fuzz can get the Large Beaver tones easily. Would love to A/B them.
Kenny D
08-11-2009, 11:33 AM
Here you go (http://www.gilmourish.com/)...
Lance
08-11-2009, 11:45 AM
The dude from the Aussie PF show uses a SF Twin Reverb. I've gotten pretty close with one, as well as a BF Princeton Reverb, and a Boogie Mark III.
jay42
08-11-2009, 01:42 PM
I just want to know what that guitar is in the first youtube clip...HB bridge, Strat middle, Firebird mini at the neck, what I think of as ES-345 inlays, all on something that looks like a Les Paul.
ultrevex
08-11-2009, 02:14 PM
I just want to know what that guitar is in the first youtube clip...HB bridge, Strat middle, Firebird mini at the neck, what I think of as ES-345 inlays, all on something that looks like a Les Paul.
Gibson Nighthawk. They made them in the 90's. I had one that was stolen while on tour. Cool guitars.
mkl13
08-11-2009, 02:19 PM
Why focus on 25% of the tone (gear) when you could be focusing on 75% (playing style)?
-Austin
Because this is theGEARpage not theplayingstylepage! :banana
Baminated
08-11-2009, 02:28 PM
It's funny how there is more talk about pedals rather than the power/pre/cab/pickup configs.
Definitely starts w/the Clean Tube Power of the Hiwatt & The Modded Alembic preamp w/those WEM cabs
Then you should start talking pedals.
franksguitar
08-11-2009, 04:11 PM
I think most guys try to avoid a large beaver!! LOL (bad joke) Seriously a strat on the neck PU with a good delay and a bit of OD thru a class A amp with a tad of reverb can get real close
Kit Rae
08-12-2009, 04:20 PM
It depends on what era Gilmour tone you want to cop, but you can get a decent late 80's to present Gilmour tone with an inexpensive green Sovtek Big Muff, a Boss CE-5 chorus, and a digital delay.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fdO2pfvizA&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ekitrae%2Enet%2Fmusic%2Fmus ic%5Fvideos%2Ehtml&feature=player_embedded
You can get decent 70's era Gilmour fuzz tones with a good vintage fuzz replica like an Analogman Sunface or Skreddy Lunar Module and an analog delay like the MXR Carbon Copy. Those pedals are not cheap, but you don't have to mortgage the house.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqV_J8Jj0OQ&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ekitrae%2Enet%2Fmusic%2Fmus ic%5Fvideos%2Ehtml&feature=player_embedded
A vintage fuzz clone is the key to the Wish You Were Here or earlier tones. A vintage Muff clone is the key pedal for just about everything else. The BYOC Large Beaver is the most inexpensive vintage Big Muff clone you can buy, and it holds its own next to a real Ram's Head or Triangle Big Muff easily. Gilmour almost always used delay, and most of his tones had modulation. The Boss CE-5 is probably the closest pedal to cop most of his modulated tones on a budget. The Deluxe Electric Mistress works too, but it is a bit too dominant. Other than that, use a clean tube amp with lots of head room and vintage style strat pickups.
As others have already pointed out, www.gilmourish.com (http://www.gilmourish.com) has the best info on creating the Gilmour tone on a budget. Read the buyers gear guide here:
http://www.gilmourish.com/?page_id=273
Lance
08-12-2009, 04:29 PM
Kit Rae, have you ever tried a Big Green Russian pedal? Supposedly the same guy who built them in the Sovtek plant, started his own. They are pretty much affordable, and I've been eyeing one. Or, anyone for that matter?
Kit Rae
08-12-2009, 11:28 PM
Do you mean the Absolutely Analog Green Russian? I like mine, but it does not have quite the mojo as a good green Sovtek Muff from the '90s. It is also more expensive than a typical green Sovtek, but of course it is much smaller and you can connect a wall wart. The Sovtek is big and runs on 9v only, but I like them that way.
Treble booster
08-13-2009, 01:40 AM
Didn't Gilmour, at least at some point, use a Strat with some pretty hot pickups (EMGs)? Were they active pups?
I love my set of D.Gilmore EMGs for my strat. I'm not even a big fan, just love trying out new gear and found these to be keepers.
Good is a relative thing. Good for me and to me, yes. Various Skreddy pedals with delay and reveb combinations. I have done ok with a Little Big Muff at times as well. Usually with some form of TS or eq.
ImmortalSix
08-13-2009, 11:01 AM
Yeah, I just play a neck P90 direct to the board
:rimshot
Lance
08-13-2009, 11:38 AM
Do you mean the Absolutely Analog Green Russian? I like mine, but it does not have quite the mojo as a good green Sovtek Muff from the '90s. It is also more expensive than a typical green Sovtek, but of course it is much smaller and you can connect a wall wart. The Sovtek is big and runs on 9v only, but I like them that way.
Yep, thanks for the info. I really want to hunt down a good Skreddy, but I refuse to pay that much for another pedal. The Ethos made me cross a line that I had internally drawn with regard to pedal expenses. One that I doubt I'll cross again. Why doesn't Skreddy make some more Floyd pedals like the Pink Flesh? There's obviously a market for them. I'm just whining because I don't have one.
He works out a design and parts that all form a ziegiest then some key element can't be found so that ends it. Sometimes it is not something he likes making anymore. He does it more like art than mass production.
Kit Rae
08-13-2009, 04:15 PM
Yep, thanks for the info. I really want to hunt down a good Skreddy, but I refuse to pay that much for another pedal. The Ethos made me cross a line that I had internally drawn with regard to pedal expenses. One that I doubt I'll cross again. Why doesn't Skreddy make some more Floyd pedals like the Pink Flesh? There's obviously a market for them. I'm just whining because I don't have one.
He would still be making them if he could still get the old circuit components, but those are hard to find these days. He is making a new Floyd Muff using modern components. It's called the Pig Mine, but they won't be shipping for several months.
A Skreddy pedal is expensive though, and this thread is about getting the sound without spending huge bucks. A pre-built BYOC Large Beaver or a green Sovtek Muff on ebay is still the most inexpensive way to go.
Ray Gianelli
08-13-2009, 08:23 PM
IMHO, coping Gilmore's sound is more a matter of style than tone. For example, Gilmour's tone is different now than it was back in the Pink Floyd days. But there's still no mistaking who's playing when you hear him today.
Here's a song (Innocence and Fear) my band recorded that has a definite "Floyd" style to it. The lead ( at around 2:30) is pretty Gilmour-ish. I wasn't trying to cop his tone, just his style. I used a Grosh strat, Fargen Bordeaux, and D13 Dyna-ranger.
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=801655
Wow, I REALLY like your stuff!!! When it comes right down to it you've got to have good songs, and you guys do.
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